when you see yourself, describe how you feel?

[Becky Blue]

I am interested in hearing how others feel when they see pictures of themselves. Over the past 11 years I have managed to collect about 2,000 pictures of myself. Some of my many pictures are taken at the 9 makeovers I have had, others were taken on outings and quite a few selfies.

I regularly spend time looking at the pictures and I always come away with very mixed emotions. Seeing the real me is always a very emotional experience, I feel a great sense of joy as many pictures bring back amazing memories, but also a profound sense of sadness that being able to look like that is not something I can do everyday. But mostly I feel extremely happy that the moment the camera has captured was a Becky moment and that is actually me.

[DIANEF]

I understand exactly what you are saying. Seeing pictures of Diane reminds me of just how much I need my 'me' time and how much I miss it when it can't happen. Right now I'm in the middle of a 3 week gap, and it's really hard going to get through. Having some pictures to look at at least keeps me in touch with my femme self but it's a poor substitute for the real thing.

[Laurana]

Sometimes I smile.

Other times I look at my belly and frown. I need to lose about 10 pounds to be content and 20 to be happy.

[TrishaLake]

i see myself smiling and happy...that wasn't always the case...

[Rachael Leigh]

When I see a picture of myself it just looks right to me yes at times I'm critical of the maleness that shows thru but that's ok because then I see the beauty in the makeup and all the other ways I do my best to look nice it's a feeling of yes I'm ok
with that person I see.

[Shely]

I also have quite a collection of selfies. It seems to be my hobby as of late. I go to the thrift store on 10/$10 day and rush home to try them all on. then i dress up and set up the tripod and take pictures. I have them sorted by label name in folders and crop them and touch them up, and sometimes just scroll through them wondering. I sometimes feel like it has taken me over but i love the look, and feel of dressing up. i probably have about that many too. I just started a Flickr account and posted a few pictures there so i could see them where ever i went, and maybe share them too. I guess I just love the look of me as a woman in dresses, skirts, leggins, etc. Enjoy it, I do.

[S. Lisa Smith]

My pictures make me happy. I always smile when I look at them...I enjoy this side of me!!

[briana_betancourt]

Becky,

You are SO accurate on the "emotional" part. I'm the exact same way. I don't get to dress that often anymore, and whenever life gets stressful and the day-to-day stressors of boy life have me down... seeing Briana smiling and remembering how happy I was the last time I was en femme take nearly all the stress away.

Like all of us, I miss my Briana time so much because I never know when it's going to happen again. Looking back on pictures keeps the happiest times alive.

[GretchenM]

I am like Leigh. Seeing myself en femme is a feel good moment, but the maleness is also evident. Then I have to remind myself, "that person (me) is not female and in fact is male. But that person has a dual gender identity or such a broad gender identity that it looks and feels like it is dual. Sex is for reproduction (and recreation), but gender identity is 95% of the foundation of life. That person is different, but there is nothing wrong with that person. They are just configured differently and sometimes to validate it that person sometimes needs to look like a female."

I think pictures are better than looks in the mirror. Photographs tend to objectify the view while mirrors present an image that is more subjective. Sometimes we look in the mirror and say, "Holy cow!" We then see a photograph of the same person dressed the same way and we think, "Well, that is pretty good but I am not so sure that person is actually female."

[Evie82]

I always have a few pics of the real me on my phone, iPod or whatever. I've made the first slow steps towards transitioning, but I'm still in the closet for various reasons, and I find the pictures really do help lift my mood and calm me when being forced into maintaining the guy front or just life in general wears me down.

[CarlaWestin]

I have thousands and thousands of pictures and at least a hundred videos. I keep a folder of Carla's favorites. Every now and then you get that one picture that just works.

[Tama]

I am a long time (30+ years professional) photographer so, sometimes we "pros" have no concept how to shoot ourselves..I am no exception. Most of my "selfie" pics are waaay over the top femme stuff so, they are all for my amusement, or learning curve on what NOT to dress as.

[Judy-Somthing]

It definitely brings good feelings looking at the photos.

I'm so glad I kept the Polaroid photos from 36 years ago.
About 20 years ago I got rid of about 30 Polaroid photos of me in lingerie.
In case someone found them I didn't want to be seen that way.

I still have the 1st photo of me dressed as a Ballerina when I was about 8 that my sister took.
That was the day I got hooked!

[Barbara Black]

I look at my pictures and sigh, first because I don't pass by any exaggeration of imagination, and would love to, and secondly because it still makes me wish I could freely wear my girl clothes without hesitation any time of the day or week. Thirdly, because I didn't start dressing until later in life, and have already missed most of the years I could have dressed. So you younger girls, dress whenever you can, to your level of contentment.

[Nicki_D]

I love looking at the pictures of me that I keep. They're me at my most feminine and passable. Out of context from the real world. It helps me maintain the fantasy side of dressing that I could be a real girl.
I know all too well that these few pictures are the result of a LOT of selection from many terrible and unflattering pics, sprinkled with a touch of photo editing, but having a small number of 'perfect' girly pictures gives me a warm glow and a happy thrill.

[JeanTG]

When I look at the very few pictures I have of myself, I realize just what a steep learning curve I have ahead of myself to even come close to passing as a woman. Sometimes it discourages me, sometimes it encourages me to try better next time (mostly... improving makeup skills).

[Tama]

I completely agree with you Jean. In every way.
Some of the photos have me grinning as if I did something wrong, and others make me wanna go tearing for the DELETE button! Either way, I've learned something about it.

[Jaylyn]

Dang you girls must look better than I do when looking at some of my pictures. Sometimes I look at them and remember feeling contented but mostly I look at them and think I might need to go throw-up. I have about a thousand and very few do I look like a real gal in. That why my avatar is of my legs n heels. My shoulders are very wide I guess from my old football n weight lifting days. Not very feminine unless I was on the girls Russian Olympic shot put squad. My profile pic just shows my best quality a touch of my face but I had to photoshop a different lighting to get that done. I still like putting on makeup as I think it really does change my appearance but not like some of you natural beautiful gals on here. Getting older is not helping my situation either.....

[Erica1148]

You're not alone in your feelings Jaylyn! I work at a job where have to stay in good shape, and my 5'9" 195 lb muscular frame and square jaw is as far from feminine as it comes! I also like to go all out on makeup, because I enjoy the entire process, and then while I'm not looking in the mirror, I can look however I want to in my own mind!

[BLUE ORCHID]

Hi Becky:hugs:, After many years of dressing I have gotten pretty good about mastering the art of make-up and the style
of my fashion and dressing and I am very satisfied with the results...:daydreaming:...

[Maria Blackwood]

No pictures. No mirrors. All evidence easily reducible to absolute deniability.

When I get back in shape I might post pictures, though.

[Tracii G]

I have have tons of pics and I consider them a moment in time.
Maria thats a cop out to say when I get back in shape I might post pics.
You need to stop holding yourself back and blaming your physique. If you stand by the statement absolute deniability then you will never post a pic.
Heck I have been really fat and everything in between and that never caused me not to CD or take pics.

[phili]

Maybe Marla is on to something! It makes sense to just experience it from the inside- no demands for others to participate, no appearance standards to compare ourselves to, no special grooming, and no struggle- just wear the clothes and enjoy!

To Becky's point, I like the pics so I can see what does look good on me, and that helps me feel confident putting together my outing outfits. I don't change my face or body appearance, but I still have sadness to say good bye to the clothes and carry the picture with me. I'm now seriously thinking I a going to ditch the mirror except when I actually am going out, to simplify my relationship with crossdressing a lot! Thanks Marla and Becky!

[Diane Taylor]

I'm not very into pictures. Maybe it's because they always seem to come out bad. I have only a few pictures of "Diane" and never show them much. I much prefer seeing myself in a mirror or just not seeing myself at all but just enjoying the time I have dressed.

[Wen4cd]

Out of thousands of photos, my favorites are always the one or two odd pictures where the camera somehow takes a picture that is clearly NOT me. Some odd angle or other that is a total lie.

This phenomenon only happens in about .1% of photos, but they become the 'keepers.' If I look at myself and don't see any of the pet flaws I usually find glaring at me, I am happy to accept the lie.

[Tracii G]

Wen4cd thats how it is for me too LOL
Take 1000 pics and keep 1.

[docrobbysherry]

I'm like that too, Wen. Only ALL my photos r of someone else. I don't wish to see anything of me or male in Sherry's photos. I'm thrilled because Sherry is NOT me. It does get confusing doesn't it?:heehee:

What do I feel when I see myself, a homely old man, transformed into an attractive young woman? It blows my mind! The hair on back of my neck stands up, I'm as excited as a kid on Xmas morning, the experience feels totally unreal. But, hey! It is isn't it?:devil:

[Teresa]

Becky,
The pictures mean so much to me, it's a great way of coming out to people. OK I would prefer for them to see the real me, the comments give me so much encouragement .

Only the other day I was in a charity shop, and the manageress knows I shop for myself, she has seen my pictures, we happened to be looking at the Xmas picture I use for my avatar because I bought the 4" heels from them . A female assistant came out from the back of the shop and said what a pretty lady in a lovely dress, she then asked who is she, the manageress nudge her and pointed at me , she said , " no way, you look better than me even when I'm done up !" She walked away shaking her head saying , " Men aren't supposed to be beautiful !"

Tama,
We have something in common, I was a Pro photographer for thirty years, after doing so many weddings at least I know how to pose myself.

[Jane G]

When dressed Contentment.:daydreaming: When not dressed acceptance. :)

[DIANEF]

Had an interesting experience at work today. Just me and a female colleague in (she's about mid 40s). In a quiet period we were discussing our relative offspring. She got her phone out and showed me her kids, pets, husband, usual sort of things. So, I got my phone, showed her my two boys, sister in laws wedding pictures, cats ect. She commented I'd shown her everyone, except my wife. I had a 'should I or shouldn't I' moment, and showed her a picture of Diane (actually the same one as my current avatar). Oh, is that her? was the reply, she's quite pretty isn't she? Wow, I secretly thought, then she asked if she was a natural blonde! Yes, I lied. I showed her another picture, similar but full length (I had above knee skirt, dark tights and heels on). She's got good legs hasn't she?, my colleague said. Ask me how good I felt inside..(my pictures are secure BTW, so no chance of any accidental discovery)

[Teresa]

Diane,
I thought I was the only one who took chances like that ! It's going to be interesting if your work colleague meets you together with your wife at some point in the future !

[Giselle(Oshawa)]

sadly i see a man in a dress but on the positive side i love to at least feel feminine

[DIANEF]

Hi Teresa, it was spur of the moment thing, the picture was very slightly fuzzy and was just enough to conceal my most notable features. It was such a good feeling though knowing that someone believed Diane was another person!.

[Hazel_k]

Wow, what any amazing story! That must have been a confidence builder!


Had an interesting experience at work today. Just me and a female colleague in (she's about mid 40s). In a quiet period we were discussing our relative offspring. She got her phone out and showed me her kids, pets, husband, usual sort of things. So, I got my phone, showed her my two boys, sister in laws wedding pictures, cats ect. She commented I'd shown her everyone, except my wife. I had a 'should I or shouldn't I' moment, and showed her a picture of Diane (actually the same one as my current avatar). Oh, is that her? was the reply, she's quite pretty isn't she? Wow, I secretly thought, then she asked if she was a natural blonde! Yes, I lied. I showed her another picture, similar but full length (I had above knee skirt, dark tights and heels on). She's got good legs hasn't she?, my colleague said. Ask me how good I felt inside..(my pictures are secure BTW, so no chance of any accidental discovery)

[IleneD]

Absolute Joy

[BrendaPDX]

Hi Carla, What good posts you have. Yes I have picks dating back to my mid 20s, 1980s. It is fun to look back and see the changes in not only what I wear, but how I wear them. Then like now all I wanted was to blend, and maybe get a second glance. Like most here I have many pictures, but only a few are keepers; well I keep them all. The good ones are when I had spent more time with my makeup and ignoring the camera. Thanks for your memory and thought provoking questions. Brenda

[DIANEF]

Hi Hazel, it certainly was! I might try the same thing on one of my male colleagues, maybe......

[Alice B]

I startd dresing very late in life (64) and have taaken lots of shots using a tripod, etc. and taken at events such as DLV. I just went through my saved files and was amazed at the changes in mysef after ten years. Somewhat depressing, but at the same time they bring strong feelings and great joy and I have learned a lot as to what looks good in my selectiion of clothing, make up, wigs, etc. and what does not look good on me. And now my dressing time is less than before, so I must be more select. I had to delete many shots in fear of when I pass they would be found.

[RainbowDash]

I feel very happy and excited, because I'm seeing the woman who I want so badly to be. Keep in mind, this does not mean I have any desire to become a transgender, but I feel like I'm looking at a very attractive looking young woman when I dress up. I basically felt the same way when I started dressing up as Princess Peach, like a princess, and I still do feel very much like one when I wear her outfit.

[Stephanie Julianna]

Complete, content. I have pictures that cover almost 40 years and can remember how I felt when each one was taken. I can not say that about those in male mode. I see a contentment in my face that is not present in my male mode pics.

[Angie G]

When I take pics they are always selfies that get deleted after I look at tham. When I look the the pics I don't look at my face so I look good to myself.:hugs:
Angie

[JaytoJillian]

Like $10,000,000.00

[TrishaLake]

When I started with ill fitted clothes etc...i saw a man trying to dress like a female ...now ...while I know I don't pass, I see what I tried achieve ...me!

[Becky Blue]

Further question for everyone on this theme, when you see yourself in the mirror vs pictures?

For me seeing myself in the mirror has always been a very emotional experience. Unlike pictures where many are dreadful, I always love seeing myself in the mirror. I guess for a picture your brain has to accept that is me, the mirror is far more confronting, that is me!! does that make sense?

[Teresa]

Becky,
When I take my pictures I line up a mirror alongside the camera so what I see in the mirror is the same as the picture. Most of my pictures now are taken at my social meetings by other people.

My pictures mean more to me than the mirror simply because it's my way of coming out, I touched on this before but it's connected with my AGP, UI want to be seen as a woman even if they see me in reality.

[Maria Blackwood]

Not so much a cop out as honestly thinking no one wants to see me. I don't much self esteem, truth be told. Also, not really in one of my periods where I stay shaven.

[Ashley090]

Most of times I start asking myself something like "Why are you doing that? What is point? Are you weird or something? Youb are stupid!" also feels kind of guilty for whatever reason. And then there is that mixture of feeling happy for revealing interesting part of me and sadness of not allowed me to express that part fully. There is also lots of confusion, bcs I dont know what "role" i wanna be "be a guy is fine, but it would be better to be a girl?" kind of question is floating in my mind o lot.
So yeah, seeing myself in mirror of picture en femme isnt exactly "happy thing" to be honest.

[Valery L]

Depressed.

[JaytoJillian]

Depressed.

BS. You know you are hot.

[Judith96a]

I'm interested to note how many of us have referred to seeing "the real me". My experience is slightly different, it's not so much a case of seeing the 'real me' as seeing a different version of 'me', one that's no more and no less 'real' than the male version. (Hope that makes sense to someone!)
Anyways, on the rare occasion that I see a good picture of me it's exhilarating (also satisfying, as in "I can do this and actually look reasonable"). The remaining photos are a disappointment. I keep a few good ones on my phone and sneak a peek every so often. Seeing Judith appearing in the mirror is beyond description!
Despite being a reasonably keen photographer, I find it incredibly difficult to take any decent photos of myself.
And then, a couple of weeks ago, another CDer whom I had met for the first time two days earlier said the sweetest thing, "Judith, you're one of the few girls who looks better in person than you do in your photos". That helped the confidence no end!

[ClosetED]

I have thousands of pics. I look at the pictures to bring back the joy I feel when dressed, when I can't dress, which is most of the time. When I started, it was just of my body, but once I learned makeup and got a better wig, I found I create a pretty illusion almost every time. I keep almost every pic, as each may be a lesson of what I did right or wrong. I do keep a separate collection of my favorites.
I am sure no one would recognize me from my pictures. Carla shared a story of my recent picture in the leather club dress I posted in upper and lower half to show bigger.

Funny, yesterday I was showing a friend a picture of my garage on my phone. He clicked to the next picture and said, "Whoa! Who's that hot bitch?"
As I took my phone back I said, "It's one of my online girlfriends." The reply, "Man! Does she have a sister?" I said, "I think she does!"

I don't mind since it is a way to get feedback from the public without me being there, just in case.

And Valery, if you are depressed seeing your beauty , it can only be from sadness that you are not dressed as often as you wish.
Hugs, Ellen

[SamanthaR]

I find that when I look at myself in the mirror I feel happy to see the pretty girl looking back at me. I like to fuss and ty different styles. I am a bit camera shy so I do't have any photos. I find that I get to critical.

[Beverley Sims]

Photographs or mirror,I seem to be falling apart.

Just patch up the wobbly bits and get on with it.

You can't beat deterioration, maybe you can get it out of a jar...... :-)

[sometimes_miss]

I don't take pictures of myself; I learned the hard way not to do that.
However, when I was married, at one point my wife had behaved as if it was OK if I dressed up; she even purchased some girl clothes for me. And she took some pictures. When we looked at them together, I just felt embarrassed.
I felt even dumber when she later used those pictures to blackmail me during the divorce.

No more pictures.

[Becky Blue]

I'm interested to note how many of us have referred to seeing "the real me". My experience is slightly different, it's not so much a case of seeing the 'real me' as seeing a different version of 'me', one that's no more and no less 'real' than the male version. (Hope that makes sense to someone!)
Anyways, on the rare occasion that I see a good picture of me it's exhilarating (also satisfying, as in "I can do this and actually look reasonable"). The remaining photos are a disappointment. I keep a few good ones on my phone and sneak a peek every so often. Seeing Judith appearing in the mirror is beyond description!
Despite being a reasonably keen photographer, I find it incredibly difficult to take any decent photos of myself.
And then, a couple of weeks ago, another CDer whom I had met for the first time two days earlier said the sweetest thing, "Judith, you're one of the few girls who looks better in person than you do in your photos". That helped the confidence no end!


Judith, I hear you on the decent photos, I find that only 1 in 5 is even half decent. I get a lot of enjoyment taking some of the bad photos and trying to be creative on photoshop and create something that is artistic and interesting. I am not talking about making my nose smaller or covering up a blemish but trying to create something fun or interesting.

It is a way I can allow my more creative/artistic side to come out and convert some shockers into quite decent pictures. I really enjoy looking at those pics later too.

[Steph65]

When I look at myself in the mirror I feel like a total different person. I even act a little different. The only thing is my voice wish it was more feminine.

[kimdl93]

hmmmm, interesting question. Historically, I hated my pictures - male or female - to what I would have to say was an unhealthy degree. Neither handsome enough or pretty enough by my estimation. But oddly, today at 64, having been up and down and up again in terms of my desire to live as a woman...today when I looked in the mirror for the first time in 18 months presenting as a woman, I just saw myself. Not on a 10 point scale, but as a worthwhile member of the human race. And frankly, even with nearly white hair and very modest make up, I felt quite comfortable as a woman.

[Jaymees22]

I must feel pretty good, I managed to wear out my first tri-pod and had to get a better one. I haven't taken as many pictures lately, getting out more or maybe I'm a little more confident in my presentation. I do look at my pictures quite often if I haven't had a chance to dress in a while, it helps. I think I usually look better in the mirror than in pictures, wishful thinking?

[natalie edwards]

From my recent thread on the same subject
It's just me!
I guess it's part of the evolution. While searching through my pictures for one to post in the sexy thread I've come to realize these pictures are just pictures of me. Years ago I'd be a bit aroused or think of them as me as a woman, always seeing the male features first. Now however when I browse through my latest pictures, I just see me! I don't see a guy dressed up or an awkward out of place person, just me.

[laciewhite]

How do i feel?

Horny!

[AKKaren]

:surrenderThe truth?....I see and feel like an old man fooling himself...and that makes me very sad.

[nikinylons]

I feel fantastic! It's taken a lot of hard work and imagination, but I do feel absolutely incredible.

[Becky Blue]

Such a range of emotions and feelings. So sad Karen, you certainly don't look like an old man in your Avatar pic.

[Roberto]

When I dress up,it makes me forget about all things about depression.

All that joy , to shave get into shower before getting dressed. That hype that you are about to doing it. Making all little things to be perfect.
Feeling, when you start with lingeria then pantyhose slowly. Then making up your make up but not all,I usually leave putting lipstick as a last piece of ctrossdressing, the joy of what to wear what to mix with blouse and skirt or other stuff.

And that excitement when you stare in the and mirror and take lipstick in your hands and finish your lips slowly.
And the happiness of that great work you have done how good I look, can't stop being happy. All that procces every single detail, is so enjoyable.

I just wish I had friend to do it together maybe do stuff go like outside for a walk.
Since me and my Gf are trying to understand what to do with my Cd thing.

[Amy Lynn3]

Yes, the many years I have dressed has been an emotional rollercoaster when I look in the mirror. I think for me it all depends on what I am wearing. My feelings can run from ho-hum to wonderful, this is the way I should look.

[Geena Gee]

Becky,
Sometimes I love what I see in the mirror. Unfortunately, I can't seem to capture that look in the mirror selfies. However, I've seen views of myself in pictures that I've never seen in the mirror. So, when I look at my favorite pictures, I feel happy. Confusing, huh?

-Geena

[Becky Blue]

Roberto, beautifully described, yes getting ready with girlfriends can be a joy in itself.

Amy, I can relate to what your saying too.

Geena, perhaps your problem is the mirror selfie, as you are holing a phone/camera. Perhaps try some shots using a self timer, maybe then you will be more relaxed?

No i don't think what you said is confusing, I can relate. I can really see 'the girl' in some of my pics and I love them, in quite a few cases I look very different from the person I see in the mirror.

[Amelie]

When I view one of my pics I see a cast member from the TV show Walking Dead, the zombie ones. But Hey, that's kinda cool.

[Cheryl T]

I think my feelings are similar to any woman.
I wish I was shorter, I wish I was thinner, I wish I had nicer hair, I wish my feet weren't so big.
I criticize my appearance and think If Only, but alas it is what is it is. I'm just happy that I can be who I am and enjoy my life.

[Becky Blue]

Funny you should say that Cheryl, we were talking about it in a group of friends (as far as I know no Tpeople) recently. There was general agreement that most women are unhappy with various parts of their bodies and that most men just accept what they have been dealt. The women with big boobs wanted smaller ones, the ones with smaller boobs wanted bigger ones etc..

[Lana Mae]

I feel strange if I look at my transformation pics! I was given four different looks and although they are all different they are all Lana Mae! The avatar picture is the first look and the first Lana Mae! It does not have the eye pop that my profile picture has! I am just amazed that they are all me! I can not get the make up right and still see me in the mirror! It may just be a matter of the right colors and technique. Overall though, the pictures make me feel good and Lana Mae is right there! Hugs Lana Mae PS: Valery, why depressed? You are lovely in your presentation! Special hugs!

[Angie G]

Some times very sad I can't look like a real gg. But I live with it I'm beautiful from the neck down.:hugs:
Angie

[Jemma-crossing]

When I look at my pictures I usually spend my time considering my look and what would make me more attractive. I think cross dressing for me is often about trying to look sexy, sometimes looking at my pictures is a big turn on too. Generally happy with my look from the neck down. Not sure I'll ever get the makeup right to think I look as sexy as I want facially. Got to work on the eyes and eye brows.

[NancySue]

After many years of trial and error, and my wife's help, I've finally "got it". When I look in the mirror or camera, I smile. I like what I see.....the "aha" moment is wonderful.

[ShirleyN]

Haven't had many photos of my femme self but the first time I did see myself fully dressed, I have to admit I was pleasantly surprised and intrigued to see my female self. It was a huge relief to finally be able to see this woman who I have inside me as part of who I am.
I completely agree with you becky, it really IS a huge shame that all of us "gurls" can't express our feminine sides because of what society expects us to be. But hopefully, that will continue to change.

[marilyn m]

i feel enpowered confident and wow shes back
ive missed you so much where have you been deep joy!!

[irene9999]

Depends on the pictures, sometimes I feel impressed and turned on when I see a look come together and I look cute! Other times when I see a bad picture, sometimes I look too "manish" or the makeup/lighting looks off so I feel disappointed

[nikkiwindsor]

I may have answered this before...but ditzy me, I don't remember...so, how do I feel?....While I feel liberated and content, I get too focused on how I look

[Shely]

Boy i am sure this is a popular thread. I have many pictures on Flikr and look through them regularly. I m sure that is typical here with most of the Gals. When i look at them I have a hard time believing that's me and i am a happily adjusted man. Well that may be open for discussion.
In my eyes I see an attractive middle aged, slender woman with a good figure. I'm sure my SO would be surprised at my pictures seeing that she has become so heavy. Anyway i do wonder when i am looking at my photos, where i m going with this if indeed i am going somewhere. But I do often look at the many pictures and fantasize about what kind of a woman i would have been. :daydreaming: