An interesting proposal

[jessica_brink]

Hi girls, I recently got an exciting but daring proposition from someone. It might sounds a bit strange but it's 100% true, so bear with me.

I'm a student, and recently I was at a friend's dorm where I regularly hang out. One of the people living there is a lesbian girl. She's about 30 but doesn't looks young for her age. There's a new LGBT club that she'd like to go to but is still a bit hestitant about going alone. I've got to know her pretty well and told her I'd accompany her if she'd like that. Letting the woman in me go a bit, I joked I'd even go as a girl. She lit up and loved the idea! She wanted to dress me up in her clothes, do my make-up, put a blonde wig on me (she already sent me pictures of two wigs that she owns, I can show you) and have me go with her like that. Being a closeted crossdresser I secretly loved it, but now I'm hesitant myself. I've never gone out as a woman (not even as a joke) and I don't want to incidently reveal too much of this side to others. I also get really turned on wearing women's clothes so I'll have to watch out for that too. Of course on the other hand this is somewhat of a dream come true, and she does have very nice clothes, trust me on that.

What should I do, is it worth the risk?
How should I act, both towards the dressing up and once as a girl?
What kind of outfit would be best for this occasion? Are there parts of women's clothing I definitely should(n't) wear?

Thank you all for the advice, again this is all truth

[Nikki A.]

If you don't do it you will regret it. Let her dress you and enjoy yourself.

[LeannS]

Jessica
Go for it but first do a preinspection per se. See what she would suggest and see if it would match your taste.
But have fun with it.
Leann

[docrobbysherry]

U haven't described what risks u will be taking, Jess? What r the chances someone who knows u mite attend this club meeting? If you're not out, u may be very safe if u just go there. :thumbsup:

Let the girl dress u appropriately for this event.

I get turned on often when dressing in private. :o
But, in hundreds of outings dressed, I've yet to even think about sex when out with others!:)

This is idea situation for u in my eyes. Because neither of u have anything invested in each. Yet!:heehee:

[Meghan4now]

Well, in the absence of any other details, I would definitely say go for it, but there is a chance word might get out. Depends if you care or not. I tend to agree that, if you are a crossdresser, many years from now you will either be glad you did, or regret you didnt.

As far as what to wear, that should be as much if not more fun than the actual going out. You might (should) buy your own underware. Have your friend help you size for a bra. The rest of it you may try different things. Best bet is a skirt or dress, maybe a top that doesn't show too much cleavage or arms. Remember to shave extra close and use orange beard cover under foundation. You want to do as good a job as possible. This is not a joke, and neither should you be one.

[Lana Mae]

Sounds OK to me! Go for it! Best wishes for a great time! Hugs Lana Mae

[Jodie_Lynn]

GO FOR IT!

If you are seen by anyone you know, you already have a reason/excuse: You are there to support a friend.

Once you get over the butterflies, you will have a blast. Good Luck & keep us posted on how it went.

[Roberta Lynn]

I join those that say you should do it.

Meghan has some good advice. Don't dress over the top. Wear something comfortable. Especially since this your first time out.
Now you will probably be nervous as heck. Enjoy yourself, keep your head up, own it.
If someone asks why your dressed like that just say 'Because I want To' That's all that needs to be said.
Make sure you have a safe way home if you and your friend get separated or if she wants to stay longer than you.
Again enjoy yourself!:)

[Stephanie47]

I say go for it. (L)(G)(B)(T), if you did go as a male and someone saw you there what would the person think you are? (G)? (B)? Neither of the two? Then with proper makeup, wig, and a pretty dress you have a chance of not being identified if there is someone there who would recognize you as a male. Now, you do run the risk of impersonating an identity you are going to try to hide or disavow. Someone may be pissed off. You may consider this as an opportunity to proclaim yourself.

[Teresa]

Jessica,
The simple, obvious answer is go out ,do it and enjoy it, you will regret it far more not doing so. Think where it will lead, it's so much fun being out dressed, the chances of being recognised are very small but after a while it won't bother you at all.

Don't forget the important item is something to get a good tuck , I find a pair of medium control panties on top of my normal ones does the job very well.

[Tracii G]

You're 24 hell yeah go for it !!!
If you get "found out" well so what you have a way now to tell your friends you are a CDer.
I did something similar in high school and went to a prom enfemme.
Had a blast and my friends never knew who that girl was.
The girls who made me up said I was from another school and my date never showed up so I was hanging out with them.
Danced with a few boys and some girls and had the time of my life.

[Brie84]

I agree with the others, this is a great opportunity for you and you should definitely go for it!

[Dana44]

Yes let her dress you and go with her. It is a great time together and if your don't do it. You will highly regret it later.

[NancySue]

Jessica...this is a "no brainer". Go, go, go. You'll regret it if you don't. Let her take the lead and let her dress you as completely as you and she want. You already know what you like. This is your big chance to go out. She sounds very open minded. Several,years ago, a local NFP had a fund raiser vaudeville show. They asked four of us to dress as women for a skit. They, to my delight, wanted us to dress as realistically as possible rather than slap stick. My wife was totally supportive and helped. So, no stones unturned...shaved legs, false eyelashes, hose, heels...the whole 9 yards. We brought the house down. I remember it often and smile. Go for it and don't hold back...trust me. Take pictures.

[Hell on Heels]

Hell-o Jessica,
You'll have to make your own risk assessment, but you've
already told your friend that you'd accompany her.
She seems so excited about the idea, I don't see an
option for you to back out now.

As far as "how to act?"...don't think about acting any way
other than just being yourself. I don't mean for you to go
sitting on the club couch doing your best "man spread",
a few slight mannerism adjustments are nessisary!
What I do mean is more about personality, just relax and be yourself.

What to wear? I'd let your friend help decide that.
If the two of you are about the same size, have her
model the outfits for you first, then pick what you
think works best for you.

Much Love,
Kristyn

[Sometimes Steffi]

It's a dream come true.

To be honest, if I had this opportunity when I was 20, I wouldn't have done it being too afraid someone would find out.

However, if I was 20 today, I would definitely do it. Things have changed a lot in the past 40 years.

Of course, you need to go by her place before the big event to try on some of her clothes to see what fits and what looks good on you.

[TheHiddenMe]

If you don't do it, there will be about a thousand volunteers from this board to take your place.

Pick up your phone, text her that you will do it, that it sounds like fun, and arrange a time when you can do a "test drive".

Just do it, take pictures, and come back and tell us all about your adventures.

[CynthiaD]

Definitely do it. I just got back from dinner at a fancy restaurant, completely en femme. I couldn't even imagine going out in drab.

[Becky Blue]

I would go for it. Life is too short for regrets. It is a wonderful opportunity to go out to a fun place in a safe environment with a friend. Most of the people on here would kill to have had such an easy start for their first time out. There is a fairly strong chance that you will land up going out one day anyway so why not now?

[JenniferR771]

Sounds like a fun experience! Oh my, Yes!
However...its mysterious...most lesbians do not own a dress. Nor a wig. Nor makeup. Pantyhose--not likely.
High heel shoes--not a chance. Bring your own.
Does she know the truth? Will she guess the truth about your "hobby"? Are you ready for that?
Will your deep voice be a problem at the venue?
When you go to the bathroom--sit down.

[Joanne Curl]

Absolutely do it! If you're on this website then of course you've already considered it. This is your chance. A perfect opportunity to do what you've already been thinking about. GO FOR IT!!!!!

[Sara Jessica]

From personal similar experience, DO IT!!!

For whatever reason, SOME girls/young women like to dress & make up guys. For whatever reason, SOME guys are cool with it. MANY/most aren't and they either don't play the game or protest throughout.

Go with the flow as you have a chance to have this experience with what you desire, a nearly flawless cover. Who knows where that might lead? More out & about experiences that you will cherish or retreat back into the closet. Either way, you'll have this experience to always look back on with fondness.

[baldy1]

Sound like a trial dress is in order before commiting yourself?

Julie

[chelyann]

go for it
it will be your first outing, most of us only dreamed of this chance for our first time.

[jennifer0918]

Don't worry just do it you will have so much fun.

[bridget thronton]

Enjoy and remember you're belong a friend

[KimberlyJean]

I have had a couple of offers to be dressed up, I refused because I wasn't sure of myself and if I could go back and do it again I would choose to dress. The most fun I have ever had while dressed was out at LGBT bar, the women that were there treated me like one of the girls and I had a blast.

If I were you I wouldn't pass up this opportunity.

[donnalee]

If you look at this from a risk - reward standpoint, the rewards will be great and the risks almost nil. You will never have a better way of getting out with a willing and helpful coach to ease you over any rough spots.

"Of all sad words of tongue or pen, the saddest are these, 'It might have been.'" - john Greenlief Whittier

[alwayshave]

Jessica, your young and a student. This the time where you will be most accepted for "experimenting". So what is the risk. Go for it.

[Jamie Lynn]

DEFINITELY go for it! You've got a partner to help you and you'll be there for each others support. Sounds like a lot of fun to me!

[deebra]

Absolutely do it, of course wear your panties, bra and heels and at the end of the night and she's a lesbian and you are dressed as a girl it's perfectly O.K. if you kiss her good night. Lipstick on lipstick.

[Kate Simmons]

I say go for it Jessica. If you never try, you'll never know. Have fun. :battingeyelashes::)

[Krisi]

You've been given a lot of suggestions to "just do it" and someone even said it was a "no brainer".

I suggest you engage your brain and think about this. Do you have the wig, breast forms and hip padding to pull this off, to actually pass as a woman? When you dress up and with your wig on, are you recognizable as your male self? What about your voice?

What is the likelihood of people you know seeing you? What is the likelihood of them recognizing you? What is the likelihood of word of this getting back to people you know or family members?

This is a bit like the "dressing as a woman for Halloween" thing. If you do a lousy job of presenting with a costume wig, rolled up socks for breasts and no hip padding, it will be taken as a one time joke. On the other hand, if you have a good wig, good forms, good butt padding, good makeup and carry yourself as a woman, people will easily figure out that this isn't the first time you've dressed as a woman.

Someone mentioned that you are young and at the age where experimenting may be OK. This is true up to a point. At your age and situation, this is less likely to affect your career than if you did it at age 40 with a career and family.

It's something you have to decide for yourself. Don't look at the posts on this forum as a vote, people here will not be affected by you following their advice, you will. Think about it.

[Sherrii]

Go for it. Not only will you be helping out this woman, you may find she/the group will help you out with CDing. She may find she likes you as a woman and you may have a future as friends this way or more. Or you may meet someone who will accept or enjoy your CDing. Go for it.

[DIANEF]

Do it, life is too short for 'I wish I had done that'

[Tabitha_Lynn]

You should do it for yourself, to support your friend, and for the rest of us here who would die for such an opportunity. You only live once and there are no do overs.

[CONSUELO]

Sure there are risks involved but just getting into your car and driving is a risky thing to do. By all means think it through carefully but if you don't do this I believe it will be on your "I wish I had done that" list of regrets.

[RainbowDash]

As someone who has been CDing for less than a year, I am most definitely not ready to come out of the closet, nowhere close. But if I were presented with an opportunity like this, especially having a girl help me out with my clothes and so on, I'd most likely take advantage of the offer. Of course I'd only go if I could be assured no one else I knew was going to be there, or that I wouldn't be made fun of or harassed by others for dressing up like a woman. I know that I'd never forgive myself if I didn't go, and not a single day would go by that I didn't think about it and wish I had gone. Go and have fun!

[Whinlatter]

Krisi gives a sensible word of advice, think carefully, but I know I would give an awful lot for that sort of opportunity as someone relatively new to all of this.

Stacey :)

[Krea]

Hi Jessica,
I am very envious. It sounds like an amazing chance for you to break the ice in terms of going out and having a female friend for moral support while you are out could be a real help.
Maybe this is your big opportunity. Enjoy!
Nic :)

[Micki_Finn]

If your dorms are anything like mine were, chances are high that everyone already knows that you're going out crossdressed so you might as well go through with it.

[sometimes_miss]

Go for it, and enjoy yourself. Make sure you thank her for her efforts. No matter what happens, remember that in the future you can always claim, that you 'used to be a crossdresser'. That seems to go over better than currently doing it, kind of like you grew out of it or something that lay people will accept.

[DMichele]

Jessica, I too agree that you should do it. Perhaps communicate your concerns with your friend and perhaps she would agree to a 'practice' session or two in advance. Good luck!

[Helen_Highwater]

Absolutely go for it. Don't and it's possible you'll regret this for the rest of your life. Someone recently quoted to me; don't count the days, make the days count, which I think is attributed to Mohamed Ali.

One piece of advice. Be prepared to be hit upon and have your, and I assume you're not gay, "Thanks for the compliment but you're not my type" excuse. Apart from that just enjoy!

[JamieG]

This sounds like a good opportunity. I'm guessing that you and your friend have discussed LGBT issues before, and you have identified yourself as an ally. Have you ever talked about the transgender side of LGBT with her? If so, has she expressed any feelings on that subject matter? If she appears to understand how to be an transgender ally, you may want to think about coming out to her before you visit the LGBT meeting. Having someone who knows and is supportive is invaluable. If you haven't talked about it, a possible opening is: "I want to make sure that I won't offend anyone who is transgender." Then you can discuss "what you've seen online" about being a transgender ally.

Another possible step, is to ask that you give the outfit a trial run in the privacy of one of your dorm rooms, in order to make sure that you feel comfortable before committing (reassuring her that you'll still attend with her regardless, but you may be more comfortable in boy clothes). If that goes well, that could be an opportunity to come out. Regardless, please don't expect that this will turn into anything other than a friendship. Don't think that since she's lesbian, that seeing you in drag will suddenly make her attracted to you.

The last thing you may want to discuss is how you will get from one of your rooms to the meeting without being seen, especially by people who know you. If that is a big concern, maybe you can find a single occupant restroom near the meeting place, and change there? And have a story prepared in case Murphy's law rears its ugly head and you can't avoid running into someone.

If you don't do this, you will likely regret it later in life. But, you should still play it safe, and make sure you have taken sufficient precautions that you won't be outed before you are ready. Regardless of whether you decide to dress or not, I do encourage you to regularly attend the meetings with her. Remember as an ally, that you should listen more than you speak. But as you get to know people in the organization, hopefully you'll get to a point where you'll be comfortable coming out to them. And know, that these groups have strict rules about not outing someone else.

Please keep us updated.

EDIT: I just looked back and realized that I might have misread "LGBT Club." I assumed you were talking about an on-campus student club, but you are probably talking about a night club. That changes some of the advice. There's no guarantee that you won't be outed by someone you meet there. Especially if straight people sometimes attend the club.

[Nikkilovesdresses]

she does have very nice clothes, trust me on that.

Drool...can we see...? Please??

[Lacey New]

Wow! What are at opportunity. I'd go for it and I would definitely let her know that dressing is something that is part of you.

[Krisi]

........ life is too short for 'I wish I had done that'

That's not good advice. There are many times in my past when I considered doing something and now understand how that thing could have had a negative effect on my entire life.

If you stop and think, there are things you have done in the past that affected your entire future.

[Confucius]

Be honest with her. Tell her you would like to do it, but you lack the confidence. Tell her you have never gone out in public dressed, and the idea is sort of scary. So you need her help in building up your confidence. Ask her if she'd be willing to help build your confidence by dressing in the safety and privacy of the home first. Work on your appearance, your walk, your mannerisms, etc. Then try something simply like riding along with her in a car while dressed. After several rehersals, I think you'll be ready for prime time.

[BrendaPDX]

As most have said, GO FOR IT! You have a rare opportunity, for self enlightenment and to offer support to a person in need. Don't let this pass you by because you got self-conscious at the last minute. You will remember this day forever, and hopefully it will be a good memory. Be sure to update us on how it went; we want details! Thanks for asking all of us. Brenda

[Kiwi Primrose]

Go for it. I agree with Teresa about tucking, if you are not sure how to do it properly you have time to learn.
This would take away any excitement worries.

[DIANEF]

That's not good advice. .

I was actually referring to the good things one can miss out on. I personally wish I had done more travelling around the world, things like that. If something potentially bad could happened you wouldn't wish you had done it would you.

[Jodie_Lynn]

That's not good advice. There are many times in my past when I considered doing something and now understand how that thing could have had a negative effect on my entire life.

If you stop and think, there are things you have done in the past that affected your entire future.

Sooooo you do nothing, because something bad "might" happen?

If you really stop to think about it, EVERYTHING you have done in the past has affected your life, for good or for ill. And yes, I agree that almost everyone has had one of those "hold my beer & watch this" moments. Some folks more than once.... But not every decision is a life or death, make or break moment. The OP has been given an opportunity to stretch her wings a little and to support a friend. Could there/will there be consequences? Damnbetcha! but by not going, she will always think: woulda, coulda, shoulda and regret a missed opportunity.

my 2 centavos

[DIANEF]

Just thought I'd throw this in.

279710

[Angie G]

OMG Jessica I would be there in a flash girl. Go for it hun.:hugs:
Angie

[taruhhhh]

i would jump on that opprotunity :D
and as for the getting turned on, just tuck it in tight ! :)

[Joyce Swindell]

Just a quick note..... (shouldn't be here now) You don't know what she has imagined in her mind for what to put you in. Maybe jeans and makeup??? Who knows. I would just go for it . If there is concern then say stuff like "so what about underwear....do I need to get my own?" or "I'm a guy that generally doesn't do things "half way" and I'm not sure I'd be comfortable wearing your underwear". This could possibly make a shopping trip with her happen too!

[NylonMan]

I am anxiously awaiting a reply to this. I would like to know how the night went.

[Teresa]

Krisi,
Please don't assume some of us need all the extras you listed , OK I go along with makeup and wig and something to give you a reasonably shaped bust but not all of us need hip and butt padding, in fact I wouldn't have had room in the leather skirt in my avatar . Also the voice is not that important, no one I've met in the TG community uses a false voice, even so the chances of someone recognising you are very slim.

Despite what you advise not many of us here would give up the same opportunity.

The important thing is we are not women, we are transgendered men who on the whole do a good job of becoming convincing females as long as we wear appropriate clothes for the occasion .

[looking_good]

Oh you absolutely MUST go. And then enjoy! Cheers. Take pics.

[Robyn2006]

Hi Jessica,
I know full well what you're worried about, and it's a tough decision when you don't want to reveal this side of your life, yourself. For what it's worth, and coming from someone a bit long in the tooth and completely closeted (sadly due to my career), I'd kill to go back to when I was your age and have this opportunity. OMG...To have a young woman help you dress up and to go out with you? Such things don't happen for many of us, certainly not me.

How should I act, both towards the dressing up and once as a girl?
Just be yourself, saying you took a dare. Ask laughingly, "So, how do I look?"

What kind of outfit would be best for this occasion? Are there parts of women's clothing I definitely should(n't) wear?
I say go as beautiful and/or sexy as you want. Really, once you jump over the gender fence, you're in that yard and the degree to which you're there really won't matter. Allow your inner dreams to come true while, if needed, presenting yourself as it all just being a crazy, fun lark.

Hope you do this, but only if you promise to have fun!!! :cute:

[Jenny22]

You say you'd be concerned about being discovered. So consider this approach...

Let HER pass the word around to the dorm females that you are being such a great guy for agreeing to do it for her. Its much akin to performing in a woman-less pagent, for example. Her sizes may not be yours, but with the word out, other females could be asked to help by loaning clothes and shoes that may be more correctly sized. If there is concern about lingerie loaning, have her go with you to a charity or discount shop. Ditto for any other garments needed. There's always a Walmart around, too. Chicken fillets? I'll be some dorm gals have them, too.

In this way, you'll not be discovered. Others will know before the dress up ever happens. The word will get out to the dorm guys, too. Who knows? There may be one or two who'd like to participate, too.

Just a scientific, wild ass suggestion.

[jacques]

hello Jessica,
if you know that the club is in a safe area then go for it.
I bet many of the members here would loved to be dressed by a girl friend and taken to a club... it rids us of a lot of guilt to be able to say that it eas the friends idea or that we are only doing it to help a friend.
luv J

[Brandy Mathews]

I agree, you go gurl, have fun!

[~Joanne~]

I hate to go outside the box here because this is/was every one of our dreams/fantasies. It might be a once in a lifetime experience that you may even spend the rest of your life regretting if you don't BUT I have to agree with Krisi 100% here. Everyone telling you to do it is telling you this because it doesn't affect their lives at all, and I am not trying to sound nasty about it, but it doesn't. It's the same as telling everyone to get out there because no one cares or will even pay attention and we all know that's not a true statement either.


Ultimately it is YOUR choice, You have to weigh both sides out like Krisi stated and see where You stand after some good long thinking about it. I know the idea excites you, hell, it would excite me but what will the fallout be for doing such and are you truly ready for that fallout? A lot of times the reason a lot of us don't go past the front door (or very often if we do) is because we are afraid of the fallout that may come with it. be smart and think it completely through.....it's not bad if you do, it's not bad if you don't, it's completely up to YOU to decide.

[HollyGreene]

I'd do it. In fact there was a car enthusiasts club I belonged to many years ago which had a close to 50:50 mix of young men and women. At one meeting one of the women suggested that the (the women) all arrange to go to a local night club that was having a women only night (there were going to be male strippers). Then somebody suggested that some of the guys could also go if they dressed us up. So 3 of us did. They found us suitable dresses, shoes, wigs etc., and did our makeup and they made us look quite convincing. At that time, being a CD, LGBT etc., was not widely accepted, so it was very daring of us, but anyone who knew (ie the other club members) just thought we were doing it for a lark. Nobody suspected that I was secretly loving every minute of it.
The good thing was that with the girls doing our make up and styling our hair, we genuinely looked like women, and we were basically unrecognisable to anyone who knew us.
At the night club, security didn't seem to notice (or care).
We had a great night (although I'm definitely not into male strippers!)

[TrishaLake]

dear lord yes! go! That sounds like so much fun.

[Krisi]

I hate to go outside the box here because this is/was every one of our dreams/fantasies. It might be a once in a lifetime experience that you may even spend the rest of your life regretting if you don't BUT I have to agree with Krisi 100% here. Everyone telling you to do it is telling you this because it doesn't affect their lives at all, and I am not trying to sound nasty about it, but it doesn't. It's the same as telling everyone to get out there because no one cares or will even pay attention and we all know that's not a true statement either.


Ultimately it is YOUR choice, You have to weigh both sides out like Krisi stated and see where You stand after some good long thinking about it. I know the idea excites you, hell, it would excite me but what will the fallout be for doing such and are you truly ready for that fallout? A lot of times the reason a lot of us don't go past the front door (or very often if we do) is because we are afraid of the fallout that may come with it. be smart and think it completely through.....it's not bad if you do, it's not bad if you don't, it's completely up to YOU to decide.

Thank you for bringing some reality into this thread.

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Krisi,
Please don't assume some of us need all the extras you listed , OK I go along with makeup and wig and something to give you a reasonably shaped bust but not all of us need hip and butt padding, in fact I wouldn't have had room in the leather skirt in my avatar . Also the voice is not that important, no one I've met in the TG community uses a false voice, even so the chances of someone recognising you are very slim.

Despite what you advise not many of us here would give up the same opportunity.

The important thing is we are not women, we are transgendered men who on the whole do a good job of becoming convincing females as long as we wear appropriate clothes for the occasion .

Your advice is fine for a transsexual but the originator of this thread has not identified as transsexual. My assumption is that she is a closeted crossdresser who wishes to remain closeted at this time.

One of the problems of web forums is that people post from their own perspective and situation. Not everyone has that same perspective and situation.

[deebra]

Jeassica,
I'm not sure your questions were answered so I'll try.
Definitely go, don't miss a great opportunity.
If you could look like your avatar that would be a great top; Mid thigh mini skirt (will make you feel girly), hose and 3" heels (practice before). Definitely bra and panties/thong. If something comes up while getting dressed she will like the idea of you getting turned on, when things go down go in the bath room and do the tuck, then show her how much you look like her.
Act like you normally would, low key but on the feminine side.
After you set down and order a glass of wine, not a beer you will start to relax and really, really enjoy being a girl. Also slow dance close with your friend. It will add to the evening.
I predict this will just be the start of something GREAT between the two of you.

You now have the advise, do it and let us know.

[Becky Blue]

Krisi, the fact that the OP posted shows that she is very tempted to take up the opportunity. If she wasn't considering it we would not have heard about it at all. People telling her to go for it are all basically saying given the limited information available they would go for it as opportunities like that are very rare as most of us will attest to. Of course you have as much right as anyone to provide your opinion, but I totally disagree that to go out one needs hip and butt pads. I have been out well over 20 times without any padding. Take a close look at any bunch of women less than 50% have the classic hourglass figure that we all aspire to.

[sweetdreams]

So Jessica, you've been very quite. What are your plans? When is this going to happen?

[Krisi]

Krisi, the fact that the OP posted shows that she is very tempted to take up the opportunity. If she wasn't considering it we would not have heard about it at all. People telling her to go for it are all basically saying given the limited information available they would go for it as opportunities like that are very rare as most of us will attest to. Of course you have as much right as anyone to provide your opinion, but I totally disagree that to go out one needs hip and butt pads. I have been out well over 20 times without any padding. Take a close look at any bunch of women less than 50% have the classic hourglass figure that we all aspire to.

If you feel that you pass as a woman without womanly hips and butt, that's fine for you. And the fact that you have been out 20 times without them is irrelevant. I have photos of me dressed and I believe I look far more feminine with hip and butt padding than without.

I have taken a close look at women and I continue to do so and in my experience, except for very thin and very fat women, almost all have noticeable hips and butts. Perhaps not "hourglass" but decidedly female. I suggest that you sit and watch people walking away from you and try to decide if they are male or female from the back view.

I just posted on another thread that we have the disadvantage of trying to pass as females while having male bodies. Strapping on a pair of boobs and a wig is a start but every little bit helps with the illusion. Having feminine hips and butt goes a long way towards that.

You are correct though, in saying that you don't have to have hips to go out. You can go out anyway you please. Some members here go out wearing a dress but with a beard and bald head. That's their choice. My choice is to do everything possible to attempt to pass as a woman. To each his/her own.

[Becky Blue]

Kristi, there is a very big difference between going out without padding and going out with a beard... I believe that the obvious gender markers such as heels, long hair, makeup and noticeable boobs is usually more than sufficient to blend. Add a dress or skirt and the vast majority will not process past the obvious..

[jessica_brink]

However...its mysterious...most lesbians do not own a dress. Nor a wig. Nor makeup. Pantyhose--not likely.
High heel shoes--not a chance. Bring your own.

Does she know the truth? Will she guess the truth about your "hobby"? Are you ready for that?
Will your deep voice be a problem at the venue?
When you go to the bathroom--sit down.

She might be lesbian but is not a stereotype. She does wear dresses, makeup etc. She doesn't know the truth, no one does, and I don't see this as coming out. And yes I will mind my voice and sit down in the bathroom like a proper girl ;)


You've been given a lot of suggestions to "just do it" and someone even said it was a "no brainer".

I suggest you engage your brain and think about this. Do you have the wig, breast forms and hip padding to pull this off, to actually pass as a woman? When you dress up and with your wig on, are you recognizable as your male self? What about your voice?

What is the likelihood of people you know seeing you? What is the likelihood of them recognizing you? What is the likelihood of word of this getting back to people you know or family members?

This is a bit like the "dressing as a woman for Halloween" thing. If you do a lousy job of presenting with a costume wig, rolled up socks for breasts and no hip padding, it will be taken as a one time joke. On the other hand, if you have a good wig, good forms, good butt padding, good makeup and carry yourself as a woman, people will easily figure out that this isn't the first time you've dressed as a woman.

Someone mentioned that you are young and at the age where experimenting may be OK. This is true up to a point. At your age and situation, this is less likely to affect your career than if you did it at age 40 with a career and family.

It's something you have to decide for yourself. Don't look at the posts on this forum as a vote, people here will not be affected by you following their advice, you will. Think about it.

To us it's not all about being able to pass as a woman. If I do, that's wonderful but that's not what the night is about. It's just for fun, at least for her.
There might be people to recognize me or not, depends. Thing is because it's just for fun, I can use that as an excuse.


This sounds like a good opportunity. I'm guessing that you and your friend have discussed LGBT issues before, and you have identified yourself as an ally. Have you ever talked about the transgender side of LGBT with her? If so, has she expressed any feelings on that subject matter? If she appears to understand how to be an transgender ally, you may want to think about coming out to her before you visit the LGBT meeting. Having someone who knows and is supportive is invaluable. If you haven't talked about it, a possible opening is: "I want to make sure that I won't offend anyone who is transgender." Then you can discuss "what you've seen online" about being a transgender ally.

Another possible step, is to ask that you give the outfit a trial run in the privacy of one of your dorm rooms, in order to make sure that you feel comfortable before committing (reassuring her that you'll still attend with her regardless, but you may be more comfortable in boy clothes). If that goes well, that could be an opportunity to come out. Regardless, please don't expect that this will turn into anything other than a friendship. Don't think that since she's lesbian, that seeing you in drag will suddenly make her attracted to you.

The last thing you may want to discuss is how you will get from one of your rooms to the meeting without being seen, especially by people who know you. If that is a big concern, maybe you can find a single occupant restroom near the meeting place, and change there? And have a story prepared in case Murphy's law rears its ugly head and you can't avoid running into someone.

If you don't do this, you will likely regret it later in life. But, you should still play it safe, and make sure you have taken sufficient precautions that you won't be outed before you are ready. Regardless of whether you decide to dress or not, I do encourage you to regularly attend the meetings with her. Remember as an ally, that you should listen more than you speak. But as you get to know people in the organization, hopefully you'll get to a point where you'll be comfortable coming out to them. And know, that these groups have strict rules about not outing someone else.

Please keep us updated.

EDIT: I just looked back and realized that I might have misread "LGBT Club." I assumed you were talking about an on-campus student club, but you are probably talking about a night club. That changes some of the advice. There's no guarantee that you won't be outed by someone you meet there. Especially if straight people sometimes attend the club.

She just knows I have no problems with LGBT people and I wanna support her. I have no intention of coming out to her as a CD, at least not at the moment.
I also don't expect to get into a relationship with her just because I'm dressed as a girl. She's a friend to me and that's all. Maybe a kiss, who knows, but no more.
Also yes, it's not an LGBT club, just a night club.


How should I act, both towards the dressing up and once as a girl?
Just be yourself, saying you took a dare. Ask laughingly, "So, how do I look?"

That's cute! I can imagine myself twirling around like a princess and asking her that question


So Jessica, you've been very quite. What are your plans? When is this going to happen?

I've been away for some time, I'm just now reading and replying, but I'm going to write an update in a sec!

[Mickitv]

I would go in a heartbeat. I did have a girls night out with a woman after a professional makeover and loved every minute of it. I always felt it was worth the risk and as someone has already said I knew I would regret it if I did not do it. Go for it Girlfriend and enjoy.

[jessica_brink]

Hi everyone, I've been away for some time and haven't had the opportunity to come here but now I've finally and read all your messages and have already replied to certain posts or statements as you can see. Now, let me give you an update of what's happening.

Inspired by the - pretty much unanimous - advice to go for it, I've confirmed my friend I'll go with her dressed up as a girl. We did agree that we'll be trying on outfits in her room first before I go out like this to make sure I look somewhat convincing, that we'll keep this on the down low to other friends, AND that she's going to give me a little bit of training on female mannerisms during the try-out session.

The try-out will take place this Thursday, she's going to have some clothes laid out for me. I've no idea which ones exactly, but we did already decide that's I'm going to be wearing a dress. Like I mentioned in my OP she has two wigs so we'll try those on, and she already insisted I wear a bra and panties, so no need to worry about that anymore.

I can imagine many of you wanna see pictures. As of right now I can't say if I'll be confident enough to share pics of myself as a girl, but I'll definitely try to take pics of the clothes and wigs, so stay tuned for that.

Once again, thanks for the support, girls! If you're just tuning in, please continue to tell me your advice.

Jessica xxx

[ClosetED]

Glad to hear you are going for it. Since she does not know, you don't have to let on you have enjoyed this in the past. Let her do it all for you but you can encourage her to do all she wants simply because you see how much she enjoys this - you are just glad to make her happy. You can later admit you did enjoy this "first" experience and you would be willing to do it again for her. If someone questions you during the meeting, you can say you are doing this only because she asked you to and you support her 100% as well as general LGBT causes.
As to future relationship, maybe seeing you are able to be the best of both worlds, might open up possibilities. You can start letting her think she opened this new world to you, and later you can share your prior love.
Hugs, Ellen

[Becky Blue]

Great the hear Jessica you will have an amazing time, its such a perfect opportunity

...word of warning.. you will be hooked for life!!! I am very jealous of you as I think back to my first night out it was over 10 years ago and I can still remember every detail.

Best Advice I can give is - don't worry about passing, just try blend in and don't worry what strangers may think, Oh and take lots of pictures!!!

[Jessicajane]

absolutely go for it, ...you don't have to out yourself and can play the shy and embarrassed part..but if she asks you at the end of the night how you felt...be a little honest and tell her it was actually really good fun she might encourage it again..

[Glenda]

Glad you made your decision. Many years ago one of the girls on my APA 8-ball team invited me to dress and go to one of the lesbian bars that had recently opened. I went with her and her partner and two other straight girls from our bar. We had a great time and I still go out with all of them some twenty years later. Don't worry. It will be a blast.

[Lisalove1976]

I'm sure you will have a blast Jessica... I had a chance once that I turned down and regretted it for a LONG TIME.... make the most of it and have fun, you are not alone like most of us were/are so run with it.
as for pictures you should REALLY take some or have her take them on your phone that way you will have the only copies and you really shouldn't worry about posting them here as this community is GREAT and VERY supportive.

[Beverley Sims]

Go for it....
I did years ago and never looked back.
You are likely to get yourself a girlfriend or two also.
Not the one you are talking about, but, straight? ones..... :-)

[suzanne]

You have hit the motherlode in the friend girl department. Most of us in this forum can only dream of meeting a woman as supportive as your friend. I'm with everyone else who says "don't hesitate to go for it"

You say you're not really ready to be out? Why not let her believe she's the one who converted you to the joys of crossdresssing? Tell her you never imagined you could look and feel this wonderful. And it's probably not inaccurate either, because she will take you to a level of detail and sophistication that you haven't managed to do on your own.

Again, I say ENJOY!

[Janine cd]

I agree. This is a real opportunity to see yourself as a real woman.

[Jessica May]

Hey Jessica,
I'm glad you are getting the chance to try this and experience it in a setting with a friend. It really can be incredible . My first time going out was with the help of friends and I was truly lucky to get to enjoy the experience fully with them. I hope you have a great time trying on things today! and don't feel pressured to post photos dressed. Take things at your own pace as you feel comfortable. Each little step leads to something new. I hope this turns out to be a great experience for you.

All the best,
Jess

[Stephanie Nicole]

I guess I am a little too late to comment but it seems your on the right track with letting her dress you and teach you mannerisms to help pass. But my concerns are ( from my own college experiences thought I did not dress then) (a) College dorms are very busy places and if you are not out yet nut people there know you (and I'm sure they probably do) no matter how convincing you are, chances are high that someone will recognize you, (b) I don't know where on campus the meeting will take place bit you will at some point be walking across campus to the meeting or to a vehicle to get to the meeting and again that means crossing paths with other students.
I know when I attended college even though I didn't know I personally didn't know people it seemed like everyone was a friend of a friend so when something did occur it spread like wildfire across campus and eventually everyone knew about and in a relatively short time.
So my suggestion is to let her dress you up and practice the mannerisms and after that if you are comfortable with the risks then I say go for it, but if you even have a shred of concern that you will be found out and you think the risk and repercussions will be too high then I would say not to do it. I'm sure that is not the answer you were looking for but hers and your safety needs to be of paramount concern.

[5150 Girl]

Remember, this is a GBLT event! You will be among friends/ others in the or similar boat as you!
Also, you mentioned have some things of your own... I'd bring them to the try on session as well.

[ShelbyDawn]

I can't tell you what the best answer for your will be but I will say this; If I'd had that opportunity at your age, I wold have jumped all over it and at nearly 60, I have more regrets about things I never tried than things I tried that failed(and some abysmally) :)

[Sarasometimes]

You call yourself a closeted crossdresser but in 2015 you posted about how you arranged to spend 2 weeks living as 'housewife' with a man you met 6 month earlier? We never heard how that worked out?
After the housewife experience why would you need to ask us how to act like a girl? Bye

[jessica_brink]

I guess I am a little too late to comment but it seems your on the right track with letting her dress you and teach you mannerisms to help pass. But my concerns are ( from my own college experiences thought I did not dress then) (a) College dorms are very busy places and if you are not out yet nut people there know you (and I'm sure they probably do) no matter how convincing you are, chances are high that someone will recognize you, (b) I don't know where on campus the meeting will take place bit you will at some point be walking across campus to the meeting or to a vehicle to get to the meeting and again that means crossing paths with other students.
I know when I attended college even though I didn't know I personally didn't know people it seemed like everyone was a friend of a friend so when something did occur it spread like wildfire across campus and eventually everyone knew about and in a relatively short time.
So my suggestion is to let her dress you up and practice the mannerisms and after that if you are comfortable with the risks then I say go for it, but if you even have a shred of concern that you will be found out and you think the risk and repercussions will be too high then I would say not to do it. I'm sure that is not the answer you were looking for but hers and your safety needs to be of paramount concern.

I live in Belgium, here college and campuses are different from the US. It's basically just a house where a couple of people live together. Also it's not a meeting, just a LGBT bar. Also, should someone see me, I can simply say it's to support my friend, not to be taken too seriously.

[joank]

and what happened? The try on take place?

[jessica_brink]

Ok girls, this is what happened at the try-out. I went to her place, nervous as hell but also really excited. She had laid out some clothes already which got me reaally excited. First the make-up, nothing too much, just some lipstick, blush and mascara. Then we tried on two blonde wigs. I went for the longer of the two. Then I changed into a pair of panties and a bran she didn't mind. We filled the bra with water balloons. My breasts were quite big but then again she's quite busty as well, and I loved having them. Finally, we tried on several dresses until we decided to go for a long black one. Now I have to say, it felt sooo good showing off! I twirled around A LOT, feeling a bit like a princess. I also felt like I could be that person with her. Then she got me in some high heels and she taught me how to walk feminine (hands on hips),
which actually wasn't that bad. I also learned how to sit properly like a girl and then to practice my voice we pretended to be calling each other on the phone, like giggling girls talking about girl stuff. Overall it was a wonderful experience and I can't wait for us to go out actually. It took me some time to come down that's why I dodn't immediately post this. I didn't hesitate too much and my feminine behavior came quite naturally once I dressed up like a lady (apparently I'm quite girly for a girl and a bit of a bitch even at times haha). Now I didn't take any pics of myself, still not sure about that, but I did quickly take pics of the two wigs (I went for the long one as I said) and her panty drawer (I wore the pink one in the top right corner) just to give you girls something. I'll make a pic of the dress later, promise. Thanks again all of you for your kinds words of support.
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[nvlady]

You realize of course that now you must either come out to her, or at a minimum tell her you really enjoyed the experience and would like to do it again.

[Connie.Marie]

Jessica,
Congrats on getting dressed and being seen by your friend! I'm sure it was quite a rush.
So glad that it feels wonderful for you. It's great when you have a GG that helps.

Pics of the event would be nice. BTW, when is it?

Just a few suggestions,
borrow a purse (and keep track of it), take a pair of flats in your purse to change into when your feet need a break.
Take the water balloons down a notch from quite big to just big :-).
Pay attention to how she does your makeup. Ask questions to learn how to do it yourself. If a good opportunity comes up before the event, ask her to help you find the right shades of foundation & eye shadow for you.
Relax & Have fun.


NVLady,
No need for her to "come out".
Her friend saw Jessica's reaction so she already knows.

Hugs, Connie

[Sometimes Steffi]

So, let's be honest. You just won the lottery, and you almost didn't even buy the lottery ticket.

Your reactions, nervousness and excitement at the beginning, exhilaration in the middle, and a high so high that you didn't come down for days is very similar to what I felt my first time out of the house.

I hope there is much more to come. This girl may be hiding a deep dark secret from you. She may be Bi, and/or she might have enjoyed dressing you up as much or more than you enjoyed being dressed up. Somehow, things lined up almost too perfectly in that you are the same size in clothes and shoes, and she had wigs for you to put on.

[Territx]

I agree with others, (1) you did win the lottery and (2) you at least need to tell her that you enjoyed it/had a good time. Other than that, enjoy and relish every minute because these opportunities do not come around often, if at all, and if/when they do they pass so very quickly.

[deebra]

You could practice at home before going out, good excuse to get into bra, panties and heels and makeup. If you wanted to push the experiment to let her know you like the idea of dressing as a girl then you could ask her to borrow the clothing so you could practice at home. Would this put the CD thought in her head that you like to dress female, absolutely and this may not be a bad thing. Your previous thread said she insisted you wear a bra and panties. Sounds like she likes you in bra, panties, girl clothes. Yes you won the lottery.

[macada10]

And how were her reactions? Did she asked you to repeat? Did she flirt or you were acting as a couple?

[5150 Girl]

A word of caution.... For the day of the event, I would find an alternative to water balloons as they tend to pop rather easily!

[jessica_brink]

You could practice at home before going out, good excuse to get into bra, panties and heels and makeup. If you wanted to push the experiment to let her know you like the idea of dressing as a girl then you could ask her to borrow the clothing so you could practice at home. Would this put the CD thought in her head that you like to dress female, absolutely and this may not be a bad thing. Your previous thread said she insisted you wear a bra and panties. Sounds like she likes you in bra, panties, girl clothes. Yes you won the lottery.

Yes she's going to lend out the clothes to me to practice actually. Don't have them yet, probably gonna pick them up tomorrow! Reason she made me wear the bra and panties was to give me a feminine shape as well as making me feel more like a girl.

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And how were her reactions? Did she asked you to repeat? Did she flirt or you were acting as a couple?

Like I said we pretended to be girlfriends, chatting over girl stuff, not really as a couple.

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A word of caution.... For the day of the event, I would find an alternative to water balloons as they tend to pop rather easily!

Not sure what we could use as alternative. She might have had some wigs laying around at home but I'm pretty sure no breast forms. Water balloons do feel really nice though,, and it's easy to fill the bra with them (D cup)

[5150 Girl]

Yea, they do move right, and feel good. However, there are a lot of horror stories about water balloons bursting at the worst possible moment. You can use a nylon stocking with bird seed, rice or some such (good for weight and movement) Or, polly fill (pillow stuffing) works well in a stocking. You can also cut a hunk of foam rubber to shape. You can get that at a craft store or out of an old sofa cushion.
You also mentioned this isn't your first rodeo... Do you have forms already? Bring them out! Besides, it sounds like you might like to have a set anyway. It may be time to invest.
A bit of advice on that, some web sites that sell post-mastectomy forms sell one at a time. Make sure you're getting a pair!

[julia marie]

Absolutely go for it.

[Lacey New]

This is a fascinating thread. Jessica, I think we are all anxious to see how this whole friendship plays out. I think you have a great opportunity to really enjoy yourself and her company. Lucky you! Please keep us posted. What would you think if you showed up with you own bra and panties and you told her that you enjoyed the "play" but you felt badly using her underthings so you decided to get some for yourself. Perhaps you could buy some things from a place like Walmart but you would like her help in shopping for some nicer things like from Vickie's

[deebra]

If you are using water balloons for breasts you can also use sandwich baggies. Fill with water, be sure to measure the amount so #2 will be the same. After filling the first and tieing it off tightly with string then put it in a second bag and tie that off. Cut off the excessive baggie from the tied end, this can act very nicely under a bra as a nipple. Before forms I used these a lot and they never broke. Under a thin cup bra the tied off nipple looks like the real thing.

[Krisi]

A word of caution.... For the day of the event, I would find an alternative to water balloons as they tend to pop rather easily!

When most people think of water balloons for breast forms, they buy a bag of balloons at Walmart, fill two up to the size they wand and tie them off. Yes, they will pop at any minute.

The trick is to find some very large balloons at a specialty shop or on line. You want balloons that are about eight inches across when not inflated. Get four, put one inside another so they are doubled. Now, fill them with water to the size you want but not to the point where the balloons start to stretch. Tie them off or use rubber bands. Since there's no tension on the balloon, it's highly unlikely that they will break.

These will conform to your chest and move naturally when your body moves.

[Sarasometimes]

Jessica, can't you use the form from when you were a man's housewife a while back? What was the plan 2 weeks with your hair (wig) in curler too?

[jack-ie]

Jessica, Here's a cheap and safer substitute for the water balloons. Fill the toe of a pair of nylons with a measured amount of birdseed, twist once and fold back over to insure no leakage, and tie a tight single knot. Clip off the excess of the stocking and the knot will show as a nipple through thinner bras. By measuring the amount of seed, you'll know what it takes to make them larger/smaller. The weight is realistic too.

[Connie.Marie]

Jessica,
I'd say NO to foam forms,
NO to birdseed in pantyhose, water balloons just feel more realistic when wearing them.
HECK NO to the baggies, I see leaks galore happening.

Yes to the bigger balloons so there is less stress & they don't break.
I never had a problem back when I used them.

Hope that helps. Hugs, Connie

[jessica_brink]

Ok ladies, the real deal is happening upcoming Tuesday! As I said earlier I got to take the clothes home to get more comfortable. Here's the two dresses, I still need to choose which one I'll wear eventually. Thanks again for all the advice. Getting support from this communty means the world to me xxx
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[ClosetED]

If you have the shape, the one on the right looks great! If you do have any hip pads / chest assistance, the curves will be fantastic. It looks like it stretches to accommodate, so you could. Do you plan on giving her a lipsticked kiss?
Hugs, Ellen

[AllieSF]

For this first time out with your friend, I recommend the flared dress on the left. If the objective is to dress sexy, then the form fitting dress on the right. Good luck, enjoy yourself and please do give us a detailed update. I do love these kind of real adventures.

[jessica_brink]

Mmm, the left one wouldmke things easier but I slightly prefer the right one

[jack-ie]

The one on the left is easier in some ways. On the other hand, the more form fitting one will force you to be more feminine in some ways. You will have no choice. Small steps and sitting with your legs together are part of wearing a form fitting dress. Whichever you decide, give yourself some serious practice. I'm betting this will not be a one time deal with this girl.

[Territx]

I agree with Jack-ie's last comments, the one on the right will be much more feminine looking and I agree that the fit/style will help you keep in character! I so look forward to hearing about how things go. Have fun and relax -- you will have a great time!!!!

[Gemmacd]

Wow, I'm so jealous of you. That really would be a dream come true for me. Go girl and enjoy yourself and come what may.
Gems xx

[Connie.Marie]

Jessica,
If it were me, I'd try them both on & see which one looked best on me, but that's just me...

Enjoy, Hugs, Connie

[jessica_brink]

I've decided to go with the tighter right one. As mentioned, it does force me to behave more feminine indeed. I prefered it anyway

[jjjjohanne]

Beware, the day of the event might be horrifying. You are going to be going out in public and every instinct that you have developed to protect your secret and every macho instinct you have will be screaming. You will want to run if people react to you. It might be good to have a couple outings with this friend before the night of the event. Ease into it.

[jessica_brink]

Next up: picking a bra. She actually lended me out several of hers. Can't really choose between them though, so I'll let you girlts vote, figuring you'd enjoy that.

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[SaraLin]

maybe it's just me, but I'd go with the black one. With a black dress, if the straps show, it'll be less of a problem. If you want to go a bit more daring, use the purple one. While the straps are still black, the bra itself has more of a wow factor.

[ClosetED]

With the form fitting / bodycon dress, it does not show off cleavage and has enough material that will cover the bra straps if fitted properly so they don't move. I am not sure how transparent the dress is. The black one would be best. The top one is strapless but not needed for this dress. I don't think you need to be horrified on the day - you are doing this at the request of a friend to show support and your care enough about her that you were willing to do ANYTHING for her, even this. It is a good enough cover story. Some may think you like it (which is truth) or that you are REALLY good friend. But it does not give away your secret unless you give away other details.
Hugs, Ellen

[Sarasometimes]

Did you throw out all your bras from when you played housewife with some guy a few year ago? You know when you were going to be his housewife for 2 weeks?

[nvlady]

She loans you two dresses to take home and try on.
She loans you half a dozen bras to take home and try on.
Somehow I feel she has a funny idea that you enjoy trying her clothes on.

[jessica_brink]

She loans you two dresses to take home and try on.
She loans you half a dozen bras to take home and try on.
Somehow I feel she has a funny idea that you enjoy trying her clothes on.

Well she did see how I lit up during the try-out

[Sometimes Steffi]

I'd pick the black one also.

It looks like you have forms on top, and a full bra would be better at avoiding a wardrobe malfunction. Some of the selections look like demi bras.

[jessica_brink]

So girls, the big day had come! Having tried on the clothes several times alone and having practiced my feminine behavior, I was ready to go out. First to my friend, who then dressed me up completely, and off we went. Yes, I was nervous, but I felt I'd come too far to quit now, and I enjoyed our dress-up last time so much. Like then, my behavior went from normal to really feminine quite quick, loving the feel of the clothes. I had the blonde wig, the tight black dress, black bra, panties, stockings, high heels, lipstick, blush, mascara and fingernails painted blue. Also I have to say I did look quite convincing and hot, even though I didn't have things like hip pads or a professional wig and my boobs were maybe too big for my body. First steps outside were probably the hardest. Luckily not that many people around here. I tried coming off as resistant to my friend ("Why am I doing this again?", "It's just for you I'm doing this" etc.) but in secret I was living out the dream. Still feeling hesitant and nervous, this then quickly went away one of the biggest thrills in my life then happened: couple of guys saw us, looked at us and just as they'd passed us one of them whistle at us! Now it was dark outside so maybe that's why they didn't notice, or maybe they were making fun of me, but either way, I was mesermized by it. I felt a thrill I'd probably never felt before, even different from when I dress up. I started smiling and giggling, and apparently to my lesbian friend I started acting even more girly, if that was even possible. Without getting too explicit, I have to admit I felt very aroused by it as well, again a different kind of arousal than what I feel when being dressed up. From that moment on I knew I was just going to enjoy the evening, not trying to worry too much. Having arrived at the club we hadn't come across any people I knew, so no awkard explanations needed so far.

Now, I'm gonna be a bit of a bitch here (guess that has lasted with me from that night) and stop here and continue with the second part later. Reason is I wanna feel this thrill of telling the story more than once, not waste in one post if you catch my drift. Anyhow, please comment or ask questions on this part if you like, and as always, thanks for the endless support, if it wasn't for you girls this wouldn't have happened, and now I know I would've seriously missed out! xxx

[Becky Blue]

You go girl!!! looking forward to reading the next part!!

[Dana44]

Jessica, sounds like you had a great time.

[GinaSkirt]

I am very happy you got to have this experience. It sounds like you had a great time and just want to relive it over and over again in your memory. Nothing wrong with that. Can't wait to see the rest of your story. Congrats Jessica.

[Territx]

Sounds like a great start to the evening! I am looking forward to "the rest of the story" as a prominent news man used to say.

[Sometimes Steffi]

As you said, "If it wasn't for you girls this wouldn't have happened, and now I know I would've seriously missed out!"

So wonderful. I wish I could have experience this when I was your age.

I think this is the beginning of a beautiful friendship. (Casablanca, Rick Blane to Louis)

[Sarasometimes]

How does this compare to the time you were a housewife to some guy for 2 days. You must remember when you posted about this a while back? Did you ever do the 2 week session he also wanted? Just curious?

[Jenn A116]

Loving the first part...eagerly awaiting the rest of the story.

[NylonMan]

Waiting with baited breath. I hope you have pictures coming as well.

[rian]

I think it is worth a while to dare and do it ...if you do not i think you will regret it all your life ..go for it and please tells us about what happens next ...we crossdressers is our dream to go as a girl

[jessica_brink]

Ok girls, as promised, here's the second part: having arrived at the LGBT bar I was feeling nervous again but then we ordered some drinks with the bartender saying 'hi ladies', clearly having seen this type of thing before. I immediately felt flattered. Then we bumped into some lesbians my friend knew from the bar (she had actually gone to the bar before this evening but after her proposition to me). They seemed to really enjoy seeing a crossdresser but still treated me as one of their own. I told them this was my first time and it was for fun and to support my friend. We had some drinks and started dancing, at this moment I was a bit tipsy and it just felt right to be dressed like this. I was dancing like a real girl, forgetting what my friend had taught me, it all came natural. The girls also started grabbing my (pretty big) boobs (they were lesbian after all), but it was all in good fun and I definitely didn't mind. Didn't return the favor thought 'cause it didn't feel right.
At one point me and one of the girls actually started looking at the guys there, saying things like "I could defintiely make him happy" and giggling about it. It was new to both of us, both pretending to fancy men. I also went to the women's bathroom a couple of times with some of them to fix our make-up. No weird looks here either. I danced with some (gay) men as well. Finally my friend and I went home. In the end nothing had happened between any of us but I wasn't counting on it anyway. It was only then that I realized that the other girls never found out my real name, they'd only gotten to know me as Jessica.

As for the future, I'd really enjoy to go back there as a girl. My friend also really enjoyed going there and having me as company. I'm sure we'll figure something out. Not sure if I'd propose to go other places as a girl though. I think it would then really start to get suspicious (she already saw how much I actually enjoyed it. I should have tried to keep it on the downside at times, but it's so hard no to when you're wearing girls' clothes).

Also, I've gotten a lot more respect for the LGBT community. No insults, only positive things to say, accepting,... I guess it's because these people are used to feeling different that they're so supportive of everyone being what they wanna be. I'm mean I'm not turning gay (although I definitely enjoyed checking out boys) but I really admire these people.

And finally, as always, many thanks to all of you ladies! Without your advice and support, I'd never gotten through with this and I'd have had so much regret for not having been at this night, which was one of the best of my life and one I'll never forget. I hoped you all enjoyed my story, which btw is not fictional. I love you girls xxx

Jessica

[Lacy PJs]

Just be sure of YOUR MOTIVATION before you commit. Helping a friend out or even learning more about the LGBT community is one thing but if you are doing it for some other reason, that may well bite you big time down the road...

Lacy PJs

[Aunt Kelly]

Thanks for sharing, Jessica. Glad you had a good time. It sounds like it went about how I figured it would , which is to say fun and uneventful.
So... Now what? LOL

[jack-ie]

Sounds like you had a great time being one of the girls. This girl approached you, loaned you clothes, and mentored you. Allow her the pleasure of knowing how much you enjoyed the entire experience.

[Becky Blue]

Sounds like you had an amazing time Jessica, your very lucky to have that friend. One question for you.. Why not tell your friend you like to dress? It may open up so many great opportunities for you. i would guess that your friend probably knows you CD anyway given how much fun you had. What would be the downside of telling her you like CDing?

[Leslie Mary S]

As I was reading the log I was a little apprehensive for you.
Glad to hear you had a good time.
Personally I remember that first time out at a LGBT club. we drove about 110 miles to get to it. All during the the drive to and from there I sat all decked out. It was a Karaoke bar and I did 3 songs, Patsy Cline (Crazy), Dolly Parton (Two Doors Down), and Helen Reddy's (I am woman).
In my long flowing Ruby Red Dress, 5" red Heels, and blonde wig. (Remember I am a natural six footer) Had to duck under some low lights. Bit over dressed but tthen most were dressed high for the Madi Gra theme night.

[deebra]

Jess, I agree with Becky's #144 thread, why not tell her you like to dress. The two of you go to the club again and you might meet others and where it might lead. It's a no brainer, you are a CD and have someone to go with and meet others. What an opportunity. Go, Go, Go

[Lynn Sealy]

You're young. If you want to do it, do it. If you decide not to, that's fine too. Before making any decision, ask yourself, "In ten or twenty years, how would I feel about my decision?"

Lynn
On Facebook as LynnSealyTX

[NylonMan]

Sounds like you had an amazing time. Did you happen to take any pictures? Would love to see your dress.

[Jenn A116]

Sounds like a great evening. Hope you get to repeat it.

[Lynn Sealy]

Reads like you had a good time.

[jessica_brink]

Sounds like you had an amazing time. Did you happen to take any pictures? Would love to see your dress.

We didn't take pics because it was in secret and I didn't want anyone to find out. I myself was too busy enjoying it anyway. However I posted a pic of the dress earlier. I'll post it here again. It's the one on the left, cause it forces me to move more feminine in it.

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[Devi SM]

OMG! what dreamed opportunity you have.
What risk we're talking about? it's a LGBT meeting.
Whoever attend is part of the family. What are the chances that going there someone read you? As everybody as said, DO IT!
Before this O had another signature: I don't want to get to the day when my only regrets were for the things I didn't do...

[Sarasometimes]

This whole thread of yours is contrary to other posts you have made in the past. Like the 2 weeks as a housewife with curlers in your hair for a guy you hardly knew. You posted that you even tried it for 2 days. Now you have this opportunity and no mention of this past tale...puzzling