Who gets a thrill out of outing themselves with sales assistants?

[caitlyn louisa]

Anytime I am challenged or teased by girl sales assistants, I almost squirm with pleasure. Sometimes they will joke about items of clothing, particularly if they are obviously in my size. Does anyone else enjoy this ? Any good stories ?

[Sallee]

I certainly enjoy it. No problem letting an SA know an item is for me. I'll do the same at makeup counters

[looking_good]

Guilty! Don't understand it, but sure is true.

[Stacy Darling]

Well that is an interesting question for me!
I'm 50/50 mostly, and most are usually put on the back foot when they deal with me!

But there may be a thrill for me! That smirk on my face as we do the business?
I Don't get wet though!

Stacy!

[Elizabeth G]

I wouldn't say I get a thrill but I do enjoy it and certainly don't try to hide it.

[NicoleScott]

I've done that several times. Thinking about my reply, it occurred to me that it was always with SA's at wig shops. Yes, it's somewhat of a thrill.
My story: in boy mode I went to a mall wig shop. I outed myself to the SA when she asked who the wig was for. I said I had some photos if she wanted to see, and to see what style of wig I liked, and she was very interested. I bought a wig and asked if I could come back en femme just before closing, and she said yes and added that her sister (the manager) would be there, too. I did, wearing the new wig, and in my preferred full OTT femme mode. It was fun and thrilling. They were complimentary, which added to the thrill.

[docrobbysherry]

For me, u could have titled your thread, "Who enjoys drama, hassles, embarrassment, and likes to waste time when out shopping?"

When I'm out shopping for Sherry, I don't like distractions or have time to waste, Caitlyn. But, I know a few T's that enjoy pushing folk's buttons. I say, if u enjoy it, go for it!:thumbsup:

[DIANEF]

I've only ever shopped in drab, so far....but I do enjoy the look an an SAs face when I take a dress to the cash point (though in fairness the majority are totally un-bothered.)

[sara66]

A cheap thrill. Just got back from shopping, did that exact thing.
Sara

[jack-ie]

I'm guilty too. On the plus side, in some shops, I'm hesitant to use the dressing rooms, outing myself to the SA sometimes sparks an invitation to use them. It seems to me that older ladies are more accepting, more likely to be helpful and/or offer an opportunity to try something on.

[Sarah Doepner]

I have tended to only share that information when I have to like at a wig shop or makeup counter. Most of my shopping for clothing is done at Thrift stores (probably why I have more clothes than I can get around to wearing), and they don't have the staff to offer assistance and usually don't care what you buy. If they make a comment about a skirt I'm buying I will let them know I have the legs for it, but I believe they think it's just a joke.

It makes me wonder if I should do this a little more, if for no other reason to expand the general awareness of Transgender folk in as positive way as possible. We can be ambassadors with a sense of humor, style, playfulness and honesty. I can't think of a better combination of characteristics to share with others.

[Leslie Langford]

I wouldn't call it a "thrill" as such anymore...I've gotten to be far too comfortable in my skin these days in accepting my transgenderism to be worrying about what an SA or a cashier might think when I am buying female clothing for myself - whether I'm en femme or in drab.

I shop as I please, browse the racks shoulder-to-shoulder alongside the GG's...they don't bother me and I don't bother them. If an SA were to approach me to ask if she can help me find something, I either accept or decline the offer as the occasion warrants it. I don't go out of my way to say that the items are for me when in drab, but I usually don't deny it either if asked directly.

I see no upside in putting SA's or cashiers into a potentially awkward position just to solicit a reaction from them and in order to get my "jollies". On the other hand, if they open the door to that particular discussion, I would have no problem walking through it to see where it takes me.

Remember, folks, this is 2017, and not 1955. Not only is it totally O.K. to be transgender these days, it is almost fashionable and the "in" thing considering the way that the media and on-line world have become fascinated with our community in recent years. It seems as if they are constantly coming up with stories about us and our respective journeys towards self-actualization, most of which are supportive and sympathetic towards us.

[suzanne]

Not me. When I shop, i assume I'm not fooling anyone, and I don't try to. Most often, I'm in a skirt, and if there's something I like, I'll ask for a fitting room. No ambiguities. Most places I go, they already know me because I'm a size 20 and there's not all that many places I can shop. It's no different if I'm drab.

Leslie, your a girl after my own heart. I like your comment that it's not 1955. I'm guessing it hasn't been for quite a while.

[Robertacd]

I do enjoy it, and even seak out younger female cashiers just to see their faces and hope for a comment. It's not like I say stuff like "You know that bra is for me, right?", just to make sure they know. But I am usually ready with a nice "thank you" reply to any "You are going to look cute in your new bra ;) " type comment.


But in reality, 9.999999 times out of 10 nothing is said.

[Tracii G]

I may have been excited the first few times it happened but now its just a friendly chat.

[BrendaPDX]

I try not to deny it but even still I am only about 50% I find I do better just coming out when asking for what I can't find. Generally it is well accepted. I have always been to nervous to enjoy it, at least so far. It would be so fun to relax and enjoy it and chat; someday...

[Jenna Stunned]

Interesting, I would NEVER have guessed people got a kick out of being outed by a cashier? Im in the opposite end of this ship for sure. Just sell me my clothing and let me be on my way, None of your business who they are for or why I am buying them. Would be the same thing If I were buying guys clothing as well. I hate talking with cashiers about what im buying. Nor do I want to sign up for rewards cards, OR your credit card, Or give my email....... lol. Just sell me my items and I can be on my way. Thank you. Maybe I hate dealing with people that I don't know a tad?

[Ressie]

I can see where the OP is coming from but it's not something I set out to do when shopping. However, I see it as a way to share this with someone without the repercussions that we would get from telling people we know. And there is a cathartic release from sharing with someone. So it can evoke a thrill similar to actually dressing in public.

I only share it when the SA asks. If I want to try something on I usually just take the items to the dressing room without too much notice. But if the SA knows I'm trying on female garb it's not a big deal in most cases.

[Stephanie Nicole]

I don't have a problem with the sales girls anymore, usually I go to the same stores to purchase my clothes and in the past I would just buy the clothes and take them home to try on and if I didn't like them I would bring them back. Lately I have been actually trying them on in the store fitting rooms ( I go in dressed as a male, try on the clothes get redressed in my male clothes and then go to the registers with my purchases) recently I started going to the stores early in the morning on weekdays ( I work overnight shift so I stop on the way home) when the stores are virtually empty and try on a few things and have gotten comfortable enough that I leave the fitting room and ask the salesgirl how a dress or blouse or something looks on me and have never gotten a bad answer or ridiculed. I like to get their opinions because usually they are better judges than I am of what looks good and it an item fits the way it is designed to fit. I have found out that a lot of the stores are doing poorly due to the economy and just want the sale so they don't really care who is trying on the clothes. I did it this way for a few months. and then last week I finally go the courage to actually get dressed and go shopping during the day when the store was packed with customers. I again asked for a fitting room and tried on a few things (this time I didn't ask their opinions only because the store had other customers and they were busy helping them too.) I have actually become pretty good friends with a couple of the sales girls to the point I am contemplating asking one of them (whom I am really attracted to) if she would like to out to dinner with me one night.
I just recently posted in another thread about this experience and a wonderful time I had meeting the shop owner of a shoe store that I like to visit.

[Nikki A.]

I don't do it for a thrill. I do let them know that it's for me so that they may do their job and assist me in my purchases.

[IleneD]

What I enjoy most in a good SA encounter is when they open their arms to you completely. Throw open the doors.
I don't pass, so it's obvious to the SA's who and what they have on their hands. Never had a bad or snarky/snotty experience. But what absolutely tickles me is when they literally invite me into the fitting room to try on something. The best was a lingerie/bra store where the SA (Jen was her name) took me by the hand and led me to the fitting rooms. Asked me if I wanted to try it on. I felt honored... about the only way to explain it. And of course I did.

[Ashley090]

I don't have any experience while in girl mode and while out, I avoid ppl and interaction with ppl at all cost, like they are plague. But I did shop for my girl's stuff in guy mode and I never find any SA asking me about what I am buying or having doubts and its their job not to care. Only once I have negative experience with male SA in shopping mall. I had bunch of things like eyeshadows and fake lashes and foundation 'hidden' in my groceries and he give me weird look with each item he grabed but did not say stuff. But I did went ovet it, I did not give poop about it but it definetly lower my confidence a little bit.
Idea of shopping in girl mode is thrilling and scary at same time for me. Out myself to SA frightens me. Um, what I am saying, out myself in general frightens me !!

[Teresa]

Caitlyn,
You don't say if you're shopping in drab or dressed.

I enjoy the interaction with SAs , even though I shop in drab at the moment I often show a picture or two so they understand what I look like ,often when I've bought something they insist I take them some pictures to show them the outfit. This doesn't apply just to young ones, I have a lovely elderly lady in a charity shop who really enjoys my visits . The problem is they come and go, my friends in a bridal shop have closed down and gone and the costume shop has downsized and some SAs have moved on .

[Lacey New]

I don't know that I have been thrilled to tell the SA but I was thrilled by the shopping experience. Being treated well and being able to try on a dress ad to buy something that fit. I have also purchased lots and lots of lingerie where the conversation with the SA has been quite pleasant and I am sure she very much suspected I was buying for myself but it was never directly asked or stated. However, i would not have denied that I was shopping for myself.

[alwayshave]

I don't exactly get a thrill. Maybe some satisfaction in being accepting of myself. I tend to buy dresses online so no issues there. Wigs and makeup I go into the store. All the SAs have been pretty cool.

[Barbara Black]

I guess I find it a little exciting, but mostly I am relieved that they don't jump across the aisle at me, cringe in horror, or something like that, that they can accept it or are very willing to accept it. But I haven't had an actual conversation about it with anyone other than my wife. Just a self-outing with or without reactions.

[Gillian Gigs]

I shop as I please, browse the racks shoulder-to-shoulder alongside the GG's...they don't bother me and I don't bother them. If an SA were to approach me to ask if she can help me find something, I either accept or decline the offer as the occasion warrants it. I don't go out of my way to say that the items are for me when in drab, but I usually don't deny it either if asked directly.

I see no upside in putting SA's or cashiers into a potentially awkward position just to solicit a reaction from them and in order to get my "jollies". On the other hand, if they open the door to that particular discussion, I would have no problem walking through it to see where it takes me.

I'm with Leslie on this one. I don't like being put into awkward positions, so I attempt to not do it to others. I have told SA's that an item was for me and never had a problem with it. Stores are in the business of selling products, if they sell their products, they stay open and keep SA's employed. Older individuals understand this better than the current generation! Older individuals are more helpful also.

[Dana44]

Never got teased by a sale assistants. They do smile at me though and I was en fem driving with purple fingernails very nice color. Nobody said anything but at Las vegas, a GG said wow nice color and took my hands and looked at them. She said really nice. LOL I was in conversation with another when that happened.

[Karen RHT]

Definitely don't get a "thrill" out of it, and don't have a problem saying "it's for me" when that's appropriate. Don't mind good natured banter with any SA no matter what I'm buying, or how I'm dressed.


Karen

[Becky Blue]

I definitely do, I particularly enjoy it when I am shopping and neither hiding or advertising that I am buying it for myself and the SA decides its for me and makes a clever comment that shows that they know its for me. We get this kind of unspoken bond... almost as if we are both waiting for the other to blurt something out.

[Karen's Secret]

Because crossdressing is my life long secret I do get a thrill out of a SA knowing I'm a crossdresser. The thrill for me is in the acceptance, which I do not find anywhere else. My wife has always known, but her acceptance is limited to the house and generally not in her presence. Having an SA know and accept is as close as I have ever been to being completely free to be me.

[Teresa]

Karen,
That's the problem ," Being free to be you !" To me these are just the stepping stones on that road and it happens despite the acceptance level of our wife/partner .

[Kelsey dresses]

I am just to old to worry about it any more. Girl at goodwill asked if the bras and box of nylons were for me and said of course.

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When I buy bras or panties at walmart I do just go through the self check out stands the girl at the front can see all the items on the screen at her counter but no big deal.

[bunnylover72]

I think it would be fun to go shopping dressed. Someday I will pull up my big girl panties and get it done. 'till then I will keep it DL going out in the evenings. Sewing my wardrobe ( or altering what I buy) If the SA has helpful and great to deal with, They would have a loyal customer.

Brenda

[Jodi]

I do most all of my shopping in drab. I always tell the SA the clothes are for me. There is no thrill in telling an SA. It is a point of being honest and forthright. This breaks the ice and allows the SA to do her job.

jodi

[deebra]

They figure it out real quick that I am shopping for me and treat me with the same respect they treat a GG, some even really warm up to me and seem to like that I am buying "ladies" for me.

[StephanieM]

I wouldn't necessarily call it a thrill, but it is kind of liberating to be truthful if asked about my purchases. Which rarely ever happens, most cashiers don't seem to notice what you're buying anyway.

[lingerieLiz]

I think the thrill is in the ability to be accepted. I've shopped for women's clothes by my self since for many years. Lots of interesting adventures. I was wearing a white top one day while looking at bras. Bent over I'm sure the woman could see my bra. She asked, do you always wear a bra. I said yes and looked at her. She backed off and said cool. Had a SA ask who I was buying for and I said me. She didn't believe me. Funny how frustrating it is after you tell them and they still con't believe you.

[JenniferR771]

Sure--if I am feeling confident--I might tell the clerk at a drugstore--or more likely at a thrift store.
These days I shop mostly at the same thrift store. All the girls know me. Sometimes they help with a zipper or give me an opinion as to what looks best. Sometimes they point out something new or special that they think I might like. One of the girls is my size. I offered to loan her my red leather dress.

[deebra]

I'm very proud of all those above that go out and aren't afraid or embarrassed and are confident about being a CD. That's just getting more people O.K. with us, just our taste in clothing and we prefer to being femine more than being masculine. The public needs to know what's between your legs does not override what your brain tells you who you want to be.

[TracyT]

I've gotten so used to shopping both en femme and in drab that I don't think about it, and I almost always have very positive and helpful reactions. The other day I had a negative experience for the first time I can remember -- I was in the Athleta shop near my office in the middle of the day and saw a dress i wanted to try on and grabbed it and asked the SA, who was a woman close to my age (i.e., in her 40s), "Can I try this on?"
I expected "Sure!" What I got was "If you really think you need to," with an unfriendly look.
I was so surprised I got flustered. I did try the dress on, briefly, then hung it up and walked out, never to return.

[Alice Torn]

I have done it with a few cashiers, and restaurant drive up girls. I find it relieving.

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Ilene said it for me, too.

[NicoleScott]

Many here have admitted to outing themselves to SA's. Some get a thrill and some don't. The SA's aren't mind-readers, the thrill-or-not is an internal personal response, so what difference does it make? Maybe just another way to pour cold water on those who get a thrill from CDing activities?

[Crystal 42]

Shopping was always a stressful experience for me and just helped to reinforce my bad compartmentalizing habits. I remember exactly what I used to say "Excuse me but my girlfriend would really like a pair of shoes you have in the window... in size 9 please". Typically a lot of UK shoe shops never had ladies size 9's which potentially led to further embarrassment and more lies. "Oh yes my GF is really tall, she's Swedish". The things I used to do to convince myself. :rofl:

You know, it's funny looking back on that now since I eventually learnt most shop assistants really don't care and simply want your money. Of course I have been in lingerie shops and was honest with the ladies serving me which definitely led to better results, namely getting things that looked good and fitted well. I generally prefer to shop online but since I accepted myself I think I would be okay with dealing with SA's now but there's certainly no cheap thrill involved.

[SharonDenise]

I just bought a dress this evening from Carson's. I wasn't sure which size would fit so I had two sizes in hand as I waited for my turn to see the S.A. I was in male drab and was not about to go into the dressing rooms without their okay. It was fortunately, very slow with hardly any customers around. She didn't bat an eyelash and said okay. I did buy the dress in my size from the S.A. as just a normal sales transaction. One of my very first posts on this forum was how I had to have a gown altered with me wearing it at Nordstrom's. My heart rate still raises every time I have to involve letting a S.A. know that the item is for me. I hope to get to a point where it shouldn't make a difference.

[faltenrock]

There is a big advantage buying and shopping exclusively as a woman. I never get mistaken or asked for whom the clothes might be, it's obvious that everything is for me. SA sometimes ask me if I need help, sometimes they give nice comments when I try on some dresses, skirts or blouses or even shoes. I think, when shopping en femme, there is not much of confusion on their side.
They might see you as a CD, TS or even as a woman, depending on how you pass.

[CD Tammy]

I was at a shoe store, not finding but a few choices in size 12, when an attractive bubbly salesgirl slipped up beside me with two shoeboxes in hand. She encouraged me to try them on. Two pair of pumps, One with kitten heels, and one with 3” heels. I wanted to say they weren’t for me but I quickly looked around. No one else in the store. I tried on both pair, even taking a few steps. I bought both pair.

Yes, it was exciting to be outed by a salesgirl.

[JeanTG]

I shopped yesterday at a store where the manager knows me. So far I've only shopped in drab, or semi-dressed, but I am well accepted. I had called ahead to ask about the availability of a couple of items I saw on their website. They had them in stock so I dropped in. She said "I picked out another dress that I thought would look really good on you". I asked about a few other items including a convertible bra that I can wear with a dress where the straps tend to stray out from under the straps of the dress. She then led me into the change room and was in the change room with me while I was only in panties, bringing me stuff.

All in all, another great session. I have two stores like this that I regularly use. Their positive upbeat attitude earns my repeat business! I got the items I had her set aside for me; good thing I tried them, I had to go up a size on a sleep camisole that I had picked out. And yes I bought the extra dress she had picked out for me.

I'm hoping to screw together enough courage to go in fully dressed next time.

[Sabrina133]

Since am full time it doesn't happen anymore but when i started, yes. I remember shopping in seattle once, i was in boy mode and the SA asked me who i was buying for. I told her it was for me. She actually got very excited. She asked me if i was planning on transitioning. At the time i told her no...little did i know. :-)

[debbienraleigh]

I can't really say I have ever 'gotten a thrill' from outing myself to SAs, but I have when talking with a gg about why I dress as Debbie and the fact that I absolutely love and crave anything that is feminine except being physical with a male. When afforded the opportunity to discuss why I crossdress and have such a strong desire to emulate females, I often include a line something like this - "the more feminine the more I love it." In contemplating why I get so excited when I do that, I sincerely believe it is my underlying desire/need to have the acceptance of a gg. The best I have felt in being accepted by a gg is when my dentist (female) accepted me completely as Debbie and helped me understand or at least consider that if I have the 'spirit' of a female I shouldn't be ashamed to express that spirit by dressing as a female and achieving as much of a female personna as possible. She and her assistant about sent me over the top when talking about me while I was in the chair saying 'she' has so-and-so going on with tooth #x, and we need to keep an eye on 'her' tooth #x. Not to mention the many times she calls me Debbie when I'm in her office. So, for me the thrill comes when I can detect that there is the slightest possibility that the gg I'm interacting with shows any sign of completely accepting me as a female.