Met a GG

[Stephanie Nicole]

Yesterday while I was perusing the racks at one of my favorite stores, I finally got up the courage to ask the SA out to dinner. She is close to my age ( mid 40s) and knows all about Stephanie as she has seen me come in and shop both as her and in male mode and we have talked numerous times about different clothes and how they look and feel. She has also given me advice on what looks good on me and where I can get different types of clothes, not just in her store but in other stores on the mall where she works. SHE SAID YES, we are going out next weekend for dinner and a movie. While she said she has no problem going out with me dressed, would it be too much for a first date? Should I go in male mode or should I just go for it and buy a new dress and shoes and go as Stephanie?

[Teresa]

Stephanie,
Only one answer go ask her, start off on the right foot and don't second guess her. It's good to hear another member finding an accepting GG who might be prepared to make a more committed decision on a CDer.

[deebra]

Yes, go as a well dressed male and treat her as a gentleman would a lady. Give the CDing thing a rest. After a few dates then bring it up. If you bring it up or dress on the first or second date she is going to read it as you want her because she is accepting of you as a CD and you wanting her is not a first priority. Talk about it ONLY if she brings it up, otherwise you will kill your chances with her.

[Teresa]

Deebra,
The SA knows about Stephanie's dressing even to the point of seeing her try things on , so she only has to ask about suitable dress mode for the first date.

[alwayshave]

I would go in male mode. I'd let the more traditional relationship roles develop before dressing. The good news is she said yes knowing that you CD.

[Sara Jessica]

^^^ Best advice possible.

[Aunt Kelly]

It is an interesting dilemma, Stephanie, but since she does know all about you, I am inclined offer the same advice that Teresa has given. Ask her if she has a preference. On the other hand, it seems like there's some romantic interest on your part, so the better bet might be to go on that first date in boy mode. That will remove the some possibility of anxiety and awkwardness. Your CDing is going to come up, so you can address it then. When it does, make sure to communicate how pleased you are that she's there with you, when a lot of women would not be so inclined.
Do keep us informed.

Hugs,


Kelly

[CarlaWestin]

Hi Teresa, I'm sort of in the camp of presenting as one's true self on the first social encounter. This is the time to gauge each other as far as likes and dislikes and the levels of acceptance or not. And it's a personality showcase. But, if Stephanie's normal is totally female and male is just a facilitating persona then maybe a nice new dress is in order. Being on the outside of the situation makes it hard to judge. Stephanie, I wish you the best.

[Stephanie Nicole]

Thank you for the advice and I look forward to hearing other opinions also, as this is a scary situation for me. So people understand, I started dressing on and off as a teenager ( it started as a form of arousal but then became something more, I found I enjoyed the look and feel of the clothes). I dressed privately for a number of years after that and then in my mid 20s I met my ex-wife. I kept my dressing secret to the point I all but stopped completely except on the extremely rare occasion that she would be away for a few days. I didn't even keep my clothes in the house, they were in a suitcase ( I owned 1 dress, a couple pairs of panties and a nightgown) in the back of a storage garage where I kept a classic car I am restoring.) needless to say the marriage didn't work out, for numerous reasons including I suspect that she found my suitcase, as she dropped a few subtle hints about it every once in a while. So we ended up divorcing last December. It took me a little time but in the last 2 months or so I have been buying stuff here and there for Stephanie and that is how I met Chris. I was at the store looking at a blouse that I really liked and was trying to decide on a skirt or jeans to go with it and without me having to say anything she asked if I wanted a room to try them on to see what I liked ( I was dressed in male mode). I tried them on and showed her and we became friends after that to the point that I miss when it when I don't see or talk to her on my normal weekend shopping trip ( I like to go and check out the sales to see if I can find anything I like). I haven't felt like this about another person in a long time and I don't want to screw things up as I really do like this woman a lot, and the last thing I want to do is embarrass/ hurt her.

[Alberta_Pat]

Stephanie,

I am somewhat of the mind that you may well wish to take this Lady out as your male counterpart, but I must ask who it was that asked her out?

Was it Stephanie? or Stephanie's male counterpart?

The answer to this would be the deciding factor to me. The one she agreed to the date with is the one she wishes to see.

[Laura912]

Along the lines of Pat's reasoning, who will have the major role in the relationship with Chris if things develope between you? Perhaps the answer to that will determine your presentation. The blessing is that there is no need to have "the talk" in the future.

[Jamie Lynn]

I also think you should go dressed as your male self. You met her presenting male and you asked her presenting male. She knows you like to dress as female already, so let her decide from this date and your conversations as to how much female dressing she will accept. Make it HER decision! I hope you have a wonderful date!!

[Gillian Gigs]

Tough question, you need to ask her what she thinks. Personally, I would go in male mode,and see how things go first off.

[phili]

I'm sure she means for you to go out dressed- as that is the point- she has consistently been open and making it normal. If you retreat or delay, then when will it be ok to go out together? She is saying- let's do it. She is not promising to have a long term relationship, but to take an explorative step and see what happens- see how it is, see how she feels out with you as both a CD an as a person, and knows those two things aren't separate. The only issue is whether you are a closet CD or not. This is your chance to not make it a big deal, and to understand what all this means to you so that you can just be normal and live life crossdressing in a normal way. No cringing, own it. THIS IS WHAT WE ALL WANT- right? ;0)

[Taylor186]

I agree with Jamie, if you asked her out in male mode then make it to the first date, at least, in male mode.

[Teresa]

Stephanie,
It looks like you've answered your own question, you have doubts then go as the man she met in the store, You could ask her on the date how she would have felt about you being dressed but then she hasn't seen the whole Stephanie . That's where pictures would come in handy , that might have been the answer in the store when you first asked her out.

I'm not sure if I agree with Pat's comment , if it were me the request for the date would have come from the whole person. I must admit I became attracted to a SA in a shoe store, she was so helpful and came over as a really nice caring person, we had a few good laughs while I was buying shoes. I nearly returned with some flowers intending to ask if I could take her out for a coffee but the thought of becoming tangled up in a possible relationship while married made me think twice , that was naturally assuming she was available anyway .

[larry]

Wow How exciting. As I read thru the replies it is apparent that this really is a concern. Never thought about it that way.
Just thinking about how lucky makes me happy for you. (really also wish it was me)hehe.
My thought is to ask her and make it as comfortable and manly as any other date.

[Jenn A116]

I'm on the side of going in guy mode for the first date. Spend the date getting to know more about each other. Outside interests, etc. Even though she is aware of both sides, I suspect she wants to know the guy side a bit more.

[Jean 103]

Where do u want this to go? R u looking for a girlfriend or best friend? These r questions u need to answer for your self. As far as how to dress, how comfortable r u at being dressed in public? I need to be able to relax and be your self. Do not obsess on dressing, shopping or girl stuff. Be your self I know I already said this but it is important. This is a date, get to know her. And most importantly have fun.

[Dana44]

I would definitely go as a male on your first date. The cross dressing will come up during conversation and I would then ask here if we could go to dinner and movie in the future as your female self with her. .

[Ariana225]

I agree with most. Going male would be the best bet for a first date. She has been with you dressed up in a clothing store. She hasn't been on a dinner date with you dressed up. I would go male and get to know her and learn her boundaries and what works for her.

[Nikki A.]

Definitely go male. Show her that you're interested in her, not because she'll let you dress. If things work out then they'll be times to share that experience too.

[Micki_Finn]

Quick question, if his has been addressed forgive me, but does she know it's a DATE date or is she possibly under the impression that this is more a "girl's" outing?

[RADER]

I agree with the others; Go in Male Mode. Yes she knows about your CDing, but you asked her out on a date.
A date usually means boy/girl, so try it one time, you can always ask her out on a second date in Fem Mode.
Good Luck.
Rader

[Teresa]

Micki,
I guess you could call a first date a social outing, others may follow but it could end there . A first date is more to see if you could become friends. maybe she is hoping for a girl's night out, perhaps Stephanie might have considered that .

[Nikkilovesdresses]

Your post gives the impression that you regard the SA as a potential partner. She may or may not view the date the same way.

I'd advise you to go dressed, because if you've found a woman who is totally comfortable with a potential partner crossdressing, you've found a gem.

Good luck and please do let us know how the date goes.

[Stephanie Nicole]

Ok so the general consensus is to go on the date (and yes it is a date, dinner at a nice restaurant and a movie afterwards, that is what I asked Chris to go with me to.) as myself and not Stephanie. She knows me in both forms male and female and we have talked and flirted a little each way. I have asked her about her feelings going out with a CD before I got up the courage to ask her out myself and she said she likes the whole person not just the way they dress or look. I have a feeling that Stephanie might be ok but I want this to be a serious evening because I am extremely attracted to her both looks and personality wise. She is a kind caring person that seems to genuinely like people and she has a great body too, and like her I am attracted to her as a whole not just because she is good looking. I am hoping that this date could turn into a serious relationship but I don't want to scare her away.

[Aunt Kelly]

Respectfully, I disagree. Gender issues are no different than other personal details. Certain ones are not appropriate to share on a first date. Stephanie isn't hiding anything and if things work out, there will soon be a time for this new friend to meet "Stephanie". Now, if Stephanie were full time, or headed in that direction, I'd have a very different answer..

[Stephanie Nicole]

Nikki yes I do hope for her to become a partner and I hope she feels the same way about me, like I said we are both in our mid 40s and are both coming out of long term relationships due to divorce. I think she needs someone to care about her as much as I need someone to care about me and I do care for her a lot, so much that it hurts.

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Quick question, if his has been addressed forgive me, but does she know it's a DATE date or is she possibly under the impression that this is more a "girl's" outing?

yes she knows it is a date date, I specifically asked her to a nice dinner and a movie

[Jenny22]

Go in male mode, and continue as such until she asks you to present as Stephanie. No matter how accepting she is, females like to be with males on dates. Don't push it on her. Let her decide when and where.

[crystaltvco]

Ok this may sound harsh, so please accept my apology in advance: Please don't do a movie. You are going to be together for 2 hours or so and not interact. Take in a concert in the park and take a basket dinner. Make every minute count. Maybe take a cooking class together? Be unique, given your current level of uniqueness(real word?? hehe)!

I would also frame your first date outfit to her like.. I have this great new suit I thought I would wear. Or would you prefer that dress you helped me pick out the other day. Play to her comfort zone.

Too naive?

[Lana Mae]

Ask her! Let her decide her comfort level! Hugs Lana Mae

[Sarah O]

I wouldn't make any assumptions on how you should be dressed. I suspect your softer side may be part of the attraction, so she may want to see you dressed. As others have pointed out I would ask.

I hope you have a great night out and please let us know how it goes!

[lingerieLiz]

I once asked a SA who had sold me a bunch of lingerie that I tried on if she would like to go to lunch. She said her boyfriend wouldn't like it. Funny part was it was a thank you not a date. On the other hand I had an SA all but ask me to take her out. She knew about me but I was only passing through the city.

I did have a date with a SA where I purchased a lot of my clothes. She was in the hospital and I took her flowers. When I walked into her hospital room she introduced me to her parents saying I bought all my clothes at the women's shop where she worked. Everything went ok and when she got out I asked her out. We ended up going out a few times. She mentioned that I had bought a sweater she had intended to buy. I offered it to her, but I got sent out of town and she became interested in someone else.

So it is hard to say which is the right mode to go in.

[jack-ie]

I think when we dress our more considerate side shows up. I would go as a male but show your most kind, loving side. Compliment her, hold the doors, chairs, etc. Make the first date about her. She already knows about Stephanie, make her want to really know Stephanie.

[Kelly DeWinter]

When Jeannie and I met, I showed pictures first. I think asking her first would be helpful. If you hit it off, there will be many more dates. Congrats too. :0

[SaraLin]

While my first impulse was to say "go in male mode", like most everyone else in here has said - I had a thought I figure I'll share...

I don't know your wardrobe, but do you have some women's clothing that could serve while in male mode (slacks, top, that sort of thing)?

That way, you could still go as a "guy", but when the topic comes up (which it almost certainly will), You could admit that yes, these ARE women's slacks (or whatever).

In this instance, if it were me (if only!), I'd almost certainly be wearing panties - in case things proceed that far, she gets a little extra treat!?!?

Whatever you do, treat this lady like the jewel she seems to be, and good luck!!!

[Stephanie Nicole]

Compliment her, hold the doors, chairs, etc. Make the first date about her. She already knows about Stephanie, make her want to really know Stephanie.

When I first me Chris, that was exactly what I did, I actually loved a top she was wearing and gave her a compliment on it saying how nice it looked. ( at the time I was dressed in guy mode) as I got more and more confident with dressing and went into the store more often I always told her how nice she looked. Then I started to get to know her better and she helped me put aside some of my fears going out fully dressed in public to the point that when I did make another purchase, I did one of the surveys on the bottom of the receipt and gave her 5 star ratings to her company and made sure she got the review. As far as holding doors pulling out chairs etc.... I was raised extremely old school and taught from a very young age to do that for a woman as a matter of courtesy whether we are together or not and even dressed as Stephanie I would not feel right if I did not do those things.

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Whatever you do, treat this lady like the jewel she seems to be, and good luck!!!

Sara, she is a jewel and I haven't felt this way about a person in a long time and that is why I posted here as I want to do the right thing and not embarrass her or myself

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Ok this may sound harsh, so please accept my apology in advance: Please don't do a movie. You are going to be together for 2 hours or so and not interact. Take in a concert in the park and take a basket dinner. Make every minute count. Maybe take a cooking class together? Be unique, given your current level of uniqueness(real word?? hehe)!

I would also frame your first date outfit to her like.. I have this great new suit I thought I would wear. Or would you prefer that dress you helped me pick out the other day. Play to her comfort zone.

Too naive?

Crystal no apologies needed, I want the advice that is why I posted here. I haven't been on a real date in a LONG Time and not sure what to do. Dinner and a movie was one of the first things that came into my mind. I have to check the dates on when it is there but not far from where I live there is a wharf where you can sit and watch the boats come in and out and sometimes they have a 6 piece band playing in the bandstand usually playing some kind of dance music, so maybe we do the dinner and then if it is a nice night we go to the wharf and listen to the music and maybe dance a little (I'm no much of a dancer but I will try my best) How does that sound?

[Aunt Kelly]

Dinner, with the option to continue the evening with music and dancing, sounds perfect. If the chemistry works, you'll know it before you even get to the dancing. If it doesn't, and early goodnight after supper is a graceful out for her. I'm betting on the chemistry. :)

Hugs,


Kelly

[Stephanie47]

I'm in the camp of going as your male self. There is not too much you can know about a person by just interacting in a store. I think showing up totally en femme really would be a distraction from establishing who you are as a person. Also, if the main attraction of the date is going to be you, how will you be able to gauge who she really is? There is also the fact, if you are not passable in the general public, you may become a distraction on the date. It's not every day the general public dining at a restaurant and going to a movie will encounter a cross dresser and her female date.

Just trying on clothes in a store and chatting about female garments, and, even trying one on in the store, really does not reflect a totally en femme presentation. I'd opt for a full presentation at an in-home dinner date. If she comes to your home or you do to her home, then you'll be the main attraction with nothing else to distract you and her form each other.

[Stephanie Nicole]

one thing I do not want to do is make her uncomfortable or take away from the date, If people are going to be distracted by us I would like it to be because we are a cute couple enjoying being out with each other, not for any other reason. So I think I will go as Dave and not Stephanie.

[Tracii G]

Movies are too impersonal IMO but a museum or a walk in the park might be fun.
Best to remember its just a date and really just to get to know each other so don't put the cart before the horse.
I have a friend that if a girl says yes to a date he starts making plans with the assumption she will be moving in and they will have kids LOLOL
Thats what I mean by cart before the horse.

[JenniferMBlack]

I will add my 2 cents worth as someone who has been there. Go as male. The opportunity will be there to go as female at a later date. Plus as he asked her out he should be the one to go on the date imho.

[Ariana225]

Let us know how the date goes now that we are invested in the story lol

[AllieSF]

I agree with Lana mae, just ask her what she would prefer on your first date together. If you are doubting, maybe tell her, let's start in male mode or as "John" giving her a chance to better know the original on the inside, because she will not be focusing on how you look, but more on who you are. Then the next date you can present the other you.

All that being said, first and foremost, why not call her up to confirm the time and the schedule/venues and ask what she would prefer for your presentation?

A side question, have you gone out a lot before dressed as a woman? If not, first trips out dressed can be exciting and sometimes very problematic for the person if they have any types of self doubt or fears. Good luck and enjoy, and please keep us up to date.

[sherri]

I think talking to her in advance and asking her preference, making it clear that you are fine with it either way, would give her a signal that her comfort level is important to you and that as a CDer you will make her feelings a priority in the relationship. She may be assuming your dressing is more private than public, so it's important to clear that up. If she defers and asks about your preference, I would choose femme if I felt it was okay with her. However, all this assumes you are presentable etc. One other thing, if y'all choose a Stephanie date I would suggest venues as TG-friendly as possible. If you go out a lot you may be thick-skinned about people's reactions (startled looks, stares, pointing and whispering, etc.) but it could be a bit unsettling for her at first. We look forward to hearing what you decide and how it goes.

[Tahoegurl]

I would have an open and honest conversation with her about it. It would also depend on where you are going... I think we get a little selfish about dressing sometimes and forcing our way on our SA s and friends. We look to this group to enable our position with out considering the people we want to inter act with. She is obviously OK with you dressing, she said yes to the date, how do you want to go? Ask her if she is OK with that.

[faltenrock]

one thing I do not want to do is make her uncomfortable or take away from the date, If people are going to be distracted by us I would like it to be because we are a cute couple enjoying being out with each other, not for any other reason. So I think I will go as Dave and not Stephanie.

Stephanie, you've received many replies going the same direction - to go as the guy Dave.
I do have some experience having met women when dressed and partying as Doreen. There was only one women I've met for a second time as the man I am. I asked her prior to our second meeting what she would prefer. She answered by saying she would like to meet the man and would feel more comfortable for that second meet.
Anyhow, I saw her as a man, dressed with jeans and a nice shirt.

Regarding your plans and intentions with this lady, I recommend to take things slow and go as Dave. Don't push the dressing issue, let her start talking about it and learn what she feels about it. It's necessary to understand that a woman could change her mind when she gets to know you better. She might not accept your dressing when she gets emotionally involved with you. Just wait what happens, perhaps she could be the perfect partner for you.
Take it easy without too many plans. If she is asking you why you didn't come as Stephanie, be prepared to have good and honest answers. She might expect you to be dressed on the first date. Chris should never feel that you only date her because you might think she is open for Stephanie in a regular friendship. Show her that you like her for who she is for you.
Good luck for your date.

Btw., my story (April/May this year) ended a little sad. It turned out that my new female friend has some personality disorders. After we gave up our friendship, she told me that she cannot accept Doreen, that was after she spent a party night with me as the man I am. It was a fun night but her problems were to big for me to handle.

[Jillian Faith]

Oh Honey I firmly believe you should go on the first date in male mode *(I WOULD NOT ASK HER PREFERENCE), after all it's a date and not a Girl's night out. Let the relationship develop and see where cross dressing fits into the relationship with this lady.

[Sherrii]

I would say go in male mode. If you wear anything female keep it very plane and not too noticeable. She knows you like to dress, but don't rush it or over do it. After a few dates you might bring it up if it hasn't come up before. Maybe ask at some point if she would like to go out with you dressed as a girl friend. This sounds great, don't rush it and blow it. Sherrii

[Brandy Mathews]

Stephanie,
I would go out on the first date in male mode and get to know her first. Then talk about things from there. I wish you the best though. Always nice having a GG in your life that appreciates us. Had a girlfriend years ago that knew, we had so much fun together.
Hugs,
Brandy ;)

[ClosetED]

I would go with presenting as male mode, but if you think she likes that you have another side, you could consider underdressing with panties and hose and painted toenails. She might enjoy that little secret that no one else can see. And if she does want you dressed, you can have an outfit in the trunk - maybe one she helped pick.
just some options,
Hugs, Ellen

[Stephanie Nicole]

Well tonights the big night, Can I tell you I'm as nervous as a schoolgirl going to her first dance? I have decided that I am going as Dave and Stephanie is staying home for the night. I purchased a new pair of Khaki Slacks and Shirt for tonight. Since the weather is Supposed to be pretty crappy today, I decided against the wharf and concert ( I have to check the website but I think the concert has already been canceled anyway).
I am taking her to dinner at a small Italian Restaurant that I know of, that is quite small and intimate and has really good food, and as can not come up with any alternatives (because of the weather) it looks like I am going back to plan A and taking her to a movie after dinner. Also on the plus side (as I may have mentioned before) I am very much into classic cars ( having restored one or two in the past and currently working on a 68 Chevelle). Tomorrow I am attending a Car Show to raise money to help offset the costs of school supplies for underprivileged children, and Chris asked if she could go with me.
As far as Stephanie is concerned, even though I know Chris seems ok with my dressing, I am going to wait and let her mention her and then maybe in the future we can go out together.

[JenX]

You have a great plan.... put a lot of thought into the evening. Go get her, tiger!

[alwayshave]

Stephanie, sounds like a great plan. Have a great time.

[Sabrina133]

Agree - go as a gentleman. The first time I went out with my wife, and she knew about Bree - the first time i met her i was in girl mode - we went out as a male/female couple. The rest, as they say is history.

[Aunt Kelly]

Good plan, Stephanie. Here's hoping the two you of you enjoy a wonderful evening and really hit it off.

Hugs,


Kelly

[Samm]

I've been following this thread. Good plan. You'll do fine. I'm looking forward to hearing how it went!

[Jeri Ann]

Well tonights the big night, Can I tell you I'm as nervous as a schoolgirl going to her first dance?... I am taking her to dinner at a small Italian Restaurant that I know of, that is quite small and intimate and has really good food, and as can not come up with any alternatives (because of the weather) it looks like I am going back to plan A and taking her to a movie after dinner.

Hey Stephanie,

Your plan is a winner. An intimate Italian restaurant and a movie is one of my favorite dates, I think, it's been several weeks. Sigh. Be careful and don't sweep your crossdressing under the rug. Minimizing it may give her the wrong impression. Be open and honest with everything about yourself.

Jeri Ann

[AndreaCalifCD]

Hope you both have a great evening! Let us know how it goes!

[Sallee]

Here is my free advice. I agree with teresa, ut if you spend more time as Steph and plan on more time as Steph maybe the firsdt date would be the way to go. But I thin k I would go in boy mode and maybe bring up my dressing while on the date, to much would scare her off I thing

[jack-ie]

I love the idea that you'll wait until she brings up Steph which she no doubt will since she's already aware of her. You have already broken the ice with her and more ice will be broken in the next two days. My, also free, advice is, when she brings up the subject, ask if she'd like to see Steph in full bloom. If so, be sure and include her, ask her opinion, is my makeup Ok? Is this too daring, etc. Let her know you value her opinion and she may run with it.

[prene]

Good luck but be careful.

Keep the channels open and do not push it too fast.

Good LUCK.

[RobertaFrancesca]

Great story hon thats awesome! I would go as Stephanie because she knows and you go out as her anyway.

[Jennifer Soames]

In the context of when you asked her to go out, if you were dressed then I would guess you have created an expectation that you will be dressed on the outing. In this case I would just ask her if she is expecting you enfemme!

[Stephanie Nicole]

Update, we went out and had a great dinner and a great time at the movie, then when out for a late night cup of coffee (neither one of us drinks more than the occasional beer or glass of wine) afterwards as it was getting late I was getting ready to take her home and since she lives a little far from me and we are going out early again this morning, she asked if she could stay the night at my place ( like a proper gentleman I let her take the lead and she slept in my bed while I slept on the couch, she even borrowed one of my nightgowns) we talked for a bit and my dressing did come up and she asked me why I did it, I told her about how I got started and how I feel when I am dressed. She seemed to accept that and even said she would like maybe in the future about having a girls night out) I even modeled a few outfits for her. Today we are going to a charity car show with my 1968 chevelle that I am restoring and it turns out she loves classic cars. Did I find a great girl or what!!!!

[faltenrock]

great, it sounds very promising for a positive relationship, keep us informed please

[karenph]

glad the date worked out and that you both had a good time. Hope the budding relationship blossoms for you!

[Stephanie Nicole]

As I said the date Sat could not have gone better, then we went to a car show on Sunday in my Chevelle, because Chris stayed at my house overnight she didn't have any clothes with her for the show so again she asked to borrow an outfit from Stephanie,( we are close enough in size that it worked for everything except shoes). She borrowed a pair of shorts and top and even a clean pair of panties. We had a blast at the show and then went to dinner afterwards, I took her back to my house where she collected her clothes from our date and then took her home, She told me she had an amazing weekend and couldn't wait to do it again, next time she wants to have a spa date with Stephanie, massages, facials, nails done etc...

[Connie.Marie]

Stephanie,
There is no doubt that YOU have found one FANTASTIC lady!

She's already laid out plans for your next date. Follow through if you feel comfortable doing all that.

I would start thinking about your 3rd date!

Congrats & enjoy, Connie.

Could it be that she likes you because of Stephanie?
Could she be seeing how far you'll go? Just a thought.

[Aunt Kelly]

Wow! You appear to have struck gold, Stephanie. So happy for you.

[Stephanie Nicole]

Stephanie,
There is no doubt that YOU have found one FANTASTIC lady!

She's already laid out plans for your next date. Follow through if you feel comfortable doing all that.

I would start thinking about your 3rd date!

Congrats & enjoy, Connie.

Could it be that she likes you because of Stephanie?
Could she be seeing how far you'll go? Just a thought.

We talked last night at dinner and she said she likes me for me all the parts of me and as has no problem with my dressing as long as I am being careful not to get hurt or not hurting anyone else. She actually thinks I'm cute when dressed up ( even though I am bald with a beard and moustache go figure lol). She loves that I have very masculine interests (as she worded it, like working on my cars and taking it to shows) and that even though Stephanie is a part of me, she isn't the whole of me. She did ask me seriously if I had thought about going full time and I told her no I do not plan on it as it is just a comfort thing ( I don't consider dressing a hobby, it is more a way of expressing a part of myself) and she accepted that answer as it was the best one I could give her. She said she is not into women but because I am still a man underneath the clothes, she does not consider Stephanie to be a woman.

[Stephanie Nicole]

Just a little update, Chris and I are still going strong. We see each other several nights a week and usually spend the weekends together either at her place or mine. We have gone out twice as girlfriends (that is the best way I could put it). next weekend is our 2 month anniversary and we are planning on going away for the weekend, I am picking her up Thursday night and we are leaving Friday morning for a weekend getaway in the Pocono Mountains, While I did plan on leaving Stephanie home for the weekend, Last night she told me to make sure I packed a nice dress for dinner one night. I am crazy about this girl and falling for her more and more every day to the point I am considering doing something I have never done before, As I said before I am very much into classic cars and own a 1968 Chevelle that I am about 90% finished restoring ( down to paint and some minor cosmetic things), I have had it for about 10 years and have never ever let anyone else drive it, Today I went and had a set of keys made for Chris, I attached them to a key ring that also has an ENGAGEMENT RING, I plan on asking her to marry me next weekend. She is the only thing I can think about when we are not together and when we are together I can only think about how lucky I am to have found such a wonderful person. When we go away I am going to use the excuse of teaching her to Drive the car ( thus the need for the keys) and have found a small secluded beautiful spot in an open field with a stream and waterfall in the background, that is where I am going to ask her.

[Kelly DeWinter]

Congratulations ! Make sure you start a thread to let us know how it goes.

[BLUE ORCHID]

Hi Stephanie:hugs:, That sounds just wonderful, please ne careful not to overwhelm:love:her, Good Luck with your plans,

Please do keep us updated, >Orchid

[DianaWales]

good luck

[Jenn A116]

Wow - getting engaged!!!??? Sounds like the two of you are going to have a wonderful weekend!!!

[Majella St Gerard]

Seems a little quick to be asking her to marry you, I wish you luck.

[karenph]

hope all goes well.

[Alice B]

I also agree. Go in male mode and let her see that side of you. She knows about the other side and you can present that later.

[Deborah2B]

Just a little update, Chris and I are still going strong. We see each other several nights a week and usually spend the weekends together either at her place or mine. We have gone out twice as girlfriends (that is the best way I could put it). next weekend is our 2 month anniversary and we are planning on going away for the weekend, I am picking her up Thursday night and we are leaving Friday morning for a weekend getaway in the Pocono Mountains, While I did plan on leaving Stephanie home for the weekend, Last night she told me to make sure I packed a nice dress for dinner one night. I am crazy about this girl and falling for her more and more every day to the point I am considering doing something I have never done before, As I said before I am very much into classic cars and own a 1968 Chevelle that I am about 90% finished restoring ( down to paint and some minor cosmetic things), I have had it for about 10 years and have never ever let anyone else drive it, Today I went and had a set of keys made for Chris, I attached them to a key ring that also has an ENGAGEMENT RING, I plan on asking her to marry me next weekend. She is the only thing I can think about when we are not together and when we are together I can only think about how lucky I am to have found such a wonderful person. When we go away I am going to use the excuse of teaching her to Drive the car ( thus the need for the keys) and have found a small secluded beautiful spot in an open field with a stream and waterfall in the background, that is where I am going to ask her.

It sounds like you have found yourself a wonderful woman. I will only say be careful about going so quickly into a marriage. Pace yourself because a wedding proposal this soon might scare her away and you definitely don't want to do that.

[Ineke Vashon]

I agree. Sixty days is a very short time. Enjoy your time together but let it build slowly. Just my 0.02cts, from long experience. Ask me how I know.

Ineke

[Cherylgyno]

Stephanie. Like many have already mentioned, it is probably too soon to go en femme. Just me but go in male outter clothes. It is a first date so under dressing should be more than cool as you want to be comfortable. I don't recall who it was that mentioned it but be sure to treat her like a real lady.

[Julie Slowinski]

Hi Stephanie, I'm new to this thread, but it reads like a fairytale. I'm so happy for you. My $0.02 is that it does seem early for a proposal, but on the other hand when you know it's right you just know. You've been with her quite a bit, so you must have a good feeling about how she is going to react. Maybe to offset the quickness of the proposal, suggest a long engagement. If she's really keen on the marriage idea she might suggest to make it shorter. By the way, your plan of how and where to do it is just perfect - totally romantic but with a good dose of your personality. I think she is going to love it. Sounds like you already have a good balance to your life, but don't forget to keep the male part of the relationship in the driver seat and save Stephanie for the special times. She seems very generous on that front, so you're very lucky that you can likely just wait for her it invite Stephanie to the party.

Wishing you the best for the big weekend. Go get'er gir!!!

[Stephanie Nicole]

Sorry for not updating this sooner. I did it, I asked her to marry me and she said..... YES!!!!!!!!!!!. She has made me the happiest person alive, I have been on a 3 week high. We have decided not to rush things and are looking at a Fall 2018 or Spring 2019 date. Since we have both had previous marriages we are going tohave a small ceremony at the spot where I proposed to her, with just our families and close friends. After my previous marriage broke up I did not believe that I could find another person that could make me so happy. I have felt like the luckiest person in the world.

[Jillian Faith]

Congratulations Stephanie!:):hugs::love::thumbsup::cheer::^5::jump ing:

[Pat]

Congratulations! :) So happy for you both.

[Julie Slowinski]

Was so afraid to reopen this thread. Then, I was literally doing the happy dance for you. Thank you so much for sharing with us such a wonderful time of your life. On a site that is filled with marriage challenges (to say the least), it is so uplifting to see one on the verge of blossoming. From the bottom of my heart - congratulations ... well done girl!!!

[Jamie Lynn]

Congratulations Stephanie!!! Apparently Chris didn't wreck the car?!!! :love:

[SkylarLee]

:jump: Congratulations!! :jump:

[Aunt Kelly]

Wow! That is wonderful news. Thanks so much for sharing.
:cheer::^5:

[Stephanie Nicole]

Congratulations Stephanie!!! Apparently Chris didn't wreck the car?!!! :love:

She was actually petrified to drive the car lol as it is kind of quick ( I put a 396 with a 5 speed in it). it took me a little convincing and a promise that if anything did happen I wouldn't be angry with her to get her to drive it. Now she is hooked and wants me to build her a Mustang (her favorite car). I actually tracked down a 66 fastback for sale at a good price, if I can make the deal I might surprise her with it for Christmas

[Beverley Sims]

If you asked her out as a male then that is how you should go, if you were dressed then you would present as female.

[karrin]

She was actually petrified to drive the car lol as it is kind of quick ( I put a 396 with a 5 speed in it). it took me a little convincing and a promise that if anything did happen I wouldn't be angry with her to get her to drive it. Now she is hooked and wants me to build her a Mustang (her favorite car). I actually tracked down a 66 fastback for sale at a good price, if I can make the deal I might surprise her with it for Christmas

WOW!! Stephanie,396.. w/ 5 speed... How does Tim the tool man put it Arrrgh!! Arrrgh! :)

[Jamie Lynn]

Awesome, Stephanie! I hope the deal works out!!

[Stephanie Nicole]

I want to thank everyone for their advice and well wishes. Chris has made me the happiest person alive. She loves me for who I am the complete package, not just part of it, and I love everything about her from the top of her head to the soles of her feet. I did get her the Mustang as a Christmas gift (shh....) Her father has a good friend that is doing the body work and hiding it for me while we rebuild the motor ( an original factory numbers matching 289 but an automatic not a manual transmission) and I am going to have it painted a nice deep red for her. I hate telling her I am working late while I have secretly started working on the car but I do know in the end it will be worth it. As for Stephanie she is alive and well and a part of our relationship. We don't really go out that much as girlfriends ( Like I have said tons of times I am not really passable) other than a late night drive or something along those lines but at least once or twice a week Stephanie has her time with Chris, and we both have lots of fun be it just watching a movie or playing a game or just sitting talking over a glass of wine, I let Chris lead the way to whatever we do.

[Kayliedaskope]

Gawds ..... '68 Chevelle with a 396 and five-speed, and a '66 Mustang with a 289 .... crap, I may want to marry you myself!! LOL
(Yup, i is a gearhead, too.)




I guess the big question now is which of you two gets to wear the wedding gown? :p

[Stephanie Nicole]

Gawds ..... '68 Chevelle with a 396 and five-speed, and a '66 Mustang with a 289 .... crap, I may want to marry you myself!! LOL
(Yup, i is a gearhead, too.)


I guess the big question now is which of you two gets to wear the wedding gown? :p

We have possibly even solved the wedding gown issue already ( nothing set in stone yet though) we were talking about having 2 ceremonies, one a traditional ceremony for our friends and families with me in a tux and her in a gown ( though since it is both our second marriages we really are not looking for a full formal occasion) and then a second one a few months later with both of us wearing White formal dresses ( not really wedding gowns per se)
Yes I am a real gear head, besides the Chevelle and Mustang, I have previously owned and/or restored a 1934 3-window coupe with a flat 8, a 1939 Plymouth Businessmans special with a 440, a 69 Hemi Road Runner and a 1970 Trans Am Super Duty 455
Most of the engine work I do myself, I am not a body man by any stretch of the imagination lol, but for her Mustang since I want it ready for Christmas, I have farmed out most of the work to friends so that it can be done in time. I have one person doing the paint and body work and her father and I are rebuilding the motor in his garage. I should have the car back sometime around Thanksgiving so that I can get the motor in and tuned properly before giving it to her

[Kayliedaskope]

Do the car up like the Mustang from "Bullitt" or maybe Eleanor from "Gone in 60 Seconds."

Let's see .... family vehicles were/still are:
'67 Mustang coupe with a 170 straight six
'63 Chevrolet C-10 with a 350 and a PowerGlide automatic
'68 Plymouth Fury III with a 318
'63 VW Bug with the original 1300cc and 6-volt system
'73 VW Bug with a dual-port 1600cc and a '79 transmission
'97 Dodge Dakota Sport with a 5.2L V-8
'07 Toyota Tacoma long bed

Oh, and my brother owns a Kawasaki Vulcan and a Triumph Thunderbird.

I'm really glad to hear that you found "The One," Stephanie, and I hope the two of you have many long happy years together and many miles under your wheels.

[April Rose]

I drove an S/S 396 once at Union Grove Dragway. It is a FAST car. The quickest and fastest thing I ever owned was a Suzuki GXSR 750.

Wow! Fast cars AND wedding dresses. You are a lucky individual. Enjoy!

[alwayshave]

Stephanie, Congratulations.

[MindiB]

I just happen to just now catch this thread and I am now exhausted. Congratulations. Wow talk about a find.

[Jesskm]

I think you're moving way to fast with this girl....getting engaged after only 2 months, and buying her a car based on infatuation! *yikes!* Take it slow and let time determine your future together.

[lingerieLiz]

Congratulations. I've known people who dated for a couple of years and the marriage only lasted a few months. On the other hand a quick engagement can last for years. Sounds like you are going to know each other with the longer engagement.