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Lana Mae
08-04-2017, 06:20 PM
If you could live 24/7 dressed, what would you lose or have to give up? For instance, I enjoy being grandfather, but would have to become grandmother or Auntie Lana Mae! How about you? Hugs Lana Mae
kimdl93
08-04-2017, 06:30 PM
I suppose the same things. I'm grandpa and dad. My sons and step daughters know I have some "issues" but I've tried to keep that away from them in recent years. I can't even begin to imagine acknowledging this part of myself to my brothers....although I know the word has gotten out...courtesy my first x, among others.
Karyn Marie
08-04-2017, 06:46 PM
I gladly would have to give up a couple of groups I belong to. I would also distance myself from many friends. OMG....I would do anything to live as a woman, or better yet, GRS. The time is coming soon, but the time is not quite right.
Nikki A.
08-04-2017, 06:52 PM
I'd hope that I would have to lose nothing. After all I am still the same person. My kids are on their own, I only have a few more years before I can retire, so for me I have been toying with the idea.
However I know That I will lose some "friends" but maybe I will just replace them with others.
Rachael Leigh
08-04-2017, 07:02 PM
Nikki I like what you say, if I did live 24/7 I would hope I would not give up anything, however the reality is most here would loose things most especially important relationships. Lana yes there are days I want to but it just would not be practical because yes there are things I don't want to let go of
Teresa
08-04-2017, 07:12 PM
Lana,
That's something we'll never know until it happens, if you read the TS section you'll get a clearer idea of exactly what you stand to lose.
I guess I wouldn't worry what labels they gave me as long as I didn't lose that contact, it's something I may be finding out in the next few months .
I have talked to TSs at my social group and some have lost big time .
NicoleScott
08-04-2017, 07:44 PM
Living 24/7 does not turn a grandfather into a grandmother. Neither will hormones or surgery. If you father children, you're a father, and if those children have kids, you're a grandfather.
GeorgeA
08-04-2017, 08:53 PM
If you could live 24/7 dressed, what would you lose or have to give up? For instance, I enjoy being grandfather, but would have to become grandmother or Auntie Lana Mae! How about you? Hugs Lana Mae
Not being a nudist I live 24/7 dressed. However, being a Miad I consider whatever I wear to be my regular attire. I do not "dress" like many here do, to look feminine. I dress for warmth and comfort, and what I have on is "just clothes", no ulterior motives involved.
What do I lose? Freedom, as the society is not quite ready to accept a man unconventionally dressed. I have to attend to outside activities in conventional attire, though always underdressed.
Jean 103
08-05-2017, 03:22 AM
Basically I did it for a year. I still continue to live as Jean, I just don't get all dressed up everyday. So the question what did I have to give up, wife and family. Long story
suzy1
08-05-2017, 04:51 AM
I would loose the love and respect from everybody around me.
This is the hard truth. Some argue that if others, [like my immediate family for example] really love me then it should not make any difference. I think otherwise, they would never look at me the same way again.
However I have no desire to go out dressed and I also have my own place were I can be Suzy all day long if I want to be, so i'm just fine with my situation.
Suzy is a happy bunny. :)
SaraLin
08-05-2017, 05:59 AM
If I could live 24/7 (which would mean that to the outside world I would BE a woman)...
At this point in my life, about the only thing I would likely lose is my wife. But that's a VERY BIG thing, and I'm not willing to go there. Pretty much anyone else of importance to me already knows about me, and has been OK with whatever I chose. She isn't.
It's the "could" part that tripped me up. Reality can be a bitch sometimes...
Stacy Darling
08-05-2017, 07:51 AM
I'd give up my whole family but not my friends, that's pure honesty!
Another Divorce, another mill, and a disabled wife!, Morally can't walk away!
So I do think of things such as this, But!
Stacy has to give up at times!
Angie G
08-05-2017, 08:02 AM
I think my wife would be fine with it But I couldn't do that to the kids and grandkids as far as friends go there are just a few I care about losing.:hugs:
Angie
Tracy Irving
08-05-2017, 08:05 AM
If you could live 24/7 dressed
I could purchase enough women's clothing to do it right now and nobody would notice so I would be giving up nothing. The only thing changing would be the cut of some of the fabric. Now, if I wanted to take it further and change the style and color of what I wear, I hope friends and family would be okay with me hiding my nakedness.
For instance, I enjoy being grandfather, but would have to become grandmother or Auntie Lana Mae!
So very, very not true. My girlfriend is TS and completed her transition 17 years ago. She is still her daughter's father and the two still celebrate Father's Day happily. She is a proud grandparent and has been a magnificent influence on her granddaughter. It's a little politically incorrect, but she taught her granddaughter to call her "Granite" (Gran-It, as opposed to gran-Pa or gran-Ma,) and the two of them have the most awesome relationship.
For me, I am my two sons' father and there's not a thing that can ever change that relationship between us. My eldest is getting married soon and one of my treasured memories so far in the run-up was overhearing someone say of me, "She's the father of the groom." I totally own that! And I am happy to live it.
We don't have to give up anything to be ourselves. We don't have to passively accept terms that don't fit us. We can create the new conventions in a world that is going to have to accept us. In fact, it's kind of our duty to future generations to do so.
Just sayin'. ;)
Dana44
08-05-2017, 08:21 AM
For our gran kids and daughters, No we are their granpa and that will never change.
CarlaWestin
08-05-2017, 08:25 AM
Although that all sounds so inviting at times, the true consequences would be more devastating for my wife. So the choice would be to declare that I was living as the other woman in this partnership or, that I choose to dissolve this commitment for my own selfish reasons. And that would make me happier how? Never lose track of commitments and priorities.
Krisi
08-05-2017, 08:35 AM
Most of the things that have been posted are legitimate. One thing that hasn't been said is "time". That's the time you will have to spend every day for the rest of your life shaving and making yourself look like a woman. Shaving your entire body every few days and your face every day. Putting on beard cover, your boobs and your butt and hip pads. And putting on more makeup as appropriate.
You will also lose freedom. The freedom to get up, throw on jeans and a T shirt and run out to get the paper or do errands. You'll have to turn yourself into a female before anyone sees you.
You will also lose freedom. The freedom to get up, throw on jeans and a T shirt and run out to get the paper or do errands. You'll have to turn yourself into a female before anyone sees you.
I suppose it depends on your presentation. Since the original question was "If you could live 24/7 dressed" and given the forum it's posted in, I suppose there's a sense of living 24/7 but still being a crossdresser. I can't imagine why anyone would do that, at the very least for the reasons Krisi cites. If you're going to live full-time, why would you give yourself so much hassle? In fact, that hassle quickly becomes dysphoria -- you are constantly disappointed in your own appearance to the point where it impacts your quality of life (e.g. you stay in on days you don't shave. You can't bear for people to see you without a wig and forms.)
So in that case, I think you'd move toward a lifestyle that would allow you to reclaim your time, which is exactly what I do -- I got up 10 minutes before I had to meet a friend for breakfast. I shook out my hair, pulled on a tank top and jeans and blasted out the door. I grew my hair out, so no wig. I'm on HRT so no forms. I've had electrolysis to the point where nobody sees a day's growth of beard on me (though I couldn't go two days) so I can shave later. I can be up and out just as fast as ever I could when presenting male, but now I don't present male. (The trade-off is that now I probably *can't* present male, but that's OK by me. 24/7 - right?)
But having attained that, I'm not about to give up my family relationships. If my family rejected me it would be one thing, but my family is accepting so instead I focus on changing the expectations. I'm still a Dad. I still look forward to being a grandparent. I still work with clients and have social interactions around town. Don't give stuff up without a fight. Don't passively let convention take things away from you. If you won't do it for yourself, do it for the folks coming behind you.
Tracy Irving
08-05-2017, 10:49 AM
I took the original question about living 24/7 dressed to mean wearing clothing (getting dressed) and that is how I answered it.
I understand that, to some people here, cross dressing and cross presenting are the same thing. To them it means way, way more than throwing on a pair of panties, women's shorts and a t-shirt. Nothing wrong with that.
Hip pads, shaving, makeup, etc... 24/7? No thank you. I don't even do that now!
Stephanie47
08-05-2017, 11:06 AM
I think it is a foregone conclusion anyone would lose some friendships and family relationships. There are people who do not care for others who are different. Birds of a feather flock together. Who would throw me aside? Frankly, I think if I truly desired to wear women's clothing 24/7 364 days a year and not wanting to transition, I would be deceiving myself. It's one thing to try the experience when my wife is out of town overnight or a week. It's another to wear women's clothing 24/7 365 forever.
Sharon budd
08-05-2017, 11:52 AM
Friday night's with the lads.
Alice Torn
08-05-2017, 01:00 PM
Suzy, Same here. If family, or some friends, neighbors, locals found out, life would be even more very difficult for me. So, i very seldom go out, and if i do,it is many miles away, if at all. I could not do some of the car repairs on my car, or play sports, or go fishing and swimming, without problems. It may be part a lot of fun, but would come with a bi kicker.
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