A Conundrum - what are you?

[Becky Blue]

Some recent threads regarding breast plates etc got me thinking, which can be a dangerous practice at times :D...

One the one hand the idea of a really great looking breast plate is very intriguing. The idea of being able to look outwardly very feminine with a decent cleavage, realistic boobs, hips pads etc etc is very appealing. I think it would be great to go out looking as realistic as possible.

On the other hand when I have been out so far, I have really enjoyed the fact that I am able to blend quite well and look reasonably feminine. I like the fact that I can make a small natural cleavage from my own skin and that i have an 'acceptably decent shape' when dressed. I think in part I get a kick out of being out dressed similarly to a natural woman (wig excluded of course).

Perhaps I need to arrange some test outings to compare..

So what kind of girl are you... a. I will use anything I can to look at female as possible or b. i will try and use my natural self as much as possible.

[Rachelakld]

I don't go for the "over done" look.
When swimming I don't wear breasts.
Going to the gym or sometimes the shops, I don't wig up.

I tend to only go fully made up, if I'm out expecting to get a few hours of girl time

[Teresa]

Becky,
As natural as possible . I only use forms to give a little more on my bust otherwise it's all me. I'm sure I would feel more uncomfortable using lower padding and breast plates. OK I'm not into MIAD which some might say is more natural but that feels wrong and looks wrong in the mirror. I'm shortly going to go out full time or thereabouts so I'm sticking with as natural as possible . I did ask the question about wearing a wig full time in the TS section but it was moved to clothing and shopping, that is more of a concern wearing a wig that is wearable all day and how to get everyday makeup right . That also applies to clothes ,deciding what GGs really wear everyday and working my own outfits out, that means staying warm and still looking OK without looking like I'm going out for the evening , It's proving a challenge because I'm trying not to wear trousers , I guess Ill have to accept that one and the more careful tucking that goes with it .

The more artificial it looks the more difficult it will become to live everyday. I did put this point to a lovely GG in a bridal shop, I asked her about the extra padding some Cders use, she laughed and said CDers are so lucky because they usually have better figures and legs (She can't get over mine ) women don't want to carry the extra baggage around with them . We don't want big bottoms and large thighs, and boobs down to our waist , she was envious of my figure and told me in no uncertain terms to look after it and stay natural .

[Helena]

Becky,
Good question. Philosophically I would love to create a flowing hourglass figure with padding and waist cinching but practically being natural," lumpy and bumpy", works for me and like you i go out and blend reasonably well, and enjoy not looking radically different to the women around me. All I have is a little enhancement to the bust using chicken fillets. I bought some very cheap forms but felt even a supposed B cup stuck out enormously.

Funnily enough when I first went to our social group, the same one as Teresa, who has a lovely slender figure btw, i wore a moderate bodyshaper, but only there and not when out and about. I think that is because i always feel rubbish compared to the members who are immaculately put together.

[DIANEF]

Very few women I see walking about have huge amounts, or even moderate amounts of cleavage showing, in fact few have what could be described as an 'hourglass' figure. With what I have a I can get a small bit of cleavage showing but with much of what I wear you couldn't see it anyway so I don't worry about it too much. I dress to blend, and so far it seems to be working just fine.

[Jean 103]

I'm pretty natural. I just wear a pushup bra with a little extra wedge padding. I keep my make up simple. I have long hair and it's dyed. Im thin and have a tan. As far as dressing I tend to show a lot of skin and wear high heels. Thu I will sometimes wear skinny jeans. It really depends on my mood.

[Elizabeth G]

If I'm going out I wear forms, hip and butt pads, a corset, wig, makeup... the whole nine yards. That being said, my makeup tends towards a more natural look, I don't wear low necklines and all my padding etc is just an effort to even the playing field so to speak and sized to look natural.

[CarlaWestin]

Interesting. I've been afforded a generous amount of Carla time during normal hours and I've taken advantage of it by going out. I still just mingle loosely at the fringes because I tend to be enjoyably buxom when I dress. But now with more opportunity, I'm going to try to tone down the look a little. Maybe a little more bottom enhanced is the more natural approach. I don't know.

Here's from a recent outing.

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[Fiona123]

I'm trying to figure out what kind of girl I am. I don't like the buxom look on me. Not comfortable with that.

[audreyinalbany]

I wanna blend but to me that means boobs and hips are a necessity. But I agree with Diane that very few women have an hourglass figure,, so I go with lumps and bumps and all

[Stacy Darling]

I think that Teresa has summed me up already!

It's Au Natural for me, Ok I do wear a slightly padded bra but 3mm of padding aint much!

Keeping myself as real as possible keeps me happy! Do love my make-up though!

[BrendaPDX]

I try to blend, and have also learned that there are very few perfect figures out there, to try to pad and cinch my way there only makes me stand out more. I have been going for more of an understated look lately but noticed I don't get noticed at all; still trying to find that sweet spot.

[Pat]

So what kind of girl are you... a. I will use anything I can to look at female as possible or b. i will try and use my natural self as much as possible.

My experience is that I went from A to B over time. At first, A was thrilling an exciting and drained off all the pent-up energy I developed between outings. But over time I realized that to be happy (instead of just thrilled) I had to present with my own natural features. It's not as pretty, but it makes me feel honest (not saying anyone else is being dishonest, just saying that with pads and wigs, etc. I felt like I was in a disguise rather than being me.) And, of course, over time I realized I had to be that person all the time for the same reason.

[Jaylyn]

Not being out but do think f I were I would more than likely try to blend. Being 6'2 and 1/2 " tall and size 48 chest I do have long arms and a very small butt and waist. I would have to work on the bottom half to blend that means hip pads and a fatter butt. I wouldn't want to draw attention so mine is definitly blend. My chest does have some cleavage even with out a bra.

[Tracy Irving]

I am going to go with "B" and my natural self. There are times that I want to dress a little nicer though. That is when I pull out the "C" or "D" forms.

[NancySue]

I'm definitely a b. Like Jean, my push up bra with a little extra padding, plus scooping feels very natural...very. Blending in is mandatory in our area. I still have yet to see any hose. Maybe the cooler weather will bring them out. My wife says, "not"
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[Sarah Doepner]

I am over 6 feet tall and over my ideal weight by, well, too much. My arms and hands and face are not feminine at all. Given all that, I try to create as many feminine cues as I can if I'm going out. I also try to pick outfits that are appropriate to my age and whatever I'm doing. In the heat I try to avoid a corset and if possible hip and butt padding, so I look for skirts that accentuate my hips (I've found some skorts that do this quite well) and tops that hide my belly. I will do my makeup, nails, wear a wig and go with whatever accessories will encourage anyone who sees me to think "woman, big woman" before they think "that's a man". I don't know how well it all works, but I haven't had many situations where I've either noticed or been told I've attracted undue attention.

It's possible all those things are more likely adjusting my attitude than they are at fooling strangers and it's my attitude of being happy with how I feel and how I think I look than how I actually come across.

[GracieRose]

Going out, I want to have fun and blend so I follow the advice I've gleaned from this forum and wear what the GGs my age are wearing. Enough padding and/or forms for a B cup, and a little hip padding. Few GGs in their 60s out shopping are showing much cleavage. I would love to be out in a dress or skirt, but that would reduce my ability to blend since few if any women wear skirts or dresses around here.

[Alice Torn]

As much as i can, to look like a six foot six older fairly attractive leggy lady.

[ellbee]

When I used to get all dolled-up, having those "extras" were an absolute must!


Hip/butt padding (I eventually settled on a Veronica 2) and fake boobs (rice in doubled-up knee-highs, with a padded bra) helped get me there. Without that, I don't feel I'd be as convincing, which was very important to me back then.


I did get into corsets (half-way decent ones), but I kept those for behind closed doors only.

Though when I went out, a body-briefer was also a nice help, which was practical, as well. That, combined with the boobs & hips/butt, created a pretty realistic GG-figure. :thumbsup:


I was never one to show cleavage, so that was a non-factor. The tops/dresses I wore would, at best, come down to right above where cleavage would typically start.



These days, only in guy-mode... I go all natural.


If I ever were to start again dressing completely en femme, I'd go right back to what I used to do. But I believe I no longer have that in me... A little sad in some ways, but I'm also more than perfectly fine with that! :heehee:

[Dana44]

I always go natural, my so said to show what I have. I have Good B sized boobs. . I use push up bras and they show nice. Don't wear any hip pads and go totally natural. It seem to me that putting things on like pads would be unnatural.

[Tahoegurl]

hi Becky - for me I wear forms or plate depending on the outfit and I just started wearing hip and butt pads (not totally sold on them) - but I am a tall thin guy with a guy shape. to get womens clothes to look right on me I wear the extras. I also need to say it is kind of all or nothing when I dress...wig makeup forms, the whole thing. It is all personal and individual - not every approach works for everyone. I know that I am happy with my look and who I am.

and the hip pads...I bought a vintage 40s dress and it was sewn in a way that expected the wearer to have full hips. so I bought the pads and it looks nice in teh dress - I am experementing in other outfits to see if I like them all the time.

cheers

[StarrOfDelite]

Definitely a natural look girl here. After a lifetime of weight lifting I have wide shoulders with developed deltoid caps, triceps, biceps, lats and pects. Additionally my waist is small, and my hips are flat and narrow (I believe the medical term is "noassatall"), so I am fairly top-heavy and look ridiculous if I wear any sort of large breast form. I wear simple breast enhancers of the "chicken cutlet" type, and that gives me a B/C Cup silhouette. I like to try to blend, and look like a woman as much as possible, and there aren't very many 5-11, 150 pound women who have much more than a B Cup, so I'm content. I tried padded underwear and pads, but because my thighs and legs are slender they detracted from the effect and I retired them.

[Julie Slowinski]

I am definitely in the group A category. My objective is to just look fabulous and that usually requires over dressing for the occasion. But, I don't really care. In fact, I don't care that much about passing. I think my perfect compliment would be for someone on the street to say "I know you're a man, but dude you look totally hot" I guess what I'm really looking for from others is to appreciate all the effort I put into creating that illusion. It's for this reason that I prefer to go out to the gay/drag clubs - no need to pass, just about any outfit is appropriate (usually the wilder the better) and people are more than willing to interact with me in a positive way. Based on that description, one might say that I'm more in the direction of a drag queen. The problem with that is even though I know I wear too much makeup I'm actually going for realism and not the over the top look with those giant eyebrows. Plus, if I ever had to lipsync for my life, Rupaul would pull out a gong in about 30 seconds.

Now that's just me today. Who knows, in a year or two I might find myself at a Macy's in a pair of flats. By the way I do own a fair amount of casual clothes, including several pairs of flats that I love to wear around the house. I'm just not longing to wearing those outfits out of the house, which is the way I feel about my party dresses and 4" heels.

[Nikki A.]

Thanks Julie: I think my perfect compliment would be for someone on the street to say "I know you're a man, but dude you look totally hot"

I go more for a natural look to a point. With cutlets I can easily fill a 40 C cup and I do use some kind of tummy shaper to kinda smooth the stomach. Other than that no hip pads or other padding. Most women are not an hourglass shape anyway (thanks fast food).
My biggest problem is that even with make-up, I barely if ever pass with my mug. I don't let it bother me though. Unlike Julie, a complement for me would end with "OK you may be an guy, but you make a passably ugly woman"

[Lana Mae]

I am looking for the lady next door look! My avatar or profile pic would be good! At 5' 11" and 200 lbs, a C cup looks about right so I must use forms! My hips are 41 and will need padding to look right with my 44 chest! Cleavage is not a concern! Need to work on the make up! Going to go to MAC with the two pics and see if they can come close! Hugs Lana Mae

[AllyCDTV]

I love wearing my breastplate when camming or for my own amusement at home. However, the few times I have gone out, I wanted to blend in as much as possible to the point of being virtually invisible. I have no doubt that if I went out with my breastplate cleavage exposed, I would attract all kinds of attention of the kind that I would not want.

[Jaymees22]

I'm just trying to look as normal as possible. This doesn't always happen as I forget the age appropriate thing. I certainly don't over pad anything. In the make up department I find less is better. I have wigs but usually go with my own hair, most women my age wear it shorter than I do. So I guess I'm a natural woman.;)

[Janine cd]

I usually wear a bra with B cups and a moderate set of breast forms. I am 6 feet tall so I am usually dressed in skirts or dresses that fall at least 4 inches below the knee. I prefer 2 inch pumps to heels and allow my narrow hips to be accentuated by wearing a wider belt over my skirt. With carefully applied makeup and a properly styled wig, I could pass as an aging matron.

[Allison Chaynes]

I have a permanent breastplate screwed into my sternum, unfortunately it does nothing to help create bewbage.

But seriously, my chest scar deters me from wearing anything that shows cleavage, even in Dude Mode.

[SkylarLee]

It depends on my mood. Since I am small framed, I can get by with the no hips/small bust look (natural self) and I probably won't be noticeable. However there are times that I want the voluptuous look and so any help (breast forms/hip pads) is greatly appreciated. (Who says "no" to bigger breasts and shapely hips?)

One of these days, I will be brave enough to test out both looks in public.

[Cheryl T]

Well being follically challenged I of course wear my wigs.
Makeup is something I never leave home without as I am most assuredly not a MIAD.
The only other thing I add are my breast forms. I would love to have my own, but it's not in the cards at the moment so I'll settle for store bought.
If I'm wearing something figure hugging then I add my padded panty, but mostly I go au naturale.

[Pat]

The only other thing I add are my breast forms. I would love to have my own, but it's not in the cards at the moment so I'll settle for store bought.


Hey, they're yours (just keep the receipt to prove ownership ;) ) My girlfriend always told me, "Don't think of them as fake boobs, think of them as statements of intent."

[Krisi]

Someone already posted this, but I'll agree. Most women seen in public have little or no cleavage showing. The few who do attract attention to themselves. If we are trying to blend, this is not what we want to do.

There's always the exception - This morning, my wife and I went to IHOP for breakfast. There were three women sitting at a table near us and one was showing several pounds of boobage. Unfortunately, she was well past the weight where she should (in my opinion) have been attracting attention to herself. And it was too early in the day for the display.

[docrobbysherry]

Becky, sounds like u don't approve of breast plates or pads? Both of which I usually wear. Your thread doesn't differentiate between TS's and CD's. It should! Because we have different needs, apparently.

As a CD I have no interest in dressing for everyday, vanilla, venues. I dress to please me and no one else. I do not want to be invisible when I go out!:daydreaming:

As a result, I prefer T friendly events, clubs, bars, etc. U want to meet at Walmart for shopping? Denny's for lunch? Window shopping at the mall? Fine! U go dressed in your best, "I'm dressed fem but hope no one notices me", outfit. I'll meet u there. I'll be the guy in drab that everyone really DOESN'T NOTICE!:heehee:

[kimdl93]

I probably come down on the B side. I have nothing against forms or breast plates... i prefer the former...just personal preference. I will almost always wear some modest hip augmentation and depending on the outfit, I may wear a firm shaper to accent my waistline a bit.

My goal is always to blend. Even when I'm alone, I shoot for a feminine, casual look. Something that will work at the grocery, the mall or a coffee shop. But if I'm going to the theatre I'll try to up my look a bit.

[Micki_Finn]

Prefer natural as possible for comfort and convenience.

[Cherylgyno]

Becky. I have natural D cup breasts due to gynecomastia.

[Julie Slowinski]

Unfortunately, she was well past the weight where she should (in my opinion) have been attracting attention to herself. And it was too early in the day for the display.

If we would like to the ability to wear whatever we want wherever we want, we should begin by extending the same courtesy to others.

[Beverley Sims]

Me,
I sport a B cup and a wig, still look a bit rough though.
Yes I do wear makeup, maybe I don'tpass well but I like to look comfortable.
I do get the usual feminine pronouns and I have never been sirred except over the phone.
Oh well that's another hurdle......

[phili]

I'm a male girl so I am very happy and comfortable exactly as I am. I accentuate my waist and add a little flare to my shorts or skirts to balance my broad shoulders, and my little B breasts are perfect in my eyes- the feel alive and sensitive- what more do I need?

[Richelle]

I go with B. I am lucky to have my one hair and enough breast tissue to use a push up bra to give be small natural cleavage.

Richele

[Becky Blue]

Becky, sounds like u don't approve of breast plates or pads? Both of which I usually wear. Your thread doesn't differentiate between TS's and CD's. It should! Because we have different needs, apparently.

As a CD I have no interest in dressing for everyday, vanilla, venues. I dress to please me and no one else. I do not want to be invisible when I go out!:daydreaming:

As a result, I prefer T friendly events, clubs, bars, etc. U want to meet at Walmart for shopping? Denny's for lunch? Window shopping at the mall? Fine! U go dressed in your best, "I'm dressed fem but hope no one notices me", outfit. I'll meet u there. I'll be the guy in drab that everyone really DOESN'T NOTICE!:heehee:

Not at all Doc... thats the whole point of my OP... on the one hand the plates look amazing... I would love to go out looking so 'genuine' and I have nearly bought hip pads on a couple of occasions. But I also love the way I look 'more naturally' with my small be noticeable cleavage. As I consider myself more than a CD but less than a TS on the gender scale thats probably why i sit almost in the middle with regards to how I look and the use of plates/pads etc... line ball but slightly towards natural...

[Krisi]

If we would like to the ability to wear whatever we want wherever we want, we should begin by extending the same courtesy to others.

Yea, right. I did not scold her for her appearance, in fact, I did not say anything to her. As far as I know, she was wearing what she wanted to but the reality is, people judge us by our appearance.

[KimberlyJean]

I go minimal, forms and small hip pads are a part of me and I don't like the way I am shaped without them. I use the larger sized hip pads from bubbles bodywear(still pretty small) and they fill in the gap from my love handles to my thighs and really give me the subtle but feminine shape I desire. I will even wear them with outfits that are loose enough you wouldn't notice if I wasn't, they are part of my crutch. It's crazy but my body stores fat in exactly the right spot to make me look better. I do all the girly things that the girly girl in me wants, wig, makeup, nails, but for me that is natural that is how I would dress if I was a real woman and had a job that was condusive to style. Cleavage can go either way, I have a low cut maxi dress that I love and doesn't feel ****ty at all and another one that is a halter top and has a small slit in front. It really just depends on when I shaved last.

I will admit a fascination with the gurl shorts on thebreastformstore site, I am just not willing to pay that much for something I probably wouldn't wear very much.

[Stephanie47]

I'm a girl/woman watcher. I've always been and always will. I've always thought women who want to show off their boobs to the extent they are almost falling out of their tops are not appealing. Sure, when I was a teenager such displays got my juices going. Women who displays some mystique have always been appealing. Somewhat akin to unwrapping a Christmas present.

I don't think I have sufficient flesh to bind myself torso to create cleavage even if I wanted to. I'm a natural 42-38-40. That does not create much of an hour glass figure, but, there are not all that many attractive women who have that Barbie doll look. I wear a 'C' cup bra. I will readily admit I'm cheap and create breasts using inexpensive, but sturdy, latex balloons. Depending upon how I feel I can adjust my figure. I do not wear skirts because it would accentuate the lack of indentation at the waist. I'm totally a dress wearer. Being tall at six foot I have to shy away from dresses made for the average height woman that have a defined waistline. I wear empire waist, sheaths or wraps which do not hug the waist.

This week I was reading an article which indicated the average American woman is now on the low end of plus size and falls between sizes 16 and 18. The average waist for a woman is now 37.5 inches. So, me at a waist of 38 with a six foot height, I think I fit in nicely. My dresses run 16 or 18 or XL. I'd also say as a male at six foot height and age 70 my 42-38-40 look a heck of a lot better than too many guys half my age.

[sometimes_miss]

Not being out but do think f I were I would more than likely try to blend. Being 6'2 and 1/2 " tall and size 48 chest I do have long arms and a very small butt and waist. I would have to work on the bottom half to blend that means hip pads and a fatter butt. I wouldn't want to draw attention so mine is definitly blend. My chest does have some cleavage even with out a bra.

I'm about the same shape and height. I wear dresses and skirts, under which I can wear laced western style bloomers or petticoats to make them flare out to appear as if I have a bigger butt and wider hips than I actually do. I don't mean the many layers of ruffles type things, just malco modes stuff.
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[Dava76]

Personally I don’t mind the breast plates but the full head woman mask creeps me out big time. Just seeing them makes my skin crawl. No offense to anyone who uses them or love them just my personal feeling.

[Melissa Lange]

I only wish I had naturality on my side. Instead, I have to hide an awful lot of man to become a woman.

[Gizmo, Debbie]

I'm as natural as possible. I Don't use hip pads or any other kind of padding. I don't wear makeup iether, can't stand the stuff. Don't pluck my eyebrows iether. I do shave all over though. I actually kindda enjoy shaving most of the time, sometimes it does feel a bit of a chore, just sometimes.

[Krisi]

"So what kind of girl are you... a. I will use anything I can to look at female as possible or b. i will try and use my natural self as much as possible. "

More towards "a" than "b". I don't wear a breast plate to show cleavage. I can get a little cleavage with tape but most of my tops are not low cut enough to show cleavage. Forms feel more natural to me than I imagine a breast plate would and there are no seams to hide.

My "natural self" screams "dude". Not that I'm overly masculine in build, I'm just not feminine in build. Breast forms, hip and butt padding and of course, a wig bring the illusion of "female". They also give me the feeling of a female body. I try to wear outfits appropriate for my age and the time and place. No mini skirts, no platform heels. I dress to be the daughter my mother never had.

[Jordan-NH]

I personally shoot for just a smidg beyond blending. I want my shape to be natural as possible and I try to dress to accentuate the feminine shape (and to squelch the male features that don't hide well) but still be very classy. I tend to simply wear jeans these days instead of dresses or skirts, because let's face it, that's what most women were these days. I don't want to draw attention, but I want to dress well enough that I will turn a couple heads. The best compliment I ever got was the first time I went out with a girl friend that I came out too. We were driving to an even when I realize that she's just staring at me and I'm like "uhhhh, what?". To which she responds, "You're perfectly proportioned." To which I thanked her and the 13 pounds of silicone that was strapped to me!

[IamWren]

Because I am an Assigned Male at Birth, have had testosterone coursing through my body for decades and have done strength and muscle training for decades I am very much a guy.

So to get to the point where I could even remotely blend without drawing a lot of negative attention to myself, I will use every single piece of gear possible to attempt to create the illusion of an every day run-of-the-mill woman. I use hip pads, breast forms, cinchers (plural), makeup, fake nails, wig and whatever else I can think of that is a female cue. When I’m fully dressed there is so much construction going on underneath that skirt that it is no way natural.

Being a man-in-a-dress is NOT something I aspire to be in my presentation.

[Becky Blue]

Sue, I agree 1000% on the MIAD thats most definitely not something I aspire too either. My point in the OP was are you the kind of person who will leave things natural IF they can get away with it not being MIAD? Or will you go as far as possible to do anything to be as female looking as possible? Most women put effort into looking female often too, with push up bra's, control pantyhose, makeup etc...