Thoughts on underdressing

[Becky Blue]

As someone with is on a T Spectrum, generally I like to dress properly and go out. Alas due to a number of complications this is not something that happens nearly as much as I like. On rare occasions such as today, I get a strong urge to underdress, and will put on some panties under my work clothes. I have never really understood why this works for me. I kind of thought it was a way of connecting to my feminine side, but then today I had a bit of an epiphany.

I was sitting in a coffeeshop doing some emails this morning and a middle aged women sat at the table next to me and that when it hit me, we were both wearing panties, just for a moment I felt connected to her, sort of like one woman to another... and I felt really good...

Hope that makes sense to some of you... I would love to hear others experiences with underdressing, particularly those who don't do it often.

[BayBeeBlue]

Hi Becky Blue.
I underdress nearly all the time nowadays wearing panties and or tights with my boys tucked away nicely. I just can't stop doing it - it feels so right for me.
I get what you're saying about the coffee shop situation or similar. Wondering sometimes if the woman knows with her female intuition.
I love driving underdressed too.
I do it at work, at home - anywhere & anytime I can. It just feels normal now.
So happy continuous underdressing. ��

[DIANEF]

I don't underdress. I feel it has to be all or nothing though on rare occasions I have worn tights under my trousers. I have done so in the past but always felt it was like half doing something, obviously that's just my opinion. I suppose in my head not wearing stuff every day makes it a little bit more special when I do.

[Lacey New]

My opportunities to dress are rare. But I do periodically get opportunities to underdress. So there have been plenty of times when I have gone about my business wearing panties all day an in cooler weather, panties, bra and perhaps a camisole and pantyhose. I guess I have always described myself as “CD Lite” anyway, so underdressing is pretty much as fem as I will get outside of the privacy of my home.

[Kas]

I agree with Diane. I have tried but it just doesn't do it for me. I think part of the reason is because honestly, the type of women's underwear i prefer to wear are not the most comfortable thing to wear for 8 hrs a day if you know what I mean...

[Maria 60]

Besides summer I would believe after work I wear panties and pantyhose almost everyday, when we go to a mall or stores I usally don't wear socks and I guess I get a little thrill knowing when I'm walking or sitting and alittle pantyhose is showing. I love the feel of silky panties and pantyhose rubbing against my jeans, it definitely gives me a connection with my fem side, and when in malls and seeing women wearing pantyhose it feels like we have something in common. Believe it or not my wife likes when I take little risk and she loves that shes the only one who knows what I'm wearing under. I love underdressing.

[sarah_hillcrest]

in 2014 I started delivering mail. I was suffering in the cold and so I wore some insulated underwear bottoms. They were very uncomfortable. I remembered from a movie something about how warm pantyhose were for their thin size. I had of course always been interested in them but only very occasionally worn them. I bought a pair of wine colored footed tights and started wearing them for work. Not only were they far more comfortable than the insulated underwear but far less bulky, and much warmer. Then there was the added bonus of how I felt every morning pulling the tights up my legs.

My wife was understanding about me wearing them for work and surprised me one day by bringing home a pair with the package that said, "Women's Fashion Tights." I started wearing them all the time at home.

Not much later while in Gordman's while she was shopping I was checking out male underwear and there was a pair of Reebok running briefs. They essentially look like panties, no flap, no big waistband. I was literally amazed and had to have them. She was surprised I wanted such girly looking underwear, but was fine with it.

Fast forward a few years. Most of my undies are now either male style bikini or actual panties and I've started wearing the full blown feminine panites to work most days, my wife seems to have gotten used to it. it's become pretty normal for me and I tend to forget about it, yet still find them very comforting to wear and occasionally remember I'm wearing them throughout the day which always seems to give me a mild sense of relief.

I do not wear bras very often though, never at work, and only occasionally around the house. I'd like to find a less noticeable one and wear it more often.

[Rayleen]

Becky Blue, underdressing is one of my enjoyment too, Bra, panties, some make up.

It makes me feel in a female connection and put me in a happier mood.

I should try pantyhose , haven't used them in a while.

[carolyn todd]

Hello Becky
That's funny i was in COSTA this morning having a coffee and i was under dress and smiling every now and then that i was wearing knickers and a bra but the smile were not just
for today it was for Tuesday this week were i was dress and walking around the town.
normal i just wear knickers every day

Carolyn

[GretchenM]

Good question Becky. For me it is the thinness, the fabric, and just the idea of wearing the most intimate things that women wear. I think the tightness is a factor in the comfort as well. It tends to almost do away with the sensations produced by the three amigos when in men's underwear. Panties are not good for your sperm count, but at this point that is the least of my concerns. It is an interesting phenomenon that whether male or female we tend to make a big deal about underwear. I have always wondered why some women often wear really sexy panties when nobody ever sees them unless one gets up close and personal. I think it is just the idea of having them on - the "I've got a secret" factor. Why do some men wear boxers and some wear briefs and why is style even important for something that is almost always hidden? Maybe it is just appealing to something subconscious or at least semi conscious. I really don't think people do that just in case they get lucky, but maybe subconsciously that is a factor.

[Barbara Black]

Funny you should ask... Yesterday I wore a bra and camisole to work. I've always worn panties for years, but the heavier clothing for winter months allowed me to wear more. Once I considered it while dressing in the morning I knew I had to do it. The only thing I can't get away with is a slip because I bend over a lot and it may escape and fluff out of my backside.
As for as the actual wearing of them yesterday, it felt good to be reminded once in a while that I was wearing them. Oh, I left the breastforms at home, too obvious as well.

[RADER]

I have been under dressing for years. Panties for over 12 years now,
And a bra for over 4 years; along with fem jeans.
I feel that since I could never pass, this is a way I can dress and still not
be noticed.
Rader

[Majella St Gerard]

How do you know the woman was wearing panties? Maybe she was underdressing too.😅
As I don't own any men's underwear I am always underdressed, it used to give me a thrill but now it's just normal.

[DMichele]

I am with Majella on this...

As I don't own any men's underwear I am always underdressed, it used to give me a thrill but now it's just normal.

I wear bra, panties, and thigh-high stockings every dat to work. The stockings do add warmth in the cold office and when I am out in the factory.

[CarlaWestin]

I've switched to panties only. I even have some that are fairly androgynous for doctor visits. They're comfortable and it's something I don't think much about anymore.
For some reason, though, I don't particularly care for wearing a bra without forms so I'll underdress with A-cup pals occasionally.

[GenevieveF]

I love winter because it’s the season I underdress most of the time. I wear a bra under my shirt and sweater which hides the bra and pantyhose. I wear lipstick that is perfectly matched to my natural lip colour.

[Sometimes Steffi]

For me, a lot of it's that old children's taunt, "I know something you don't know."




I agree with Diane. I have tried but it just doesn't do it for me. I think part of the reason is because honestly, the type of women's underwear i prefer to wear are not the most comfortable thing to wear for 8 hrs a day if you know what I mean...


I used to have some of those kind of panties. But since I go out alot, I've switched to more comfortable panties that I can wear all day. Now my only decision is to wear panties that I can feel all day long, one ones that are so comfortable that I actually forget that I'm wearing them.

A few years ago, I would wear panties every day. But, I go to yoga three times a week after work and always wear women's yoga pants. I don't mind being that girly dude at yoga class, but I don't want to out myself. I wear my tighty whities because I think there will be a visible panty line under may yoga pants. Also, since I'm doing a lot of bending and stretching, I can't guarantee that my panties wouldn't peak out above the waistline.

[Linda E. Woodworth]

I have been wearing panties and hose under my trousers for so many years it's gotten to the point where it feels "wrong" to wear anything else.

[NancySue]

Becky, I have similar complications about going out...another story. Underdressing is an important, every day happening...always panties and some type of hose. I only occasionally wore a bra. Recently, however, I’ve developed a strong “need” to wear a bra. I now wear a bra everyday. It’s now a part of my underneath ensemble. I feel like something is missing when I don’t or can’t wear a bra. And, yes, I feel even more “connected” with my supportive wife. When she buys lingerie, she includes me. We wear many of the same brands. I, recently bought a lovely bra, told her how comfortable it was...she just laughed, but also bought one and loves it. It’s nice knowing we’re wearing the same things..underneath. And, do I wonder what other women are wearing underneath. Three guesses..lol

[Steph_CD_62]

I wear panties every day of the week, so I don't even consider that under dressing. I've been wearing panties everyday for around 15 years now.
During the cooler/colder months I do enjoy wearing thigh highs to keep my legs warmer, plus since my coat will hide me wearing a bra I also enjoy that too. While I am wearing my sexier bra/panties out in public I do wonder how many GG's are wearing just plain boring bra and panties or are they wearing something sexier.

[Cheryl T]

I've been wearing only panties for the last 12 years so I don't really think you can say that I'm underdressing.
Sometimes on the weekends in the fall/winter I do wear pantyhose under jeans/slacks, but I never wear anything more. I don't get any thrill from wearing a bra under male clothing. I think that's just asking to be discovered.
When I come home from work and whenever I go out I fully dress as it's the me I feel is more real these days. The closet is a thing of the past except as a place to keep my clothing.

[Fiona123]

My therapist encourages underdressing. That's all I need to know!

[Julie Slowinski]

I almost never underdress. About a year ago I thought I would give it a fairly serious try and wore panties for about two weeks. In the end, I found it too distracting and I had a hard time concentrating on my work. Now a days, I’ll do it mostly as a bit of an extension of my Julie time. For example, if I had a really good daytime dressing session at home and it needs to end, because of life, I might wear panties for the evening just for fun. Another example is associated with my first time out. I had it planned for during an out of town trip, so I wore panties on the plane and the rest of the day while thrift shopping and exploring the town in drab. It was fun and never let me forget what I planning to do over the next few days.

[Pat]

I kind of thought it was a way of connecting to my feminine side, but then today I had a bit of an epiphany.

I was sitting in a coffeeshop doing some emails this morning and a middle aged women sat at the table next to me and that when it hit me, we were both wearing panties, just for a moment I felt connected to her, sort of like one woman to another... and I felt really good...

Hope that makes sense to some of you...

This makes total sense to me. If you accept that you're transgender (and you apparently do) then you have that predisposition that makes you feel happy when you do something that aligns to the gender you are. You happened to notice the moment you snapped into a closer alignment. That's an awesome thing. :)

Over the course of my becoming who I am I've had that feeling from things as simple as wearing a ring. Jewelry of any kind was frowned upon when I was growing up and learning to mimic male behavior. Putting on a ring -- even a "man approved" Boy Scout ring, which is what it was -- triggered a sense of connection to the me I wanted to be. Yes, as years passed I went though an underdressing phase but honestly that sense of connection came even when I did other things. (I remember a friend getting testy with me because I used Clearasil over my whole face, like a foundation, instead of just on my acne spots. I claimed it worked better, but honestly I was doing it because I was getting that connected-to-me feeling when I did.)

Great insight.

[Lydianne]

@Sarah_hillcrest: I'm pretty sure I read or heard somewhere that pantyhose is an acknowledged solution by male motorbike riders for protection from the cold.

- Lydianne.

[JaymeCD]

I don't have anymore boxers or guy underwear. All I wear is panties under my guy clothes. Long story short, I don't get many opportunities to openly dress. Mainly at home and at stores when I'm trying things on. To me, I don't know if I would've transitioned if I had the resources. Plus my prejudice parents, but that's a different story. I know it's better late to do something than never.

Anyways, back to the original question. Underdressing helps me scratch that itch per se. Plus the taboo. Underdressing is simple and gives me that fem feeling I need. Kind of like drinking coffee. I have a headache before I drink it and must have it to continue my day

[CynthiaD]

I have no male underwear of any kind. I wear panties every day, sometimes with a bra or camisole. It's all very ordinary. I have no special feelings about it ever.

Would I ever go back to wearing male underwear? No, no, no, no, NO! My mind recoils in horror at the thought! I'd rather be staked out on an ant hill!

[PamelaRI]

Like others who have posted, I don't have any men's underwear. I even wear panties to the doctor's office. Instead of men's t-shirts under my shirts, I wear ladies stretch tanks or camisoles. I find them more comfortable and they fit better than that men's stuff.

[countrygirl]

Funny I see this today. I wore to work today, panties and pantyhose. I wanted to wear a sports bra but could not as it was showing. But I did enjoy it. Most of the time it is all or nothing. Today, however I could deal with partial underdressing.

[Alice B]

All I own is female underwear and in the winter months I often wear panty hose under my pants while playing golf. Keeps me warm and happy. If only this would hep my score

[Donna St. Marten]

I can't fully dress as often as I like, so under dressing fills the gap for me. I like having feminine garments close to my skin, so panties, a camisole and pantyhose are part of my everyday attire.

[Becky Blue]

So many great responses I wish I could respond to everyone, so thanks girls :) and apologies for not addressing every post even though I would love to... so a few responses:

Dianef - Thats actually me too most of the time I am very much an all or nothing girl but at times I just need that F connection.

GrethenM - I find most panties to be a lot more comfortable i think its the thinness of the material.

Majella - Funnily enough when I wrote the OP I thought I bet someone says how did you know the woman was wearing panties :)

Pat - I not only know who I am, but embrace her :)

[janhoney]

I used to only underdress on occasion for fear I would get into an accident and the EMT would see my panties and sometimes, pantyhose. For the last few months I have worn panties pretty much every day. Guess I don't worry about accidents as much :). Now that it is cooler I will wear thigh highs under my pants. Pantyhose is probably my #1 obsession but under pants the thigh highs seem to feel better than pantyhose,

[Joni T]

I just don't get the under dressing thing.
Jon

[Teresa]

Becky,
I usually only underdress if I'm going out shopping and intend to try on clothes . Years ago I was caught out when buying a pair of heels and the SA waved a pair of knee highs in front of me making sure other customers saw and said you will have to slip these on before yo can try shoes .

So now I do it as a safeguard for not being caught out like that again, besides shoes are easier to slip and and skirts look better if you have holdups on.

Funny little story from the other day,I popped in to see an old friend , she works for a theatre group and buys wigs on a regular basis so I asked if she could spare an up to date catalogue , while we were talking I was trying to pull my holdup up which had slipped down , she creased up when I told what my problem was !

[Stephanie47]

I never gave underdressing much thought until I started reading threads and comments on this site. I decided to give it a try. As a retiree I did not have to worry about a coworker discovering what undergarments I would be wearing. During the late fall or winter months I gave it a try. It was not just panties. It was a bra, panty, camisole, garter girdle with stockings. With regular socks and a heavy sweatshirt there was no evidence of any cross dressing. I even stuffed my bra with a Nerf ball which was cut in half for some light weight padding, which I did remove before going into a store. In actuality I totally forgot I was wearing women's undergarments. There was no thrill. I guess I am a visual person who likes to see himself/herself in a mirror wearing a dress, heels, hosiery and wig. On occasion I do wear a Vanity Fair nylon panty brief in either black or white. The only time I feel the nylon brief is when I sit too long and sweat a little. Nylon is not absorbent like cotton. I can understand why my wife prefers Hanes cotton briefs in the basic white.

[Ineke Vashon]

I like the feel and look of nylon panties. Indeed they do not absorb sweat but OTOH they are easy to hand wash, squeeze dry them in a small towel and hang them up. They're dry in no time, unlike cotton. Just my:2c:

Ineke

[Jess S.]

Over time wearing panties everyday has become second nature. Much more comfy than tidy whites for sure.

[Charona]

I don't wear undershorts of any sort, because I find myself more comfortable without. In winter I wear pantyhose or tights as a base layer. In summer I will wear support pantyhose on long motorcycle rides (No Nonsense All Over Shapers, if anyone cares). I also don't like thick socks, so I wear the thinnest I can find, which are ladies knee-highs. Whether any of that counts as underdressing doesn't really matter to me.

[Robin777]

I wear panties exclusively. I have a couple pairs of mens briefs,but have not worn them in years. I sometimes wear pantyhose in the winter when I take the dogs for a walk. I have worn pantyhose to work on occasion. I did last winter when they were demolishing part of the building I work in and had the heat turned down if not off. Great way to stay warm and I enjoyed wearing them. I would wear them more but they get warm. I sometimes also wear sports bras and camisoles on the weekends.

[Ineke Vashon]

Actually, I only have two pairs of boy shorts left. Strictly for wearing to a doctor's office (if I remember in time to switch):eek:

Ineke

[Meghan4now]

I've participated in this similar question in the past. I think there are layers to underdressing, (insert pun here). But for me, underdressing is just a touchstone. When I need a bit of a fix and the opportunity to dress isn't there, at least I can choose my skivies. I wear comfortable enough ones that don't work down or up. The closeness, fabric and thinness are a bonus. Mostly I get to be me.

But I don't do it all the time, although most of my male underwear is pretty close in construction.

[Lea]

I much prefer to be completely dressed but when I want to dress and can not I will under dress.

For me when I dress I want to leave the male gender behind and enjoy the female in me. Any connection I can feel with other women is great.

We had a secretary one day at work having trouble with her hose slipping down. Knowing and experiencing that problem in the past it was nice having that small bond that men would not understand. Other things like that include hearing women say they are not happy with their make up that day, knowing what it is like to have to sit a certain way in skirts, the daily ritual of moisturizing, shaving etc.

One time I had dressed for an extended period of time. I just started thinking about my daughter who was killed in a car crash. I just started crying. Usually ,when not dressed, I become angry and want to hit something. It was an unpleasant experience, in either gender role, but it was nice to have be able to cry like women sometimes experience emotions.

When I undress it usually painted toe nails, hose and panties. When I see other women I sometimes smile knowing what I am wearing and that we have that in common. Anytime I can experience anything that women do I feel a connection.

[Nastasha]

Panties everyday for 28 years, bras everyday for the last 5 years. I under dress because I can't fully dress everyday. My wife knows as does my doctor and her nurses, nobody cares. If you don't make a fuss - they don't either. The panties I wear for comfort, bras for fun.

[Robin-in-TX]

For me it isn't a thing. I wear as many or as few feminine things as I can. I can always wear panties as those are not on public display. So, underdressing is not a thing for me; panties are just part of my wardrobe. Until the first of November, I wore a military uniform and those are just that, uniform. Under my uniform I wore panties as that part is what I control. So, I've worn panties for years, not because I'm underdressing, but because I'm being me and I would wear them if I were able to wear a skirt everyday. I do still have a few pair of men's boxers but they rarely see the light of day.

[GaleWarning]

I wear cotton panties every day. They are not stretchy or tight, but very comfortable, so there is no danger to the jewels.
On the weekend I will often wear pantyhose and a bra, but tend to do so only at home.
My SO tolerates this, and I love her for it.

[Marianne S]

I'm like DianeF and Kas; I don't underdress. Why is that, exactly? I feel as Diane does, that it needs to be "all or nothing."

To be more specific, I think it's because I see it as a matter of discrete gender roles. At any given time I can be in "guy mode," or I can be Marianne. I'm perfectly happy in a male role, and CDing for me is erotic in one way or another, though I'm sure that's not the whole story. But to underdress feels to me like "compromising" that male role. That's in addition to the risk of being embarrassed if anyone should ever discover what I'm wearing underneath! "Why make myself nervous?" is one way I look at it. Conversely, if I'm going to dress feminine, I want to be Marianne, and I wouldn't want to "spoil" that feeling by mixing it with guy clothes.

Once or twice I have tried going out wearing jeans and a T-shirt with panties underneath. But they're pretty unisex clothing anyway, so on those occasions I could imagine myself as secretly being Marianne although I looked like a normal guy to anyone I ran into. But it's not a habit of mine.

Also when I say "all or nothing" that's not entirely true, because often at home if I can't be bothered to "dress" I'll simply slip on a skirt and panties and nothing else. But again that's the "feminine Me," without anything male to compromise it.

I guess we're all different!