Are we Helping to get Women back into Frilly Lingerie By wearing it Ourselves

[Robbiegirl]

I love wearing frilly womens things Like Babydoll nighties, Peignoir sets, full slips and even petticoats but also love it when women wear these things !

For those of you who are out to your wives does your dressing make them jealous and inspire them to put on pretty lingerie and dresses like you do.

Its hard for me to believe that when you first started wearing frilly nighties to bed that your wife didn't either say wow that looks cute and comfy or teased you by saying something like - Are you serious ?

Women are so clothes conscience and love to give compliments that I have to believe you have heard comments about your dressing and its had some effect on them !

We really need to get women back into Frilly things !

[Steph_CD_62]

My wife is more of a tomboy and has been most of her life. She never wears any frilly lingerie. All of her bra and panties are made of cotton. The couple nighties I have bought her she wore them once and then put them away and I haven't even bought her any lingerie for over 10 years probably closer to 15 years.

[Isabella Ross]

I'm married to a girly girl. And even she laughs at some of the stuff I wear to bed...

[Nikkilovesdresses]

We really need to get women back into Frilly things !

Good luck with that Robbiegirl. They either like them or they don't, and in my experience very few of them do.

I only ever had 1 girlfriend who was really into them. I had a few who would wear stockings now and then, but I got the impression it was more about hooking a guy than because they liked wearing them. Part of what drives me to wear frillies is that I just want them in my life, and if she won't wear them, that only leaves me. It really is one huge disappointment.

[Cheryl T]

Although I do love my feminine finery and wear it all the time and have a very wonderful and accepting wife I don't believe that because we wear these things that it will influence women in any way to do the same.

Women have become empowered in the last few decades for sure and most have become comfortable in things like jeans and leggings and except for the occasional bedroom adventure I'm sure they are not enamored by the frills and lace that most of us find so attractive. Certainly they do love to show off now and then but I feel that the attraction for us in many cases is that we don't have the flexibility and option to wear these things when we like and that pushes many to do so more than the average woman would.

[Judy-Somthing]

I wish!
My wife stopped wearing dresses years ago and two years ago when she found out I like wearing women's clothes she cut up and threw out all her lingerie!
It's a catch 22, the more I want her to dress sexy the less she wants to.
The only way I'm going to get someone in a nice dress is to wear it myself.

[Pat]

We really need to get women back into Frilly things !

No, we don't. What "we" need to do is check our male privilege at the door. Women can choose their own clothing, just as you wish to choose yours. They don't need lingerie mansplained to them. They don't need to be guided or fixed. The only thing out of whack here is the sense that "we" need to control them. Jeeze! :brolleyes:

[Sandra]

Really :Angry3: how about you wear what you want to and let us GGs decide for ourselves whether we want to wear frilly or not!

[DIANEF]

The only way I'm going to get someone in a nice dress is to wear it myself.

How true. My wife never wears dresses, and as for lingerie, only in our very early days of being together did she have any, and she admitted it was only to please me she even considered wearing any. Actually the days of me even wanting her to wear lingerie are long gone.

[Fiona123]

I love the feel of frilly clothes. Sadly my wife will have none of it.

[docrobbysherry]

Using that same argument:

Let's get women back in the kitchen by doing all the cooking and cleaning ourselves!:brolleyes:

[Robbiegirl]

I'm married to a girly girl. And even she laughs at some of the stuff I wear to bed...

Probably a Babydoll ! LOL its hard to get them into one espcially ones with rhumba panties !

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Really :Angry3: how about you wear what you want to and let us GGs decide for ourselves whether we want to wear frilly or not!

LOL ! Sorry ! I just believe if you ladies would wear these silly items that make you look even more feminine we guys wouldn't have to wear them so much ! They are fun for you but embarrassing for us

[Nigella]

99% of the stuff you are talking about is not practical, women wear clothing that will be suitable for their needs, not to titillate themselves, like some.

Take a look around the real world, next you will be wanting them to wear a French maids dress and 6" heels to clean out the bathroom.




LOL ! Sorry ! I just believe if you ladies would wear these silly items that make you look even more feminine we guys wouldn't have to wear them so much ! They are fun for you but embarrassing for us

Wow, you really know how to dig yourself into a hole, how deep do you think you can get?

[Sandra]

LOL ! Sorry ! I just believe if you ladies would wear these silly items that make you look even more feminine we guys wouldn't have to wear them so much ! They are fun for you but embarrassing for us

Oh so it's my fault that you have to wear them so much, don't make me laugh, don't make what I wear or don't your excuse for your dressing!!


Who's says it makes us look more feminine? you don't know me and know nothing about me and you certainly don't know how feminine I lam so don't tell me that I should be wearing these frilly things.

[Kelly DeWinter]

What do you mean "We" ?

This is the type of topic that feeds into stereotypes and as you can tell by the responses is not going to win any converts.

"Originally Posted by Robbiegirl

LOL ! Sorry ! I just believe if you ladies would wear these silly items that make you look even more feminine we guys wouldn't have to wear them so much ! They are fun for you but embarrassing for us"

If you are running for spokeman for guys, this is not the way to do it.

[Alice B]

What I wear has no effect on what my wife wears and she has never been into frilly things except for our honymoon

[NancySue]

Not under this roof. She’s, more and more, dressing for comfort and practically. Heels, hose, skirts and underwires are rarely seen around here. Having said that, I’m so thankful for her support and help, I wouldn’t think of saying anything that might make her think I’m being critical of what she wears. She’s fine with me wearing hose, heels, nighties, slips, etc. my observations locally seem to indicate others are going for comfort and practically too. I’m letting a sleeping kitten alone.

[GracieRose]

i believe that most mature women outgrew that stuff long ago. I agree that they are cute and fun to wear, but I have to agree with the GGs that feel that it is not practical and there are more comfortable choices available.

[Micki_Finn]

If they were comfortable or convenient women would still be wearing them. The tone of this post kind of implies that you think you know better than women what they “should” wear. And for a crossdresser to complain that women don’t wear the clothes traditionally assigned to their gender... really?

[Tracii G]

For once I agree with Sandra and Robbiegirl you need to tone down the projecting just a bit.
Not all of us have a lingerie fetish.

[Kas]

No. I do not think what crossdressers wear would influence any GG in the slightest, despite what we may like to think in our heads. If anything, it would pu them off.

[DaisyLawrence]

I was going to comment here but as is often the case it turns out that Pat got there first with all the wise words that I wanted to use. Then Sandra topped it off with more wise words. Robbiegirl, you should read these responses and try to understand what they are saying because your response so far suggests you just don't get it. It is the 21st century you know and I think members of this community should be more open to the concept of an individuals right to choose their clothing regardless of their gender than most other people. As Pat said, Jeeze!

[Jodie_Lynn]

I do so hope that Robbiegirl is using the Imperial "We", because as sure as shootin' she doesn't speak on my behalf, nor for any of the GG's I know.

It must be nice to live on Fantasy Island.....

Originally posted by Robbiegirl:

"I love wearing frilly womens things Like Babydoll nighties, Peignoir sets, full slips and even petticoats but also love it when women wear these things ! "

[Barbara Jo]

FWIW.....

IMO, there was a time when women entered the work force and business etc, and they wanted to prove that they were just as capable as a man.
So they started to dress less feminine to be taken more seriously.

Now that they have proved their point, I now see a slow but steady return to femininity.
I now see things like the white silky semi transparent blouses of old, worn with pencil skirts, stockings (panty hose) and even a return to slips in some stores.
I even see the beginning of a return to '50s--'60 fashions.... all with a definite modern twist of course.

From what some females have told me in the past, they love to dress very feminine at times .... they love feeling very feminine..... just as we do.
I think now they basically just need the peer approval to do so.....so they do no feel out of place when they do.

[Rowan Ailbhe]

What many of us crave....is acceptance of what we desire to wear, how we desire to present ourselves, who we want to be, How we wish to be seen.
Is it fair of us to not be accepting of others desires?

[lingerieLiz]

When we first dated my wife was super sexy. Lingerie didn't make her that way, but she wore very sexy lingerie. Over the years she has moved to comfortable things. Some of her bras are sexy and others just functional. Same throughout her clothes. As she moved up in the world she dressed more conservative as did the men. What I wear is my choice as it is with her. Now that we are totally retired she and I wear what most of the other women in our lifestyle do. We no longer have to impress or wear "office" style clothes. As for lingerie I do wear sexier bras, but I'm smaller than our women friends by a cup or more. I've been teased during our martini hour if I wasn't a C but a double D or more I'd buy other bras. I'm sure they are right.

[Stephanie47]

Several decades ago in our younger years negligees were the bedroom attire for my wife. We had fun Saturdays shopping for lingerie and colorful slips in midtown Manhattan; Macy's Herald Square, Gimbel's, Lord & Taylor, Sach's Fifth Avenue. Back then she was required to wear dress or skirts & blouses at her jobs. I realize many women are not required to wear dresses at work. So be it. At the time she also looked terrific in a plain white tee shirt. It was not the clothes that creates the excitement.

[char GG]

Earth to Robbiegirl! Give it up!

[Maria 60]

Oh yeh, I'm definitely the dress up women, my wife can't be bothered anymore. Just last week I went to bed with stockings and a corset and a few other occasions before that. But it was last week that I made the comment about how the shoe changed foot, and how I'm dressing the way I would like to see her dressed.
I stopped trying to figure it out and just go with the flow, it makes things easier this way.

[Vickie_CDTV]

It is never going to happen, no matter how much others (or myself) wish it would. Traditional feminine dress is not coming back, there is almost zero desire among GGs to go back and all we can do is wear ourselves.

[Megan G]

Omg way too funny.... “boo hoo,women won’t wear what turns me on anymore”...

Have you ever sat down and thought about the fact that it’s not just women and that you men are just as guilty of the very same sin?

How many times have i read on here someone commenting about the fact us women don’t wear skirts or dresses anymore and have become too casual in our dressing but take a look at how men are dressed today... t shirts, ball caps, jeans, running shoes.... when was the last time any of you men got all dressed up in nice clothes “just because”. And no... a polo shirt or plaid shirt is not dressy... it’s a step above a t shirt but sorry not dressy..

It’s not a women’s thing....it’s a human race thing... the world is becoming more casual...

And here is a piece of advice for those of you complaining about your spouse.... lead by example and no i am not talking about your cross dressing. Maybe if you dressed nicer....so would your spouse. Complaining will get you no where...

Nuff said...

[LilSissyStevie]

If you want to see women prance about wearing scanty, frilly things, you should buy a ticket to the ballet. I went to the Nutcracker the other day. It was marvelous.


No, we don't. What "we" need to do is check our male privilege at the door. Women can choose their own clothing, just as you wish to choose yours. They don't need lingerie mansplained to them. They don't need to be guided or fixed. The only thing out of whack here is the sense that "we" need to control them. Jeeze! :brolleyes:

By the same token we don't need any self-righteous virtue signaling transsplaing to put the brutes back in their place. The GGs seem to have been able to defend themselves. But your chivalry is a credit to the patriarchy nevertheless.

[Robbiegirl]

Thanks Stevie ! Never meant to offend women just jealous that they feel they can wear whatever they want and have fun but most have a problem when we want to wear silly things also and have fun !

[char GG]

By Robbiegirl:
"just jealous that they feel they can wear whatever they want and have fun"

What in the world is that suppose to mean? If you are jealous, that is your problem. I would love to wear a sequin ball gown all the time and "have fun" but I would look "out of place and silly". Maybe that is how you look when you "wear whatever you want and have fun". Sounds like you have a fetish and think everyone should be on board with you.

It's cute when a 4 year old wears a superman/or fairy costume every day and everyone sweetly calls them "superman or fairy" but a grown man wearing women's lingerie and expecting some kind of applause doesn't really work the same way. You may just look "out of place and silly". Obviously you can wear whatever you would like in your own home, just don't expect the world to change for you because you are jealous.

Thanks Megan G for a voice of reason.

And to answer your OP:
No, you are not helping women back into frilly lingerie by wearing it yourselves. Are women helping getting you back into pants by wearing them ourselves?

[sometimes_miss]

When a woman is single, there's an incentive to wear tight, scratchy, uncomfortable clothes that expose a lot of skin: To attract a mate. Once 'hooked' and landed, that incentive is gone. So most wear stuff that's more comfortable and less likely to expose themselves. Sure, some might still like the attention that those clothes get them, but husbands after a while stop responding to their wive no matter what she wears. Wives have been known to walk around in sexy outfits and even naked when the sunday football game is on, and the husband STILL won't pay attention to her.

[Di]

The saddest thing of all you are serious about all this nonsense.
You be you
Let your wife be who she is.
Sounds like you do have a fetish that's fine but get real.

[Kiwi Primrose]

No. I wear the frilly stuff, she wears the plain; I wear the skirts, she wears the pants; I wear the lace bras, she wears the functional supporting bras.
I'm making up for lost time, she has "been there and done that" and is over it.

[char GG]

@sometimes miss
Not sure where you dream up your information but your comment about women wearing tight, skin tight clothes until the “man” is “hooked and landed” is another male fantasy. Maybe after they are “hooked and landed”, the women find out they are not such a great catch.

[Pat]

[Speaking in Moderator tones] This is a crossdresser support forum, so it's fair to have a discussion about how various aspects of crossdressing impact you, but it is not fair to assign motives to others (GGs, for example) nor to disparage how others (GGs, for example) dress. (See the rules under "Rights of Content." https://www.crossdressers.com/forums/faq.php?faq=main_rules#faq_content ) Locking threads is my least favorite moderator function, but we need to keep the discussion in bounds.

[Kelly DeWinter]

There has to be a something to the "frilly" aspect of lingerie, after all Victoria Secret sells a gazillion dollars annually of it, and since it's so hard to find anything that properly fits most TG/CD there's not much support (pun intended) for the OP's argument.

sometimes_miss does have a point
and
char gg has a point as well.

At what point does something become a fetish ?

[Robbiegirl]

Ok then how do we get women back into dresses and frilly lingerie ? My fantasy life is to have several date nights a month where we both get dolled up and have fun

Is it too much to ask women twice a month to get out of our pants and back into the dresses and petticoats they wore for hundreds of years ? If not happily give them to us to wear.

[Kayliedaskope]

Maybe start by politely asking if they could dress up like that for you? This whole thing has to start somewhere, and usually that 'somewhere' is one person at a time. Maybe if your SO starts doing it, another woman wil see her and think, "Wow, she really looks nice - maybe I should try that." And then she tells two friends, and they tell two friends, and so on ...

Bottom line: if you want to start a movement, there has to be a catalyst, a spark. That spark may burn fast or slow ... it may fizzle out, or lead to an explosion, but without that spark, the world will continue to move on.

[Kelly DeWinter]

"We" don't get "women" to do anything. A fantasy is a personal thing. If you are looking for a 50's thing, you can :
. watch re-runs of "Mad Men"
. Take a trip to Germany where 50's petticoats and the Fonz are huge, not to mention Gaterntanz and Beer Halls
. Take a trip to Japan where Square Dancing and MANGA are huge as well.
. Some cities like Baltimore have an annual festival called Hon Fest which is also big on Petticoats

Kaylie advice is sound as well.

Also you have to understand that fashion comes and goes, and in relationships if you push too hard for what you want without considering the other person don't be surprised if nothing happens.

[Jodie_Lynn]

Ok then how do we get women back into dresses and frilly lingerie ?

Do you mean women in general, as in, ALL women, or just the women you dally with?


My fantasy life is to have several date nights a month where we both get dolled up and have fun

There is nothing wrong with a fantasy, I am positive that you could find a suitable & willing companion. There are probably many fetish sites you could search.


Is it too much to ask women twice a month to get out of our pants and back into the dresses and petticoats they wore for hundreds of years ?

Do you REALLY expect women to give up the freedom to dress as THEY choose, in order to satisfy YOUR personal fetish? How arrogant and selfish of you.


If not happily give them to us to wear.

So who is stopping you? Dress as you please to suit yourself and stop trying to impose your will and desires on others. In a general way, we are all striving to be allowed to express ourselves in a manner pleasing to ourselves. Many of us desire the freedom to dress as we would like, present as we wish whether as male, female, or somewhere in between. How ironic that you seem to want to impose your vision of how part of the population should dress on a forum and to an audience that wishes that we could all dress as we want. In my opinion Robbiegirl, you are a fetishist. There is nothing wrong with that of course, but you should really stop playing the martyr with your fantasies.

[Georgina]

No. I wear lingerie because I like it but only like frills on a petticoat. I am not trying to influence any others choice.

[giuseppina]

Robbiegirl, just cool it. The genetic ladies posting in this thread (and likely those who read but don't respond) are not impressed, as well as some of us CDs.

IMO it is incredibly disrespectful to tell an adult how to dress themselves.

[alwayshave]

I don't believe I or any CDer effects what women wear. I wear what I like to wear and my fiancee wears what she wants to wear.

[rachael.davis]

LOL ! Sorry ! I just believe if you ladies would wear these silly items that make you look even more feminine we guys wouldn't have to wear them so much ! They are fun for you but embarrassing for us

Then don't wear them yourself - I'm moving towards full time, but I dress LL Bean (skirts / slacks / sweaters) for therapy and general wear, I dress in jeans, tanks, and flannels (womens cut) when I'm working my shop. What I wear under them, or in my bed is nobodies business but my own. Dress any way you want, and please stop dictating how the rest of the world presents - no one else is on this planet to give you your morning dose of jollies.

[ReineD]

And to answer your OP:
No, you are not helping women back into frilly lingerie by wearing it yourselves. Are women helping getting you back into pants by wearing them ourselves?

LOL

And to Robbiegirl, you need to realize that women get as much pleasure out of wearing women's clothes as men do out of wearing men's clothes. Clothing is mostly just usual and customary day-to-day wear, and not "fun". I think that CDers get a great deal more fun wearing women's clothes than women do.


My fantasy life is to have several date nights a month where we both get dolled up and have fun

Is it too much to ask women twice a month to get out of our pants and back into the dresses and petticoats they wore for hundreds of years ?

If a woman wants to have fun with you, it will be about her excitement over being with you and not about the clothes. It's never about the clothes for us. As to trying to convince women to go backwards by wearing petticoats, good luck! We've progressed a great deal these last hundred years. It's not over yet, there is still job and salary inequality in addition to the issue of sexual harassment, but going back to wearing petticoats would defeat the gains that we've made. No one wants that.

[Rollermiss]

I guess I am lucky my wife loves lingerie as much as I do. She wears it under her work cloths every day. She seems to wear the skimpiest lingerie to be even in the coldest weather. Me on the other hand break out the sleep pants and long sleeves, ladies of course.

Kelsey

[phili]

I had these same fantasies, and still feel them occasionally. I'd be surprised if quite a few of us didn't, at some point. Let's admit we love clothes and feel so keenly the idea that they are important, and a means of communicating, and who doesn't want to share the joy! Many have pointed out here the fallacies in this fantasy, and I'm chiming in with Pat late on this, but anyone who wants to share their wishful thinking and dreams here needs to be able to rely on being treated only with kindness! along with all the very useful doses of good advice everyone has shared.

PS I lovingly and enthusiastically asked my wife for shared lingerie days, but she refused. She did go through a short phase of saying that she was the owner of the right to fancy lingerie, and then bought some, but took it back- a combination of not feeling attractive enough, which I tried to rectify, but really just not wanting to remember that I would be wanting to wear it, which would completely ruin it for her. I am very very glad some members do have the fun of it, though. That helps me feel it wasn't a bad idea after all!

[Diane Taylor]

I doubt that women will change their habits about frilly things because we are wearing them. Is it possible that we may have the opposite effect?:doh:

[sissythings]

I so agree Robbiegirl. It seems as though many GG take their femininity for granted (which is so understandable). Some of us non-genetic girls however have been deprived the pure ecstasy of feeling sexy, silky, feminine lingerie caressing our skin. In my delusional mind, it doesn't make any sense why a GG wouldn't have the same desires? But I obviously can never share the same perspective about wearing lingerie that a genetic woman may have.

That being said, If I were currently married and my wife asked me to wear something in the name of romance, I would do it in a heart beat... even if it was an article of clothing that didn't necessarily turn me on. Why? Because it would be an ACT of love on my part. Don't tell me you love me... show me!

Anyway, I myself am in the process of making up for my perceived 'social injustice' that caused me to be ridiculed for wanting to wear lingerie. In my world, the girly-girl of my dreams would be more girly-girl than me... if that's even possible!

[jacques]

I have been doing my bit for the cause for many years - but I cannot convince my dear wife about the joys of frillyness; I do help keep the sales profits up in my local shops.
luv J

[Melanie Moxon]

I doubt it, people either like something or they don't.

Personally I don't really have a lingerie fetish (you won't find me contributing to the panty threads), I prefer it to fit nicely and be comfortable after all it has a job to do when it is all said and done, but then dressing is linked to something deeper for me than just a desire to dress, it has taken me years to figure it out mind :straightface:

Look at it the other way if your wife were to start wearing sharp suits would it make you want to?

[Babbs]

Robbiegirl, You did something I never thought could be done, You made crossdressers look like male chauvinist pigs! lol

[JaniceP]

Baby dolls, lacy pastel slips, cute nylon panties & for me, I adore pastel pantygirdles.

All so pretty, girly and Feminine.

I also adore the Fem. sound of Petticoats while walking and when GG's see me smoothing my pretty skirt while I take a seat.:doll:

[*ROXY*]

What a load of self indulgent tripe. What lingerie a women chooses to wear is her choice. It might be comfortable, tiny, huge granny pants, no VPL. Underwear is predominantly that UNDERwear. With a lot of clothes women wear, what's on underneath impacts how it looks outside. Why would you wear ruffled back knickers with a pencil skirt unless you wanted odd lines ruining the look. Petticoats have their place with formal wear. If someone chooses to wear lacey, skimpy, scratchy (typically quite uncomfortable) underwear that's their choice but don't come out with all this "taking their femininity for granted" rubbish. Just in the same way women don't expect men to wear a well fitted suit and tie every day or CK boxers/briefs all the time.
The world does not revolve around your fantasies. Don't forget, if you have a partner/wife who is understanding about your dressing, remember that's a big thing and should not be taken for granted.
What women wear also is impacted by how they feel. If it's a certain time of the month they typically want to be comfortable, nothing too tight around their waist. If you are taking them out somewhere special then it's time to dress up a little fancier, that goes both ways. How many straight women want to have fun times in bed with their husband/partner romping about in a babydoll and thong ?
It all comes down to respect and common sense.

[CONSUELO]

Many here are forgetting how complicated female clothing could be. In the 1950's there were stockings (easily laddered), girdles (tight and often awkward), slips, voluminous dresses and so on and so on. A lot of fashion decisions were influenced by the masculine section of society. When women decided to wear pants the reaction was "horror". It took a major war and several decades to get over that taboo. People wear what is comfortable and easy to take care of and women are no different.

Lastly, for many of us dressing in feminine clothing has a strong fetish streak and that strongly colours our desires. While some of us might be happy to dress up as Scarlet O"Hara, women would just look on in horror.

The short answer is therefore NO AND HELL NO!

[Krisi]

OK, some pretty rude replies have been posted. I think what Robbiegirl (the OP) suggested is pretty wild and she may not have thought this out before posting, but at the same time, some people could have been a bit (a lot) more gentle in their disagreement.

Robbiegirl, my crossdressing hasn't changed the way my wife dresses and I don't expect it to. She was raised on a farm and wasn't allowed to wear sexy clothes, makeup, etc. Once she grew up and left that changed a bit but it's still part of her upbringing. She looks fine to me and that's what matters.

We shouldn't be trying to change the women in out lives any more that we would want them to try to change us.

[~Joanne~]

Really :Angry3: how about you wear what you want to and let us GGs decide for ourselves whether we want to wear frilly or not!

I agree with Sandra, maybe not the way she phrased it but the point of what she did say. We talk about how we have the right to wear what we want and our SO's should have that same right too. I wear what I want, she wears what she wants and we have no problems.

To be completely honest, if I went to my SO and said "ok, today your going to wear some pantyhose" and she went and put some on, I probably would be pissed at the fact that she did. That means she is letting me dictate things and we have never had that a day in our relationship. Now I wouldn't complain if she just did it on her own accord one day ;)

[LilSissyStevie]

I've read the OP several times and I'm still trying to find the part where it advocates the repeal of women's right to vote, to own property, to work outside the home, or to wear anything they damn well please. Our PC dystopia becomes ever more ridiculous. One has to work hard these days to find offense. The OP expressed a preference and somehow that oppresses women. LOL! Yes, people have a right to wear what they want, and others have the right to prefer they wear something else. As for myself, cruel oppressor that I am, I hate tattoos and piercings and would prefer others didn't have them so I wouldn't have to see them.

[Sallee]

that's a great idea But I don't think it will happen. but I want to be there when if it does.

- - - Updated - - -

that's a great idea But I don't think it will happen. but I want to be there when if it does.

[NicoleScott]

Flip the question: would women wearing men's clothing influence you to stop wearing lingerie? No.

[~Joanne~]

Do you REALLY expect women to give up the freedom to dress as THEY choose, in order to satisfy YOUR personal fetish? How arrogant and selfish of you.


I'm not going to dive deep into my story here, it would probably out me if the wrong people came around looking and reading for whatever reason but let's say Robbiegirl has a fetish for petticoats. Her wife/GF/SO knew about this fetish before they even started dating, might have even used that fetish to lure her in, does it make her arrogant OR selfish for her to want her SO to indulge her or feed that fetish every now and then? Is it that hard?! Does it really take that much effort?

[Kayliedaskope]

Question:
Are we helping get women back into frilly lingerie by wearing it ourselves?


Answer: No.



Case closed, it's Miller time.

[Glenda58]

No we're not helping women get back into frilly things. But the makers of them will keep making them as long as we buy them.

[ellbee]

IMO it is incredibly disrespectful to tell an adult how to dress themselves.

And yet, plenty of members' disapproving wives do that very same thing... :thinking:


So, just ape what some in this thread have done: Get pissed & tell 'em to bugger off.

Goose, gander, etc. :)

[ReineD]

No we're not helping women get back into frilly things. But the makers of them will keep making them as long as we buy them.

But, do they.

Look around any department store lingerie section. There are more plain, functional items than anything else.

[Thumbelina]

My wife is a 'girly girl' and it should come as no surprise that she loves the clothes, lingerie, and shoes I buy for her for birthdays, Christmas, anniversaries and whatnot.

[ShyLibrarian]

But, do they.

Look around any department store lingerie section. There are more plain, functional items than anything else.

The last time I saw a mainstream dept store with tons of lingerie was J C Penney, in Salem, New Hampshire, in 2000. I bought a couple of shortie half slips in black and white and sometimes wear one over panties, under my jeans - or lift it up over my bust to wear as a chemise/shemmy (but only for a few minutes for fun.

The runner up was a Sears store in Kingston Ontario, circa 2007, which gave me a few quivers and a couple of purchases. However, I was with a girl who was less supportive than the one I'd been with in Salem.

As to whether my partners wore or wear frillies, I find that it's relatively easy to persuade a female friend to wear stayups than it is to induce her to wear garter belts or girdles with straps, although have had more success with corsets:)

There's tons of frilly lingerie at EBay and elsewhere online - beautiful retro stuff for those of us who might like to dress as prairie wives:). However, there are always pitfalls to buying online, unless it's a known and trusted source. Hope this isn't too far off-topic

[ReineD]

... which gave me a few quivers and a couple of purchases.

I suspect that CDers are attracted to the items in lingerie stores that give them quivers. :)

Still, if you take an objective look around, you'll see that most items there are functional and not frilly/flouncy/sexy. Or, it could be that you think that every bra and panty is sexy, no matter how plain it is? When I look at a bra or a pair of panties, I just see something that is functional.

The OP referred to frilly peignoir sets. When I go to my local department store, most nighties I see are functional. I don't know many women who buy sexy peignoir sets just for for themselves. When my SO and I were first together, I did buy sexy lingerie but of course I wanted to appear sexy in his eyes and do anything I could to enhance his interest. You'll find though, that most relationships enter phases of comfort several years down the line, after the first flush of excitement has settled down.

[SabrinaEmily]

Not in my experience, though my wearing women's underwear did once inspire someone to start wearing men's underwear. And so we both got to feel happier in things that were supposedly wrong for our sex, but were right for us.


We really need to get women back into Frilly things !

We really need to get people into things they feel right in. :tongueout

[ShyLibrarian]

agree - mainstream stores sell mostly vanilla lingerie and one has to go to some place like Vic Secret at bigger mark-ups (which has always seemed phony to me). I much prefer being able to browse counter after counter in a large department store. (Target had a few nice panty sets before it got thrown out of Canada). I'm really into vintage lingerie - camiknickers, tap pants, granny knickers and their analogues, slips and half slips, waspies and push up bras. Of course, if I were caught by the wrong people I might get a good spanking - and what naughty boy wants a spanking. Not me.