Intimacy of Underwear

[Tamsin Secret]

For a long time now my dressing had progressed from not being a sexual thing to actually enjoying the femininity of it all without arousal. I think it's because I have had a lot more time to think about it and come to terms with who I am when I do what I do.

That was until.... Recently I got a couple of new bra's and Panties and some of the old feelings came flooding back.

I was slightly upset as I felt almost like I was invalidating all of the near history of new found femininity towards my dressing and retracted to more adolescent reactions to it.

Having thought more about it though I'm more inclined to think that I just haven't yet had the chance to process correctly a normal feminine feeling of excitement over new and intimate things such as underwear.

Being I've now progressed to improving my looks with make up and putting together outfits properly I think it was more an emotional reaction to how good they would make me feel wearing them and how pretty I could look in them rather than the old feelings of it being risky and naughty.

I've rambled on a bit but it's a serious thing for me.

Could new items of underwear stir similar emotions for GG's too?

Just my thoughts,

Tammy

[Lacey New]

I've been dressing for years and buying and then wearing new articles of intimate apparel is still a turn on. I can't speak for a gg, just me.

[Rayleen]

Tammy, it turns me on too, its normal when I buy a new sexy bra or intimate items and been dressing for quite a while.

[alwayshave]

Tamsin, every time I put on a girdle, same reaction.

[Zettie]

An insightful commentary. Thanks Tammy. I have had similar experiences. (Oh, by the way, You look great in your photo! Rockin the wig.)

All the best girl,
Zettie

[Stacy Darling]

I can't answer the question for a GG Tammy, but I have thought about my similar situation.

I do know for myself that when I have presented as a male, I have frequently dressed as a pretty sexy guy, wearing what I think to be stylish male clothing and underwear ( for a male anyhow ). So as a GM wearing beautiful male items I have had those feelings of excitement, risk and naughtiness.

My feelings when femme are similar yet more intense. Probably why I'm a Girl!

To me this seems to be very natural whether M, F or Other.

Just adding my ramble,
Stacy!

[Monique65]

While I can't speak for a GG, I can definitely relate to the thrill of slipping into a new undergarment. No need to feel guilty, that's all part of the experience.

[JustJoni]

Of course, not being a GG, I cannot speak for them. However, to try and set your mind a little at ease, I can relate an exchange I overheard between two GG's once upon a time when I was much younger.

My friend, his girlfriend, her female friend, and I were all waiting for another to arrive so we could go to the movies one Sunday afternoon. The girlfriend and her friend were chatting in the kitchen, and I now believe the girlfriend had her suspicions about me (in an accepting way), so she was sort of including me in the female chat. They were discussing a recent underwear purchasing event at the Victoria's Secret of old (this would have been 1991). They both spoke of how wonderful it felt trying on and checking out things that were so pretty, and flattering, and having the SA be so helpful and attentive to them. They both seemed to be completing each other's sentences, about just how wonderful buying pretty, well-fitting underwear was, until they ended the discussion with both of them laughing and saying at the same time how gorgeous new panties and bras were almost...orgasmic.

[Robertacd]

I'm more inclined to think that I just haven't yet had the chance to process correctly a normal feminine feeling of excitement over new and intimate things such as underwear.

Could new items of underwear stir similar emotions for GG's too?


Most GG's would say no, except for maybe lingerie they bought to wear for a special person or occasion.

In fact my wife finds bra and panty shopping a huge chore.

I had a girlfriend that said bra shopping was fun when she was 12, but not so much after that.

[Ginni]

When I'm wearing lingerie I feel very sensual. At first it is very strong than it diminishes but, it is always there. I love the feeling.

[Tracii G]

Robertacd
I think at lot of this is projection of what a CDer "thinks" is a feminine feeling.
I have always wondered what exactly is the turn on for some to wearing panties?
Is it the taboo factor or something else entirely?
Please don't take this the wrong way and to be honest I am kind of afraid to ask but I truly am curious because I have never read a thread that had a concise explanation.

[Krisi]

My wife buys new panties from time to time and it doesn't seem to affect her in one way or another. Basically, they are just underwear. Just something to hide the furry part.

[Pat]

I was slightly upset as I felt almost like I was invalidating all of the near history of new found femininity towards my dressing and retracted to more adolescent reactions to it.

Hey, you're a human being. Human beings are complex. They can have multiple motivations and can experience emotions that seem polar opposites both at the same time. (You can love something and hate it too. You can believe in something you know is wrong.) You're having a complex reaction -- accept it. If you feel one side of you has let the other down, forgive it. File it away so next time you can say, "Oh, I'm having that reaction again. How strange."

I do know women who have had strong reactions to intimate garments -- they were either projecting forward to being appreciated by another (even if imaginary) person or else they were just feeling Really Powerful and enabled. I had a friend who would put on the matching underwear before going into her big meetings so nobody could intimidate her in a business setting because she knew she was holding a trump card they couldn't see. Complex. ;)

[Isabella Ross]

Tamsin, you're being way too hard on yourself. Pretty undergarments are made to make people feel sexy and sensual. My wife feels sensual when she buys some pretty new underthings. So do I. What I want to know is why you feel this way...why do you think you shouldn't feel sexy and sensual? The fact is, you do. And given that, it's all good, don't you think?

[NancySue]

So, I asked my wife how she feels when she buys, wears lingerie. She shrugged her shoulders and said, “they’re clothes”. Comfort is her primary objective when buying clothes. She hasn’t worn hose for several years. 😕 Her definition of “comfort” and mine are completely the opposite. I’m thankful for her support.

[IleneD]

Tam,

I know of what you speak. Enjoying the tactile feel of women's clothing is one of the known phenomena of crossdressing. Factually, women's clothing is softer, of lighter and more sheer materials. It is more colorful and is creatively designed beyond that of men's clothing.
Having that feeling, even being aroused by it, is normal.
As for women enjoying the same sense, I truly believe the answer to be YES! That's why the clothes are made the way they are. First and foremost, their clothing is cut to fit their female GG bodies, AND made to accentuate that look. The lace, satins, silks and soft synthetics that go into women's clothing do indeed arouse the women who wear them. My wife (of 40 yrs) is NOT a girly-girl at all, so she doesn't fawn over clothing. But I've dated women in the past and known MANY who fairly prance and dance about in a new dress, enjoying the flow and feel. Ditto for lacy, silky underwear. Overall, for girls I think the tactile sense is attractive but I think THE LOOK of clothing ON THEM seems to excite them more.

One more note. I've been in panties 24/7 for a year and a half. I wear nothing else. I've gone to soft camisoles as undershirts and often wear my bra (or lacy bralettes ) even in Guy Mode. I've become so accustomed to wearing panties that I hardly notice them anymore. They're MY underwear. The same goes for when I wear a bra or cami; and I'm getting the same attitude about wearing my femme outer wear.
I think the shift from underwear being erotic excitement and fun to everyday underpants came about the time I realized that my femme self is the real Me. These are MY clothes; normal clothes that I SHOULD be wearing. As I realized that there was far more to my habit of wearing women's garments than mere hobby fun, the clothes themselves have become less glam, less erotic (not that I ever want to lose that feeling), and more casual.

[Robertacd]

Pose the question in the "Ask a GG" thread. You will see most GG's just are not as "into it" as we are.

[Pumped]

My wife just looks at me and shakes her head, and says, "it is just underwear!" Same with high heels which is really my hot button. She laughed one day and said, I get home and can not wait to take them off, you get home and can not wait to put them on!

[Tracii G]

What I deduce from all of this is its a projection of what a(CD) man "thinks" and not what a female would think.
I asked my second Ex wife on face book the question and she said "thats a crazy question its just underwear" why do you ask?
We discussed the topic and she said "you have friends online that get off sexually over underwear"?
I also asked her about matching bra and panty sets and how she felt about those and she said "sometimes a matching set is nice if you like the color or print pattern or lace". She said its just underwear again.
I also asked if sexy underwear made a woman feel empowered and she just sent laughing emojis and the words "no of course not".
So thats what I am left with straight from a womans mouth. YMMV I guess.

[CONSUELO]

I have the same reaction when I put on something new or even when I put on a piece of clothing that I have not worn for a long time and is particularly sexy.

For me transvestism and a fetish for certain clothing items is the norm. I don't worry about it. There is no "correct" way to be a cross dresser.

[Rollermiss]

I am thrilled to put on anything feminine that is new. Be it a pair of panties, a bra, or a new dress. I think it is the seeing if the thought in my head matches the real vision I see.

Kelsey

[docrobbysherry]

Finally the truth comes out! Altho countless pantie threads r posted here, few acknowledge their fetish for sexy under things.:sad:

Not my thing. I like Sherry's "sexy" stuff to show.:daydreaming:
But, thanks for your honesty Tamsin!:thumbsup:

[Tamsin Secret]

Wow, I don't feel alone! I also appreciate were all different so it's nice to hear everyones stories/opinions.

I get the fact that to some it's just functional, it's just underwear etc.

But....

A simple pair of cotton panties is functional and practical so if that's all that underwear is to people surely they would just have a draw full of those along with the matching functional bra. Why then would that same person also have other styles of underwear, traditionally related to anything other than being functional, if it made no difference to how they felt about wearing it?

Even if a GG was going out for the night unless they planned on getting naked at some point there would still be no reason to change the functional stuff to more pretty/racy versions and even then that sort of throws out the arguement of 'its only underwear' as the thought process must be 'i should wear this as it makes me look better' inherently then meaning you also feel better from the inside.

I'm not suggesting every person putting on nice undies automatically has to orgasm over them but, and even if it's just because they want to look nice, this must be driven by the thought it will change the 'normal' mindset of everyday functionality which in a scale can range from feeling slightly more attractive to all out sexual arousal.

Wow, perhaps I am thinking to much about all this :heehee:

[Tracii G]

I think the term "fetish" for a piece of clothing is the key here.

[Marianne S]

I remember a girlfriend of mine a number of years ago saying she "felt so sexy in her slip." So some GGs do have a reaction to wearing lingerie.

[jack-ie]

I agree w Tracii, Fetish is the key word. In the very early days of my dressing, I definitely had a panty/bra fetish. It was an extreme turn on for me but went away as I progressed to full dressing, makeup, etc. Fem became the mode I preferred, a natural mode, a relaxing mode. The "sexual" side of dressing has been replaced with the satisfaction of being the person I like to be.

[Gillian Gigs]

Through my personal journey, I have had similar feelings. I agree with Tracii G, 'I think the term "fetish" for a piece of clothing is the key here.'
The biggest reason why I started to underdress all the time was to get beyond the fetish that had developed in my life. A fetish is erotic,(causing sexual excitement, or desire), by its nature, and I didn't want that to rule my life. I am looking for the sensual,(of or connected with the body and the senses), in a nonsexual way kind of feeling. Can someone who once had a fetish toward something evolve to another plain, I believe it is possible, many here on this site CD without erotic feelings. In this journey I have not reached total success, but I have moved forward greatly in this arena. Trying on anything new is exciting regardless of what it is.

Regarding women, I can only comment on what I see and hear from my wife. Underwear is just that, under wear, which needs to be clean, in case you are in an accident. They can be pretty, and that can help make her feel good inside, but they are still just clothes. For her, pretty has more to do with color, pattern, or style, than fabric which is totally where I am at.

Intimacy is being with another person, being intimate with clothes makes it a fetish, my opinion. Don't beat yourself up over this, many of us started out that way and it has evolved, or is evolving into something else. You just have to persist and push on through to the other side.

[kayegirl]

I can only think about my darling first wife. Whenever she got a new item of clothing, and that includes night wear, day wear and underwear, she would do a small dance thing. So yes she did experience some forms of excitement.

[Stephanie47]

I just don't buy into the notion women think 'underwear is just underwear!' When I go to the children's department at JCPenny you have to pass through the women's lingerie section. The matching color panties and bras is very evident. The utilitarian beige and whites are against the back wall. Of course, there is the bridal white section for clothes that are made to be enticements for arousing male behavior. Perusing the bra and panty ads hitting my email in box suggests nothing more than a lot of artistic quality for the lingerie. Yes, my wife is into functionality: beige bra, white cotton panties. Ugh! Several years ago I was chastised by a GG for stating I liked to color coordinate my undergarments; panty, bra and slip. Maybe it's because I was raised in an era when lingerie/undergarments were used to get the guy interested in her. I still love donning an ensemble totally in red or pink, as well as sexy lacy black or white.

The statement made above suggests attractive lingerie makes a woman feel good. Ask her what that means.

[Tracy Irving]

Could new items of underwear stir similar emotions for GG's too?

I have never seen my wife get excited over a new pair of panties or a bra. The closest she came to showing any emotion at all was after I told her she was wearing the wrong size bra and we found her correct size.

[Isabella Ross]

I'll be sure to tell my wife that she's having a "fetish moment" when she can't wait to try on new bra and panties, or a new nightgown. Yes, I'll grant you that there are many of us who perhaps view our panty drawers with a surprising amount of sexual interest. But let's try to get some perspective. The OP was questioning her own sensual arousal at donning some pretty new bras and panties. While some underwear is utilitarian, it's often anything but. It's intimate clothing, and it's designed to look and feel sensual, and to inspire sensuality and intimacy. My fellow Canadian Gillian, who is usually very spot on in her comments, offered this above: "Intimacy is being with another person, being intimate with clothes makes it a fetish, my opinion. Don't beat yourself up over this, many of us started out that way and it has evolved, or is evolving into something else. You just have to persist and push on through to the other side." In other words, any type of sensual feeling derived from dressing is somehow wrong. Well, the moment I "push through to the other side", wherever that is, is the day I quit dressing.

[Nicole Erin]

Tamsin, you're being way too hard on yourself.
I agree


A simple pair of cotton panties is functional and practical so if that's all that underwear is to people surely they would just have a draw full of those along with the matching functional bra. Why then would that same person also have other styles of underwear, traditionally related to anything other than being functional, if it made no difference to how they felt about wearing it?

I'm not suggesting every person putting on nice undies automatically has to orgasm over them but, and even if it's just because they want to look nice, this must be driven by the thought it will change the 'normal' mindset of everyday functionality which in a scale can range from feeling slightly more attractive to all out sexual arousal. Wow, perhaps I am thinking to much about all this :heehee:

Cotton ANYthing is just functional and boring. the only article of undergarment that should be cotton is socks. I mean like the ones you wear with everyday tennies. Cotton underwear for men OR women are just "briefs".

For a bra though, I have like two or three. Two boring beige and one white. About as exciting as a pair of gym socks.

[Kendalli]

My wife has noticed the same thing with me. Whenever I get some new sexy women's underwear, I am suddenly a lot hornier than normal. She put it to a GG wearing a prom dress. But she can be the same way too with certain articles of clothes also.

[Tracii G]

I just don't buy into the notion women think 'underwear is just underwear!'

So what you are saying is the women that say its just underwear are lying?

[Pat]

I think women who say underwear is just underwear are totally telling the truth. And women who say it's more than that are also telling the truth. I don't think there's a single, correct answer. ;)

[susan54]

Though I have lots of underwear and some of it is what might be termed sexy, it ends up being just functional. Unless they are very skimpy panties are simply more comfortable than male briefs because they are less bulky. I wear panties about 350 days a year. Satin is all very well, but lace is uncomfortable and in the end I wear mostly cotton. I know a woman who runs a lingerie shop and there is no doubt at all that she loves elaborate underwear but I suspect she is in a small minority of GGs - I have never had a partner who was at all interested in underwear. I have read articles written by women where they claim to love the knowledge that underneath their everyday outfit they are wearing knock-em-dead underwear. Even for me, the underwear is functional in respect of my outerwear - it makes the dresses and tops look good and it is the overall look I like as well as the feel of the clothes - always - always - a dress or skirt. The clothes just look better with breasts and some bras make them look better than others but this is structural rather than how much satin and stuff is involved. I have gone to fitters several times and they always recommend a certain type of functional bra - and they always work.

[Littleg2]

First off, is the question rhetorical and just a musing of sorts?

For those that would like to know, here is my take from my own (GG) perspective... I would also like to add after reading the responses that included those asking a spouse, girlfriend, ex or other GG they know (or overheard), clearly you will get as many answers to your question as there are women in the world.

The question posed was “Could new items of underwear stir similar emotions for GG's too?”, and for me the answer is yes. It goes beyond just having clothes on, though, (new or not) it’s who is going to see them, what you’re going to do in them, how you feel in them. It’s reactionary. Like a talisman, it holds nothing unless you give it meaning to hold, and even then it is different from person to person. I think you’re right Tamsin, it’s an emotional reaction.

I, personally, do not own a single pair of plain, cotton briefs (The boring “granny panty” kind, or the ones women say they wear when it’s “that time of the month”, or laundry day, or what have you…). I never understood that logic and I would never want to be caught in something that I didn’t consider pretty, sexy, or flattering. I own probably close to 40 or so pairs of panties (I don’t like to call mine “underwear” and I’m trying to get my SO CD’er to stop calling them that as well -lol), and another 15 or so pairs that are straight lingerie that match with other bras, camisoles, teddy’s… whatever. All different colors, designs, styles and materials. When I wear them I am not aroused all the time, but if I am preparing for a date or special time with my SO, or a surprise when we’re out that I can use to tease with, it does excite me to know that what I am wearing will be a turn-on, and/or if *she* has something that will match, or play off what colors I have chosen, so we can both look hot together.

But as one poster said, it is about functionality (not sic). When I am at work, if I wear something considered hot or sexy, I often forget about it all together until I see it at some point later in the day. It’s only a “I’ve got a secret…”, power/sexy/risky/naughty kind of feeling when I plan it to be that, and put on something with that intended purpose. At work, I’m too serious about my job, surrounded mostly by men all day and don’t let my mind be unprofessional and go there. With my SO… different story… ;)

Regards,
-g

[Tamsin Secret]

Ok well the purpose of me posting has been served in that it has helped me channel my initial feelings of guilt for reacting so strongly to the new items.
What I'm understanding is that it's perfectly natural to have heightened feelings regarding these things and in time those feelings may or may not cool somewhat but as my experiences with them are so few and far between they will most likley still seem very intense for a while to come.

If I was wearing bra and panties everyday (regardless of style) then perhaps the experience would seem more of a process and therefore dull the excitement somewhat.

Bit seeing as I don't underdress and cannot dress frequently I need to accept and control what happens if/when it does.

I just want my experience dressing to be authentic and felt that the sexual undertone I experienced invalidated that i.e made it a fetish.

I can assure you it's not, Tamsin as I'm discovering, is a deep rooted part of me that is dying to be accepted in the real world.

Hugs all :hugs:

Tammy

[Isabella Ross]

Just a quick note to Littleg2 to express thanks for chiming in on this. Your views and those of my wife are in tandem, and I know there are more that feel this way. While some GGs in North America might be adopting more man-like intimate styles, that is anything but the case here in Europe, where high end lingerie stores are incredibly prevalent everywhere I've been.

[char GG]

I have never gotten excited over underwear. The prettier ones are usually the most uncomfortable. Just my opinion but I think CDers way over think this subject! Do men that don’t CD get excited about their underwear?

I do like an awesome sequin dress but not many places to wear that!

[Nikkilovesdresses]

but the case here in Europe, where high end lingerie stores are incredibly prevalent.

I've spent more money on lingerie over the last 40+ years than I care to contemplate, for myself and others, but I'm stunned by what people are willing (and able) to pay here in France. My local town has no less than 3 dedicated lingerie shops, and it isn't a very large town. Prices can be well over €100 for a bra, and almost as much for panties (that's even more in dollars). The fabrics and workmanship are superb, but who can afford more than the odd item at such prices? In Paris there are hundreds of these places, and shops offering bespoke lingerie at eyewatering prices.

Crazy world huh?


my darling first wife. Whenever she got a new item of clothing, and that includes night wear, day wear and underwear, she would do a small dance thing.

That has to be one of the most adorable things I've ever heard.

[Fiona123]

Putting on new panties or a new bra is a special and intimate personal experience for a crossdresser or trans woman. Its not invalidating at all. You are in touch with the sensuality of the experience. So much the better i say.

[Robin777]

If women didn't get a sensual feelings when getting new bras and panties, clubs like Adore Me where they send you a new bra and panty set every month would't be in existence. Some women and I am assuming younger women must find this a turn on. I know I still find it a turn on when I get a real sexy bra and pantie set or a sexy body shaper.

[gunta]

Are you geting sexualy aroused whilst dressing?

[Beverley Sims]

Underwear is made attractive so people will buy the garment.


Look at underwear for men and the accent on the bulge between the legs.

Yeah! Who would buy them, yes some big boys I know. :-)

[JeanTG]

I've always loved feminine underwear, in particular panties. Once in a while I go back into men's underwear for strategic/stealth reasons, but otherwise I wear panties 24/7. Some plain and comfy, some lacy, some in between. Most of the time it is all circumstances will allow me to wear, of a femme nature. I have some favourite panties for daily wear that are quite feminine and sheer. I have to admit, that while I don't have a *sexual* thrill from it, picking, and slipping into a fresh pair of panties in the morning, and installing a fresh panty liner (out of necessity, not choice...) is one of the highlights of my day, a real sensual treat. Of course, the border between "sensual" and "sexual" can be quite blurred at times...