Who here Beats there face?

[Lindabrown]

Does someone else Beat your face?

It's a question that will help me understand who is here and what you know.
Someone beat my face until I looked like a CatFish.

[Micki_Finn]

I’m sorry, are you TESTING us? Some girls here will understand, some won’t. Why does it matter?

[Tracii G]

You are leaving a bunch of information out of the equation.
Please explain.
Is there some subtle meaning in the word catfish?
Its almost like reading a coded message TBH.
If you did get your ass beat then why?
Did you fight back and make them look like a gar fish?

[Princess Chantal]

Beats their face? What do you mean by that?

[Micki_Finn]

It’s a slang term basically for applying makeup perfectly. Common among Drag queens, but becoming common in the general beauty world. Comes from the daubing/patting motion associated with putting on makeup.

What’s my prize?

[Tracii G]

They come up with some weird slang terms these days.
Why not speak English is my question.

[Princess Chantal]

Thanks Micki, I initially took it as someone with gender dysphoria possibly depressed with their appearance and/or lack of skills physically abusing theirselves (like cutters and etc).

[Micki_Finn]

They come up with some weird slang terms these days.
Why not speak English is my question.

It kinda makes sense if you think of it in terms of “I DEFEATED my ugly man face and now have created an attractive woman’s face”

Slang is always pretty wild but is it really any weirder than “Cool”, “Groovy”, or “Gnarly”?

[MarinaTwelve200]

I get inconsistent results. Sometimes it's near perfect, and others it looks really bad, like a painted up "old lady".

[Tracii G]

Micki I get what you are saying and it is just slang and I guess 20 somethings talk like that and know what that meant.
I learned a new slang term today so thats OK.
I do beat my face with a sponge and it seems to work getting the make up where it needs to go but I do brush and blend it after beating my face. LOL
I'm sorry it just sounds funny to me. :)

[Ressie]

It's a question that will help me understand who is here and what you know.

I've had a dislike for slang for a long time now. I don't apply makeup often enough to use advanced techniques that drag queens use.

[Stephanie47]

First time I have ever heard the phrase. Hopefully the last time too! I have no idea how this will help you understand who is here and what they know. I have a seventeen year old daughter who helps me with translations sometimes. At my advancing age I always thought I had seven decades of life experience to pass on to my kids and grandchildren. Guess grandpa has been left in the dust on this one.

[Tracii G]

I agree slang seems senseless at 65 years of age.
I gave up saying groovy,Far out back in the early 80s Gnarly was always a West Coast term anyway so it didn't apply in my area,
Say what you mean and mean what you say makes more sense than anything.
If you want to be understood universally give up on the slang terms.

[Lana Mae]

I do not follow the latest slang but if that is what it means then..yes, my last effort was done with a sponge applicator but the powder was applied with a brush! I think it looks good for my amateur skills! Humbly Hugs Lana Mae

[Vickie_CDTV]

I figured it was some term for self harm. Or, perhaps something to do with Beats headphones since the b was capitalized.

[Tracii G]

Just a new fangeled way of saying something so it sounds like something else.

[MarinaTwelve200]

Another term is "Bake your face"---not quite sure what THAT means

[Lindabrown]

The general population has been stealing a lot of slang terms from*dragqueens lately. From “throwing shade,” to “serving realness,” we ladies love our gay slang, apparently. ... In the*dragqueen world, to “beat your face”*meansto put on a large amount of makeup to contour*your face.

If you don't know*your*beauty hashtags or insider terms, you may hear that someone has a "beat face" and immediately start to worry about that person's safety. But "beat face" is actually a term that's been used for decades in the beauty industry to describe perfectly done makeup.

Stipple on makeup in layers,pat on makeup layers

Allure fashion magazine
https://www.allure.com/story/beat-face-meaning

Urban /hipster English




Beats their face? What do you mean by that?

Catfish makeup below

[Tracii G]

Kind of childish really.
Hipster is pretty much out of style I guess because I never see hipsters anymore.
Heck I'm gay and I didn't even know all that slang LOLOL.
Have to give that one the Zorro Snap
https://youtu.be/kp68bcN7N8Q

[docrobbysherry]

I found the only way to "beat my face" was to cover it up completely!:doh:

There r other advantages besides defeating my old, homely male face:

No one who hasn't met me dressed in person knows what I look like or that I CD.:daydreaming:
I put my face on in 10 seconds.:battingeyelashes:
I save a fortune in make up and remover costs.:D

[paulaprimo]

Yep, the last one to beat my face was someone else!

i cudda been a contender,
i cudda been somebody,
instead of a bum,
which is what i am... faghettaboutit! ;)

[Lindabrown]

Hippsters are in WestlaKE CALIF.,DOWNTOWN LA CALIF., and now some parts of West Hollywood CALIF.

[Beverley Sims]

Well, the information here does mean that I learn something new every day.

An interesting thread as it drew people out to comment either way.

Miki, you get my award for explaining the question.

For me I dab and fluff with powder after.

I think I used to trowel it on years ago.

No, that did not work.

Less is better for me.

[Lindabrown]

the slang as meant for people in the clique/SMALL CLUB.it's cliqueish!
IT'S SO PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT IN YOUR SOCIAL GROUP WON'T UNDERSTAND.
once others outside your group understand what your saying ,you change the slang term to something else.

for example if i say i beat everybody's face into a catfish you think i am saying something violent and bad when I am actually saying I make them look prettier then they did before.

cd clique
dq clique
ts clique



Thanks Micki, I initially took it as someone with gender dysphoria possibly depressed with their appearance and/or lack of skills physically abusing theirselves (like cutters and etc).


It kinda makes sense if you think of it in terms of “I DEFEATED my ugly man face and now have created an attractive woman’s face”

Slang is always pretty wild but is it really any weirder than “Cool”, “Groovy”, or “Gnarly”?

[Ressie]

Drag queens spend an awful lot of time putting on makeup and it's interesting to see how they do it. It's a big part of what they do for a living. I don't have that amount of free time for beating my face!

Sounds like it's terminology of their profession more than slang. Anyway, if it's meant to exclude communicating with others that aren't part of your group, it's just one thing I don't like about slang.

If it's terminology of the trade that's another thing. There's no need for me to understand it because I'm not a pro drag queen.

[Rhonda Darling]

Ok, so now this group has a useless slang term that further diminishes the strength of the English language's ability to precisely explain things. But Linda, you still have not explained why you chose to capitalize the word "Beat". Please do so as I, and I presume others here, are still somewhat confused.

[Dr.Susan]

Somebody has been watching Rupaul's Drag Race I think.

[NicoleScott]

Linda, I'm glad you returned to define your term, but still unexplained is why it is capitalized. Use of a term not known to most of us really brought out the word police.
To the topic: as defined, yes I do - or did. While it was still available, I loved Max Factor Pancake makeup. Using a wet makeup sponge, I worked up some makeup on the sponge and dabbed it on my face, in layers until achieving the desired look. Why the heavy makeup? Beats me - haha. No really, I need it and I like it.
I liked Panstick, too. Now, liquid works OK for me. Getting older makes it harder to get the look I liked when younger. Oh well.

[Allisa]

Drag queen terms? Why didn't you just ask if there were any queens on this forum? Short and simple. If you want to be cliquish go back to high school.

[Micki_Finn]

Marina: “Baking” is a term for a makeup technique in which you allow your foundation and concealer to sit on your face for a while so the heat from your skin can smooth and even out the finish.

Linda: if the purpose of slang is to be a secret language for the cool kids, then Google is the most uncool kid ever.

[Tracii G]

Well Linda you not being out of high school all that long cliques might still seem cool to you but you will grow out of that phase.
You will be surprised at the change in your attitudes and what you feel is important by the time you get to 28.

[Meghan4now]

Linda,

I think that technique and knowledge of various makeup techniques here is quite varied. I was pretty sure I knew what you were talking about, and appreciate the further explaination. And yes I typically use stippling, especially with setting powder. The use of the term catfish is a bit off color here, and can be taken the wrong way, as would be the term trap.

I think that perhaps you are trying to flush out if certain subcultures within the great big world of TV/TS/TG/CD/drag are well represented here. I think you will find a few that get the whole Paris is Burning thing here, but not a lot. I have found what some terms pass for playful or constructive competition in some subcultures, can appear as mean spirited or arrogant to others. It's partially a matter of perspective.

Around here, there is such a huge diversity, it would be easier to not get too caught up in slang terms. Good luck sweetie!

[Tracii G]

I agree Meghan. The members here are from all ends of the spectrum more so than any other CD site I have been on over the years.
Its best to just come out and say what you mean rather than use slang terms that all may not be aware of.
If you are searching for people you connect with then browse the meet up section.
Last night I asked a drag performer friend of mine what beating your face meant and she laughed and said had I been watching RuPal's drag race?
I told her I have never watched it just clips on you tube, just way too catty for me.
She did say it was a layering make up term that had been used for 20 years or so.

[Teresa]

Linda,
Ok some of us didn't get it, if you think because we are more mature ( OK getting old !) it goes over our heads, don't forget we've all been your age and played these games .
I don't care what terms you give for putting on makeup but I'm not a drag queen so I apply it for everyday now , the lesson I'm having to learn is how little to apply for everday .

[Micki_Finn]

cd clique
dq clique
ts clique

Lol. These are not “cliques” these are demographic groups. I can’t wait for the next census when I get to tell them I’m in the “Asian clique”

[Tracii G]

Cliques are for stuck up people that think they are all that and a bag of chips.
I dare you to figure that one out.

[Kelly DeWinter]

" It's a question that will help me understand who is here and what you know."

Some cans are best left un-opened.

You will find a very large and diverse group here, including a few who could teach makeup from fishy to busted. So if you are looking to serve tea on your paint, be careful on how you open your library.

(I do so love watching Ru Paul!"

[Rhonda Jean]

I know what it means. If this is a litmus test for who can hang with the cool kids, count me out.

[Ressie]

Stipling is an artist technique mostly used with pen and ink. It seems if one used that technique on their face it would create freckles!

[Meghan4now]

Good one Kelly. I, for one, am not into throwing shade, or rocks. I'm old enough to worry about throwing out my back!

Ressie, that certainly is the original source of the term, but it has evolved. Ironically(?) The term is also used to describe a mudding technique for putting on a textured finish on dry wall or plastering. It builds up the coat and is often used on ceilings to hide shoddy seams. Oh so manly!

In makeup, it helps to avoid smearing or loosing coverage. It can be very useful in effective beard coverage. But be careful not to go too heavy, or you can get orange peeling.

Linda dear, come on back an join the party!

[Lindabrown]

The girl mask clique is all that and a bag of chips.

This is a CD clique that's Members Only but there are some TV's that are not CD's who only wear women's clothing and do not shave,wear makeup,use wigs ect.. ,

Toe may toe,toe mot toe,tomato
Who cares


A major magazine talks about Beating your face below

Stipple on makeup in layers,pat on makeup layers

Allure fashion magazine
https://www.allure.com/story/beat-face-meaning

Urban /hipster English,drag queen English, I fabulous English


Cliques are for stuck up people that think they are all that and a bag of chips.
I dare you to figure that one out.

So why are you in this CD Clique?

- - - Updated - - -

When that phrase gets entered in the dictionary you will know how popular it is then it will be part of the popular English language and not just with subgroups.
Call Allure Magazine silly will you?
It's a mainstream publication.



Ok, so now this group has a useless slang term that further diminishes the strength of the English language's ability to precisely explain things. But Linda, you still have not explained why you chose to capitalize the word "Beat". Please do so as I, and I presume others here, are still somewhat confused.

[Tracii G]

I'm not in a clique and never have been.

[Ressie]

Thanks for sharing this topic Linda. There's nothing wrong with learning something :)

[NicoleScott]

I describe how I apply makeup as I dab it on my face (as opposed to wipe or rub), but now dab has taken on a new meaning. Can I still use dab? Saying I Beats my face just doesn't work for me.

[Meghan4now]

Reminds me of another member from LA, Reinasblack.

[Lindabrown]

Why you Throwing Shade about my presumed age?
Spread love,it's the LA way!
..

Throwing Shade

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Throw+shade&amp=true

[Tracii G]

Very observant Meghan.

[Lindabrown]

Oh! Please. ....
I am not a Shade Tree MUA.

[t-girlxsophie]

Still dont "get" what the original post was about,but Its hardly worth getting ones knickers in a twist over it like some have

[Kelly DeWinter]

To answer the OP question . Sometimes, although i also like to do my own.

Linda when you said:

"It's a question that will help me understand who is here and what you know."

Maybe if you would elaborate on what you looking to understand about members here and what is important about what others know ?

When you joined you did not really say what brought you to the forum or much about yourself.

Sometimes people join the forum and stick around , other times people stir the pot until they are asked to "Sashay Away". It's always nice when new members stick around.

Within the GLTB ( and many more letters ) the lingo meaning of words and terms are very fluid and what is 'fly' now in 15 years will probably be of interest to verbal archaeologists.

[Lindabrown]

go back to the original post and read it thoroughly then go down a few post and read my reveal and see the picture that's worth a 1000 words. read it in CONTEXT with what I said in the OP.


here is a hint; go too post #1 ,#41,#24 and #18,#5 ,use the Urban Dictionary and the Allure magazine link/url with the defintion if you have to. use the Top Definition of beat face/beat your face

it's easy like a sunday Morning.


Still don't "get" what the original post was about,but Its hardly worth getting ones knickers in a twist over it like some have

there is NO "cool Kids" in drag,CD,DQ,TV and TS culture

[Kelly DeWinter]

This has become one of those "it depends on what your definition of 'is' is" conversations.

[Krisi]

They come up with some weird slang terms these days.
Why not speak English is my question.

Yes. If you are going to ask a question and expect answers, use plain English, not slang or code words.

[Kelly DeWinter]

Krisi;

"use plain English" is a whole different can of words.

Do you mean United Kingdom English, Irish English,American English,Australian English, or Canadian English ?

New worlds and meaning enter language every year, Anyone who watches Ru Paul or attends CD/TG events will pick up such terms.

Some like the OP might use the terms in their everyday social group.

Years ago , I lived in southern California and started surfing, I had to pick up Valley Speak just to meet people my own age.
Consider the following, which could be heard in just about any pub in England , arguably the most English speaking country in the world:

"Bloody hell mate! A fortnight ago I was down the local having a chin-wag with this fit bird, feeling pretty chuffed with myself, when some dodgy-looking bloke came up and started getting lairy with me. I don't know what he was on about; I thought he was taking the piss, but he wouldn't stop giving me aggro. I reckon he must have been off his tits. Next thing I knew the Old Bill had shown up and nicked this geezer before he could scarper. What a load of ********!"

[jamienoir]

I kind of do. It makes a big difference. I used Mehron and Black Opal for foundation and contouring. I then use or beat banana (Ben Nye) and translucent powder in.

[Lindabrown]

Krisi when slang words get popular like Beat your Face and Instagram Catfish makeup they get entered in to the Dictionary. Duh!

It can be used as a Verb are a Noun!

It's all just English, Latin and different languages mashed up together.
The great melting pot!

Deal with it else with the same reasoning why don't you just dress like a man,grandfather, uncle,father,dad ....
Same argument can be put forth on you and your expensive hobby of cross dressing.


Yes. If you are going to ask a question and expect answers, use plain English, not slang or code words.

[Kelly DeWinter]

Linda;

Please be careful that you don't cross the unwritten line of insulting members. When you post a thread its easy to take offense when someone questions why you've written a post or why you uses a certain verbage. The moderators here do a wonderful job of keeping posts from becoming a flame war.

You may want to edit your last post.

I find questions like this interesting because different generations see things in a different light.

A lot of people here when they think of Dictionary, they think of Websters Dictionary which takes years and an act of Mystical Intervention to change a words meaning or add a new word.

Some of the newer members when they think of Dictionary , think of The Urban Dictionary and Wiki page as the definitive source for Language.

Using terms like "Duh!" and "Deal with it" and phrases "Same argument can be put forth on you and your expensive hobby of cross dressing." come across as rather heated.

Remember it's your post, you set the timber for how people respond.

[Rhonda Jean]

Krisi when slang words get popular like Beat your Face and Instagram Catfish makeup they get entered in to the Dictionary. Duh!

It can be used as a Verb are a Noun!

It's all just English, Latin and different languages mashed up together.
The great melting pot!

Maybe I misinterpreted the OP. I took it as being less about makeup and more about finding out if anyone was as cool as she is, she being the one who apparently knows all the latest and coolest lingo. The inference is that we probably aren't as cool as she is.

Linda, when you challenge people in that way, you invite challenge. Such as for how you randomly capitalize words within a sentence, or how you refer to "Latin and different languages" when there is no Latin or different language in any of your statements. Even your location seems a little boastful, although I may be misinterpreting that, too. I take it that "1%'er" is supposed to impress us as to your financial status. Likewise, I guess, with "Hollywood Hills". I'm not at all sure about "Mount Sac". Google only took me to a Junior College with that search.

I guess it's not what you said, but how you said it that kind of got everybody's panties in a wad. Maybe you meant it differently. That's the trouble with brief posts on an internet forum. They can take on an unintended meaning. So, if what you meant was "Who here stipples on their makeup?" I totally took it wrong. BTW, I don't but maybe I should try it.

[Lindabrown]

Well
Beat face & Instagram catfish/catfish makeup are in the dictionary also main stream fashion magazines use the word beat your face/beat face and talk shows use Instagram catfish.

I was upset that there was Condescending attitude about my age and my English skills/language skills. So I defended it by let you know that those terms are used now in main stream society and defined in the dictionary.

Actually I was looking to find out where people are in there makeup journey to find your Feminine self.
In the cutting edge makeup business those terms are used in shows and events.

Here is another term Fleek.
Your eyebrows are on Fleek.

On fleek or not, fleek is a word worth knowing. Born* in a Vine video on June 21, 2014, the term fleek is a busy word. It was originally (and still is most commonly) applied to perfectly-groomed eyebrows, but the word has been used to describe everything from hash browns to skateboards.
Fleek Meaning and History | Merriam-Webster
Merriam-Webster › words-at-play › fleek

PEOPLE ALSO ASK
What does it mean when your on fleek?
Just as the world at large was catching up with “bae,” the new slang term crossing Vine, Instagram, et al. has taken hold of the Internet. Enter “on fleek.” “On fleek” dates back to at least 2003, when its Urban Dictionary definition was created. It defines the term as “smooth, nice, sweet.”

Catfish is pretty obvious from the Instagram Catfish before and after photos.
The term came from Instagram and dating sites because people always look best on there Instagram photo using poses,makeup,soft lighting and more...

[colleen ps]

Consider the following, which could be heard in just about any pub in England , arguably the most English speaking country in the world:

"Bloody hell mate! A fortnight ago I was down the local having a chin-wag with this fit bird, feeling pretty chuffed with myself, when some dodgy-looking bloke came up and started getting lairy with me. I don't know what he was on about; I thought he was taking the piss, but he wouldn't stop giving me aggro. I reckon he must have been off his tits. Next thing I knew the Old Bill had shown up and nicked this geezer before he could scarper. What a load of ********!"

Finally! Someone who speaks my language LoL.

Sorry, nothing useful to say here. I find it hard enough understanding my own son sometimes.

[Kelly DeWinter]

Linda;

The problem with copying and pasting information from the internet, is that some geeky people don't trust copy and paste information.

If you Google "Fleek" there are references dates prior to June 21 2014 such as:
This One (https://www.bustle.com/articles/55940-what-does-on-fleek-mean-a-brief-timeline-of-the-phrase-that-no-one-really-understands) on the topic of the word written by a research journalist.

Terms such as "on fleek","beat face" are constantly being written about by magazines such as Allure which write articles on popular makeup terms like this article
18 New Beauty Slang Words You Need to Know (https://www.allure.com/story/beauty-slang-words)

There are many members here who do not include makeup on their journey to find their Feminine selves.

Some questions for you if you don't mind:
. Why do you find knowing the most current terms in shows and events important ?
. Do you attend makeup shows and events ?
. Do you think its possible to have a makeup artist do your or anyones makeup with or without urban dictionary terms ?
. How would you describe how a CD or TG could get their desire across to a makeup artist ?
. Are there any terms you think are nonsense ?

Respectfully

Kelly

[Lindabrown]

This paragraph Say's it below from Allure magazine.

"
The drag community has done this for ages, which makes sense because they're always light-years ahead when it comes to makeup techniques.
"

I do not want to look like a
dodgy-looking bloke.


If you don't shave and use makeup
your likely a TV and not a CD,TS,DQ. Showgirl,showgirl,...

[Kelly DeWinter]

Shakes head sadly ......

Seriously ? I think you are putting the cart before the horse. Women GG's have been leading the makeup technique far far longer. The makeup houses Revlon, Mary Kay, CoverGirl, Mabeline have been around longer then the Drag Community.

The Drag Community have only recently come in vogue.

The basis of drag makeup is theatrical makeup mainly ballet where contouring started over 100 years ago.

As far as
"If you don't shave and use makeup
your likely a TV and not a CD,TS,DQ. ..."

you really don't know much about the community to make a statement like that or you just say things to invite ridicule.

[Lindabrown]

It use to be illegal to Masquerade(crossdress an arrestable offense )and still is in some places but not enforced
The drag community has been coming up with cutting edge techniques for ages.
Much fashion and makeup techniques comes from the LGBT community.

There are still Stealth TS models in the Mainstream fashion and makeup industry.
There are still few industry that has little discrimination and no Glass Ceiling.
I live in the community.

[Kelly DeWinter]

Some places, meaning outside of the US ? In the united states there has not to my knowledge or a quick search of the internet anyone arrested for crossdressing since the 1970's (I'll admit i could be wrong)

Again the drag community uses makeup, but i would not call it cutting edge, not much has changed since the 1970's, the only real change has been the use of prognostics for breast,hip and butt enchantment, but even those changes were pioneered by the plastic surgeons for GG's .

If anything TG use of makeup is the tail that wags the dog.

Now you are adding fashion. to the mix. Yes there are many GL in the Fashion Industry but is arguable on how much comes from the community.

And just because you live in a community, doesn't mean you have the definitive say in whats what. We can all learn from the past and the present.

What you call beat, someone else may call stippiling or blending. In the end it's not new or different.

[Lindabrown]

Factual analysis

Fact is your wrong because people get arrested for

Cross dressing even today.
Sometimes it's under a pretext like indecent exposure, using the wrong restroom,disorderly conduct,........


The article stated the fact that many new makeup techniques came from drag culture(basically drag pageants/Ballroom culture).

There are famous TS who have pioneered makeup techniques and hair techniques like the Transsexual from Real housewives of Atlanta.

There are magazines dedicated to discussion of issues with TG and law enforcement, TG and jobs,TG and discrimination and more.look at all the law suits filed by the ACLU, LGBT communities ,and other non profits about TG issues. Check the Advocate magazine,the Guardian.

There is talented TG's still being discovered that raise the beauty Bar threshold.

The police enforce laws that are problematic when there trying to harass ,intimidate,bully and dissuade people.

Beating your face is heavy contouring from all angles and blended smoothlty. Most GG women don't do heavy contouring.they don't need it cause they have ample fat in there faces to smooth it caused by Estrogen.

[MiniRock]

I've had a dislike for slang for a long time now.

Well said Ressie! It's an interesting contrast to find people here who are so out-of-the-ordinary being very conservative about other aspects of life. Well spoken English says as much about the speaker himself/herself as about the subject.

[Kelly DeWinter]

Linda;


Please understand that the only issue i suggested is that your facts are not supported by...... well actual facts.
Lets break it down...


Real Housewives aired first in 2008
Contoured makeup was used In the 16th century, contouring was used by Elizabethan stage actors, who would apply chalk and soot to their faces to help audience members read their facial expressions (check wikipedia) And yes it was heavy.


The current use of new products using 16th century techniques is not new. Another fact that should change your outlook is that portrait painters used the same techniques in painting a picture. Blending,contouring and highlighting have been around for centuries.


Claiming Blending,contouring and highlighting as a pioneered technique is as ridiculous as opening a window and 'discovering' the sky is blue.


I'm not sure where TG law enforcement and law suits have to do with blending makeup so I'll just assume its a side issue for you.


Since in your other posts you prefer the Urban Dictionary, your notion that GG do not beat their faces is also dodgy at best:


Urban Dictionary
Basically, the make-up artist uses to say I'm going to put make-up on your face.
Client: My face needs some make-up


Its nice to THINK that the TG community has invented something unique but I prefer to stick with things the community has made strides in, such as gender equility.
Yes there are countries where its against the law for a man to wear women's clothing, in most western countries that is no longer the case.


Are there individual cops who still think in terms of the 1950's and 1960's yes, there are a lot of people too. Is it right ? no, but just like racists, time eventually removes them from society.

[Lindabrown]

Transgender model Amiyah Scott set to join Real Housewives of Atlanta cast as replacement for NeNe Leakes
By Zoe Nauman For Dailymail

Transgender model Amiyah Scott is a pioneering celebrity makeup artist and weave master who has made a name for themselves.

I do not just use the urban dictionary.
I only refer to the urban dictionary to help others understand the jargon used and in the community.
I used the urban dictionary to figure out the British
or UK English slang example in discussion #54
By Kelly DeWinter View Post


Your inventing statements I never typed are said.
As I said before Allure magazine and its editors stated that Drag makeup is always in the forefront of makeup techniques and discovery.
Guess what! Transgender model Amiyah Scott came from Ballroom culture and ts beauty pageants to become a celebrity makeup artist who is a TS and Now a celebrity known for there impeccable makeup and also stealth hair weave skills around the globe.a real trend setter.

I really tired of typing to answer and refute your statements that just go around in circles.

Allure magazine said it and there editors checked the info for for factual accuracy. Allure magazine is a main stream magazine.Allure magazine has been around for almost 30 years with a circulation of more then 1 Million and countless awards.
People should believe Allure magazine a main stream publication over you! Kelly DeWinter.


Micki and Marina understood the jargon and wanted the prize and many others in this thread

[Ressie]

Yes, the art Masters of the Renaissance period used all of these techniques in their paintings. And it probably started during the Middle Ages. I would guess that the same techniques were used in makeup centuries ago. The products have obviously improved in this age which makeup artists have utilized to create improved and different kinds of facial art.

[Kelly DeWinter]

Ressie;

Some of the Renaissance and Middle Age artists were also the first photoshoppers. Their subjects often had smallpox,acne,warts and all kinds of other scars.


Linda;

No need to get your knickers in a twist. This is a forum and people discuss things. It's not a matter of who to believe or not. I frankly don't mind whether anyone believes me or not, it's more about contributing to an ever expanding discussion. You stated some things that are simply an opinion based on well .... someone else's opinion.

Magazine like Allure are hardly indepth sources of research. They are devoted to one thing. Selling products, in the case of allure their advertisers sell make up, so its only natural that they would write fluff articles to fill in the spaces between advertisements. In order to stay relevant with their clients, the people who buy make up.

If you want a real innovative makeup artist look at some of the work of Mathu Anderson who is arguably the most innovative Make Up Artist. His clients include RuPaul and many others.

[Lindabrown]

I think
Sutan Amrull aka Raja Gemini
Is the better makeup artist I had talked to his agent to book him for an event.

He pulls off different ethnicities, different culture looks, classic looks and more

[Kelly DeWinter]

ROFL , you prove my point the 3rd photo in your post, the make up was done by Mathu Anderson

[Lindabrown]

No Raja Gemini did his own makeup.

All those 3 photos are of the same person.

He is a Chameleon

[GretchenJ]

Since this thread , which was thinly veiled as a makeup thread but had other wink wink overtones to it has since morphed into a discussion on language particularly slang, plus is being somewhat condescending, it is now closed