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Krisi
04-20-2018, 08:33 AM
I had a thought last night wondering if it would be possible to go to a hypnotist and be hypnotized to act like a woman? Walk like a woman, talk like a woman, sit like a woman, etc..

These things can be learned I suppose, but with great concentration and effort. Being hypnotized would seem much easier.

Stacy Darling
04-20-2018, 08:47 AM
What type of woman would we end up as though, and would I have any boundaries? The more I think about this the scarier it is!

And I only believe in science!

I'm going to stick with doing it my way! the hard wired way!
Stacy!

NicoleScott
04-20-2018, 10:05 AM
Not all women walk, talk, and sit the same way, and some in a not so feminine manner. A hypnotized man would most likely appear to be an over-the-top stereotype of an effeminate man.

sometimes_miss
04-20-2018, 10:54 AM
The only thing it may result in, is you're behaving as YOU think women behave. Especially since you don't have the proper anatomy, there's no way to give you some magic thoughts that will instantly make you appear to be behaving physically exactly as a GG does. Besides, right now one of the biggest tells is going just a little too far over the top, and accentuating stereotypical female movement TOO much, which just quickly draws the attention of the eye and makes you even more likely to be examined critically for anything else that might indicate that you're not what you appear to be.

Beverley Sims
04-20-2018, 11:27 AM
I am not sure hypnotism works as we imagine.

I was supposedly hypnotised on stage years ago and I do not remember anything that happened whilst under the trance.

Joyce Swindell
04-20-2018, 12:28 PM
The first thing when it comes to being hypnotized, I understand< is you must believe it's possible. I would love to be hypnotized for some different things...starting with a mindset of being female. I would prefer a partner that would use a trigger word/words. How cool would that be!??!? I'm too cheap to buy all any of the hypnotic downloads or CD's from websites (like warpmymind.com) but I've tried some of the free stuff and it does have some effect but you have to be religious for doing them consistently.

Micki_Finn
04-20-2018, 12:37 PM
My understanding is that the jury is still out on the effectiveness of hypnosis for long term behavioral modification. Or to put it another way, we only know that hypnosis works WHILE you’re under, so unless you want to remain in a hypnotic state forever...

There are stories of people using hypnosis for weight loss or smoking cessation, but we only have anecdotal evidence there.

To be honest, I don’t know that I WANT someone tinkering with my unconscious thoughts. I think I’d rather attend a “finishing school” to learn that kind of stuff.

Tracii G
04-20-2018, 12:50 PM
A friend went to a hypnotist to quit smoking and it seems he did quit.
We both quit within the same month in 2016 and I just did it cold turkey which wasn't hard.
I paid nothing and he paid $250 so if you think it will work go ahead.
Personally I would not like someone to manipulate my thoughts with trigger words and cause me to do things with out my knowledge.

Robertacd
04-20-2018, 01:10 PM
The problem is even if it works, women have been women all their lives. So they naturally act like women.

Without a lifetime of subcontiously acting like a woman, how does your subconscious mind know how to act like a woman?

So as Nicole said before, you would probably just end up looking like an man trying to act like a woman.

carolyn todd
04-20-2018, 03:18 PM
I am going to do a frank Sinatra and do it "MY WAY".

Carolyn

Joyce Swindell
04-20-2018, 04:19 PM
I wouldn't care about anyone elses thoughts or perspectives because the experience would be real to me

docrobbysherry
04-20-2018, 05:14 PM
I am going to do a frank Sinatra and do it "MY WAY". Carolyn
I don't think that will work either, Carolyn. I remember old blue eyes quite well. Don't recall him ever doing a realistic female presentation. Or, ANY female impersonations for that matter!:daydreaming:

kimdl93
04-20-2018, 05:22 PM
Perhaps you might be hypnotized to emulate a woman in the same way that some have been hypnotized to emulate a chicken....probably about as authentic and convincing. But I'm only speculating, give it a try and report back.

Taylor186
04-20-2018, 05:26 PM
Can they hypnotize me to be better looking (and shorted and lighter) when crossdressed?

[edit] oh yeah, and much younger.

Tracii G
04-20-2018, 05:39 PM
Physically no Taylor but they can make you "think" you are LOLOL.

OMG I can't imagine being hypnotized and think I would look good in a pair of Daisy Duke shorts and a tube top.LOLOL.
I certainly don't have the figure for that and to go out and actually think it looks good would be mortifying.

Ressie
04-20-2018, 10:03 PM
To me, hypnosis is truly believing something that isn't true. Most of us believe things are true without really knowing the complete truth. We can investigate, study, and search for the truth about something and still not know for sure.

If you truly believe you are a woman you will more than likely act like one including mannerisms, speech etc.

Suzie Petersen
04-20-2018, 11:49 PM
Tracii G: to go out and actually think it looks good would be mortifying.
Yes .. to others maybe, but not to you!! That's the beauty of the hypnosis ;)

Tracii G
04-21-2018, 12:00 AM
Yes to others is what I meant Suzie.

SabrinaEmily
04-21-2018, 07:48 AM
Like Debbie Harry sang, I walk like me. And Debbie Harry's a woman, so problem solved, at least as far as walking.

More seriously, these hypnosis fantasies just seem like another way of rationalizing that one doesn't want something that's perceived to be socially unacceptable to want. "I wish I could be forced into it."

MarinaTwelve200
04-21-2018, 08:07 AM
Hypnosis can't make you do anything you would NOT want to do in the first place. When you are Hypnotized, you DO feel good, like when you first wake up in the morning and don't want to move, just yet. You want to "keep" the good feeling.---When hypnotized, you are doing a "balancing game"---you know you will keep "the feeling" as long as you follow "instructions"----so hey, why not? you ARE aware of what is going on at the time. But if doing something is against your desires or feelings, you won't do it----The "spell" is broken, it was not worth it to YOU to do that.---so you not only don't follow the command, but of course, you are no longer in that blissful Hypnotic state.

At least that's the way it is in most Hypnotic situations.---And also you cannot do something you might not know how to do in the first place.

Of course Hypnosis is a more complicated subject, including "deeper trance states", "Post hypnotic suggestions" and the like. But the above usually holds at all levels. ( I have done Hypnosis for "past life recalls", fun, etc.)

I have a peculiar "inability" as far as "acting like a Woman" goes---I can either Dress like one and present a fair "appearance" OR I can act like one in Male mode, but I cannot make myself do BOTH at the same time ---In public anyway. A personal "hang -up" to be sure---perhaps Hypnosis might help. That is a big reason I do not go out--save for Costume party of stage skits, dressed---(It does not matter in those cases)

Taylor186
04-21-2018, 09:41 AM
And also you cannot do something you might not know how to do in the first place.

^^Yes to this.^^

Hypnosis will not enable you to be a great pianist or singer or painter or actor, or as the OP posits: "act like a woman or walk like a woman or talk like a woman or sit like a woman," unless you already have those skills.

It's a fun fantasy though.

donnalee
04-21-2018, 11:37 AM
.It would depend on your concept of how a woman acts; this could be Milton Berle in drag, Mrs. Doubtfire, Tootsie, Ann-Margaret, Kathleen Turner, Susan Sarandon, your Mom, sister, grandma, or neighbor lady or just about anyone else and knowing how to achieve that behavior.
Seems pretty doubtful to me.

Teresa
04-21-2018, 12:41 PM
Krisi,
I'm not sure how long hynosis can last for, I know people use it to stop smoking but is it a short term influence that enables the person to break the habit ?

In the circusatnces you describe could you transpose the word hypnotise to read brainwash , in fact is it the same thing ?

Now if it were possible, it's suggesting there's a cure , I'm so glad my wife didn't get to hear of it !!

You realise you could be entering a World of zombies !!

Krisi
04-23-2018, 08:35 AM
Ladies, it was just a thought and not a serious one like I was going to dash down to my local hypnotist and shell out a couple hundred dollars for an experiment.

As most of us know, we can capture our feminine image by selecting the best shot of a hundred or so photos, post it here and get dozens of compliments, but in real life or even a video, we have dozens of male mannerisms that give us away. The way we walk, the way we hold our arms and hands, our posture, etc. and obviously, our voice. Even if we can raise the pitch, women speak very differently than men. Inflections, tempo, even the number of words to tell a story.

Some of us know these differences and try to compensate but it's nearly impossible unless you practice every day for hours.

Meghan4now
04-23-2018, 10:17 AM
Krisi,

I thought it was a good question. You are not typically given to fantasy, and I would not think that you would have an unrealistic expectation.

What I do know about hypnosis and possible effectiveness is that it might help you overcome some inhibitions that could affect your performance. That could help with deportment, dancing, speach. It might also tune in verbal response choices and some behavioral traits. I also don't think it is reasonable for us to always assume that just because we are men, we are unaware of typical female behavior.

In fact we generally are aware. It's how we read others and have biases. Unavoidable, but not always bad. Without some bias we could not function as quickly and effectively on a day to day basis. We need to be cognizant of our biases though, to avoid negative or limiting behavior.

LeannS
04-23-2018, 11:09 AM
Krisi to me it is learned behavior, watching others, talking that is a learned trait and lots of practice, sitting is practice, walking in heels practice after you twist your ankle a few times or mess up your wrist from the fall.
but there are alot of youtube videos on hypnosis but I think that most ok 99% of them are bs I know you can't just listen and you change your sex or grow boobs, have your hair fall off or grow hair in other areas (head)

but Krisi I would be right behind you if it did work

Krisi
04-24-2018, 09:08 AM
Physically no Taylor but they can make you "think" you are LOLOL.

OMG I can't imagine being hypnotized and think I would look good in a pair of Daisy Duke shorts and a tube top.LOLOL.
I certainly don't have the figure for that and to go out and actually think it looks good would be mortifying.

Unfortunately, I see some photos here of people who "think" they look good and go out looking that way. And most likely they have not been hypnotized.

- - - Updated - - -


^^Yes to this.^^

Hypnosis will not enable you to be a great pianist or singer or painter or actor, or as the OP posits: "act like a woman or walk like a woman or talk like a woman or sit like a woman," unless you already have those skills.

It's a fun fantasy though.

Well I would think I know how to walk or talk like a woman, I've been around them my entire life. It's not like playing the piano. It's just that there are so many things to try to remember to do at the same time that it's difficult to do them all and do anything else. It would be like having a "switch" to turn on the female actions and hopefully another switch to turn them off. Sometimes I look on youtube and see a guy all dolled up and pretty and then he walks like an ape. That kills it.

NicoleScott
04-24-2018, 06:13 PM
This discussion is making me vewwy vewwy sleepy.

Taylor186
04-25-2018, 07:47 AM
It's just that there are so many things to try to remember to do at the same time that it's difficult to do them all and do anything else.

That is exactly what I thought when I took piano lessons (a long time ago).

Pat
04-25-2018, 09:07 AM
We' I would think I know how to walk or talk like a woman, I've been around them my entire life. It's not like playing the piano.

So give it a try and let us know how it works out. Perhaps your wife would be willing to video it so you could evaluate the result yourself.

I have worked with stage hypnotists who convince people they know how to sing or dance and that never works out so great, though the subject doesn't know it. ;)

Krisi
04-26-2018, 08:22 AM
There are folks (transsexuals, for example) who are much more serious about their imitation of women than I am. Folks who study and practice for hours at a time, study youtube lessons, take voice lessons, etc. To them, it's very important to present the entire package. Then there are others who just strap on a pair of boobs and a wig, slip on a dress and a pair of heels and walk out the door not caring.

Personally, I'm somewhere in the middle. I'm not willing to devote the time and effort to learn the female speech and mannerisms, but I don't want to be easily identified as a man in a dress either. Perhaps the hypnotist thought was just a result of watching too much TV. The lazy way out.

Kate Simmons
04-26-2018, 08:55 AM
There is no "magic bullet" after all. It just sometimes takes conscious effort to be who we want to be. :):battingeyelashes:

IleneD
04-26-2018, 09:07 AM
An interesting question. I truly enjoy the intelligent and informed, sometimes instinctive, reactions of my forum sisters.
But let me take the hypnosis suggestion a step beyond and flip over the coin.

What about using hypnosis to "cure" you and other crossdressers or possible transgenders? What is hypnosis was used to remove the femme instinct or feminine feelings that compel a man to want to live as a woman?

Certainly this Life Fact (CD/TG) has caused almost every member of this forum, at some time in their lives and relationships, some amount of shame, conflict, turmoil, rejection, personal sadness,...etc. You all know the life.

Now.... personally I wouldn't want such a treatment, despite the fact my feminine life has indeed caused major problems. I get too much in return from living out ALL of myself.
Secondly, would such a treatment even work? Would it be false and perhaps offensive, kind of like Conversion Therapy for gay/lesbian children. (a stupid idea, BTW, that only continues the unnecessary cultural shaming of LGBT people).

We talk of hypnosis as something that might enhance our femme body language side, but could it also be turned "against" CD's when spouses start demanding hypnotic CD therapy?

Krisi
04-27-2018, 09:08 AM
Ilene, For some of us our desire to crossdress has cause serious problems in our lives and some of us feel a deep compulsion to dress as women. For those where crossdressing is causing serious problems, perhaps hypnosis (if it really worked) to reduce the desire to crossdress would be a blessing.

Pat
04-27-2018, 11:04 AM
What about using hypnosis to "cure" you and other crossdressers or possible transgenders?

I can't help but compare this to using hypnotism to cure diabetes or cancer -- it won't work, at least with transgender people, because it's not just a passing fancy, it's "baked in" by the time you're born.

Rachelakld
04-27-2018, 04:24 PM
Hypnotherapy relies on the base promise that the subconscious/base personality wants the change.
Hypnotherapy needs a willing mind.
If a hypnotherapist gave me an onion and told me it was an apple, I still wouldn't eat it as I'm not into apples.
If they tell me to kill someone, it wouldn't work because it violates a core identity rule.

For me, being hypnotised to act more feminine wouldn't work as it would only address a sub personality and not my core personality.
Hypnotherapy will not alter my physical muscle and joint configurations or make my boobs and bum bigger.

I've used hypnotherapy as a shortcut to meditation, where I can address core issues, or just hide.

Alice B
04-28-2018, 12:51 PM
I believe in the process and the ways it can affect and change how you behave. But, I am unable to fully expose myself to the process or allow someone else to control me. I have tried it several time with no result, while my friends have gone under while sitting in the audience

Amelie
04-28-2018, 03:05 PM
I tried to become a woman through hypnotism. Only problem, anytime someone claps their hands I walk around like a quaking duck.

BustyOlivia
04-28-2018, 03:36 PM
I like the hypnosis male to female ones on you tube! Worked for me!

Krisi
04-30-2018, 08:39 AM
I can't help but compare this to using hypnotism to cure diabetes or cancer -- it won't work, at least with transgender people, because it's not just a passing fancy, it's "baked in" by the time you're born.

Diabetes and cancer are physical problems. Crossdressing or transgenderism are mental problems. They can't logically be compared to each other.

Pat
04-30-2018, 09:31 AM
Diabetes and cancer are physical problems. Crossdressing or transgenderism are mental problems. They can't logically be compared to each other.

Two points of disagreement: (1)Current science is showing that transgenderism is a biological issue, not a mental one. Trans people show markers in their DNA that CIS people don't have. Trans brains show structures more like the gender trans people report than the sex they were born with. So, yes, it's physical. (2) Every major medical association has come to accept that transgenderism exists and is NOT a problem.

Krisi
05-01-2018, 08:17 AM
It's certainly a problem for some people. The suicide rate for transgender people is far higher than for non-transgender people.

Pat
05-01-2018, 09:44 AM
The suicide rate is certainly a problem, but it seems to be linked to social acceptance especially by one's family and friends, not to the physical fact of being transgender. When there is acceptance, the suicide rate drops to one comparable to the general population. Kinda makes sense -- if every minute of every day you feel rejection, sooner or later you're going to hit a low point and that sense of never being able to have a happy life will push you over the edge. If you have happiness, you have hope and even if things aren't perfect, you can carry on.

Jackiefl
05-01-2018, 03:42 PM
Is it possible that we are getting a little of the topic.Hypnosis vs suicide.

Krisi
05-02-2018, 07:57 AM
Two points of disagreement: (1)Current science is showing that transgenderism is a biological issue, not a mental one. Trans people show markers in their DNA that CIS people don't have. Trans brains show structures more like the gender trans people report than the sex they were born with. So, yes, it's physical. (2) Every major medical association has come to accept that transgenderism exists and is NOT a problem.

I have not heard of this science. If this is true, there could be a test for transgenderism. A person could be tested and identified as actually transgender. This would be useful in convincing non-believers and also in "bathroom" cases.