She Wants A Female/Male Partner

[deebra]

Does anyone have a mate that prefers you be feminine and wear girl clothes? She likes and prefers the soft, feminine look and mannerisms of being with another woman over a man; she wants her mate to be feminine including wearing and acting like another woman when at home and to dress with good judgement when going out. She's not a lesbian but wants a man for affection but after that her fulltime girlfriend. You know, to do things two women like to do but men want know part of.

[Beverley Sims]

My girlfriends invited me to a beach shack years ago, not for obvious reasons but they wanted a male to be with them to dissuade the boys who would notice five girls in a shack together.

One problem was the parents did not want the girls to have raunchy parties whilst they were in the parent's beach house.

Problem two was the nosey neighbours next door who had the parent's phone no and would watch the girls anyway.

I became girl no six and I had plenty of mates who liked the feminine me.

That became a grand awakening for me after a week.

To answer the question I had a great relationship with the girls being one myself.

I was nineteen at the time.

[DaisyLawrence]

No. Another fantasy Deebra?

[Tracy Irving]

Given a choice, my wife would prefer me in a suit to an evening gown. Every time!

[deebra]

Daisy, you're always so positive with my posts and others that post to keep this forum going. You don't!! So as I've told you before if you see the name Deebra just skip it

[IleneD]

Deebra , All I can say is that, you have a keeper if that's the case.
Really?
The Wife despises "this"; this CD and TG thing. She thinks the entire world is upside-down right down right now; and the entire concept of transgenderism is but a prime example of the madness and civilization's collapse. She also loves me to death. She knows I've always been quite strange and free. I'm going to do what I want to do, including dress.

When she wants her man, she wants her man. I'm still trying to figure out how much of the man I used to be, and how much of a woman I want to be.

[DaisyLawrence]

Deebra. You misunderstand. I was simply wondering if this was a fantasy OR if you have such mates or mate yourself? As I said, I do not but maybe you do.

[Sidney]

Debra you have a keeper.

My wife is accepting and supportive however she told me early on she didn't want me as a girlfriend. Soooo as much as I would like that arrangements it's not going to happen. I'm happy with her and where we're at now.

[2B Natasha]

Debra. I have a hybrid situation, like many here do. I dress as I want and when I want. That includes leaving the house. My wife and I have kept open lines of communication about everything so there are no surprises regarding clothes. Still I am all male in bed. That is a choice between her and I. I see no point in wearing fake boobs while in the engaging in bedroom gymnastics. Nor do I see any point in unders as they would just get in the way. So to say.

[AlissaMurray]

Well geesh, I guess I am pretty lucky then. My girl loves when I'm dressed. I will grant you this is a new relationship but so far she understands this is just how I am and she likes it. This woman is more than excepting, she buys me things constantly. She did my make up and had a absolute ball doing it. I think she was having as much fun as me. If I am dressed in a t-shirt n jeans (or) girls jeans n T with a bra, I can count on she will still grab at my butt. LOL She cares not how I dress she will walk hand in hand with me and have a big smile on her face. It does make this life easier when you have the full support of your partner that is for sure. And I do. I plan to enjoy every minute of it for as long as it lasts which I am truly hoping is forever.

[char GG]

Deebra,
Is what you described your situation?

Personally, I don’t need another girlfriend. Clothes and shoes don’t make him “girlfriend” material. My SO enjoys CDing and I would never try to stop him but there is nothing in it for me. I enjoy his company, nothing to do with how he’s dressed. When I go out with him dressed, my function is to be his photographer.

[Jaylyn]

Deebra you are living the dream that many of us would love to have. Don't mess it up because it can't get better than what you already have.

[Stacy Darling]

I don't have such a partner but do believe that there are a couple out there. 20+yrs ago I could have got together with my best friend, but if so I probably wouldn't be sitting here, I'd be in Taipei!
Stacy!

[CoralReef]

it hard to find that. i haven't met anyone only seen it on tube channels. if you have that its luck! enjoy!

[docrobbysherry]

Deebra, I think Daisy's question is what many of us would ask u. Why?

It's odd criteria in your post. Sort of like my fantasy of becoming a unicorn or a 25 y/o woman. Why don't u simply ask if others share your fantasy instead of blasting Daisy? Or, u r too ashamed to own it until others say they have it, too?:straightface:

[deebra]

My post describes the situation very accurately if you read it carefully and understand what she likes. She likes to see her mate in women's sexy bikini panties "that outline and show" what turns her on but with the sexiness of a woman's lingerie. To hug and feel a bra (not her bra) pressing against her breasts. To see her admire pretty tanned legs in short shorts and a tight Tee shirt over a D bra with women's sandles. This is her eye candy that makes her start to purr. A male bodybuilder does nothing, but to see her mate setting with nylon clad legs crossed, pumps and a short skirt will lead her to the bedroom every time; that is where the panties come off and the male enters. To go shopping together on a Saturday morning both wearing bra, panties, sandles, girl jeans, etc. knowing they are dressed feminely the same brings a closeness that only two close girls can have. To shop for girl clothes together.

With all of the different situations out there why is this so hard to believe. She's feminine, loves feminine things and wants the softness of another woman to share this tenderness with. She sees men (rough, tough, sloppy) on Mars, not Venus. To get dressed together watching each other put on a bra, thong or panties, etc. and go out together for dinner as two feminine people that are in love with this special relationship is spelled happiness.

Are there others that are lucky enough to have this kind of relationship?

[DaisyLawrence]

Well I'll be the first to say that there is plenty of kinky detail there in the reply to Doc. I suspect you're looking for something that doesn't exist. For example, you stated at first that 'she is not a lesbian' and later that she likes 'to hug and feel a bra (not her bra) pressing against her breasts'. Call me mad but these things sound mutually exclusive to me and fantastical to say the very least. I reckon you've got more chance of meeting a talking unicorn. My wife loves my femininity more than I can tell you but all this panties, bras, nylons stuff does nothing for her. Why would it, she too is not a lesbian. Several have asked you here if you have this kind of relationship yourself, your last line suggests so but you fail to clarify. Do you?

[AlissaMurray]

Yep there are others out here...

[TXSara]

Yeah... no such situation here.

[deebra]

docrobbysherry, Daisy's thread #3 was sarcastic, she loves to trash my posts without reading and CLEARLY understanding what I write. If she and her wife don't have what I have what logic says my relationship is wrong? I do agree with her that she is mad to do what she does. And I also agree with you about becoming a 25 y/o woman, however you have mastered becoming a crabby, negative old woman. Fantasy and a shame, you couldn't be more wrong. To bad there are bad apples in every barrel.

[krissy]

I would kill to have what you have LOL, Your so lucky i have never had a woman accept me like that not even a little bit .i lost my first wife and she told all my male friends .i lost them too. my current wife cant stand this part of me i have been married to her for 38 years .i dont think ill ever get to experience any one who will love me for who i am.Cherish her with all your heart .:cheer::cheers:

[Sara Jessica]

Many here are replying as if the scenario described by OP is actually a real one in OP's life.

From what I can tell, IT ISN'T!!!

It is a fantasy scenario that rarely exists in the real world but not OP's real world.

My only criticism is that OP should make it crystal clear that what is described is a fantasy and not OP's situation. That'd take away all of the "you lucky girl, you have a keeper" replies. In all fairness, I don't see the first post really suggesting this is real but there are a number of questions as to whether it is and the responses are coy in avoiding the truth. It still comes across as fantasy fiction.

[Alice Torn]

I have not met one woman yet, that thinks my dressing is kosher. The ones i know want an alpha male, but who can be gentle, but not one accepts men dressing in womens clothes.

[Jean. Ann]

I see no reason , why this type relationship would not be attainable .
In my experience , I have met many women who might well
be open to this

Jean Ann

[Stephanie47]

Sara beat me to the point. I reviewed the responses yesterday and said "Wait!" This post was a "What if" Deebra isn't saying she has a wife you appreciates a girlfriend. My wife and I are firmly entrenched in a "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" marriage. Not a word has been spoken about my desire to wear women's clothing over the last thirty years. This forum has had discussions alluding to a 'feminine' side of a male as if those attributes are limited to the female segment of the human race. Not all men are boorish MCP's who are afraid or don't know how to show affection or nurturing and any other attribute thought to be feminine. My wife married a man who is not dragging his knuckles on the ground and carrying a club a la caveman. My does not want a husband who pretends to be a woman. She has close friends who are women. She also has close friends who are male. I would characterize this post as being in the realm of fantasy for the vast majority of men who wear women's clothing. The entire idea borders on the notion of total acceptance of her husband's quirk, hobby, need or whatever term characterizes his desires.

[docrobbysherry]

docrobbysherry, Daisy's thread #3 was sarcastic, she loves to trash my posts without reading and CLEARLY understanding what I write. If she and her wife don't have what I have what logic says my relationship is wrong? I do agree with her that she is mad to do what she does. And I also agree with you about becoming a 25 y/o woman, however you have mastered becoming a crabby, negative old woman. Fantasy and a shame, you couldn't be more wrong. To bad there are bad apples in every barrel.

Well, if that's not your fantasy than what is it? Your reality? U have a relationship like that? I strongly doubt it or you'd be shouting it from the roof tops! I know I certainly would be!:D

If bad mouthing Daisy and me makes u feel better than giving straight answers? Have at it! I can handle it!:thumbsup:

[Alice B]

In my life I have known 3 woman that would be fully accepting of my dressing and would have wanted to be a part of it. My first wife was one, who once I became Alice wanted me meet her and once that was arranged was 100% in with it. We divorced for unrelated reasons long before Alice became reality. The other two were also pre Alice, but I am certain they would also have approved. My current wife accepts Alice, but does not wish to be involved. I am OK with that an d have all the freedom I need. Yes it would be a fantasy to have my current wife be as described.

[Vicky_Scot]

Does anyone have a mate. Do not think many people, male or female would like being referred to as a mate.

[char GG]

Just an FYI Deebra,

There were a couple of GGs on this forum a few months ago that were looking for/attracted to CDers. I haven’t seen posts from either of them for several months. If they were the real deal, they may have found their dream CDer.

They sounded like GGs that you are describing.

[Maria 60]

My wife doesn't like the wig or breast forms situation, but loves feeling the smoothness of my pantyhose legs against her and at times will ask me to put them on to get that soft smooth feeling.

[sweetdreams]

I know they are rare but I did have a girlfriend who was turned on by my CDing. I've described the situation before so I won't bore you with it here.

The relationship ended due to other issues. Certainly not CDing. Nothing was too girly for her in relation to what I wore. My suspicion was she was bi-curious but not brave enough to have a relationship with a GG (just my guess). When I got dressed up (i.e. skirt blouse, stockings, etc.) she couldn't last more than about 20 minutes before she dragged me into the bedroom. She shared her clothes with me. We went shopping together and she would light up. Again I don't want to bore you with something I've already shared.......

We had some good times and in many ways it was an unforgettable experience.

[DaisyLawrence]

docrobbysherry, Daisy's thread #3 was sarcastic, she loves to trash my posts without reading and CLEARLY understanding what I write. If she and her wife don't have what I have what logic says my relationship is wrong? I do agree with her that she is mad to do what she does. And I also agree with you about becoming a 25 y/o woman, however you have mastered becoming a crabby, negative old woman. Fantasy and a shame, you couldn't be more wrong. To bad there are bad apples in every barrel.

Wow! I've read it all now.

So here is the considered reply:

1. Post #3 was NOT sarcastic, only an attempt to establish if your described relationship was fantasy or real life for you. Others have asked the same question. There has been no clear answer from you but past form in all previous threads suggests you live a fantasy kink/fetish life.

2. I understand what you write as clearly as anyone else can. I am English speaking and eductated, why wouldn't I? If you can't get your intentions over in a way that I, Doc and others can understand then why is that anyones fault but your own?

3. When did I say your relationship is wrong? Now you are just making things up. The words I type are real not fantasy.

4. When did I say I was mad to do what I do? Again you are making it up as you go along.

5. Last I knew Doc was a wise mature man with an interest in gender expression and more worldly knowledge and experience than half the membership put together. When did he become a crabby negative old woman? If you do not hear what you want to hear in real life do you slag off the speaker and call them names too?

That's it, my mind is officially boggled!

[deebra]

To end this never ending discussion my post simply asked does anyone have a relationship like I described, simple yes or no answer that's all. Maria #30 said her wife loved to feel her legs in nylons, my thread said my mate liked to feel a bra (not hers) against her breasts; same thing.

Sweetdreams #31 answered my question, smart lady, she also had a relationship EXACTLY what I described. And to the doubters your arguments just got holes shot in them.

To bad some just look for a post to discredit. Some are positive and do the right thing.

BYE, Deebra

[sweetdreams]

Talking about this has brought up some memories for me about my previous post. I sometimes wonder if I had done the right thing when I broke things off. It was such a positive, supportive relationship for my CDing. A couple of moments have come to mind:


One time she asked me why I didn't wear camisoles more often.
If I put on a nighty, she would say something like "oh we are having a nightie night" (she normally slept nude). Then she would put one on too.
I had on a short skirt and hose with one of my male tee shirts. She looked over thoughtfully and said "I have a blouse that would go well with that. It's made of polyester and feels silky - you would like it. Do you want to borrow it?" I did.
On one time I had put on a girdle and stockings without her knowing it. We went shopping. When we got home and it was time to go to bed, I pulled down my pants. She looked over and said "oh when I was younger I used to wear those quite often."
One day we were getting changed to go out. I looked over and she had on a pair of my panties. I did mention it to her but then let it drop.
Usually when we shopped for lingerie, we ended up buying two of what ever turned my fancy. One for me and one for her.
One time we were having a romantic evening. I put on a negligee. She looked at me and said "I want one of those too."
The first night I moved in with her, when we went to bed there was a nightie and panties set she had bought for me sprawled out on the bed.


I'm not sure what would have happened had we stayed together. I will say there was never a derogatory remark about anything I wore.

She was well educated and smart too. She was into teaching at the university level. Got her PHD and went on to be a professor.

Yes I know what you are thinking. Was I crazy to break it off with her. I do wonder sometimes. Oh boy the memories....

[GretchenJ]

Since this thread is sprinkled with posts that are non-subject related, but may be bringing up possible prior bad blood between the members , I have decided to close it before it escalates.

For what it was worth, the initial question about whether this was a real life situation vs a fantasy ( in a perfect world...) was a valid one.