Socializing with women

[Michal82]

Hi
Do you socialize easily with women whom you never met before?
In recent years, as sexual interest diminished in CDing, I find myself trying to understand womanhood more deeply (looking less and in to the obvious appearance of woman). Well, women are very social, and they start a conversation very easily even with women they don't know (based on my experience). I recently found myself in a situation where I was sitting with a woman whom I never met before, waiting for my wife to come. There was an awkward silence and I could not find something to talk about with her (I wasn't en-femme, that's an easy conversation starter :heehee: ).
These situations always remind me how un-feminine I am...
What about you? Does chit-chat comes easily to you? Does it fit with your female persona?
Michal.

[phili]

I'm doing the same thing- now working with a lot of women in an elementary school project. The really interesting thing for me is that I have to really go deep to let the natural instinct to communicate easily and trustingly come forth as speech- but I see as I do that it was one of the things that was driving my urge to crossdress- to recover that capacity and enjoy it in the world.

Simultaneously, I see that women, in women's eyes, are just a variety of people with personalities, etc. and it feels to me very much like any similar group of men, in the sense of the diversity and the jockeying for position. The styling of conversation is different, and the overlay of femininity which comes into play when around men is much diminished...

There are a set of roles- the dominant people, the helpers, the advisers, etc. but at least in school settings women are not being sidelined by men. Ironically, when among women the wonder and excitement of clothes is non-existent for the most part- the teen age sexual feelings long lost in the work of being a woman. Dressing for men is where that comes in, it doesn't come up when the environment is all women trying to get something done.


My ceramics classes were mostly young women, who were sometimes put off, but the older women were all very tolerant and friendly to me expressing myself with clothing- which I put to the fact that everyone was there to express themselves via art and the artistic impulse affects us all the time, not just in the classroom.

[Rayleen]

Yes Michal, I socialize easily with women. I have most of my friends are women and didn't even know them before.

I spend most time with women and chat easily. I learn a lot of them, and specially how they dress and react overall .


Rayleen

[Alice Torn]

i ==Last week, i got into quite the conversatons, with my lady psychiatrist, includint opening up, that i occasionally crossdress. With most people, and women, i have tried to start talking, but many today are fearful of stranger, and closed up. Once ina while , women are quite friendly, but others are suspicious and closed off.

[Piora]

I'm the same. I find I get along best with women, and I enjoy talking with women at work more so than men. I would love to give my opinions and get into discussions when I overhear women at work discussing clothes. Sometimes I just have to bite my tongue and walk out of earshot.

[Teresa]

Michal,
Are you asking this question when socialising in drab or dressed . I find it so easy to socialise when dressed but can still chatter away in drab . The other difference is women are so open about clothes and shoes and what they can and can't wear . The conversations I've got into with women telling me what they hate about their body and how they struggle sometimes to get clothes that fit .

[Micki_Finn]

I have always been far more comfortable socializing with women of all levels of familiarity than men. The trick is to stop thinking that you need to treat women differently. If you feel that the way you interact with men would be an inappropriate way to interact with women, then you’re acting inappropriately with men.

[Alice B]

I always talk to woman including those I do not know. I find it easy to find something to start a conversation and completely enjoy it. One starting point is to ask what is the pe5fume you are wearing..I really like it

[alwayshave]

Michal, I am shy and chit chat has never come easily. I have got better at it over the years.

[Kimberly Adams]

used to be hard for me but have recently lost any inhibitions and can start up a conversation with anyone with ease, especially beautiful women. i just out and give them a huge compliment about something they're wearing, shoes are always a fun topic. Women love compliments as long as it's sincere and do it with class and discretion. nothing creepy. the more often you do it the easier it gets.

[Jean. Ann]

Once you start talking I find women to be easier to talk
To than men . And make the best friends

Jean Ann

[Rayleen]

Jean.Ann, you are right, me too I find it easier to talk to women. Women are more open to chat.

[Frannie7]

HI Michal. In general throughout my life most of mt friends have been women. Maybe because music was my major and career choice. I also coach women's soccer and prefer that to men. I think my temperament is more suited to that. However not having socialized much while enfemm, I am not sure how I would react. I believe I would rather "go out with women" than men but I haven't tested that.

[VS Fan]

Interesting topic to me as I have always been able to be friends with women more easily than men... Probably not an uncommon thing among us here? On a related note, my very first GNO with my local support group, it was an interesting experiment for me since.. while we were all men (at least originally, since some in our group are trans) it seemed that everyone there was easy to talk to and share things with... that was only my second time out in "public" EVER and I felt very comfortable there with them all.

[Aunt Kelly]

Interesting question. When I was younger and dating, I was shy and had trouble around women in a setting where that was "the game". In other settings, work for example, I always, always got on better with the women. Most of my closest friends through my school years were women. Never really thought about it before. Thanks for bringing it up.

[Felicia M]

I have always found it so much easier to socialize with women and have always had uneasy relationships with men. However I am slow to warm to someone or start conversations so I do find it difficult to socialize with
women I have never met before.

This does however bring up a very interesting point. Lately now that I am dressing again I do find it easier to strike up a conversation with women. Just the other day when walking through
a large department store I spotted a young GG who was working in the cosmetics section. She had bright pink hair and a unique look to her and a nice smile. As I walked by in drab she looked up and our eyes met for a second.
I said to her "Your hair looks fabulous" and she broke a huge smile and said "thank you". This was something I would never do normally but now that I notice women for their style, look, clothes, jewelry etc. it makes is so much
more easy just to compliment a GG for their look instead of it coming off as hitting on someone.

[CDYoga]

I noticed it is a lot easier for myself to have a working relationship with women & talk to them about whatever at work... but some of them are real bitches and ask like they want nothing to do with you. Generally if they are in the "same department" as me they really don't like me, but everyone else is really nice; same with the "admins". They also aren't afraid to ask questions like "how do you get your hair like that" and "wear did you get that scarf, hat, etc...".

I wear women's clothing to work all the time, but no one has asked me about any of that yet... I feel like they must know, but don't say anything even it is mostly pants, cardigan, etc... and makeup.

[Crissy 107]

Very interesting that I think all who responded to this thread find it easier to talk with women. I agree as it has always been easier for me also. I also have more female friends and even at the gym I have always been around the girls much more. Even when I go to the deli department at our supermarket two of the women give me hugs. Just the way it is.
I also agree with noticing what women are wearing and would I like it on me. I first check their nails but now I’m getting off topic, sorry.
Crissy

[FrannGurl]

It seems to be a common theme with most of us here.
I too, am much more comfortable around women then men. ..Talking on most any subject, I feel I can be myself. When a man talks to me I tend to be more guarded ...unless he's charming, and I've had a few drinks …*wink*

[Beverley Sims]

I have always found it easier to socialise with women.

I can keep a group entertained for quite a while.

But a group of men...... No.

[Becky Blue]

You raise an interesting point Michal, BB (Before Becky) i generally did not talk to women that I did not know... AB (After Becky) I find myself feeling much more part of the F tribe so nowadays even when in drab I find myself much more likely to chat with women that i don't know.

[sometimes_miss]

I find it pretty easy to talk to anyone who's interested in talking. It's all just a matter of getting THEM started; give them the attention they want, and most will start to open up about all kinds of things. For those of you who need ways to get started, try this: https://www.amazon.com/Fine-Small-Talk-Audiobook-Audio/dp/B003L8AXYG/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1534323374&sr=8-2&keywords=By+Debra+Fine+The+Fine+Art+of+Small+Talk

It was a pretty good listen.

[Crissy 107]

I was told by a husband of one of my friends at the gym that his wife told him that I was” one of the girls”
He had a smirk on his face but it made my day!
Crissy

[AllieSF]

I am like Sometimes_Miss. I can and usually want to talk with everyone, male, female or whatever they may be. I tend to talk more with women because I would try to date most of them if I was miraculously closer to their younger age! My way of getting them (male or female) to talk is to ask them about themselves sharing similar things about myself as we go along. In the right circumstance most people truly want to talk about themselves, because they don't seem to do much of that if they are just listening to other people's stories.

[t-girlxsophie]

I've made friends more readily amongst females,Of course their not strangers but at work i spend most time conversing with them,although I dont avoid the guys,I think conversations with women are generally more varied and interesting.

With strangers,male or female if the situations arises yeah I'll start a chat,nothing may come of it but its just being friendly

Sophie

[Kiwi Primrose]

My best friends outside the family are women. The closest ones know about my hobby, others sometimes guess.