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aLEXisREX
08-17-2018, 11:40 AM
Ok so I have this friend who I worked with at one point in my life when I was dumped and depressed. She is older than me by 17 years. We met years ago and she immediately became attracted to me uncontrollably. Eventually she kinda seduced me and we had a one night stand (which didn't deter our friendship one bit). That was awesome. We talked every other night about life, love, happiness, and everything. It was like we were a couple, but totally on the down-low because we both understood that even though we had feelings of love, it was kind of like a mother-son relationship where she understood that I didn't want to settle down with a 47 year old woman (I was 30), but she was happy enjoying her young boy-toy. I was happy to have an understanding friend as well as get some action from a beautiful older woman.

We were both recovering from alcohol abuse at the time of the intimacy. I dont drink anymore and neither does she, but we quit differently. She got into an abusive relationship and eventually found herself at AA and moved in with a wonderful and generous TS person, who she claims to adore to the point of a strange attraction. I believe she still lives there. I quit drinking just by will-power. I just stopped about a year ago.

So what happened was we lost touch a little as I started closing myself in my depression and shunning society a bit. One day she called me and said, "Why dont you ever call anymore, what's your gig?" So I confided in her since we were so close. I told her everything. My dressing, my toys, my bi-sexual behaviors. I even admitted to enjoying a cuckold/femdom and chastity fetish I developed along with being in the closet. I sent her pictures of myself in makeup and totally dressed and confessed that it was really affecting my social life. She was so understanding and apologized and tried to make me feel very comfortable. She talked about her TS roommate and how we are so similar, and how she never really thought that because she never could have guessed I dressed up or was like this. She offered to take me out to some kind of a meeting or something. Eventually it turned into her pressuring me that I am trans and I should come out as trans and be happy. This is not the case. I'm a guy. I love being a guy, I just also love trying to pass and sometimes I'm good at it, its exciting.

Eventually we stopped talking because she got upset that I'm living a lie or something and that I need to come out. She said there are no cross-dressers, just trans people who dont know they are trans yet. This upset me very much. Now she knows of my habits and thinks I'm doing something wrong and we dont talk. She wont pick up my calls or call me back. It's really sad. I lost a good friend and one of my only friends. (The other is a guy who would probably not talk to me if I told him this stuff) I dont know if I should continue trying to talk sense into this person or just leave her be (going with the latter).

I posted this to remind people of the toxic transgender movement out there that does exist. I'm not against people wanting to be the opposite sex. There is nothing wrong with a man feeling like hes a woman or vice versa, however, it seems to me that there is a certain percentage of people who are TS (or support trans-people) that think they are the arbiters of truth and will usurp you; or hold you accountable for their strife and for disagreeing with them to the point of dangerously ousting you against your will for being 'against' them. So please every CD person should be careful with who you associate with in that community. To me, the sudden explosion of the trans movement in media and pop culture is done so to fuel a war on men, masculinity, true femininity and definitely a war on cross-dressers. Again, I'm not saying all trans people are like this or that I think they are a problem, but the media and invested interests are definitely not in your favor as a cross-dresser or a transgendered person. We as CDers are in more of a hot seat than any other, this is why the subject is even more taboo and not as widely accepted as the trans subject. After all, when we aren't dressed, to the media and to society in the aggregate we are just another ugly, hairy boy.

Meghan4now
08-17-2018, 12:00 PM
Hmm,

Perhaps, but that is not my experience. I don't really see anyone pressuring others to be trans. I feel that possibly for some people, especially younger people with limited experience, there can be a bit of "trendiness" right now and also a lot of polarization which leads to rejection. The rejection can be by trans, not trans, religeous, atheist, etc. It comes across as narrow minded and self serving
The term Echo chamber comes to mind.

Stephanie47
08-17-2018, 12:00 PM
Unfortunately there are many people out there who will not just accept another person for who they are. Over the years I've read many posts on this forum almost pushing the same sentiment. The underlying personality trait is not limited to people pushing her agenda. It's whatever agenda they have. It's always one extreme or the other and nothing in between. Sort of like politics. For some you're either on the extreme right or the extreme left and nothing in between. But, if you try to tell them you're in between, you're are defined for them as an extremist but do not realize it.

When it comes to this issue of wearing women's clothing I really do not know where I fall in the spectrum. I know my comfort zone. A lot of discussion about a topic which is really confusing to the outsiders. Confusing for the insiders too.

I do concur being a plain vanilla cross dresser is the hardest for outsiders to accept. There seems to be at least an acceptance that gays and lesbians are born gay and lesbian. Transsexuals are born transsexual, an issue between the physical and psychological mismatch. Men who wear women's clothing?

Happygirl!
08-17-2018, 12:10 PM
Alexis,
Great post. I'm still trying to understand where I fit in all of this. I identify as a garden variety CD, but have wondered if there is more to it for me. I don't understand the hostility from some of these various sub groups or factions in the TG community. I'm sorry to hear of the loss of contact with your friend/lover.
Happygirl

Shelly Preston
08-17-2018, 01:22 PM
As with everything there is not a one size fits all despite what some people think.

You friend has fallen in to the ultimate trap thinking her way is the only way.

Sometimes no matter how hard you try some folks will never see your point of view.

You can only be yourself :hugs:

kimdl93
08-17-2018, 01:41 PM
May I humbly submit that one persons experience does not constitute a movement. What I do see is people projecting their personal circumstances onto others. She projected on to you and you’re projecting her response as a social movement.

I do think there are more people willing to accept gender variance. That’s a good thing. As for a war on men, that’s hogwash. Whatever problems men have in this society are the consequences of their own misbehaving.

Nikki A.
08-17-2018, 02:06 PM
I feel your angst and I had a similar. though not so strong a situation. I was with a bunch of TG and trans girls after church (a few years ago and another church) and the one girl kept telling me that I was really trans not a CD and that soon enough I would acknowledge it and go to full time. Well 5 or so years later I haven't yet gone full time (although I am much more open about it) so I guess she was wrong.
Never feel pressured into doing anything that doesn't feel right for you.

Asew
08-17-2018, 02:08 PM
This gender binary at its extreme, where she thinks a person has to be 100% male or 100% female. We can dabble in both and still be true to ourselves (but you already knew that) :)

Michaelasfun
08-17-2018, 02:33 PM
My wife is similar to your friend in that she views cross dressing as a destination and not a journey; she thinks if I like wearing womens clothes, then certainly I MUST be (fill in label here). She is a smart person, but I believe, like your friend, she genuinely can’t understand the drive to dress (not that I’ve fully grasped it myself), so hanging some sort of label on it resolves the “why” in her mind.

Joyce Swindell
08-17-2018, 02:35 PM
Well.....it is truly her loss. Her closed minded view has cost HER a friend.

As for all of the rest of your post.... I understand your point. Being hurt deeply by what happened kind of sets the tone I think. The group I belong to has a bit of that thin line to walk as well. Being run by a transgender individual the meetings often sets the same tone of trans vs cd. It makes me wonder where I fit in with what was started as a CD group seems to be full of more trans people than CD's. The topics always seems to favor trans issues.

aLEXisREX
08-17-2018, 03:12 PM
May I humbly submit that one persons experience does not constitute a movement. What I do see is people projecting their personal circumstances onto others. She projected on to you and you’re projecting her response as a social movement.

I do think there are more people willing to accept gender variance. That’s a good thing. As for a war on men, that’s hogwash. Whatever problems men have in this society are the consequences of their own misbehaving.

You are correct that one person's response does not constitute a 'movement'. It was just an example of one experience I've had that is similar to the majority of situations I've experienced. Nature is always balance, always. Only Unnatural activity brings imbalance, something that humans are unnaturally good at through consciousness control and fear based mentality. You are correct that consequences are of our own misbehaving. I'm the definition of 'consequentialism', hence the name. I term it Universal Law or Natural Law. I must disagree with your thought on the war on men being hogwash. Transgender people are a very minute percentage of society but yet it takes up a much larger spectrum of social attention (whether positive or negative) than it deserves and this attention wriggles it's way into more situations than we realize, due to it's sexual nature and the deep roots sexuality has in our everyday interactions with each other, and ourselves. When there is an overwhelming majority of incorrect thought processes instead of a balance, one must ponder if there is a 'movement' or consciousness shift going on that very well may be influenced by think-tanks such as the Fabian Society and the Tavistock Institute. I urge everyone to look into this concept of Natural Law and Neo-Feminism or even 2nd wave vs Classic Feminism and it's effect on the role of the male in families. You will find there are a lot of things you may consider a rabbit-hole and decide not to go down there. I dont blame you, it's scary, but it is necessary for true consciousness expansion.

I'm a strong fighter in Truth. It is not subjective, as people are being duped into thinking these days. I know this for a fact. I just also know that transgender people are not harming anyone by transitioning and they have the right to present as whatever sex they want. This act does not violate natural law (and is not immoral) as right or conservative-leaning people may conclude it is so; however, this act of transitioning doesn't change the fact that we, along with everything in the universe, also has an immutable and binding law of gender that we cannot change. Our conditions and freedoms can change if we decide to ignore the Laws of Nature to the point of allowing others to control others for their advancing of their own agenda, at the cost of yours.

Meghan4now, yes Echo Chamber is a great way to describe the community I'm living in. I've been trying to move for a while. I will move one day because I know I'm not meant for this place.

If anyone can point me to evidence that there is not a war between the sexes, please do. Then go to the grocery store and stand in line to pay and spark up a conversation about husband/wife economic dynamics and wait for the mind control to show its perverse face.

LilSissyStevie
08-17-2018, 04:29 PM
I call it the Transgender Borg. It wants to assimilate everyone it can into it's hive-mind (AKA the TG umbrella) for political purposes. Of course, once those objectives are achieved, "mere fetishists" such as myself would be tossed under the bus at the first opportunity. No thanks, I'll drive my own bus. You mention AA. I've been in AA cumulatively for two thirds of my life and there is always a faction that wants to believe that anyone that ever had a little bit of trouble behind alcohol is a full blown alcoholic in denial. Misery loves company, I suppose. There might also be a little of that going on in your situation with respect to "transness."

Tracii G
08-17-2018, 05:47 PM
The trans community is toxic I have been subject to it for 3+ years now and that is why I stopped going to trans support group meetings.
People judging me and telling me what I need to do and then hating me because I don't agree with them.
Not a very inclusive bunch I will say that.
Never do anything you don't want to do because if it doesn't feel right it isn't.

KatrinaK
08-17-2018, 06:37 PM
There’s a lot in this thread that I agree with. But I don’t think it’s all one sided. I’ve had a HORRIBLE experience about 10 years ago when I was first ready to come out of the closet. I found a local organization where I lived at the time that had a changing space, a social club and a cross dressing shop and I went down there to introduce myself (in guy mode.) it took weeks of mustering up courage to do so, and when I did, it was to date the worst experience of my life. I was treated like DIRT. Even worse, a gay man walked in at the same time as me who wanted to enter a drag show, and I was all but shown the door so they could help him. They ignored me, spoke down to me, and made me feel like I was worthless. I’ve told this story before, without naming names, but **** it... it was Wildside in Toronto. This experience put me back in the closet for 10 years after spending two decades coming up with the courage to seek community.

Now, that said, I feel like people who identify as pure CDs exhibit similar but opposite behavior. My personal belief, borne from nearly 40 years of reading and academic self searching is that there is a spectrum and we’re all on it. CD fetishists on one side, and TSs on the other. I personally believe that it stems from the same sense of gender misassignment, but that we get that to varying degrees and it’s our ability to learn what it takes to live a happy fulfilled life that defines how we need to express it in order to be happy. I feel lucky that I’m able to live my life in a happy healthy way with only needing to be feminine 25% of the time. I truly feel nothing but compassionate empathy towards those for whom that will never be enough because it’s a TOUGH GIG.

Now, in the same way that the TSs are constantly pushing for the CDs to recognize that there is more than a hobby here and that there are real motivations that drive it, the CDs often argue that there is nothing transgender about them... it’s a fetish or it’s a hobby. The TSs often push way to far and in far more absolute a manner than is merited, but I think they have a point. Conversely, the CDs often speak in a way that demeans the transgender experience as if it’s some kind of disease that they don’t have. These are two polarized arguments arguing about black and white in a world of shades of grey.

I personally think that both black and white extremes need to recognize the shades of grey. I think that the extremists on BOTH sides are responsible for the incongruity in the community. Until that happens, the fracturing will continue and get worse.

Tracii G
08-17-2018, 07:41 PM
The most toxic situation I have been it happened at 2016 Pride event in my town.
The trans people were horrible even gay friends of mine said they wished trans people would start their own pride event preferably in a different part of town.
One of my best gay friends said he felt like the trans community just took over and made it all about them. I can't say I disagree with him at all because Pride used to be a fun event and everybody had a good time.
Now its so political its not worth going to.
You can see know why I don't care for radical trans activists.

Queen Bridget
08-17-2018, 08:02 PM
I actually came here to escape the crazy Trans community that took over tumblr and social media.

My first exposure to it was when they tried to ban drag queens from a UK pride parade, as they were "mocking" trans people. Which we all know is a load of crap. And it snowballed from there. Literally EVERYTHING offends them.

Most of these tumblr "trans" people feel like showboaters. Fakes. What we call "Trend-gender". It's like a fad to them. Like goths, or emos. So I expect it to subside at some point.

Judy-Somthing
08-17-2018, 08:30 PM
I love dressing fem to the best as I can be with my man bod but I don't feel like a woman. It's fun pretending to be one!
I'm 60 and it's so cool to dress up!

May be shook-treatment can fix me?

Alice Torn
08-17-2018, 09:17 PM
I agree with a lot of what AlexisRex wrote. I have been brow beaten by a few Trans people on here over the years, for remaining a CDer part time. I know that men are a safe PC target, too. Some men are jackasses, and brutish jerks, but many are noble, decent people too. Part of me would like to hit a switch and become a beautiful woman temporarily, and then switch back to being a man. When i am all dolled up to the nines, i fantasize being with a true gentleman on dates to the symphony, or dancing, and playing short of penetration sex. But, i have too much to do in guy mode, to ever change sexes. It is such a high to be dressed to the nines in a classy dress, hose and heels, pearls. But, it is only a fantasy for me. I am built like a defensive end in football. One poster was right on, in that it is so easy to project our views onto others, thinking all of us agree/. human nature does not like being left out, or rejected much. I do not take part in any political CD movements, as I am a rugged individualist now, and do not fit any mold well, and refuse to be stifled , and put into a box. Good thread!

sometimes_miss
08-17-2018, 10:48 PM
there is always a faction that wants to believe that anyone that ever had a little bit of trouble behind alcohol is a full blown alcoholic in denial. Misery loves company, I suppose. There might also be a little of that going on in your situation with respect to "transness."

I think that most people who are outside the mainstream desperately want to feel that they, too, are normal, and in order to do that, they try to convince themselves that as many people as possible are just like them.

Cassandra Lynn
08-17-2018, 11:01 PM
Now, in the same way that the TSs are constantly pushing for the CDs to recognize that there is more than a hobby here and that there are real motivations that drive it, the CDs often argue that there is nothing transgender about them... it’s a fetish or it’s a hobby. The TSs often push way to far and in far more absolute a manner than is merited, but I think they have a point. Conversely, the CDs often speak in a way that demeans the transgender experience as if it’s some kind of disease that they don’t have. These are two polarized arguments arguing about black and white in a world of shades of grey.

I personally think that both black and white extremes need to recognize the shades of grey. I think that the extremists on BOTH sides are responsible for the incongruity in the community. Until that happens, the fracturing will continue and get worse.

I really like this, except I personally would steer away from singling out TSs and stick with the umbrella TGs.
Though there was a time when I first came around here, that there was a lot of shame slinging from the TS side; as for what's happening out there in the world? Who the hell knows.
Which is why (like Kim pointed out) we should try to refrain from projecting. I still stick by my opinion though that way to many in the 'I'm just this, not that crowd', are hung up in the cycle of shame/guilt/fear. I once saw a post on some forum where a person said they were okay with being cross-gender, but that they weren't transgender...…...umm, good for you Einstein.

But then again a cigar is often just a cigar right?

Do you think perhaps, you think too much?

Cass

mattea
08-17-2018, 11:35 PM
I actually came here to escape the crazy Trans community that took over tumblr and social media.

My first exposure to it was when they tried to ban drag queens from a UK pride parade, as they were "mocking" trans people. Which we all know is a load of crap. And it snowballed from there. Literally EVERYTHING offends them.

Most of these tumblr "trans" people feel like showboaters. Fakes. What we call "Trend-gender". It's like a fad to them. Like goths, or emos. So I expect it to subside at some point.

I really like the term "trend-gender" that is a good one. I have not been in a situation where I have seen the trans community act that way, but in all honestly I have not really pushed myself out there. I try to root for the causes that are just, but what I perceive from a lot of these events and movements is that it first comes from necessity to say "we need a voice" and then later as they start to get heard, that say "we deserve a voice" that ultimately turns into "we are the only voice that is right". Everyone deserves to be treated with dignity, respect, and in my opinion with love, however I don't deserve more, just because I am different from anyone. I take a lot of pride in trying to do the right thing even when no one else is looking, but I don't demand to be recognized for it. Just my two cents.

Tracii G
08-18-2018, 12:57 AM
Bridget is right to a lot of young people being trans is the trendy thing to do.
I guess they do it for attention because do you see how over the top they are sometimes.
Demanding you speak to them in a certain way ( the pro noun thing) or how you are supposed to bow down to their wants and needs.
A lot of us older trans people don't act that way because its childish and quite frankly annoying as all get out.
I would bet 50% of the "trend genders" will not remain trans when its gone out of style in a few years and something else is the trendy hot thing they all want to be.
Maybe pride will not be infested with trend genders in a few years and go back to what it was meant to be.
Just the other day I over heard two teens talking and one said I think I am trans and the other one said if you were don't you think you would know it?
Just sayin bro' its like saying you think you might be gay.
The first one said yeah I guess you are right I know I'm not gay.

docrobbysherry
08-18-2018, 01:36 AM
There's a lot I agree with in your thread, Alex. :thumbsup:

But, one thing jumped out at me! U talking about people who's minds r made up because of our societies dogma!:doh:

Yet, u called yourself a boy toy because your gf was 17 years older! My ex is 16 years younger than I and our ages were similar to u and your gf when we married. Nobody ever called her my girl toy! So in a way, you're doing just what u accused her of!:heehee:

aLEXisREX
08-18-2018, 09:54 AM
There's a lot I agree with in your thread, Alex. :thumbsup:

But, one thing jumped out at me! U talking about people who's minds r made up because of our societies dogma!:doh:

Yet, u called yourself a boy toy because your gf was 17 years older! My ex is 16 years younger than I and our ages were similar to u and your gf when we married. Nobody ever called her my girl toy! So in a way, you're doing just what u accused her of!:heehee:

Good Point. The self loathing runs deeps in humans as a whole and I'm a work in progress just like everyone else. I am guilty of putting myself down quite often. Thank you for pointing that out.

And thank you everyone else who replied for your witty responses. I am also here because I just cant fit into normal social media any longer. I deleted all my other mainstream accounts. You have all helped me grow more than you know. I will definitely stick around this site for a while.

Thank you so much for making me feel comfortable for expressing myself.

Lygophilia
08-18-2018, 10:18 AM
I can't see how people stop drinking alcohol. I understand what it does to you (I use to spend 200 dollars of liquor per month, because of the way my dad was treating me, because of my sexuality and gender identity), but still. In my case, I'm inexperienced with happiness growing up, so I use alcohol and sex to cope with life. I also have hypersexual disorder. Therapy never helped me.

For the rest of what you said, I agree.

Tracii G
08-18-2018, 10:39 AM
Alcohol is a bad road to down and using it to deal/cope with life is dangerous at best.
Therapy may not have helped because you didn't want it to.Just a thought.
I have had friends die due to drugs,alcoholism and even sex(aids) so keep in mind you are dancing with the devil.

Lygophilia
08-18-2018, 11:09 AM
Alcohol is a bad road to down and using it to deal/cope with life is dangerous at best.
Therapy may not have helped because you didn't want it to.Just a thought.
I have had friends die due to drugs,alcoholism and even sex(aids) so keep in mind you are dancing with the devil.

Therapy didn't help, because all they can do is offer generic ideas on how to live a life on their terms. Programs like that are stagnation. My terms seemed a little better than their own. I don't want to force myself to live an even more miserable life, because it's acceptable to society. At best my coping brings some excitement. It's better than nothing. Right or wrong is subjective.

Amelie
08-18-2018, 11:46 AM
Therapy didn't help, because all they can do is offer generic ideas on how to live a life on their terms. Programs like that are stagnation. My terms seemed a little better than their own. I don't want to force myself to live an even more miserable life, because it's acceptable to society. At best my coping brings some excitement. It's better than nothing. Right or wrong is subjective.



As I read your words I get the strange feeling that I wrote them. You say things exactly how I feel. I don't know your age Lygophilia but I do hope you continue on a path in life that you desire. Keep well.


To the original post. It doesn't matter where one goes in life they will always run into someone telling them they are wrong in what they are doing. Whether it be personal like trans/cds or even in silly things like hobbies. There will always be people telling one that they are wrong in the way they go about their lives. I have been told many times from people that I am wrong with the way I live. I try not to label myself as cd or transsexual. I don't care what people think I am so I don't even answer them. Just live life the way you want, there are no rules.

docrobbysherry
08-18-2018, 11:48 AM
Lygophilia, I'm wondering how your drinking and sexual disorder affects your dressing/trans situation?

I'll bet that's been a hot mess on it's own plane!? Maybe you're still resolving those issues, too?:straightface:

Aunt Kelly
08-18-2018, 12:27 PM
Yes, Cassandra. Sometimes people with issues are just people with issues. It is not a product of their gender identity.

Katrina, I don't see that - TS members here pushing Cd's to admit that it's "more than a hobby". What I do see, often, are TS's telling those who are nowhere near that end of the spectrum to be cautious about pushing themselves that way. Typically, it's one of the constantly appearing "should I start HRT" threads. Not saying that those aren't valid questions, but I most certainly am noting that the responses are nothing like, "Yes. Come join the club."

KatrinaK
08-18-2018, 12:46 PM
Aunt Kelly, totally appreciate what you're saying. This site seems to have a much more tolerant and moderate group as compared to the experiences that the OP was referring to. I was illustrating a counter-balance to that point of view. But as always, I appreciate you keeping me honest!

Teresa
08-18-2018, 02:11 PM
Alexis,
Maybe the majority are more inclined toward your friend's thoughts , many of the threads here are about CDers wanting to escape the closet and a DADT situation and find ways of moving on to find themsleves . It sounds as if your friends genuinely wanted to help you , the problem is you don't know yet what you need help with . Very few of us are static , what we believe is right today may not apply tomorrow , some of your behaviour simply sounds like a phase you're going through , you're at a low ebb and trying to find a way out .

There are no rules , and at times it feels like others are trying to lead you down the wrong road , I have been told several time that I should really be on hormones because I would make a good TS candidate , some think I'm a natural . It doesn't scare me the same anymore because I'm beginning to find myself , I see no real benefits from going further down the TS road , I'm very comfortable where I am now . That is the bottom line for you, you have to find your true comfort level and not be influenced by others but it does take time .
I can see my comments echoe Aunt Kelly . If you aren't at a certain stage you can't join our exclusive club ! Well there are many unhappy TSs about that are full of regret .

You use " Toxic " a great deal but maybe you are overstating it most people really do want to help , it's up to you to discover the ones that can do that for you , you need to find the ones you trust .

Tracii G
08-18-2018, 11:10 PM
Lygophilia you are free to make your own choices so whatever works for you.

aLEXisREX
08-19-2018, 01:38 AM
Therapy didn't help, because all they can do is offer generic ideas on how to live a life on their terms. Programs like that are stagnation. My terms seemed a little better than their own. I don't want to force myself to live an even more miserable life, because it's acceptable to society. At best my coping brings some excitement. It's better than nothing. Right or wrong is subjective.

Right or wrong is not subjective. Beware of being stuck in a solipsistic mindset, I was once there, but I was wrong. Rights are Right, they are inherent in the universe, and anything that isn't right, is wrong. There is always a correct choice, what varies is the conditions we are in (as individuals) that differentiate a right choice or a wrong choice when it comes to things like substance use. What confuses people is that there are wrongs that are always wrong, such as theft, coercion, aggression and usury. We must practice affirmation by negation (confirm what is Right by knowing what is a wrong). There is a right way to partake in whatever inebriation technique you choose, and that is to not ab-use it. One person's use of alcohol may be wrong and the next persons' may be fine. The reason I stopped is because I know that even drinking a little is bad for my body physically. I've done so much drinking in the past that I just dont want to hurt myself anymore, so I stopped.

You should look into Natural Law principles. Believe me, I know your pain. I've been abused and addicted for most of my life and I now see that it was easy to stop once I saw that stopping would solve some major issues. There are no "normies". Some people just never develop dependencies and never abuse their vices, they just carry along well due to their conditions.

Living your life how you want is a trap that has been layed out before us by individuals such as Aleistar Crowley and the neo-satanist ideology movement and it's influence on pop culture and music. The law of Thelema: Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law. This is definitely not correct. If all we did is what we want (or lived life to simply have fun) the world would stay exactly how it is, chaos. There are rules, and if you break them you suffer. If you get others to break them for you, you suffer less; but eventually will still suffer some form of consequences, less so than those who took the wrong actions themselves. If you live by the Law of the Universe you will be free.

The best therapy is Truth and moral grounding. Read the Kybalion, that's a good start.

I dont want to sound preachy or pushy. I just want to help anyone in suffering because I have learned a lot over the last few years while hiding in my room and it's time to turn the light on.

Lygophilia
08-19-2018, 08:27 AM
Oh my goodness, Alex, you're no different than the religious kind. I'll admit my own prejudice. How one cannot be worn out of being so morally stuck up? A strange part of me likes you, meaning that you're cute with your posts, but do loosen up every once in a while, why don't you?

docrobbysherry, No problems here.

Amelie, I'm 34.

Ressie
08-19-2018, 10:16 AM
Thanks for your story and bringing this up AlexisR. At our support meeting Friday a CD showed up that only came once before 18 months ago. Her explanation of why she came back after all that time was that she had been going to another support group and she didn't seem to fit in there. She said it was more Transgender. Our group is a mix of CD-TS actually but we're very laid back. No one is pushing anything but all newbies are invited to go out dressed with the support of other members.

Beverley Sims
08-20-2018, 01:26 AM
Your friend may be misguided into thinking that everyone should be trans.

Toxic transgender movement seems harsh as a title.

Find another friend or friends who have similar interests and you may not miss your friend so much.

There has been plenty of advice already so there is no need to repeat it.

I wish you well in your endeavours.