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morgan29
09-16-2018, 11:59 PM
Some time ago a young lady had posted on this forum about being generally interested in CDs (Male to female) for romantic relationship. But not because it was some type of fetish for her but because she was genuinely insterested in CDs. From my understanding most crossdressers that are married didn’t initially reveal their cross dressing side right away to their partner. It’s usually they been married for x amount of years and finally one day they reveal to their SO of their feelings towards dressing as the opposite gender. I know that there’s probably more cisgender women on this forum that are also attracted to CDs. And I would like to know your personal opinions over all these and keep an open conversation

jennifer0918
09-17-2018, 01:12 AM
Whatever is clever I just want to dress

prene
09-17-2018, 01:34 AM
WIsh there we more out their "Girls that like Guys who dress as Girls ".
I was in a long term relationship and when I came out ... she broke it off.
I have found a few that were accepting but not to date.
I am getting afraid they are not really out there.
Hopefull

Charlotte7
09-17-2018, 02:57 AM
There really are girls out there that like guys that dress as girls, and I was very lucky to find one.

Teresa
09-17-2018, 05:04 AM
Morgan,
Back in my mid, late teens I had GFs who were perfectly OK about dressing, OK it was very much more sexual , I do believe they got as much as a high out of it as I did .

We estimate that 25% of wives /partners accompany the CDers in our social groups , I don't know all the reasons but at least they are on board .

I personally would like to get into a relationship with GG on the basis of being dressed , it does appear it could be on the cards despite the comments made by my wife .

Women are all wired differently much as we are, some will reject us and others will realise there is an attraction , we have to set aside some people saying , " You're weird !" that just stems from not being open minded and unaccepting of some people's preferences .

t-girlxsophie
09-17-2018, 07:12 AM
My now wife when we first came across each other, I say it that way as we first met online,had no clue I was a CD but I told her almost straight away and after chatting a good while,her gaining understanding along the way we met,and a little after that I introduced Sophie to her.
I decided long ago that those who are aware from the start that we dress are more of a mind to understand us and want to be with us

Sophie

phili
09-17-2018, 07:44 AM
As a child and teen I found girls basically understood the impulse to crossdress, as they were aware that they were wearing assigned clothing and grooming and had started out as more gender neutral creatures. In my 20s girls now women were being more particular about who they were getting involved with because everyone has baggage of some kind and they naturally wanted less of it. As time goes on the romance of being a girl is no longer simple and women suffer all sorts of problems just for being women, so us wanting to dress and act like women just seems weird to most.

A small slice of women are bi-natured or see cding as sexy or interesting. A small group feels cding as evidence that a man is less bound by not always pleasant masculine norms, and can understand it- with a tiny fraction of those self-possessed and immune enough to social criticism to be able to stand up for 'their' man cding inn public. It is completely understandable- if our SOs had some quirky habit we would prefer not to have to explain it to others.

All that said,many of us do want to be out and accepted, and hope for a more progressive society that would make it easier. It seems like the bravest and/or most desperate of us are going out and trying to make it more of an acceptable lifestyle choice!

Stacy Darling
09-17-2018, 08:22 AM
I've come across a few women in the past which have liked my feminine side for who I was, then I've come across the Dom fetish ones which wanted to do their thing.
I can however say that there are women out there which are attracted to us a whole package, not just a dressed up toy. I was approached a few weeks by a lady which told me how she loved to watch me perform Taiji and how beautifully I move (she watches me every week), I guess there a some women which see the whole girly package, I do!
Stacy!

sometimes_miss
09-17-2018, 10:37 AM
<snip> when I came out ... she broke it off.
I have found a few that were accepting but not to date.
I am getting afraid they are not really out there.
^this is the general experience.
There are women out there who either get turned on by it, think it's cool, or at least don't mind.
The downside is, there aren't a lot of them. With an estimated 2.5% of the male population crossdressing on a regular basis, and only about 0.5% of women even tolerating it, the number who actually like it is in the small fraction of 1%. That means if you want to find one of those women, it's going to be very, very difficult. And even after you do, you have to deal with all the other compatibility issues, too. In 20 years I've come across only a couple; one was truly mentally ill, the other, an ocean away. The rest were all just 'you accept my dysfunction, and I'll tolerate yours....maybe'; they were desperate for male attention and affection so much that they would lie about really being able to handle it.
This was backed up by my experience with a gender therapist, who told me that of couples who had come to see her, about half of the women who initially thought that they could accept it, eventually could not. This leads me to believe that those women were trying to come to grips with the idea that their man wasn't exactly what they wanted, but they did their best to accept it. In the end, they could not.
This leaves us with a very small fraction of women who will willingly date us and be happy with us the way we are. The rest who will tolerate it, will date us with the constant desire that we will stop doing it.

The best advice I've gotten, was to befriend gay women and get them to bring you along to gay women's clubs. Maybe go crossdressed a little? Maybe metrosexual style? I don't know. But I think it might work better by not trying to do things like wear padded bras/girdles, not try to change your voice to a female one, etc.; not give the impression that you don't like your own body.

JMHO

morgan29
09-17-2018, 06:17 PM
I think the message or response I was looking might have been misinterpreted by the way I written this. Sorry that’s my bad. I’m not the best of writers. But essentially what I am looking for is feedback from cisgender women who are into CD people like ourselves as to why they might be attractive to us? I am not currently looking for one. And I figure that the toll of women who are initially attracted to CD are much less than women who get marry to men who later on reveal to be CD. However I do appreciate your responses ladies.

RADER
09-17-2018, 08:23 PM
I told to my future wife that I would like to try on a fancy dress I saw on TV.
Later she asked if I ever wore w dress' I said I only have a few skirts and tops.
She wanted to see me in a skirt, so I dressed for her, and she was OK with it.
First you fall in love with someone, and the rest is just part of the package.
My Wife told others that I was a very good husband because I had a certin
way that I always treated a Lady like a Queen. I miss her, she was an Angle.
Rader

MarinaTwelve200
09-17-2018, 08:50 PM
It is a GREAT way to MEET Girls, I must say----When I shocked my Sunday School Halloween party with my "Gypsy Fortune Teller" costume---I Was the center of attention for ALL the ladies---And they ALL wanted me to tell their fortunes. (One of the only times I was ever out in public dressed)

Alice Torn
09-17-2018, 09:41 PM
I have not found a woman yet who likes it. Some say they are ok for some guys to do it, but they would never want THEIR POTENTIAL MATE DOING IT. NIMBY!!!!!!!!

Diane Smith
09-17-2018, 11:09 PM
I have been looking for such a lady for over 40 years now without success.

- Diane

sometimes_miss
09-18-2018, 12:37 AM
But essentially what I am looking for is feedback from cisgender women who are into CD people like ourselves as to why they might be attractive to us? .
MOST people have no idea why they're attracted to someone. They pretty much all just chalk it up to 'chemistry'. OH, they will SAY all sorts of things, but then date and marry someone so completely opposite from what they say they wanted in the first place.
A man who crossdresses, especially one who likes to take on female behaviors (especially female sexuality), change his voice to a feminine one, change his walk and mannerisms to the female style, generally is exhibiting everything that a straight women finds to be a turn off or even repulsive. The attraction to that, in women, is something that you'd have to study a lot of abnormal psychology to find out; things that probably aren't within the acceptable topics of discussion on this board. If you want, PM me and I can elaborate. But it won't help you find such women anyway, as they know that such behavior is looked down upon by the 'normal' people. There's no up side to having anyone know that she's dating or married to a crossdresser; there's (usually, about 99.9999% of the time) no one she can tell without feeling embarrassed.

alwayshave
09-18-2018, 06:06 AM
Really, you might have a better chance finding a unicorn. My wife is accepting and supportive, but I know she has concerns.

Rayleen
09-18-2018, 06:31 AM
After dressing at home with my wife around the nights I was not dressing she said " why don't you go put you pretty skirt and top on"

It made me happy she kind of enjoyed seeing me dressed, maybe it was a turn on for he. She was ok with me sleeping with a nighty and panties.


We have a great and honest relationship.

Aunt Kelly
09-18-2018, 11:10 PM
Don't hold your breath, Morgan. Those CIS ladies are here, but you might turn blue before they check in. LOL

suzanne
09-19-2018, 01:34 AM
I think liking someone because they are a CD is no better than disliking them because they are a CD. It suggests objectification, maybe even a fetish, in spite of what they want to tell you. You like someone for their looks or personality or some other quality, and crossdressing can be a factor but not a priority.

Samm
09-19-2018, 05:28 AM
Really, you might have a better chance finding a unicorn. My wife is accepting and supportive, but I know she has concerns.

My wife is the same way, Jamie. Funny thing though, she was talking about wanting to be a unicorn for Halloween the other day lol.

Bea_
09-19-2018, 08:24 AM
My take is that I just want one woman who likes me as a 'guy who likes girl things'. The 'girls who like guys who dress as girls' thing is kinda like being a guy who likes 'fat women' rather than a man who loves the curves and softness of a certain woman.

Aesthetically, I can appreciate the the full spectrum of feminine beauty, but relationally, if that's a word, I'm totally monogamous and appreciate the full spectrum of my wife's beauty, whether it's no makeup at the breakfast table to all glammed up for a night out. She was a size 0 when we married and she's not now. Age, genetics and illness/meds have added a few extra inches to my wife's figure and I wouldn't change it at all. And if it did change, I'd adapt, because that's who she is. I appreciated her body as an 18 year old bride and I like her body as a sixty something beauty.


I often wish she felt the same way. She's reluctantly tolerant, but wishes my style would go back to being traditional male...

LilSissyStevie
09-19-2018, 11:46 AM
Girls who are boys
Who like boys to be girls
Who do boys like they're girls
Who do girls like they're boys
Always should be someone you really love

Girls&Boys --Blur

Maybe a better song for this thread would be:

Dream On -- Aerosmith

Eboni Robinson
09-19-2018, 11:56 AM
For a lot of crossdressers, it feels like that "miracle" may never ever happen. I know women like that are out there, but will I ever meet and form some kind of relationship with.

cassandra006
09-19-2018, 03:19 PM
My Ex-gf and SO is now my "roommate" she shops woman clothing with me,then back home she tells me "go get shower and get rid of new body hair, I want to see you in these new dress/skirt we just got" call me girl name when no one else around. can't go much more then that with gg.

Lucy23
09-19-2018, 04:30 PM
My limited personal experience mirrors the experience of many of you here. I know of many women who think that a man dressed in women's clothes is rather weird, to say the least. Then there are women, fewer in numbers, that are accepting if it is someone else than a potential mate.

And then there is my current girlfriend. I can't really state how lucky I am, the fact almost makes me not posting this. Before I met her, I lost any hope of ever meeting a girl and pretty much decided that I would never make any attempt at relationships because I didn't want to waste anyone's time being with me. Anyway, this girl approached me, and I gave it a shot. I told her after a few dates as I knew this is something I had to make clear sooner rather than later.

She is unbelievably accepting, including making suggestions on outfits, quietly winking on clothes in stores that she thinks would look good on me, even borrowing something from me, and actually liking this part of me.

There are women who are happily acccepting, but I'm afraid they are few and far between.

Sissy_in_pink
09-19-2018, 04:52 PM
I figured that if a girl knows you are a crossdresser before she starts dating you then she can't complain that you lied to her. So on this dating site I put that I am a crossdresser, well I get a message from a lady stating that if I removed the fact that I'm a crossdresser that I would have a better chance of getting dates. Go figure. Damned if you do damned if you don't.

monika
09-19-2018, 07:02 PM
I think there are lots of women who likes and tolerates what we do, talk to many!��

Beverley Sims
09-20-2018, 04:43 AM
I had four of them once as we all shared a house together, I was their bodyguard, they liked to have a man about the house, even if the neighbors did not see the man.

Di
09-20-2018, 08:33 PM
Just saying .......

I know 6 couples ( off the top of my head) that met here on the forum. Met the love of my life right here on cd.com

Becky Blue
09-20-2018, 09:40 PM
Fascinating thread, i think the OP was hoping for GG's to answer, but a great thread anyway

Firstly i think there is a big difference between a woman's views of a CD/TG and their Husband/SO being a CD/TG
I also agree with Phili younger woman seem to be more understanding of the whole thing.

Many years ago.. BB (Before Becky) I was at my then girlfriends empty house, out of the blue she said I wonder what you would look like in my clothes, lets go see... having only CD on occasion, I played along... we went to her room, she stared taking clothes out of her closet and her parents came home 3 hours early as her mother was sick... I never got to find out what she had in mind, I don't know it it were sexual or not... alas we broke up soon after.. years later AB (After Becky) i often wonder if my life would have taken a different turn had we not been interrupted.

docrobbysherry
09-20-2018, 11:30 PM
Look at it this way:

If there were a lot of GG's interested in dressers? There'd be regular guys dressing up to attract those women. Then, some politicians would be trying to pass more laws against "men in dresses"!

So, in a way, it's a blessing more GG's aren't attracted to us!:devil:

Charlotte7
09-21-2018, 01:41 AM
Doc, "If there were more ..." then there would be male politicians wearing dresses.

DaisyLawrence
09-21-2018, 02:44 AM
Just saying .......

I know 6 couples ( off the top of my head) that met here on the forum. Met the love of my life right here on cd.com

And if that doesn't pull your heart strings nothing will. :) :)

Veronica4me
09-21-2018, 10:35 AM
I think the message or response I was looking might have been misinterpreted by the way I written this. Sorry that’s my bad. I’m not the best of writers. But essentially what I am looking for is feedback from cisgender women who are into CD people like ourselves as to why they might be attractive to us? I am not currently looking for one. And I figure that the toll of women who are initially attracted to CD are much less than women who get marry to men who later on reveal to be CD. However I do appreciate your responses ladies.

The attraction is as varied as our reasons for dressing en femme. It certainly would be nice to find someone looking for a CD, but all of the dating sites for CDs I have found are basically for hookups. There are no women looking for long-term relationships. I gave up on the search for a woman that way. Drop the s on CD.com, and you'll see whatI mean.

Isabella Ross
09-21-2018, 11:13 AM
One of the fortunate ones who married a woman who is not only supportive, but often intrigued as well. I had a few drinks with a couple of 20-somethings the other night, and it's amazing how things have changed...so much more fluid and accepting.

Nikki A.
09-21-2018, 06:42 PM
I'll say that there are lots of women who are accepting as friends, but not as mates. Yes there are exceptions but not very many.
Some are afraid that they will be dumped if we transition, some are afraid they won't be able to compete with the "other woman". Others just may never understand what or why we do what we do.
I have two single GG friends who are very accepting but I know that I'll never be in a relationship with either. I am seeing someone on an on and off relationship, but I think if I told her it would be over. Whatever, eventually I'll get around to it and let the chips fall where they may. I've tried to tell her many times but the time was never right or I chickened out.

docrobbysherry
09-21-2018, 07:42 PM
Doc, "If there were more ..." then there would be male politicians wearing dresses.
Funny, Charlotte!:heehee:
But, sadly I think it's true!:doh:

fashionisto
09-23-2018, 10:33 AM
I find your stories most depressing. I'd like to add my own 2p in the hope of encouraging someone. I discovered that, If I want to meet women, I go to parties in a super stylish flamboyant sexy dress. For me, that works much better than dressing in drab. The best are drag venues (I consider myself a drag queen), where you can be sure the visitors like drag. I have plenty of women swoon over me every time! Note, I am from the Netherlands. So maybe the answer is, move to the Netherlands!

cdsamswife
09-23-2018, 11:53 AM
I guess I fit in to the category of being a gg attracted to my husband whether he is cd-ing or not. We are relatively younger... in our 30s and I grew up in Canada where things are pretty liberal.... I had an elementary school teacher that transitioned from man to woman and we all took a sensitivity course... so... I think maybe my views have been pretty open at a young age. I found out about my husbands cd-ing while we were emgaged... he didnt tell me... I found out when I was doing laundry... that there were ladies clothes that werent mine. and I wqs angry about that for a while... I was also extremely upset that while we were dating he had cheated on my physically with another cd-er... but I was never mad at him for actually crossdressing... to me.. hes still the same man I fell in love with.. I dont mind it and I help him pick out outfits... put on makeup etc.

I dont know if I would actively seek out a partner that cds....but having a crossdressing husband has its perks. He can help me shop for clothes... he understands when Im complaining about hiding bra straps etc.. I hope all of you the best in finding love :)

MisterEgurl
10-01-2018, 10:35 AM
"Girls that like Guys who dress as Girls"? I'm sure they exist. I'm sure there are people out there with any imaginable view on any given topic and I know there are women out there who are into crossdressers. I personally know a lady-friend who is obsessed with drag queens and female impersonators but when I asked her if she'd ever DATE a crossdresser she quickly backpedaled proving to be a NIMBR (Not In My Bed Room). Personally, I've given up on the notion of finding an accepting SO. I refuse to hide my crossdressing from anyone I'd be in a relationship with which has caused me to put finding a life partner out of my mind.

SO1Adam12
10-01-2018, 11:14 PM
AS a GG with a CDing SO, I think it's unlikely you'll find a woman interested in a CDer. I, as well as I believe most of the GG's on this forum support our SO's CDing because we support them. My SO brought his CDing out gradually. It started with strictly sexual connotations (wanting to wear my bra while we were having sex, then panties, shoes, etc. After many years he's just recently started with makeup, wig, dresses etc. Do I find it attractive, honestly no. It doesn't excite me sexually however we often have sex while he's dressed, especially shoes.

I admire you not wanting to lie to any person you're in a relationship with, but I think it's something to expose slowly, not to fool them, but to let them get used to the idea. If they don't then, well, move on.