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Eemz
01-24-2019, 07:58 PM
OK so here's a fun idea I had recently, based on a comment someone else made elsewhere in this forum.

It's a role reversal game to try and get a better perspective on the other side of CD in a relationship.

Let's suppose your wife/SO came home one day and told you that when you're out of town she likes to put on a plaid shirt, work boots and a ZZTop beard and go about her daily life. Not only that, but she's being doing it secretly for years and now she wants to dress that way more often, and ideally with your help. Maybe even go for beers, trucks, fishing, guy stuff. Actually she has an assortment of beards and other stuff she's been hiding all these years. At some point she'd possibly like to introduce it into the bedroom, maybe dressed as a lumberjack, but we don't have to go that far yet.

How would you feel about that?

Oldlvb
01-24-2019, 08:07 PM
I think that I would open minded but that is a great question to ask ourselves because that is pretty much what we are asking of our spouses and girlfriends.

Crissy 107
01-24-2019, 08:12 PM
Ok, the plaid shirts and work boots I can maybe be ok with but the ZZ Top beard a no go for sure.
Now if she has legs and knows how to use them....

ClosetED
01-24-2019, 08:21 PM
My wife got a play beard and did something like that - I was willing to try it. Because if it made her happy to try it, I would try it. Now if she had strap on and wanted that, that is different. Or another person
Ellen

Eemz
01-24-2019, 08:26 PM
Yeah that’s just it Crissy. She hates having shave legs and wants to grow them out...

Hell on Heels
01-24-2019, 08:51 PM
Hell-o Eemz,
Would she let me borrow her truck?
Much Love,
Kristyn

Side note, the drummer of ZZ Top was the band member without a beard.
His name???Frank Beard.

docrobbysherry
01-24-2019, 08:57 PM
I'd love it! Like having a new Best Buddy! I'd take her out to the truck stop on 95 for beers and their $4.95 dinner specials.:D

Or, go shoot pool at Ed's Downtown Bar and Grill!:drink:

Babbs
01-24-2019, 09:26 PM
Maybe she starts to watch the Pat's Games with me...lol. I get your point though...she better not introduce that into the bedroom though...that I don't kid about...oh boy, shooting down my thinking of telling the wife

Tina June
01-24-2019, 09:26 PM
Interesting idea!
I am not sure how I would feel about it. This might take some time to digest.


OK - I think I might have an idea how she feels.

AndreaCalifCD
01-24-2019, 09:30 PM
So long as no actual ZZ Top "songs" were involved - I'd have to draw the line at that...

2B Natasha
01-24-2019, 09:35 PM
Well first I would ask her why it took so long to come out to me. I came out to her a long time ago. What was she waiting for? Then I would ask her if she’s gay, repeatably. I had to listen to it from her and she was hiding this. So she can listen to it until it’s really irritating. In the middle of allThat I would ask her what her end game is. Where does she want to be and does she plan on becoming a man. After I was really annoying about it. THEN I would ask her if she wanted to go anywhere? Like to a bar. How do you see this man that you present? Is he a macho man? A hipster? A lumbersexual? Woodsman, sportsman. What. And what would you like to do with this and the two of us? Do you see me as the lady in the man’s arm? I expect you to hold open doors and the like if that’s the case. And hand over your credit card. I’m going shopping.

Cheers.

Leonora
01-24-2019, 09:54 PM
Well it would be a complete turn around for us and maybe explain what they feel when we want to wear women clothes. It something to think about.

Crissy 107
01-24-2019, 09:59 PM
Yeah that’s just it Crissy. She hates having shave legs and wants to grow them out...
Eemz, One word from where I come from, Forgetaboutit!

Patience
01-24-2019, 10:47 PM
If women would be ZZ Top, what would webe? The Spice Girls?

Kelli_cd
01-25-2019, 12:16 AM
She could be my Sharp-Dressed Man!

EmilyGarden
01-25-2019, 12:36 AM
A ZZTop test would be rough. My wife has been into Bastille alot lately. That would be an easier test.

sometimes_miss
01-25-2019, 01:04 AM
You're preaching to the choir, here, Eemz. We know what it feels like to want to cross the gender lines, so it's much more likely that we'd understand why a woman might want to don OUR outfits and role behavior on occasion.

Stephanie47
01-25-2019, 01:18 AM
Your scenario is pretty much why I honor my wife's declination to participate in my desire to wear women's clothing. I know many women who are rabid baseball and football fans. I know many who golf and fish. I don't golf and fish, although I like to cook and bake. I also clean the house.....women's work? I have seen some drop dead gorgeous women in flannel shirts (men's), work boots, and, men's tee shirt. Hard hat too. The beard/facial hair and the strap on would be going a little bit too far.

Now, what would you say if your wife was attired as you suggest, and, ordered you into a slinky nightie, wig and makeup when you came home from work? Willing to do the role reversal all the way? All the way?

Tracii G
01-25-2019, 01:34 AM
I see a lot of lies in the future of this thread.
Not many here will admit they would go off the deep end in a situation like that.

Beverley Sims
01-25-2019, 02:26 AM
Was never a fan of ZZ top although when I was single a couple of my girlfriends did dress like Marlene Dietrich in top hat, shorts and tails and we went out clubbing like this.

Had a lot of fun too. :-)

Nikkilovesdresses
01-25-2019, 04:53 AM
My wife, petite and feminine, has a closet full of beautiful designer clothes, but much of the time she dresses in boots, work pants and plaid shirts- because her passion is working in stone and metal. This has never been a problem for me, and she does it for purely practical reasons.

Wearing a fake beard would however be a very different thing. And you're right- it would be distinctly weird.

Nobody ever said understanding Cding was simple.

- - - Updated - - -


Now, what would you say if your wife was attired as you suggest, and, ordered you into a slinky nightie, wig and makeup when you came home from work? Willing to do the role reversal all the way? All the way?

Oh yeah, hell yeah. But I'm bi, so it would simply be fitting in with my fantasies.

Macey
01-25-2019, 04:53 AM
This is an interesting thread, and I'll try to keep the response brief!

My wife doesn't crossdress, apart from wearing 'manly' clothes from time to time as fashion the way a lot of GGs might do (and rocks the look!), but she has flirted with the idea. It was one of those moments that made me go " … huh …". I'm on board if she ever wants to explore that more deeply. Why? Because long before any of this I fell in love with a person. I love my wife. I didn't fall in love with a hairstyle, clothes, an image, or even a set of genitals, but with a person. She sometimes stresses over her aging face and body, and to me, she is MORE beautiful than ever.

As for the bedroom … maybe it is strange for some, but I'm not homosexual, bi-sexual, nor even heterosexual. I am (my wife's name)-sexual. Although I can admire beauty in another, it really doesn't do anything for me, I am turned on by my spouse. Whatever we wish to explore or not in our intimate lives is fine with me, provided it is for us and not for other people.

LaurenS
01-25-2019, 06:18 AM
I see a lot of lies in the future of this thread.
Not many here will admit they would go off the deep end in a situation like that.

Very good point.

Connie D50
01-25-2019, 06:42 AM
I can't even think what I would do. Not sure anyone on this site could, please I'm not trying to speak for everyone. It's just to truly answer this question you would have to clear your DNA and mind of all your own person feeling of crossdressing. Then I could put myself in my wifes shoes (lol).
Now in my current frame of mind if she want to role play and take me out to a nice dinner and dancing I'm all in.

Stacy Darling
01-25-2019, 06:46 AM
This type of thing doesn't end pretty if YOU are Femme!
My first wife was super dominant and most powerful, and she could possibly pull of the ZZtop look in her romper stomper boots!

This topic always gets to me as I'm a pretty placid chick, and so gently femme as my cd self!

Guess being abused by my former wife can be seen in my words!

SaraLin
01-25-2019, 06:47 AM
Well - my first reaction would be shock, since she hasn't shown ANY inclination before this.

My second reaction would be "H-m-m-m. Maybe we can switch roles. (s)he can be the man of the family and I can be the lady of the house. Win-win!"

After that, I'd consider various combinations. We could also have girls' time, guys' time, and even regular "normal" time... options that don't even exist in most relationships.

About the bedroom, I don't think I could do the male to male thing. I'm just not turned on by that (but that's just me). I'm pretty sure though that I could be the girl with my partner as either one. But a ZZ top beard would probably get in the way.

Of course, the OP question is somewhat invalid with me, since I'm already gender non-conforming. Ask that same question of a non-T* person and the answer would be a whole lot different.

Mermaiden
01-25-2019, 07:05 AM
Can’t see it happening, but if it did, then I echo Chrissy, “everybody loves a sharp dressed ‘man’”, so sure, I’d put on a “pearl necklace” and go for it.
More seriously, I mostly want to her to be happy and to share as much of our lives as we can. Everything else can fit around that.

annecwesley
01-25-2019, 07:05 AM
I don't think there is a symmetry between male and female crossdressing. Women can and do wear men's clothing in public without having to disguise their gender - men cannot do so quite as easily. Nobody cares if a woman is wearing a plaid shirt, and work boots. And women who do "guy stuff" are admired these days. A woman doesn't have to wear a fake beard to wear guy jeans, a plaid shirt and work boots, but if a guy goes out shopping or shows up to work in a dress, stockings and high heals he's going to get attention, even unwanted attention.

Lydianne
01-25-2019, 08:06 AM
+1 to what Tracii said. I'll take it further though. We don't even need to think about your very obvious flipped scenario. Just ask those within our community who do not require the full makeup transformation to fulfill their gender expression needs how welcome they feel among the rest of the majority here. That will tell you everything you need to know about the values we hold.

- Lydianne.

Ressie
01-25-2019, 08:35 AM
I would pretend to be completely accepting for a few months. Then I would bring her to divorce court and tell all of her friends what a freak she is!

Maria_mtf
01-25-2019, 08:36 AM
Well first I would ask her why it took so long to come out to me. I came out to her a long time ago. What was she waiting for? Then I would ask her if she’s gay, repeatably. I had to listen to it from her and she was hiding this. So she can listen to it until it’s really irritating. In the middle of allThat I would ask her what her end game is. Where does she want to be and does she plan on becoming a man. After I was really annoying about it. THEN I would ask her if she wanted to go anywhere? Like to a bar. How do you see this man that you present? Is he a macho man? A hipster? A lumbersexual? Woodsman, sportsman. What. And what would you like to do with this and the two of us? Do you see me as the lady in the man’s arm? I expect you to hold open doors and the like if that’s the case. And hand over your credit card. I’m going shopping.

Cheers.

Personally I thought that was hilarious :-)

I actually thought about this question the other day and surely the answer has to be we would be supportive, since that is what we crave in return.

GretchenM
01-25-2019, 08:41 AM
I assume I would be understanding because I am a type of trans person and therefore understand that such things happen - happened to me so why not her? That said, it would still require an adjustment and a bit of adaptation. However, to keep the switch around in this question valid we need to assume that we are not the way we are and are solidly cisgender. The answer to the equation is very different in that case. I think it is important for us to consider this question very seriously to achieve some empathy with the SO.

Krisi
01-25-2019, 09:01 AM
The real question is, Why do men dress as women but women not dress as men (with the exception of some lesbians)? We have web forums, we have specialty stores, we have transformation services. Women have nothing.


Now to answer the question, It would be unfair for a crossdressing husband to forbid his wife from dressing as a man. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. It would be interesting.

Maria in heels
01-25-2019, 09:02 AM
Wow that is a really good question. Would I like it...honestly, yes because she allows Maria to be around, so why wouldn't I give her the same treatment? IN the bedroom, I wouldn't be 100% the first time, and it would be different, but if I were Maria I get to notch one off right? :daydreaming:

phili
01-25-2019, 09:56 AM
I think the array of answers points to the dilemma of crossdressing- the internal aspirational part gets linked to the external symbolic part. We are trying to 'look like' in order to be 'treated like' , but this actually means we want others to 'feel attracted to us as'- and that last part is not something that we can accomplish unless someone is objectifying us [tranny chasers].

We can pretty much all be fine with staying attracted to our wives if they want to role reverse - because we imagine them as they are being attracted to us as we want to be. But as the costuming becomes ever more artificial- we find it obstructs our emotions- we can't touch their beard and nuzzle because it is fake- unless we suspend our natural emotions or enter far into the drama and pretend it is real. Pretending and feeling authentic in relationship are mutually exclusive- so we have to multitask!

And in a sense perhaps we do that for ourselves as well-. Perhaps we have to multitask when looking at our gorgeous smile and perfect make up [while checking for beard traces or minimizing our adam's apple, or admiring our glorious head of hair and not seeing a wig, or in my case, reacting with desire by seeing my muscular man's legs or exaggerated [fake] hippiness from my flared skirt as if female and ...

So I can understand my wife simply does not want to substitute the fake appearance aspects for any part of the real. I am sure my disguising my male physique and communicating with symbols of femaleness simply seems like a weird workaround for a problem she doesn't understand. She is a real woman- it is not magic- why do I think it is- she asks? And she is right- I am trying to solve a problem with how I feel in the world- and my solution is symbolic- and needs to mature into something more real in my emotional state with others who are- in their view- rooted in the real world where males and females just do the best they can with the cards society deals- with the help of friends and SOs.

So if my wife wanted to role reverse and CD- I would be happy- we could compare notes on how it was working and how to find our authentic selves without props. Props are a huge part of life- so maybe there isn't a way !

Julia Welch
01-25-2019, 11:10 AM
Apart from the beard, don't they already do all of that already?
Yeah … they do

Meghan4now
01-25-2019, 11:25 AM
The real question is, Why do men dress as women but women not dress as men (with the exception of some lesbians)? We have web forums, we have specialty stores, we have transformation services. Women have nothing.


Now to answer the question, It would be unfair for a crossdressing husband to forbid his wife from dressing as a man. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. It would be interesting.

Hmmm, interesting thought, but the whole premise is really apples to oranges, or is that melons to bananas?

Anyway to a point, there is some speculation on the concept that men, driven by testosterone, have a higher incidence of sexual interests including "fetish" which may be true for some crossdressers. Additionally, acceptability in variance of presentation, clothing and hair style for women is wider, so if a woman wants to look a little more Butch, it is not controversial. Therefore, the "need" or desire for female to male crossdressing is much smaller market.

Now to the OP posit, if my wife felt very compelled, I would have to learn to adapt a bit, and yes there could be a challenge or two. However, I think presentation would be a driver. I don't like an unkempt male presentation anyore than a sloven female presentation. You won't catch me looking like something from a people of Walmart video, and I would expect the same of my mate.

Krea
01-25-2019, 11:58 AM
This is a very good question.
Honest answer, i could be ok with her wanting to CD FTM, but only to a point. Clothes yes, but not something really masculine-looking like a ZZ Top chin-warmer. That just wouldn't appeal to me.:sigh:
Coincidentally, this is a similar level of tolerance that my wife shows to my MTF CDing. She doesn't mind the clothes but makeup, wig, forms would be too much for her. (Fortunately i do not want these anyway.)
How would i feel about her wanting to CD if i wasn't a CDer? I dunno, because i am....

Micki_Finn
01-25-2019, 12:36 PM
A lot of you seem to be fine with the clothes and a fake beard. What if she wanted to stop shaving her legs and armpits? Or wanted to grow a beer-belly? Or even more dramatic, go on hormones so she could grow her own beard? Or have her breasts removed?

Mickitv
01-25-2019, 01:03 PM
I do love the question because it challenges our inner feminine soul. I would have to say that although I am not a fan of the ZZ top kind of a man I would let her be whom she wants to be. The real question since I am still DADT would I now bring out my feelings and tell her about me. Although I do believe she has very large suspicions oabout my femininity.

Asew
01-25-2019, 02:16 PM
I would accepting of most everything except maybe kissing her with the beard would be something I would probably avoid. I feel like those on this site would be more accepting or at least tolerating because we selfishly want the same thing for ourselves. If we weren't CDers, would we feel the same? I feel like there would a lot less acceptance and tolerance from non-CDer husbands if their wives choose this ZZTop path.

Leslie Langford
01-25-2019, 02:23 PM
OK so here's a fun idea I had recently, based on a comment someone else made elsewhere in this forum.

It's a role reversal game to try and get a better perspective on the other side of CD in a relationship.

Let's suppose your wife/SO came home one day and told you that when you're out of town she likes to put on a plaid shirt, work boots and a ZZTop beard and go about her daily life. Not only that, but she's being doing it secretly for years and now she wants to dress that way more often, and ideally with your help. Maybe even go for beers, trucks, fishing, guy stuff. Actually she has an assortment of beards and other stuff she's been hiding all these years. At some point she'd possibly like to introduce it into the bedroom, maybe dressed as a lumberjack, but we don't have to go that far yet.

How would you feel about that?

Well...maybe...O.K. with it...

As long as "She's Got Legs..." ;) :heehee: :D

Gillian Gigs
01-25-2019, 02:55 PM
I have known many women that have dressed in mens apparel. For many of them, they were thought as just being "one of the guys". They usually wore there hair very short, a flannel type shirt, regular fitting jeans and hiking boots. The ones' I knew were very into the out doors, adventure, and for the most part very athletic. They dressed that way 95% of the time, but when they went out to a wedding, or fancy party, boy did they turn a lot of heads. I believe that they were dressing for their own comfort, and life style that they were living. They also seemed to know how to get a guys attention when they wanted to!

I guess in looking at this thread one has to ask themselves what is their motive for dressing the way that they do. There are too many motives for CD'ing, so I'm not going any farther!

Ressie
01-25-2019, 03:09 PM
A lot of you seem to be fine with the clothes and a fake beard. What if she wanted to stop shaving her legs and armpits? Or wanted to grow a beer-belly? Or even more dramatic, go on hormones so she could grow her own beard? Or have her breasts removed?

This is a more realistic scenario. There are transmen that go thru those changes and it's possible that someone's wife didn't realize she was trans before getting married. If I had a wife that suddenly realized she was trans, I would be OK with it. Whether or not I stayed with her is another question that would be answered down the road. But I wouldn't hold her back from transitioning is that's what she wanted.

Meghan4now
01-25-2019, 03:53 PM
A lot of you seem to be fine with the clothes and a fake beard. What if she wanted to stop shaving her legs and armpits? Or wanted to grow a beer-belly? Or even more dramatic, go on hormones so she could grow her own beard? Or have her breasts removed?
Two very different scenarios. Transition vs CD. And I would be really concerned if she wanted a beer belly, most guys DONT want that, it just happens.


Hair, I guess I could get used to. Full transition, maybe not, unless we both did? Hard to say, as people often find their response to reality differs from speculation.

Lux
01-25-2019, 04:13 PM
Great topic, made me apprecite how much my wife has accepted me unconditionally over the years. Thanks for the post OP

Leelou
01-25-2019, 06:10 PM
Well...maybe...O.K. with it...

As long as "She's Got Legs..." ;) :heehee: :D

And she's wearing "Cheap Sunglasses" :shades:

Macey
01-25-2019, 06:12 PM
C'mon now, unshaved legs and armpits are a problem? I can't imagine dictating to a loved one what they must, or must not do with their own body hair. Aw heck, my first wife was the 'granola' type who at times let her leg hair grow. A-Okay with me.

susan54
01-25-2019, 06:56 PM
I like to think I approach everything from first principles. Sauce for the goose and all that. I would have no problem seeing a female partner in that sort of outfit - I would still see HER. False beard fine - real one a real turn-off. But a real one would be more than cross-dressing. I genuinely believe there is more to a woman than how she looks and her body hair - I still prefer to see a woman in a dress or skirt and looking femininely elegant - I just wouldn't insist on it because I don't think I have that right.

erinna
01-25-2019, 10:51 PM
I think I would likely draw the line with the beard in the bedroom thing. We would have to reach a compromise on that if she wanted my participation.

Now with that being said, if she were good on the guitar then we could form a really great FTM-MTF rock band as long as the only zz top song was "heard it on the x".

Rhonda Darling
01-25-2019, 11:19 PM
Well...maybe...O.K. with it...

As long as "She's Got Legs..." ;) :heehee: :D

Leslie:

They've all got legs, that's not the question!



Question is, "Does. she know how to use them?

:tongueout

Celee
01-26-2019, 01:24 AM
It depends. If she Just Got Paid Today and Had a Pocket Full of Change then I say let’s go!

Karen RHT
01-26-2019, 08:39 AM
I'd be fine with it, but...also very tempted to "play the pay back is a biatch" game. Especially when it came to her stepping outside as "him." I wonder how frustrated she would feel about being confined when she is driven to explore.


Karen

SHINY-J
01-26-2019, 04:10 PM
It’s a fair question and a very solid counterpoint scenario...

Having been married before, I can attest that after a few years, the romance flames die down and couples get much more “comfortable”... legs not being shaved as often... sweatpants and tee shirts.. no makeup... etc... it’s just normal... that’s not lumberjack, but after several days of unshaven legs, it could get pretty damn close to it!

There’s part of me that would be perfectly fine with that lumberjack example... personally, I don’t get it, but I also understand how many people out there don’t “get it” as to my dressing desires. But it doesn’t have make sense for them... it just has to make sense for me.. However, that’s completely different in a committed relationship... something like that has to be for both of us.

I have my own CDing desires and am much more empathetic and supportive to those that want to explore these types of things... But, I also think it’s mainly because I would think it would give me more justification and opportunities to dress femme. So, while I may not be completely on board with her doing it in terms of being excited and turned on by it, I think I would still be supportive even if my motives were not completely for her happiness , but more 50/50.. half would be to support her needs, wants, and desires, but also half to feel like I have the chance to explore my own dressing desires.

However, my CDing is essentially a sexual fetish and not something where I want to identify as a certain gender, live my life as a woman, etc...

the act of dressing and the types of sexy, outrageous femme clothes I wear are the same that I desire to see women in as well. It’s my kink. my fetish... my “thang”... I’m extremely turned on by leather, latex, sexy lingerie, sexy clothes, heavy makeup, big, teased hair, big boobs, big butts, womanly curves, sky high stiletto heels and thigh high platform boots, etc...

So, I love bombshell women... and while I would be fine with them exploring a “lumberjack/zztop” style, I could also see the initial Novelty and charm of it wearing thin if it became an everyday thing as I also love to see women fully dolled and dressed up too! So, in that aspect, I suppose I’m a hypocrite. All the more reason why I don’t pursue relationships with women that I think wouldn’t be on board with my dressing. Trouble is, I’m petrified to share it with the wrong woman and have my secret spilled in public... so, I may have split it off with women that would’ve been okay with it, but I assumed they wouldn’t be.. Which is a self-caused carousel of perpetual misery and failed relationships... but that’s another discussion.��

And as far as introducing it into the bedroom, I’m sure I would be okay with it as long as I was able to dress femme. In fact I can say with absolute certainty that I would embrace it initially... thing is, i don’t know how “on board” I would be long term, because I haven’t had more than a couple of relationships with women that knew about my dressing and had sex while dressed.

Because I’m so closeted and inexperienced at dressing with anyone other than myself, my imagination, fantasies, and desires run VERY deep and VERY wide! And while I initially fantasized about Victoria’s Secret models having sex with me dressed en femme, time and experience have me fantasizing about dressing with men, women, CDs, etc.. basically, anyone! I just want to finally dress en femme and be in the same room with an actual person! Lol.

Shayna
01-26-2019, 06:36 PM
Well, first I would wonder why it’s ok for her to go out, but she doesn’t want to know about my dressing.

Honestly, I would be fine with any dressing, fake facial hair, even not shavings orbputs, but I wouldn’t be comfortable with hormones or the idea of her going full time with a beard. I would be fine if she adopted some more masculine clothes in her everyday presentation, but not to the point where she’s basically presenting as a man 24/7, because that’s not who I married (which is why I understand her aversion to my dressing)

JocelynJames
01-26-2019, 08:01 PM
I would think aliens replaced her as she likes none of those things. If it truly made her happy, I would indulge her as she has me. I would try to understand it and be supportive. Im not saying I would encourage this but I would definitely try to take advantage by having her snowblower, mow the lawn, change oil etc

DivaB
01-27-2019, 12:21 PM
Interesting question, not sure I would be ready yo take it public though.

abbiedrake
01-27-2019, 09:41 PM
Ok, can I ask why no-one so far has made a Zipper Job joke??
Also, Mermaiden, I don't think you'd wanna wear the kind of Pearl Necklace them Texans were singing about! (Or maybe you would 😬)

Buse
01-29-2019, 12:31 PM
firstly I definitely want her to shave that beard. after then I want her body not to smell bad . together I'd take her tuxedo by shopping . :battingeyelashes:

KimberlyJean
01-30-2019, 06:42 PM
As long as there is a give and take I am good with whatever makes both of us happy. If she wants to wear flannel and a beard I am wearing what I want to wear.

CynthiaD
01-30-2019, 08:30 PM
I don't know whether my wife has a hidden stash of beards, but she definitely favors plaid shirts and work boots. She also likes to do traditionally male things. I don't think a hidden stash of beards would faze me much.

Kelly DeWinter
01-30-2019, 10:13 PM
We would have to establish a DADT agreement regarding ANY plaid shirts.

Stephanie D
02-01-2019, 12:19 PM
OK so here's a fun idea I had recently, based on a comment someone else made elsewhere in this forum.

It's a role reversal game to try and get a better perspective on the other side of CD in a relationship.

Let's suppose your wife/SO came home one day and told you that when you're out of town she likes to put on a plaid shirt, work boots and a ZZTop beard and go about her daily life. Not only that, but she's being doing it secretly for years and now she wants to dress that way more often, and ideally with your help. Maybe even go for beers, trucks, fishing, guy stuff. Actually she has an assortment of beards and other stuff she's been hiding all these years. At some point she'd possibly like to introduce it into the bedroom, maybe dressed as a lumberjack, but we don't have to go that far yet.

How would you feel about that?

I say AWESOME! Bring it on!
Because if she is comfortable to be able to talk about something she wants, then it shows real trust.
And I've always felt that role play is needed to help have fun. Why not? Get goofy and have fun with each-other.
If while it is happening, you both crack up laughing, well that's better than living in silent rage or depression because you feel so alone!
Life can be taken way too seriously with unnecessary drama...It's like we forget how to play like we did when we were young!
Hey, if my wife ask for that (or really anything) I would at least 100% be up to talking about it, and chances are, up for doing it too.
Afterall, doesn't the song say: "Cause every girl crazy bout a sharp dressed man..."

Gillian Gigs
02-01-2019, 01:06 PM
This reminds me of a quote, "what's sauce for the goose, is sauce for the gander"! If Cd'ing is good enough for you, then it should be good enough for her also. If you wear breast forms, then wearing a beard would be comparable in her case. I'm more prone to think that not shaving her bits and parts would be more to the point.

Alice B
02-01-2019, 01:13 PM
It would be extremely hard for me to fathom my wife doing this, but if I am able to dress I think we could do this as husband wife in reversed rolls.

Stephanie D
02-01-2019, 01:16 PM
Exactly! That is sort of the point, right?
The premise being that if it's OK for you to crossdress, then why not her?
Even better...do it together as role-reversal.
Why not?

cinderellaman
02-10-2019, 02:11 PM
My ex wife did this!! She surprised me the first time by dressing as a "business man" & I was her secretary. Thankfully no beards. We did role reversal a few times. I had no problem with it & we both loved it.

Teresa
02-10-2019, 07:33 PM
Eemz,
I know this has been brought up before and it's a fun thread . Maybe it's because my wife has not been very accepting that I'm thinking more why she wouldn't do it . I feel women guard their femininty more than we think , it's almost hallowed ground , my wife was very outspoken when I cooked the Xmas meal for my daughter and her family she made it clear to all that she thought I was trying to take her place .

Again taking a more serious view I have been surprised in conversations with people about family members or close friends of how many F/M TGs there are so perhaps your thread isn't totally off the map in quite a few homes . To some it has become a reality , I don't read the F/M section so I can't say if there are comments from men about their CDing female partners and how they feel about them turning the tables and wearing their clothes . I guess to some it must come as much as a shock as it does to our wives/partners .

Jaylyn
02-10-2019, 07:52 PM
I can say my have has nearly everything in clothing I have in male clothing. She has cowboy boots, work boots, a straw n felt hat, she can drive a tractor, she nor I drink beer because it makes us fat. She loves sleeping in my old T shirts and uses those for night gowns. She helps me load firewood and has helped me clear acreage for deer hunting. She is great at stretching wire and has even helped take her turn on the post hole diggers. We both like digging them with the tractor though a lot better. She has helped me tear down an old farm house. We have fished together but she detests running the trolling motor so I guess that's just too manly for her. Lol
She is still a very feminine woman and that depends on where we are going to church socials or funerals. She doesn't flaunt her masculinity but she can be a great farm hand. When she dresses up in GG mode she is a looker even in her late sixties. I don't think any thing about the way she dresses as she dresses for the occasion. I've seen her put on her cowboy boots and hat and boot scoot with the best of me.
I would draw the line on a beard though.... Lol

suzanne
02-10-2019, 08:21 PM
Cuz evry girl crazy bout a sharp dressed man.

Jean. Ann
02-10-2019, 09:39 PM
Have done the ZZ Top Thing more than
once ( less the Beard )
Down here in Texas it is no
big thing for the woman to wear the Boots and Jeans
and do pretty much what a man would do .
And several I have known thought the fact
that I was not ashamed to put on femminine
clothes really cool , justv as Jay lyn said

Jean Ann

abbiedrake
02-11-2019, 06:50 AM
Teresa, recent answers to a question of mine in the Ask a GG thread would suggest women don't actually consider their gender to be 'hallowed ground'.
I rather suspect that what you describe is our individual SOs natural defensiveness when faced with another woman in the house, even if (or perhaps directly because) that woman is her husband.
A woman in the circumstances us CDers put her in tends not to be thinking of femininity or gender as a general thing.

As for ZZ Top I love em, saw them in Liverpool a while back.

My wife loves being a woman, being feminine, but she was interested in this question, wanting to know my answer. Well, I would hope, even before I became a CD I would have the respect and acceptance to support my wife in her dress choices. Including the beard if it meant so much to her. I dare say I'd struggle to understand, but I'd try.
As for the bedroom well I'd rip the beard off sexily. Lol. My wife is still my wife under her plaid shirt and bib overalls. 😊
I'm pretty sure that's how it works in the bedroom.
Gotta say I'm a little upset at the undercurrent of homophobia. Guys, if she dressed as a man, you're saying you can't se past when it comes to the bedroom?! Aren't a number of us being rather hypocritical? We're expecting our SOs to accept being part-time in a same sex relationship, but we can't because 'ew gay'. SMH. Please tell me we're better than that...

Sallee
02-11-2019, 11:32 AM
sounds like fun.

Teresa
02-11-2019, 12:47 PM
Abbiedrake,
That was the rub , my wife was playing havoc over me being Teresa in my own home when I cooked the Xmas meal for my daughter and her family , she did invite herself telling me she didn't expect me to dress , the outcome was she wasn't invited . The Emails after said I'd humiliated her and felt I had taken her place , in my reply to her I told her I wasn't dressing to compete with her, it's not a game to me .

Stephanie Julianna
02-11-2019, 03:55 PM
Only an Irishman or Lady would come up with a question like this. I love it. My wife is two petite to pull this off but if she was a larger person I think it could be fun. I would do it in drab but would much prefer my being dressed as Steph for the total experience.

Leslie Mary S
02-11-2019, 06:03 PM
Even though I am a Widow(er) I can see the point of the test. I am not surprised with many of the answers.