Logic Behind Wearing Women's Clothes

[deebra]

Women buy and wear panties and thong underwear plus 10 more styles to choose from because they are sexy, pretty, skimpy, colorful, soft and body hugging. There jeans are soft, stretchy, embellished and also hug the body. And a lot of different style shoes to choose from. And like the soft pima cotton/spandex V neck top I am wearing now are so much nicer than male T's. Compare this to stiff baggy male jeans and thick long male undies. And some wonder why we Cross Dress??? Feeling soft and feminine can be a nice change from the macho tuff male world. I like to feel feminine. I like to wear females clothes that fit and shows off my body. I like feeling feminine.

I do understand that blue color male jobs require tuff clothing and a lot of males aren't into soft attractive clothing, just comfort and don't care to much about how it looks. Then there are MtF Crossdressers like us that do.

[abbiedrake]

Sometimes it's that simple isn't it?
I've been writing in my journal a lot recently trying to fathom why I do what I do. Today, I wrote that I shouldn't overthink it.
Introspection is fine, but sensuality tends not to need figuring out.

[Micki_Finn]

Um, skinny jeans? Andrew Christian underwear? Just because that’s what YOU wear in guy mode doesn’t mean that’s all that exists.

[Stephanie47]

Clothes are clothes until they are not "just" clothes. I am a student of history. Decades ago when communism was hard core, i.e., controlling almost everything in life, there was little choice of clothing in those countries. This was especially evident in communist China. The state deemed clothes were nothing more than some utilitarian garment needed to cloth the body. Watch the news programs emanating from China. People like to express themselves in certain ways. Is it in a person's dna to express his or her feelings through what he or she wears? Personally, I do think so. You're correct about the undergarments. When I go to the men's section to buy undergarments the choices are restrictive; black or white or sometimes grey. Are underwear manufacturers or designers trying to intentionally stifle a man's choice? I think it comes down to what sells. Go to the women's section for undergarments. Yikes! The choices are overwhelming. This past weekend I was at JCPenny's. The central cashier station was in the aisle next to the bras and panties. Does a woman really need all those choices? Is there something in the general genetic makeup of a woman that directs her choices? I think so. I think it is more than societal mores and expectations. I think it has something to do with artistic design. That's where I personally butt heads with the drab clothing. When I was still working I found myself reacting to my dna by the choices I made with clothing. Just about all the professional men wore dark pants and white shirts with a red tie. Look at the President. Same outfit everyday. Stuck in a rut? I chose to express my inner feelings. Depending on how I fell out of bed in the morning I selected a colored dress shirt. In thirty plus years I never wore a white shirt. I also expressed myself in my selection of tie. I couldn't do anything about the pants because societal norms do not allow a manufacturer to be creative.

I always read on this forum about how pretty the clothes are for a woman. Yes, the colors, the fabrics, the style. It makes my head swim trying to make a selection. Is it not possible a woman's dna is receptive to this abundance of choices. I do accept my counselor's opinion that each person, man or woman, has some dna of the opposite sex. She goes on that in some people it is stronger than others. Makes perfect sense to me. Or maybe I am just hoping she is right. I know my wife, if she knew, would think I am totally nuts to have "collected," just like my coin collection, over fifty colors of my favorite Vanity Fair panties. My guy side is satisfied with the basic white or black men's briefs. I think the choices I make as a man who needs to wear women's clothing on occasion is reacting to the dna. It is not just the clothes. It's in the manner in which any man or women needs to express himself or herself. It does back to the "why" I do what I do question, and, not the "how I feel" response.

I probably rambled on too much this early in the day.

[Tracii G]

I think the horse died long ago.
Wear whatever you like and buck the trend and not play by the rules you hate so much.
I could care less what the vanilla people think anyway so I blaze my own trail.

[Robertacd]

You are just not looking hard enough if you think all men's underwear is boxers or briefs.

Before I switched to all panties, (sometime in the 90's) I had plenty of "man panties" most of them being colorful bikini cut without a fly. I even had men's thongs from Target that were silky nylon and came in a rainbow of colors.

My mom was the first person to turn me on to "man panties". She started buying me colorful bikini underwear when I was 14, in an effort to stop me wearing her panties.

[JenniferMBlack]

Pretty much everything you describe you can find a man's version of.

[Tracii G]

This exactly ^^^^^^^.
I don't see a problem here because you are free to wear what you wish.

[Confucius]

My own analysis of the affinity for wearing women's clothes doesn't have anything to do with skimpy, sexy, colorful, body hugging clothing. After all, I have some soft, comfortable masculine clothing that has no effect upon me. Also the majority of men can wear women's clothing and not receive the same wonderful sensations we experience. If the fabrics were responsible for the magic then it wouldn't explain why crossdressing is intrinsic in all societies throughout history.

My explanation for why we crossdress is simply its how our brains are hardwired. During the first three years of childhood our brains experience synaptogenesis where we manufacture about 5-times the number of neural connections as the adult brain. (Synaptogenesis also occurs during puberty.) Then, largely through the learning process, some neural pathways are pruned away while others are reinforced. In this way we acquire an innate and immutable neurological response where feel good neurotransmitters, (dopamine, serotonin, oxytocin and others) are released with crossdressing. In this way, the feminine clothing has positive psychological associations with our early childhood, and provides us with comfort, pleasure, and a sense of belonging.

Yes, crossdressers may be experiencing a sort of synesthesia where activation of one sensory pathway leads to an automatic, involuntary experience in a second sensory pathway. Not all males can experience the sensations we know. It's hardwired in our brains. In a way the the feminine clothing are just tools we use to release the feel good neurotransmitters we need.

[RADER]

You are correct, Female clothes just do not fit in Construction, Like I did for 50 years.
I could only wear my panties on the week ends, those ones that I did not have to work.
Now I am retired, I have thrown away almost all of my male undies, and jeans.
I am in bra and panties with Fem jeans every day.
So I live a 50/50 world, and like it.
Rader

[BLUE ORCHID]

Hi Deebra :hugs:, It is very simple, It is just who I am & it I just what I do! >Orchid ..0:daydreaming:0..

[Michaelasfun]

The variety is where it’s at for me too. I’m just turned off in the men’s clothing sections any more, there’s so much more in the way of colors and styles and textures available for women, it seems. I spent most of my youth in jeans and sweatshirts no matter the season, now I think I’m going through a backlash lol

[MarinaTwelve200]

For me the "principle" is to ESCAPE FROM MYSELF and or "MANHOOD" for a while and become someone else entirely. AND, of course to become another person who is also a "Woman", women's clothes and makeup are necessary.-----As "another person", my own personal concerns simply "melt away" and being a woman not only widens the gulf between "me" and "Not me" but I am relieved of the obligations and pressures of "manhood" ALSO.----I can completely "RELAX AND UNWIND"-----and also get a "sexual charge" out of being a woman and the good feelings of "being pretty" also.----Its like a "fix" or "Drug" for me that I feel a need for every couple of weeks or so.

[Trione]

Try Ikingsky for some nice soft thongs

[deebra]

I've bought male sexy underwear like MIcki & Robertcd describe but they just Don't Do It for me, no different than boxers or tighty whities; but Women's do. Fabrics are softer, feel sexy, lace that is pretty, pink and they are women's and I'm wearing them. Men's undies are just not the same as wearing women's panties. It really feels good to pull on bootcut girl jeans that are made for a woman's body that hug and fit my body so nicely, I love how womanly it feels when I zip up the short front zipper and this area is tucked and flat and the jeans fit me in this area just like they would a female. As Confucius correctly said we are blessed with a wonderful feminine feeling when we put on feminine clothing that other males don't have. Lucky us.

On the spare tire cover on a lot of Jeeps there is a saying, "It's a Jeep thing, you just wouldn't understand". How about "It's a CD thing, you just wouldn't understand".

[kayegirl]

I cannot believe that you are still pedalling this "women's clothes are softer, and all mens clothing is drab, grey and harsh fabrics" thing. Where are you living or shopping? Wake up, open your eyes to the real world. Mens clothing can be just as comfortable, smooth, and colourful as women's clothing.

[abbiedrake]

OK, here's my take. Yes, men's clothing can be soft, colourful etc. But the comparative (keyword) choice is smaller and requires more effort. Case in point, I've flatly told my wife I can't shop for men's stuff at our local Primark. Women's, yeah? In fact bought some sandals in a wide fit only Sunday, and there's a pair of neon pink daisy dukes that will be mine tomorrow. But the men's, jeezus h. Corbett! Zero dice. I have a less common male dress sense is a factor, as is my refusal to advertise my preference in band etc, but I feel impelled to try a lot harder to find men's fashions I'm in love with.
If I want to settle, fine. Bob's yer uncle, all day, every day. But that's the problem with men too often. Settling.

Of course if we're talking why the label 'women's'. is important then that's a different question surely. For many it's the intrinsic expression of the presentation, more than the actual fashions. For some it's a paraphilia, only women's will do. And for others meh, reminds us of mother, simple comfort, whatever.
What was the question again?
Logic, yeah? Scant little of that when we can't form a quorum for why we do this thing we agree to call 'crossdressing'.

[Princess Chantal]

I cannot believe that you are still pedalling this "women's clothes are softer, and all mens clothing is drab, grey and harsh fabrics" thing. Where are you living or shopping? Wake up, open your eyes to the real world. Mens clothing can be just as comfortable, smooth, and colourful as women's clothing.
I have seen other people post with this same state of mind as deebra on here. I tend to just shrug off the koolaid they are offering and go with the certified organic orange juice instead!

[GretchenM]

I have found some men's clothes that work well for me, if they are in feminine colors. I have a few standard colored men's shirts that I use for situations where that is expected (like doing some environmental consulting work on a mining operation). And they fit my body form pretty well. Many women's blouses and shirts are way too tight in the shoulders and if they are a fit in the shoulders they are too big down below. Just the way I am built. Sad but true.

For sheer comfort as well as expression, clothes made for women cannot be beaten. The fabrics are often different and extremely soft and reshape well with body movements. Personally, I stick with solid colors in public, but the colors are a tell that it is a women's item - you just don't see those colors in men's clothes. People do notice - women smile and men usually just look without expression. I do what fits me in terms of what my identity is.

That said, I fully agree with Stephanie and Confucius as to the basis of this need. You both make excellent points and there is a lot of scientific evidence to support what you say - it is no speculation. Men and women have a lot of differences in various parts of their brains that are well established as being related to the foundations of our personal identities. And both have some of the other's configuration and therefore function. It is a question of how much of the other's and why aren't they more distinctive?

Lots of reasons for that including the interplay of genetics and the effects of small timing errors in development and growth mixed with environmental influences. And each error leaves something that is not completed exactly according to the idealized blueprint. It is not a defect; it is just normal variation because in biology developmental precision and the genetics that drives it does not use the precision seen in the chemical and physical world. In biology, "close enough" is the guiding principle and that is at the very heart of why living things are diverse and evolve.

There is a little bit of that in some places in the physical world but it is rare. In biology it is everywhere. So, it really comes down to Popeye being one of the greatest philosophers and scientists ever - "I yam whats I yam 'cause thats whats I yam." However, there is also a flexibility in that which is possible within certain boundaries established by genetics and development patterns that became locked down at some point. By the age of 16 a person's gender identity is pretty much fixed, but variations around that established pattern can occur afterwards. If you are feminine biased by all the things that happened before you were around 16 you will always be feminine biased. Still, that "close enough" principle provides flexibility so we have adaptive capabilities.

[Ressie]

There is no logic when it comes to wearing women's clothes. Not in my case anyway.

[BrendaPDX]

No logic to it. I wear what I like. But there are plenty of stores that cater to guys, a lot more than there used to be. I even have a couple pair of jeans that have a little stretch to them. Times they are a changing.

[ellbee]

Oh, I can relate to this in my own personal way...


You see, I'm a total leggings junkie. And I've got it *bad*, baby! :GD:

Like, I have no idea how many pairs I own at this point -- and I don't want to know. Yet I keep buying more. And I can't stop. :o

All I know is they take up a *lot* of space! Gotta measure that stuff by the cubic yard, or something. :heehee:


Okay, so some brave men wear leggings as stand-alone pants sometimes, sure... Particularly during some sort of fitness activity. However, they're most typically associated with GG's, at least in my neck of the woods.

But I'm not a CD'er, remember. ;)

Especially considering these days I present as a guy like 99.44% of the time, and I'm not trying to emulate a woman, after all.


Though even then: The sheer amount of leggings for women must outnumber the men's versions by *at least* 20:1... Maybe 50:1? More?? :strugglin

And I absolutely *love* the HUGE variety I have to choose from in the women's side of the aisle. I like their colors better. I like their prints better. I like their different fabrics & cuts & styles better.

But I'm not a CD'er, I swear! ;)

All very logical, you see.


Come on, even a basic pair of plain black leggings? Yup, I still choose the women's version.

Why? At the very least, I absolutely hate the way many of the men's pairs are stitched differently in order to accommodate (and even accentuate!) the male frontal thingie... Especially when compared to the GG-equivalent. Same goes for the "butt stitching," which tends to do the opposite in a women's pair. :battingeyelashes:

So, even though I'm a guy wearing women's leggings... I promise I'm still not crossdressing!

You know, considering I have very sound & valid reasons for wearing what I wear, which unequivocally nullify that term (at least in my head, which psychologically comforts me) that seems to sport such negative connotations. :p



Seriously, though: GG's really do have it going on when it comes to their leggings. Miles beyond the men's side of things, at that.

Ergo, I happily choose the women's stuff, all day, every day. :thumbsup:

[deebra]

kayegirl, a better and more accurate question is Where Have You Been Shopping, apparently jolly old England doesn't have enough women's clothing stores that you could see what you are missing. To check out what you said I went to the very back of my panty drawer, pulled out a male nylon thong and compared it to a Maidenform Tanga made from soft silky white nylon with one and a half inches of lace up the cheeks. When I put it on it feels feminine, like a woman. Another Tanga has the whole back in see through nylon. The female thongs I wear are nylon also and trimmed in white lace and are pink, black and white and "look and feel" feminine when put on correctly. The male thong is made of stretchy nylon but it's heavier to hold something women don't have, it's not feminine. Women's blouses are softer than any male shirt you can buy and hug and fit your body better. They do not make men's jeans as soft, stretchy, embellished and body enhancing as women's jeans. So if you are born with a feminine mind male undies come up short. It's really how feminine and like a woman you want to be.

[ClosetED]

While feminine women's clothes are different, I wear Jockey male bikini underwear with many colors. Many women are going around in loose yoga/sweatpants.
So I don't agree with the "I like the feel of women's clothes". It is more of our own concept that we moving outside our societal gender norms and expressing whatever we consider feminine.
For some that means body hugging clothes, for others large breasts, for some the makeup, others the lingerie/undergarments. Bridal dresses, feeling pregnant, whatever...
It is the "I like feeling feminine" that is the key, IMHO. And that is based on what Confucius noted what science has found.

It is not acting effeminate - most of us do not do that while in drab. It may occur when feeling feminine and dressed, but can occur when just feeling feminine and no chance to dress.
Hugs, Ellen

[Teresa]

Deebra,
I won't jump on the bandwagon this time but maybe take a step back and think what the actual materials you describe mean .

We know , satin , silk , soft nylon even soft leather and some plastics are lovely to touch and do feel good when worn but these materials also suggest the softness of a woman's body , part of these feelings are suggested to take us back to our young childhood and the closeness and softness of the mother . That feeling can also be slightly erotic so as we get older and our sexual side becomes aroused some of us find the whole expereince becomes a sexual turn on .

When I read so many of your threads I read this into your thoughts , I understand them but I feel you haven't moved on from them . I'm sure I recall you saying you do go out into the RW and often still in this frame of mind . I'm out full time and find those feelings have to be put on the back burner , I'm not saying they don't surface on occasions but not while I'm out in public . I may flirt with people especially the girls but I make sure it's not sexually suggestive , people tend to find that creepy .

We are all different and wear the clothes for our own reasons but there's no denying they are on the whole more pleasurable to wear , I'm not interested if I can find soft male clothes simply because I hate doing drab , I'm less and less comfortable as such .

[ReneeTD]

I've often thought that my first "out in public" would be in women's straight leg jeans, a woman's plaid flannel shirt, etc.

Done well, it would be almost indistinguishable from men's wear, except to the very alert eye, yet it would suit me better than wearing the equivalent men's wear.

For me, it's definitely about the feminine presentation. Also, I don't get a thing out of women's outerwear over men's underwear, though vice versa works for me on a daily basis.

I guess the logic for me is, I have to express something that emanates and/or radiates from within, and anything that disrupts that chain won't work. It doesn't need to be completely in the open or even obvious to spectators, it's more for me.

[April Rose]

There is physical comfort,and there is psychological comfort: I wear women's clothing because it is comforting to me to feel in touch with my femininity.

[Robertacd]

I know I am going to take some heat from the deniers but...

The only logical reason is:

Being transgender, I feel the need to wear the clothing of the gender I truly believe I am.

Everything else is just an excuse. Believe me I made all those same excuses for 40 years.

I was lying to myself most of all.

[Tracii G]

This exactly for me ^^^^^^^^^.
I made all the lame excuses too and tried to deny what was going on inside my head.
Too many try to explain why they dress in womens clothes and even make long posts about it but it looks like they are just adding more excuses in hopes they can convince themselves.
Trust me I did that for many years myself.

[Gillian Gigs]

My explanation for why we crossdress is simply its how our brains are hardwired. During the first three years of childhood our brains experience synaptogenesis where we manufacture about 5-times the number of neural connections as the adult brain. (Synaptogenesis also occurs during puberty.) Then, largely through the learning process, some neural pathways are pruned away while others are reinforced. In this way we acquire an innate and immutable neurological response where feel good neurotransmitters, (dopamine, serotonin, oxytocin and others) are released with crossdressing. In this way, the feminine clothing has positive psychological associations with our early childhood, and provides us with comfort, pleasure, and a sense of belonging.

There seems to be a life long attempt for humans to justify their actions, whatever it might be, so why would CD'ing be any different!
What Confucius says in the quote makes a lot of sense , at lease in my case. An early childhood memory was wearing panties as a punishment, and it struck. In puberty I started to dress, which lead to masturbation while dressed. I was unaware of it at the time, but I was developing and reinforcing a behaviour that has been a life long habit ever since. Guilt drove me to justify my actions, but as I see it at the end of the day, it still boils down to what the quote says. Yes, it has changed some what as I have gotten older, but the underlying message is still the same. I still flip back and forth with attempting to justify myself, that usually happens when I am feeling guilty about something. When not feeling guilty, it is now usually a slow burn until the urge for gratification is greater than the pleasure of just the clothes. That is the only logic I see in CD'ing from my prospective. Everybody will have their own prospective on this, as we are all different between our ears!

[QueenJeanette]

You are just not looking hard enough if you think all men's underwear is boxers or briefs.

Before I switched to all panties, (sometime in the 90's) I had plenty of "man panties" most of them being colorful bikini cut without a fly. I even had men's thongs from Target that were silky nylon and came in a rainbow of colors.

My mom was the first person to turn me on to "man panties". She started buying me colorful bikini underwear when I was 14, in an effort to stop me wearing her panties.

I had all that, when I worked in a machine shop changing in the locker room was a spectacle. The guy that had the locker next to me said I gave him and erection. I laughed if off and moved my stuff to a different row. I wore man panties for 28 years before switching to girls stuff. I like the selection better. First time my ex saw my underpants she ask me if I was gay.. I should have taken that to heart and dumped her. Would have saved a lot of time.

[Mickitv]

I love dressing because it makes me feel wonderful. Maybe we all should give ourselves a break and just enjoy something special that God gave us even though it may not be what the mainstream tells us.

[SabrinaEmily]

I know I am going to take some heat from the deniers but...

The only logical reason is:

Being transgender, I feel the need to wear the clothing of the gender I truly believe I am.

Everything else is just an excuse. Believe me I made all those same excuses for 40 years.

I was lying to myself most of all.

Pretty much, yeah.

All the other fantastical rationalizations about the softness of the mother, women's clothes being more diverse in color, etc., etc., don't explain why transmasculine people (who exist in the world in about the same numbers as transfeminine people, although they're almost nonexistent here) have symmetrical reactions to men's clothing, although of course they enjoy different things about it.

To be fair, there are cismen who buy from the women's section and ciswomen who buy from the men's section because they care weakly enough about social norms and strongly enough about whatever they're finding there to do so. You won't find them for long on a crossdresser forum, either. In a venue that drew a big-tent audience of gender non-conforming people, you might.

Heck, I've even met transwomen who would have happily kept wearing many kinds of men's clothing, for practical and comfort reasons, if not for the need to be passable, and transmasculine people who were a lot more comfortable with the idea of being skirt-wearing boys than skirt-wearing girls. The world is a big and strange place.

[ellbee]

BTW, for those who didn't catch on...?

The bulk of my prior post was extremely tongue-in-cheek.

Uh, at face value, I'm a dude wearing women's clothing -- of *course* I'm crossdressing! :roflmao:


Unfortunately, I do see enough of that mentality out there, however.

"Oh, but I only wear some clothing of the opposite sex sometimes because of this, or that, or whatever. But I'm not CD'ing!"

Mmm, yeah... Sure. Whatever gets you through the night? :heehee:


Not sure what the big deal is, really. It's only a freakin' word.

And one that's been officially & universally established "by the professionals" well before any of us were born, with a very simple, cut-&-dry definition.
But Heaven forbid one personally gets associated with that kind of stigma. :brolleyes:

Can you say, "triggered"? :D



However, with that said...

In regards to my strong preference for *women's* leggings, everything I mentioned certainly holds true.

If you feel otherwise, feel free to prove me wrong. :p

I could also make a similar case for women's tops, which I adore for all sorts of logical reasons.


Hint: For the most part, men's & women's clothing are, indeed, different from one another -- in all kinds of ways!

*Gasp!* I know... The shock, the horror. :heehee:

[Lindsay blonde locks]

I am going to sound naive here...
But why is there a lot of rejecting of the original post's proposal about why we wear? What if it is really as simple as more options to choose from?

I plan to wear clothes that I *like* during my life, not one specific gender's typical wardrobe, and that includes men's and women's clothes!
The colors and fabrics are mostly what draw me to any clothing I like, so there's no internal feeling of repressed femininity/trans identity that some here have suggested.

But feel free to convince me otherwise! I'm just a noob ;-;

[Jodie_Lynn]

Considering that women's clothing is designed (mostly) by men, and that they are rather impractical (how deep are those front pockets in your girl jeans? If they even have front pockets... ) and created to highlight the female form, I find it amusing that someone would use the word "logic" in describing the wearing of women's clothes.


I mean, just look at men's jeans vs women's jeans. Men's are tougher, coarser, have useful pockets and will usually last a damn sight longer than a woman's pair. A woman's jeans are made of a softer denim, and will usually showcase a feminine derriere. And there is that pocket issue again.


Shoes? Really, how practical is it to stand on stilts? Yes, we all know how they improve the look of our legs, but seriously? And bras, sure they may be soft and sexy and cute, but their sole function (with the exception of sports bras) is to 'push 'em up, push 'em out' and scream out "HEY! Get a load of THESE babies!!!"


The only logic I see in regards to the female wardrobe, is that it is designed to appeal visually to males, and to make women more vulnerable. Ever try running in 4" heels?

All that being said, I like my girl clothes and wouldn't give them up for the world!

[ellbee]

"Considering that women's clothing is designed (mostly) by men..."


I understand what the media likes to say. And I'm sure they have their reasons for doing so. ;)


However, real-life "boots on the ground" (i.e., people who actually work in the industry, which includes plenty of GG's) say otherwise -- that most are, indeed, GG's.

That's been my brief professional experience, as well... More GG's than men, with a higher-than-normal prevalence of gay males, to boot.


Eh, believe whatever you want to believe, as long as it suits one's narrative? :strugglin


BTW, don't confuse a male CEO, with someone who actually designs the stuff. The CEO is there to run the company, itself, that's it. Much different responsibilities.


P.S. GG's here have already explained the smaller pockets thing. :shush:

[Raychel]

Pretty simple logic for me, I love the feel of women's clothes, Always have
and the feeling if having breast in the outfits, well that is just a bonus.

A nice dress and all the other bonuses of women's clothes.
1000% better then any men's clothes I ever had.

The men's clothes are functional for guy stuff, But
for relaxing, I have no use at all for them.

[Jodie_Lynn]

"Considering that women's clothing is designed (mostly) by men..."


I understand what the media likes to say. And I'm sure they have their reasons for doing so. ;)


However, real-life "boots on the ground" (i.e., people who actually work in the industry, which includes plenty of GG's) say otherwise -- that most are, indeed, GG's.

That's been my brief professional experience, as well... More GG's than men, with a higher-than-normal prevalence of gay males, to boot.


Eh, believe whatever you want to believe, as long as it suits one's narrative? :strugglin


BTW, don't confuse a male CEO, with someone who actually designs the stuff. The CEO is there to run the company, itself, that it's it. Much different responsibilities.


P.S. GG's here have already explained the smaller pockets thing. :shush:


Then I stand corrected.
And I must have missed the 'short pockets' explanation. Care to enlighten me, or point to the post?

[Shely]

that's where I join in, it's the infinite variety of the clothing that keeps me going back for more. Colors, styles fabrics, designs, prints, and I could go on. And that's just the clothing, there is also the jewelry, hair styles. It's just heads ahs shoulders above the choices that men have.

[ellbee]

A quick search on the pockets thing turned up this most recently...

https://www.crossdressers.com/forums/showthread.php?247263-Ask-a-GG-Part-Two&p=4339025&viewfull=1#post4339025


That post (#189) does a pretty good job explaining the logistics of it.



I suppose one could also Google something like "why do women's pants have small pockets" -- at one's own risk.

Just be sure to have a fairly large grain of salt handy, nearby. :heehee:

[sometimes_miss]

And some wonder why we Cross Dress???
<snip>
I like to feel feminine.
<snip>
I like to wear females clothes that fit and shows off my body.
<snip>
I like feeling feminine.

There are plenty of men's clothing which is quite comfortable, as evidenced by all the WOMEN who wear it to feel comfortable. So it's not the physical comfort which is driving you to crossdress.
Something is causing you to embrace femininity and your desire to identify with being female.
Perhaps try to identify when exactly this started, and maybe you'll be able to figure out what it was that began those desires.

[rhonda]

I don't see logic in wearing in wearing women's clothing , more like fantasy and desire

[QueenJeanette]

Personally I've never felt so comfy in my life, right down to my socks, pantyhose, and bra. Speaking of pantyhose that's the warmest garment going. Today I had to go to the Harley Dealership and pick up my new Road Glide. It's was 48°F so I put on a pair of Marilyn Monroe Silky Smooth Control Top Sheet with Reinforced Toe under my jeans and I was warm and toasty all the way home.

[ellbee]

There are plenty of men's clothing which is quite comfortable, as evidenced by all the WOMEN who wear it to feel comfortable. So it's not the physical comfort which is driving you to crossdress.

Oh, I'm sure the physical-comfort factor plays at least a small role for many, if not most, CD'ers. :heehee:


Comparing men to women, in this case? Apples to oranges, really.

And things can be different, yet still equal, ya know. ;)



I won't pretend to speak for all GG's & all CD'ers on this. But from I understand...?


"Crossdressing comfort" for a GG oftentimes means warmth, thickness, coziness, oversized, etc. Stuff in that vein.

Think: A men's hoodie, or a flannel shirt, perhaps, that's "too big" on them. All that extra fabric = *cozy* comfort.


"Crossdressing comfort" for a guy, on the other hand, oftentimes means smooth, sheer, tight & stretchy, etc. Things of that nature.

Think: A pair of tights/pantyhose/stockings, or leggings, or a stretch-velvet dress. Silk, satin, nylon, spandex, etc. = *sensual* comfort.



Anyway, obviously this isn't all-encompassing, that it's true for all. Just that I've seen enough of that out there.


But the bottom line is, both are two sides of the same coin... Physical comfort.

*Why* the differences? I couldn't tell you, without at least speculating.

[Beverley Sims]

I don't want to wear my mens clothes out, they are too expensive to replace. :-)

I look better in women's clothes anyway.

[QueenJeanette]

There are plenty of men's clothing which is quite comfortable, as evidenced by all the WOMEN who wear it to feel comfortable. So it's not the physical comfort which is driving you to crossdress.
Something is causing you to embrace femininity and your desire to identify with being female.
Perhaps try to identify when exactly this started, and maybe you'll be able to figure out what it was that began those desires.

Just this year, at least where I live, the retail outlets started stocking stretch pants/jeans for guys. Those are the best pants I own. I would get them a couple of sizes small because they stretch nicely. No more stiff cardboard looking jeans for me. I don't have to get adjusting them to get on and off my bike.

[ReneeTD]

Personally I've never felt so comfy in my life, right down to my socks, pantyhose, and bra. Speaking of pantyhose that's the warmest garment going. Today I had to go to the Harley Dealership and pick up my new Road Glide. It's was 48°F so I put on a pair of Marilyn Monroe Silky Smooth Control Top Sheet with Reinforced Toe under my jeans and I was warm and toasty all the way home.

If there is logic to any sort of dressing, I've found pantyhose to be the best in this regard. I used to do a fair amount of camping in tent and sleeping bag, and nothing helps more with the cold toes in the wee hours than a pair of pantyhose. A great insulating layer with essentially zero bulk. I'm sure they would help when riding in cold weather too, although I'm somewhat less inclined to underdress when doing things I know could be inherently hazardous.

[abbiedrake]

I wore tights more than once while riding long before I started CDing. Riding to Aberdeen in winter would have resulted in cold-inflicted SRS otherwise. 🤣

[deebra]

sometimes_miss,

We have disagreed on a few things but not this time on your thread #42. So to answer. At the age of 4 I was playing with a little girl and saw her beautiful shoes. I suggested we switch, when she wanted them back I didn't want to take them off. At 6 or 7 I use to watch my aunt get dressed in her white, shiny, silky underwear. While playing at 12 the urge hit again to be like a girl so I wrapped myself in a blanket to feel like a skirt. At 18 it was first panties and then slips, bras, and more and more. Now you know. As Confucius correctly said I believe 100% that I was born with a mind that was a big part female, different than masculine males, that is why at 4 I wanted to wear her shoes.

I look at women nude, dressed in underwear, outerwear and how they present and go about. They are beautiful and have so much to work with, not only the clothes that allow them different looks but the feminine demeanor that is a woman. Done the man thing, would love to try being the most attractive feminine woman I cold be.

[Gillian Gigs]

"Crossdressing comfort" for a GG oftentimes means warmth, thickness, coziness, oversized, etc. Stuff in that vein.

Think: A men's hoodie, or a flannel shirt, perhaps, that's "too big" on them. All that extra fabric = *cozy* comfort.


"Crossdressing comfort" for a guy, on the other hand, oftentimes means smooth, sheer, tight & stretchy, etc. Things of that nature.

Think: A pair of tights/pantyhose/stockings, or leggings, or a stretch-velvet dress. Silk, satin, nylon, spandex, etc. = *sensual* comfort.


I think you summed it up pretty close on the difference of comfort between women and CD'ers!

[Lindsay blonde locks]

Thigh high stockings with shaved legs seems to be a wonderful feeling to both men and women, and has nothing to do with gender identity/ taboo nature of opposite sex clothing.

I won't argue though that it's not "logical" for men to go against a culturally enforced stereotype of men = hairy legs, women = smooth legs, because the leg shaving part is not super fun for GGs to have to do, why would guys want to take on that burden?
(of course it's fun for us CDs for the first few times bc it's expressing repressed femininity)