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docrobbysherry
09-04-2019, 02:01 PM
For over 10 years I dealt with suddenly thinking I wanted to become a female, in private, on my own. I wished to know what being a woman felt like. It all came out of the blue in my 50's! I never even thot of wearing my girlfriend's or wive's things before then!:eek:

My point is, I KNOW what wanting to become, and feel like a, female feels like!:brolleyes:

But, after coming out online here 12 years ago, I finally discovered my desire was to appear to be a pretty woman. After that discovery? My 12 years of dysphoria, confusion, inner conflict, or whatever u call it, vanished overnite! For whatever reason(s), I no longer desired to feel like, or become a female!:D

I wondered if there were other CD's here that r satisfied to appear to be female? As opposed to wanting to be, and feel, like one?:battingeyelashes:

IF U HAVE ALWAYS FELT LIKE YOU'RE A FEMALE AND DO NOW? U R NOT A CD!
And, this post is NOT addressed to u!:straightface:

Palaina Nocturnus
09-04-2019, 02:26 PM
Hello hun,

I started crossdressing before I even knew what sex was. I was already fascinated by the female body literally as far back as I can remember by the time I was trying on my moms clothes.

For years I was homophobic outwardly yet when I was alone I would wear the clothing of whomever i was dating at the time. Once i started crossdressing and came out i realized i had been oppressing my own inner urges.

At first i was content with dressing up and having sex with just females. Then i started to get flirted with by cute men. That's when i decided to try it out. Once i had actually had sex with different men I finally knew what I was.

I am a bisexual female trapped in a male body. I'd give anything to wake up a genetic female, not a post op. I love being in the arms of a man feeling safe and wanted. I want to be treated in a sweet manner and not rough and tough like most barbaric men.

When I dress I actually feel normal

Micki_Finn
09-04-2019, 02:30 PM
I think we actually have a lot in common in this regard. I always felt like I was mentally and emotionally more female than male. Although it’s impossible to verify, through observation I came to the conclusion that I thought and felt more like a woman than a man for whatever that means. So for a while I had a very strong desire to be a woman in whatever capacity I could and thought that maybe I was headed toward transition.

Then I discovered drag and made some friends in the community. I realized I could be the badass glamazon bitch I always wanted to be, and it scratched the itch in a way nothing else has, and the dysphoria has all but disappeared. I wouldn’t say that I no longer feel like a female, because I still absolutely do in many ways, but I don’t feel the need to express it 24-7.

So for me in this regard it’s kind of the opposite. I have always and still do feel like a woman, but I no longer feel the NEED to appear as one. It’s much more of a controlled decision now.

Kaylin
09-04-2019, 02:46 PM
Well, even though I didn't completely come out until earlier this year. I always was a CD. But since my teenage years I had this feminine side. Where some of my mannerisms were always girly. People used to make fun of me for it. It was normal to me. I wouldn't say I want to be a female though. I'm into it more these days cause of drag lately. But throughout the week I still CD and do makeup regularly. I wouldn't say I want to fully become female. I am happy as part time female. And comfortable as a CDer and also with my Male self. That's just me though.

CONSUELO
09-04-2019, 02:56 PM
I know that I am not and can never be female. So my goal is to be as good a facsimile of a female as I can.

jacques
09-04-2019, 02:58 PM
hello.
for me crossdressing is all about the clothes,
luv J

Robertacd
09-04-2019, 03:25 PM
It's questions like this that lead me to believe and eventually accept that I am TG not just CD

As I have always felt like a woman, dressed as one or not.

soyangela
09-04-2019, 03:50 PM
Is unsure an answer. After attempting for years to tell myself I no longer want to wear women's clothes and dealing with the guilt and so many other emotions. I've come to the realization that I DO want to wear women's clothes and DO want to look and feel as feminine as possible. I'm really scared of these feelings but I can't deal with the exhaustion of constantly trying to tell myself no don't do that its weird. I've only told you ladies here who I am. I'm scared to lose my family but at the same time I now need to know where this is going. I do want to feel like a woman. That is why I again started dressing. Do I want to be a woman, I don't know. There are times that I would say yes and other times no.

kinky_caitlin
09-04-2019, 03:59 PM
I always thought that the clothes were enough. And most of the time they are, but lately I have been getting the feeling that I am in the wrong body and that my parts don't match what I should be. I should be a girl and transition seems to be the path in my future. After transition though I do believe I would be a bisexual woman as I know I want a girl, but a man from time to time to play with would be awesome.

Teresa
09-04-2019, 04:04 PM
Sherry,
I feel it's something that evolves , I posted in the NB section a thread titled , " If Only !" meaning if only there was no going back to male mode simply because my dysphoria gives me problems when I have to revert to drab .

I know some are going to jump on you for saying you know how it feels to be a woman , I guess what we should really say is all the conditions are in place to appear like a woman but we can only feel as we always feel but look very different on the outside , for me that is as close as I can get to fulfilling that ideal . If I can live a comfortable life being accepted as that I will be very happy and it is happening now . You call this the " Vanilla " world , to me it's the life I prefer to live .

Georgina
09-04-2019, 04:07 PM
Also for me it's all about the clothes. In the past there were times I wished I were a woman but that was only to be able to wear the clothes. Feeling like a woman is an unknown but I do know the clothes make me feel great.

MarinaTwelve200
09-04-2019, 04:24 PM
I like the clothes and MAKEUP---after all, WE are Cross DRESSERS. My original "goal" was just to SEE what I would have looked like as a real Woman. (before discovering other benefits of it too) There are others here who are more "deeply" into the "woman thing"---They Cross Dress too, but they really are not the same as us Cross Dressers. We just have not DEFINED them clearly enough----NOR have we come up with a TERM to describe them, so we call them "Cross dressers" too---- which, unfortunately only adds to the confusion in our ranks and the minds of the "unwashed public" ;) .

nikkiwindsor
09-04-2019, 04:42 PM
That's a very good question...I need to carefully think about it before answering

Jean 103
09-04-2019, 05:27 PM
I would like to have been born a woman.

I don't know what feeling like a woman means.

I live in the real world.

I lived with a boyfriend for a year. During this time I was the lady of the house. There was another roommate with a five year old daughter. Can you say instant family.

During this time we had many parties where I was the hostess. As well as having friends drop by all the time.

This boyfriend died last year. It was about a year after I broke up with him.

Currently I have two boyfriends, I saw one last weekend and will see the other this weekend. I have known both of them for a few years, I do like one more then the other. If he ever asks me to marry him I will not hesitate to say yes.

I rent a room from a lady that's a bit older than me. Try renting as a TG person. Living in someone else's home, now that's acceptance.

I have been out living as a TG person for about four years now.

Tonight I'm going to karaoke with my BFF, a GG. Most all my friends are GGs.

Through all of this I am just me, I just feel what I feel.

Currently I'm stuck with the body I have. I just have to make the best of it ,as I don't really have another option.

Tammy Lynn Tx
09-04-2019, 05:46 PM
Like many I started CDing before ever knowing what sex was or about. I started out as a little sister to my much older sister, then as a standin as a part time daughter for my Mom. Then years of hating myself for being bi and to prove to myself I was a man. I was raised in a macho family and have always been in macho jobs, then almost 30 years ago ( after 2 divorces) I met my current wife ( I had her read my journal the night we met) and she accepted me unconditionally. I have learned to accept me as me. I will never pass in public, don't really want to go out and love being as feminine as I can, and enjoy the clothing for the clothing. Realistically I am a man in womens clothing and happy.

Ressie
09-04-2019, 06:08 PM
It seem the closer I get to looking like a woman, the more I feel like one and want to be one. The look comes first.

Stephanie47
09-04-2019, 07:15 PM
I have to answer as the question was asked. I am a cross dresser. I am not a woman 'trapped' in the body of a male. I do not hate my male self. I cannot explain to anyone why I desire to emulate a woman on occasion. That is different than telling someone how I feel wearing women's clothing.

Since I am not a woman by virtue of my male equipment and raised as a boy, I have no idea how a woman feels. If you think you do not feel like a male that does not automatically means you know what you're feeling is what a woman feels. Isn't part of being a male or female the nurturing a person experiences? Or the effects society's customs and norms and expectations have exerted upon you?

nvlady
09-04-2019, 08:50 PM
I was born male. I have always been male. I Think I would enjoy the experience of being a teenage girl for one day just to be able to play with the clothes and makeup, but would not want to do it for more than one day. I am happy as a male, but I enjoy occasionally looking like a female.

suzanne
09-04-2019, 10:23 PM
We all know about the "woman trapped in a man's body". I have a slight twist on that cliche. I am a woman who, for various reasons, voluntarily accepted to wear a man's body for this lifetime. In so doing, I learned a lot of life lessons that are best learned from a man's perspective. And, for the rest of my life, I will fulfil all the male responsibilities i have to my family. But I can't keep an airtight lid on my awareness that, despite all the indignities and abuses heaped on by the patriarchy, it's better to be a woman, and I miss it. So I dress, and do the best job I can as a MIAD.

docrobbysherry
09-05-2019, 12:56 AM
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I know some are going to jump on you for saying you know how it feels to be a woman , I guess what we should really say is all the conditions are in place to appear like a woman but we can only feel as we always feel but look very different on the outside , for me that is as close as I can get to fulfilling that ideal-------------------- .
I believe u misread my post, Teresa. Something I commonly do and get in trouble for it here!:doh:

What I said was, "I WANTED to know what being a woman felt like." Not that I ever have or could!

For those that think u do or have? I'm envious!:battingeyelashes:

Because in the end, whether it's self delusion or accurate isn't really important to those experiencing it, is it? U r what u believe u r!:)

Cheryl T
09-05-2019, 09:50 AM
I began on this road when I was about 5.
People always think this is about sex or a sexual urge. I know for a fact that for me it is not.
As a child I wanted desperately to be a girl. I would fall asleep at night wishing I would awaken a girl. It never happened. Since then I've tried to balance this part of me with everything else in my life and I think I've done a fair job. Still that nagging in my head remains. I don't know IF I feel like a woman because as you said I cannot ever really know that.
Yes, I am CD, but every day I queston that as well. I feel it is so much more, but how much I can't say. Only time will tell.

Teresa
09-05-2019, 01:26 PM
Sherry,
Sorry I did miss that .

I guess you could turn this round and see it from a F/M TG , what does it feel like to be a man ? Maybe we are the lucky ones being TG we possibly have a greater range of feelings .

I agree the bottom line is we are what we are , all individuals with our own feelings !

Asew
09-05-2019, 02:25 PM
It is enough for me to wear their clothes and express my femininity. I have no desire to be a woman, or even fully look like one. I accept that I have a male body, with both masculine and feminine interests and a love for feminine clothes. When I dress it is about the clothes and jewerly, I no longer augment my body for a more feminine body (such as fake boobs in the past), and no makeup (because I don't like it). So I don't see a female in the mirror, I see my body in clothes I like. And that is good enough for me :)

docrobbysherry
09-05-2019, 11:39 PM
Sherry,
Sorry I did miss that .

I guess you could turn this round and see it from a F/M TG , what does it feel like to be a man ? Maybe we are the lucky ones being TG we possibly have a greater range of feelings .

I agree the bottom line is we are what we are , all individuals with our own feelings !

It doesn't matter, Teresa. Either no one read, or cares, what my OP is about! They all have their own personal experience or take on dressing to relate!:sad:

Jin Xer
09-06-2019, 01:57 AM
Interesting subject. And too bad some didn't care to fully read your original post.

closets
09-06-2019, 04:00 AM
looking like one of course

it would be a disaster if i wanted to be a woman when i've been running around as a guy my whole life

and I'll take it a step further by saying if i was born female, i (like most gg's do) would take dressing for granted, and probably wear shorts and t shirts all the time. that would be tragic.

Princess Chantal
09-06-2019, 04:09 AM
I am satisfied to appear as a crossdresser rocking the outfit I chose to wear. Don’t care one bit about appearing as or feeling as a genetic or a transitioned woman.

alwayshave
09-06-2019, 06:35 AM
I don't know what women feel like, not being one. Therefore, I am satisfied with wearing women's clothing.

CarlaWestin
09-06-2019, 06:54 AM
I wondered if there were other CD's here that r satisfied to appear to be female? As opposed to wanting to be, and feel, like one?:battingeyelashes:

Appearing to be female is fine with me. And there is an enjoyment in 'feeling' female. That's a big part of it all. Walking in heels, the feeling of having breasts or the tactile feedback of softer clothing and jewelry.
It's a whole other fascinating experience that enhances and compliments the predominantly male self.
And it's not as though there's a magic switch for you to become 100% female. That would be interesting.
To answer your question, Yes, that would be me, too. Any desire to transition is just a temporary fantasy for me.

NancySue
09-06-2019, 08:22 AM
Since the “get-go”, dressing has been my my total concentration. I look back and have enjoyed my progression from hose to completely dressing. I remain totally cognizant that I’m a male...one who enjoys dressing. Over the years, I’ve searched for the “why’s”, but finally gave up and accepted my desires. I don’t have a clue about feminine feelings. To me, it’s all about hormones...X and Y’s. After reading the book “Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus”, I’m convinced men would never or rarely be able to naturally express true feminine feelings, but exhibit a “copycat” interpretation. I believe Bruce Jenner will always be a male, and think like one, regardless of surgical changes. JMO.

Aunt Kelly
09-06-2019, 08:55 AM
...I believe Bruce Jenner will always be a male, and think like one, regardless of surgical changes. JMO.
The overwhelming body academic thought to the contrary. Beliefs and opinions, while freely available to all, are not the same as facts, and in this case virtually all of the facts point in a direction opposite of yours, NancySue.

Ressie
09-06-2019, 10:56 AM
Here we go again...^

docrobbysherry
09-06-2019, 11:46 AM
Nancy Sue, I have personally met 100's of T's. And, I can verify that a few, not many, seemed like women to me!:thumbsup:

Not that they looked so much like women to me. But, their thot processes, mannerisms, voice inflections, temperment, etc. made me feel I was addressing a female!:battingeyelashes:

And, I've met CD's that have eventually completely transitioned. Yet seemed more like men to me!:brolleyes:

Aunt Kelly
09-06-2019, 12:06 PM
Here we go again...^Indeed... As incongruous as it seems in a community such as this one, ignorance, about the nature of gender dysphoria, abounds. Such ignorance hurts us all.

LilSissyStevie
09-06-2019, 12:23 PM
As far as I can tell, and I've looked hard, there are no feelings exclusive to women that aren't also felt by men and vise versa. "Feeling like a woman/man" is just the playing out of whatever gender stereotypes one clings to. That's fine and fun as long as you don't actually believe that crap. But CDs seem to believe in it even more than most. I don't even know what feeling like a man is supposed to be like let alone feeling like a woman. I only know what I feel like and I'm often even wrong about that.

JuliaGirl
09-06-2019, 05:17 PM
Appearing to be female is fine with me. And there is an enjoyment in 'feeling' female. That's a big part of it all. Walking in heels, the feeling of having breasts or the tactile feedback of softer clothing and jewelry.
It's a whole other fascinating experience that enhances and compliments the predominantly male self.
Carla has pretty much summed it all up for me very well. There's a pleasure in feeling female and feminine that is the main thing that makes me feel good when dressing.

Teresa
09-07-2019, 07:18 AM
Dandizette,
Exactly my point !

I recall a thread a while ago asking for replies from a male perspective , I replied I can't reply , all I can say is it's from a person with TG issues and a female trait , my reply can only be based on that . The question could be asked , what does it feel like to be a man ? I might still have male parts but which way is my brain thinking ? No one can really answer that because they don't know any different .

Leslie Mary S
09-07-2019, 07:47 AM
I have no know desire to become fully a woman.
I started dressing because I liked the feel of women clothes. Women get to wear all the pretty colors and styles.
I slowly developed the desire to go out dressed and look like a woman. I know that I will never fully, or should I say even slightly, pass as a woman. Lately, when dressed, I am starting to look like Maud of "Golden Girls". I do like her hair style and color too. Maybe I need to change my name?

April Rose
09-07-2019, 08:42 AM
The overall drift of this whole thread makes me wonder if the main difference between us and Cisgender males Or females is just the absence of conflict. In other words, the feeling of being male or female is no more defined for them than it is for us, but they just don't feel any need to question it.

Teresa
09-07-2019, 10:57 AM
April,
It's down to our level of dysphoria .

sometimes_miss
09-07-2019, 12:37 PM
I need the sensory feedback that implies that I'm female. I see girl clothes, hair, accessories, stockings, shoes, nail polish. I smell make up, perhaps shampoo/conditioner, perfume. I feel, well, all the different feelings that women's clothing imparts instead of mens. I hear my dangling earrings. Etc.. All combine to help me feel as if I am, indeed, female. Only then do I feel 'normal'.

Jenny22
09-08-2019, 03:09 PM
I dearly want to be a woman (female), but to feel like a woman (female), I would have had to have been born, raised and lived all of the experiences of a female, good and bad, as she grows up and matures.

Ressie
09-08-2019, 04:19 PM
That's true Jenny22. That's why I'd rather be reincarnated as a woman than attempt to transition.

Alice Torn
09-08-2019, 06:05 PM
I know i can never be 100% woman. However, my brain is very female in some ways and emotionally i am similar. Some GGs are quite mannish, It all depends on the individual. Mentally, i am quite a bit both lady, and gentleman. But physically, male.

- - - Updated - - -

Leslie, I was thinking of changing my lady name to Maude, too, as the wig i purged a few years ago made me look a bit like her, too.

suit
09-08-2019, 06:21 PM
307148 "feel like" well the neurosurgeon is going to laugh and laugh and laugh "feel"
you should ask women what they feel , and can they describe it .

Nicole79
09-11-2019, 10:18 AM
When I was a teenager I would dress up in my mother's lingerie and try to act like a girl. I think I just like role play. I'm attracted to women but have gay fantasies so I'm not sure what I want to be........

Lingerie Lucy
09-13-2019, 02:31 AM
Wow! So man posts in this thread mirror my feelings and experiences. For me, like others have said, this is mostly about admiring girls clothes, bling, fragrances, and wanting to wear them myself. A part of me really does want to go out as a girl and get the whole experience, both good and bad. But for now, just dressing up as a girl and learning how to act/be a girl in private is enough to scratch my itch. Who knows how I will feel in a year.

Alice Torn
09-15-2019, 12:28 AM
LilsissyStevie Well said!!

missynicole
09-15-2019, 10:12 AM
yes yes yes...exactly dear

RainbowDash
09-15-2019, 11:11 AM
Whenever I crossdress, I want to look and feel like a woman. This helps to bring out my feminine side, which I feel has been strong throughout my life, but which I have never really released until 3 years ago. The wig and breast forms are an absolute must, otherwise I don't look like a woman. Bras especially make me feel like a woman because it feels like I have breasts when wearing a bra with breast forms.
As for wanting to be an actual woman, I have never really wanted to be a woman, and have always been happy as a man. That being said, I've always wondered what it'd be like to be a real woman, but have never ever given any serious consideration to getting a sex change. I would however totally jump at the opportunity to be a woman for a day or two, just to see what its like. Even if I could magically change my life to never having been born male and instead be born female, and my entire life's story and everyone I knew reflected this, I still would not wish to give up my own male life.

Alice_2014_B
09-15-2019, 02:22 PM
I just try to appear as passable as possible.
When dressed up I walk and sit, for the most part, like a woman.
High heels and a skirt or dress make them both easy for me.
I never disguise my voice, even for stand-up.

I've never really felt like I want to be a real woman.

:)

Michelle43
09-16-2019, 10:20 PM
Of course i've thought about what it would be like be a genetic woman, but i'm content with being who I am, a crossdresser (I think?) I don't have to have surgery or anything like that, I think i'll be satisfied with being as passable as possible, and maybe experiment with a man while dressed. I guess ultimately it's about the clothes for me.

Lingerie Lucy
09-16-2019, 11:38 PM
Appearing to be female is fine with me. And there is an enjoyment in 'feeling' female. That's a big part of it all. Walking in heels, the feeling of having breasts or the tactile feedback of softer clothing and jewelry.
It's a whole other fascinating experience that enhances and compliments the predominantly male self.
And it's not as though there's a magic switch for you to become 100% female. That would be interesting.
To answer your question, Yes, that would be me, too. Any desire to transition is just a temporary fantasy for me.

This is pretty much me. Sometimes I'll have fleeting fantasies of actually being a girl plus all the privileges that go along with it. But I know if I could magically turn myself into a female I'd miss being a guy and all that means. I'm happy with just being able to pretend being a girl, even if sometimes the pretend seems very real.

Lindseynrva
09-17-2019, 08:11 AM
The softness of lingerie, bras holding firm my wonderful breast form and. the smells of women’s powders and the flow of a dress all make me feel so feminine and womanly. Who doesn’t love to feel as girly as possible! I know I’ll never be passable in the real world but I can darn well be the woman I want to be at home and I love the feelings I get.

Rollermiss
09-18-2019, 11:17 AM
Looking back I have always been feminine. Wanting shorter cut offs, wearing my long hair more girly. Then my career choices both in the military and in civilian life. It was/is a dangerous, kind of macho career. I have learned that transgender people often chose a macho career to get rid of those girly feelings.To feel like a man.

But thanks to my counselor I have learned and now know what I truly am. I am a girl. I started my transition, about 5 months ago. My wife and girls are supportive of my decision. So is my work.

Kelsey

michele4848
09-20-2019, 05:20 PM
I would give anything to be a woman. I have felt this way as long as I can remember. when I look at a woman I don't see her as a sex partner, but I look at what she is wearing, her make-up, shoes. I wish to know the feeling of jiggly boobs, how she walks, how she talks. so yes, i want to be a woman and feel like a woman. I have never liked being a male.

Judy-Somthing
09-20-2019, 05:33 PM
When I was in my teens I thought it would cool to be female but never felt like I was one.
Now I like to see how womanly I can look.

kelliboots
09-26-2019, 12:39 PM
I am a long time crossdresser who loves to feel as feminine as possible at all times. I do love walking in high heels and making the most female appearance I can. At times however I can throw on female jeans, boots and a sweater and just hang out. I could dress like this always...comfortable and relaxed when I dress.

Veronica4me
09-26-2019, 02:39 PM
docrobbysherry, I am the same way (I think). Dressing as a woman makes me feel pretty and feminine, but not LIKE a woman (I wouldn't know what that is - as Jamie pointed out). I would not want to be a woman, as there would be no transformation of my appearance when I dress. My legs look so much better with a skirt and high heels than in shorts and sneakers.

ronniegirl
09-26-2019, 03:47 PM
I'm still trying to figure out whether my crossdressing is a result of a desire to be a woman or is it just a fetish of a heterosexual male who enjoys wearing female clothing..Sometimes it just feels right to dress en femme without any sexual overtones and become a woman and other times its exciting and elicits a sexual response...I do know I have both male and female tendencies and I guess whichever one dominates at the moment is how I would feel. What we forget sometimes for those who definitely wish to be a woman is all the physical issues they have. We have a tendency to only look at the positive and not the negative issues of what we wish for. So for me I think I am lucky that I can indulge in the fantasy or becoming a woman without the negative things that come with being a GG woman.

Paulie Birmingham
09-30-2019, 01:47 PM
I a heterosexual man who loves the look and feel of womens clothes. I have a tough masculine job where I always need to be in charge. I want my wife to dominate me, but it's not in her personality. She did role play a dominant person once and ordered me around, and I loved it. To me wearing pretty and feminine things is also a way to release control. But even if she never dominated me again, I just love the feel of womens clothes, especially panties, hose lingerie and stuff like that.

Jamieh2
09-30-2019, 02:50 PM
I'm a heterosexual male and I feel more alive in women's clothing. My work is very open to it and my coworkers are supportive. The thrill is no longer sexual. I just feel more alive.

Victoria_Winters
09-30-2019, 03:14 PM
I?m heterosexual myself. I love women, what more can I say... there was at one point I think there was something sexual about it but that?s long gone. I just enjoy being someone not me. I think being this pretty woman named Vicki who has style is more fun. Plus I love the feel and look of the clothes. So many more styles and combinations beyond what my grab clothes offer.

There are times I wish I was a woman but then again I?m glad I?m not at other times. I don?t want a mensuration cycle. That is not fun not at all...

Rollermiss: I too am in a very macho type job and sadly my work environment doesn?t really support cross dressing or trans at all. And with how my work environment and leadership is changing along with certain laws.... I don?t see a real acceptance where I before I retire. Btw, you were military? What branch? What MOS/AFSC? If you don?t mind me asking.

Palaina Nocturnus
10-01-2019, 03:53 PM
I'd prefer to be a genetic female.

Ginni
10-01-2019, 04:24 PM
When I am dressed it isn't feeling like a woman but being a woman. Dressing is compulsive, a need ,and desire. When dressed I feel it is like it should be.