View Full Version : Once the public lock downs are lifted.... (for those that go out)
Princess Chantal
04-08-2020, 06:07 PM
Even though I am considering wearing a face mask in guy mode while going about doing everyday things like grocery shopping and working, I don?t see myself wearing one when I am finally able to go out and about enjoying activities that I love doing while crossdressed.
Once the lockdowns are lifted, would you consider wearing a face mask as an accessory when out and about crossdressed for at least the next while? I have the opinion that people wearing face masks would be a common sight for awhile.
Btw this social distancing and lockdowns sure do SUCK and has affected my crossdressing drastically as the majority of my crossdressing is for socializing purposes and enjoying public places!
Stephanie47
04-08-2020, 06:32 PM
Your first sentence suggests to me you're not wearing any type of face mask. I would strongly encourage it. It has been shown the virus can linger for a relatively long time in the air. You don't know who may have walked in front of you for a very brief time. The same with wearing gloves. I have seen many women wearing face masks. Not many fashionable ones. We are wearing surgical masks and do have several N95 masks. My wife is sewing up fashionable masks with her stash of fabric; cat faces for our granddaughter; Star Wars for our son, and so on. Even wrapping a scarf around the face has been recommended. My wife has a huge stash of those left over from making dozen to give away to friends and family.
As to face masks and going out en femme I have said a couple of times the masks do give some added cover if one is taking a stroll. When I have the opportunity I do take evening strolls. Not in this corona period as my wife is at home. But, when out I usually stroll in a neighborhood. To blend in and counteract the query as to why a woman is out alone in the evening I always carry a tote with the name of the local grocery store. It appears I am coming home from a grocery trip. Since one of the essential activities now is grocery shopping with the encouragement of a mask, I would fit right into the cityscape. The mask will also add some concealment for those who suffer from beard shine. The malls may not be open, the downside, but, the upside is still a leisurely stroll with less people out and about.
If I was single or my wife out of town I'd be out there, but, taking proper precautions.
Tracii G
04-08-2020, 06:37 PM
How can a virus exist in the air? Don't they have to live in a host?
You don't catch flu from the air you catch it from contact.
I don't have the luxury of wearing a mask and or gloves because all the hoarders bought them.
No stores anywhere close to me have them or can get them right now.
Laura28
04-08-2020, 06:58 PM
I am not wearing one now, they are no where to be found. No I would not wear a mask after this is over.
Suzi Q
04-08-2020, 07:18 PM
Chantal,
I delivered for Meals On Wheels (meals sometimes with special diets prepared by a hospital kitchen for patients after they leave the hospital) today and they gave each volunteer a bottle of hand sanitizer and offered a free cloth mask that was made by a volunteer. I selected a mask with a feminine pattern.
I had a full beard and mustache for about forty years and I used a medical accordion type mask to cover my face when I went for walks in the neighborhood including a local park that has a 1 1/2 mile walking trail. I would wear a skirt, cardigan, breast forms, etc.. Sometimes in heels, sometimes in walking shoes. I didn't notice any unusual reactions then ( 10+ ) years ago when I encountered people on neighborhood streets or in the park, so I wouldn't expect any reactions now when MOST people will be wearing them.
Suzi Q
docrobbysherry
04-08-2020, 07:54 PM
Good question, Chantal? Since we have 2 postponed T events in Vegas later this year, I'm hoping casinos will drop their "no masks" rules!:thumbsup:
Here I am wearing my mask in a LV hotel photo just before they threw me out last year!:doh:
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Princess Chantal
04-08-2020, 07:55 PM
Stephanie, no I am not currently wearing a mask and if I were to have a supply of surgical masks or N95 masks they would definitely be donated as there is a shortage for our front lines and those vulnerable. The masks I am considering are the homemade type in which are worn to protect me from possibly touching my own face and protect others if I am either unknowingly carrying or just sneeze. I am confident with my hygienic routines of washing & sanitizing of my hands and physical distancing.
When I am crossdressed, I tend to be more aware of not touching my face to the fact that I would mess my make up.
For the rest of the thread, could we PLEASE pay more attention on the question posed! (Once the lockdowns are lifted, would you consider wearing a face mask as an accessory when out and about crossdressed for at least the next while?)
ReineD
04-08-2020, 08:08 PM
How can a virus exist in the air? Don't they have to live in a host?
You don't catch flu from the air you catch it from contact.
OK, here's an explanation.
https://www.businessinsider.com/how-coronavirus-travel-through-air-droplets-aerosols-2020-3
If you read it through you'll see there is still a debate in the scientific community as to how long the live coronavirus particles (or any other virus) do live in the air after they are coughed up or sneezed up by an infected person, and how far they travel. Heavier particles will not be expelled a great distance, they will not stay in the air as long because of gravity, and they will fall to the floor or on objects. Lighter particles are more airborne, they can travel farther and can stay in the air longer. They found coronavirus particles in an air vent in a hospital; it got there through the air!
So if you're hanging out with someone who has the flu, to use your example, and they cough and sneeze, you're at risk of having some of their expelled virus enter through your nose cavity and getting you sick too! You wouldn't even have to hug or kiss them. Once you breathe it in, the virus enters your cells and multiplies itself. It takes some days for the virus to have multiplied enough in your body to make you sick, and this is what they call the incubation period. You would not get sick if you've had the virus before and if your body had developed an immune response to it.
It will be awhile before there is a consensus on how heavy are the particles of the new coronavirus and under which conditions they become airborne. All of the research on this coronavirus is new. So in the meantime, they suggest we keep at least 6' away from others. A few days ago they further suggested we start wearing masks.
Trouble is, there is not one mask to be had in my area, and we've not even been hard-hit! There's a huge shortage!
So people, do wear a mask to protect yourself and others if you can find one, but please, please, please don't just wear them as a crossdressing accessory! If they're hard to find in your area and you come across some, AND you don't feel you need it for your own health, you might consider donating it to someone weaker than you are, who is at risk of developing a severe form of COVID-19 should they get sick - like an elderly person or a person who has underlying health issues.
If you do need to go to a pharmacy or grocery store where there are more people near you such as in the cash register line and you can't find masks, There are decent online instructions for making your own mask even if you don't sew. They're not hospital grade but they will keep you from breathing some some of the airborne virus if you happen to be near someone coughing who is infected.
How to make your own masks, sew and no-sew:
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prevent-getting-sick/diy-cloth-face-coverings.html
You can also search youtube videos.
And last, it stands to reason that if you make your own masks then by all means you can use them as a crossdressing aid if you want to. Why not. You might even want to order some pretty pink cotton fabric and make it out of that! :)
Sometimes Steffi
04-08-2020, 08:10 PM
How can a virus exist in the air? Don't they have to live in a host?
You don't catch flu from the air you catch it from contact.
Not quite. The virus are dormant until they find some living tissue and permeate the cell membrane. When you cough or sneeze, the virus is carried in very small water droplets that float in the air. As they're floating, you can breather them in. That is the reason for the mask
Or water droplets can land or a surface that you touch (say with your hands), that you accidently transfer to your nose, your mouth or your eyes.
There are plenty of other ways to catch Coronavirus and these are just two of them.
Princess Chantal
04-08-2020, 08:16 PM
Could we please educate about wearing a mask in a separate thread please and focus on the question posed.
Once the lockdowns are lifted, would you consider wearing a face mask as an accessory when out and about crossdressed for at least the next while?
Rogina B
04-08-2020, 09:16 PM
OK, here's an explanation.
https://www.businessinsider.com/how-coronavirus-travel-through-air-droplets-aerosols-2020-3
If you read it through you'll see there is still a debate in the scientific community as to how long the live coronavirus particles (or any other virus) do live in the air after they are coughed up or sneezed up by an infected person, and how far they travel. Heavier particles will not be expelled a great distance, they will not stay in the air as long because of gravity, and they will fall to the floor or on objects. Lighter particles are more airborne, they can travel farther and can stay in the air longer. They found coronavirus particles in an air vent in a hospital; it got there through the air!
So if you're hanging out with someone who has the flu, to use your example, and they cough and sneeze, you're at risk of having some of their expelled virus enter through your nose cavity and getting you sick too! You wouldn't even have to hug or kiss them. Once you breathe it in, the virus enters your cells and multiplies itself. It takes some days for the virus to have multiplied enough in your body to make you sick, and this is what they call the incubation period. You would not get sick if you've had the virus before and if your body had developed an immune response to it.
It will be awhile before there is a consensus on how heavy are the particles of the new coronavirus and under which conditions they become airborne. All of the research on this coronavirus is new. So in the meantime, they suggest we keep at least 6' away from others. A few days ago they further suggested we start wearing masks.
Trouble is, there is not one mask to be had in my area, and we've not even been hard-hit! There's a huge shortage!
So people, do wear a mask to protect yourself and others if you can find one, but please, please, please don't just wear them as a crossdressing accessory! If they're hard to find in your area and you come across some, AND you don't feel you need it for your own health, you might consider donating it to someone weaker than you are, who is at risk of developing a severe form of COVID-19 should they get sick - like an elderly person or a person who has underlying health issues.
If you do need to go to a pharmacy or grocery store where there are more people near you such as in the cash register line and you can't find masks, There are decent online instructions for making your own mask even if you don't sew. They're not hospital grade but they will keep you from breathing some some of the airborne virus if you happen to be near someone coughing who is infected.
How to make your own masks, sew and no-sew:
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prevent-getting-sick/diy-cloth-face-coverings.html
You can also search youtube videos.
And last, it stands to reason that if you make your own masks then by all means you can use them as a crossdressing aid if you want to. Why not. You might even want to order some pretty pink cotton fabric and make it out of that! :)
Thank you ! I wear mine everywhere I interact with others and they have theirs on as well here in Massachusetts.I can tell you that the edge of the mask does rough up the foundation and blush a bit but it is a small price to pay ! Stay well..
GaleWarning
04-08-2020, 09:32 PM
Short answer: No.
Patience
04-08-2020, 09:42 PM
Once the lockdowns are lifted, would you consider wearing a face mask as an accessory when out and about crossdressed for at least the next while? Yes, but the mask would be worn regardless of whichever gender I happened to be presenting at any given time.
If I wore a mask en femme, though, I would not wear any lipstick. With the shortage going on, a girl has to make sacrifices.
char GG
04-08-2020, 09:54 PM
This thread has gone off topic. Please read the note in the "Sticky" section marked "READ".
Please only answer the OP's question.
Once the lockdowns are lifted, would you consider wearing a face mask as an accessory when out and about crossdressed for at least the next while?
EDIT:
Any post after this one, that talks only about the virus, will be deleted.
Jackiefl
04-09-2020, 09:32 AM
Yes my wife and I will wear a mask after the lock down is lifted no matter how I'm presenting.
Stephanie47
04-09-2020, 09:46 AM
To elaborate and specifically answer the question since I did not at #2, above, until this particular virus is guaranteed to be done and gone, yes, in either male or female mode I will wear a mask. However, in male mode it will be either one of my surgical masks or an N95 mask. In female mode I will either wear one of the pretty masks my wife is making, which does have a built in barrier. Or I will wear one of the numerous pretty infinity scarfs across my nose and mouth. She has about twenty infinity scarfs hanging the hall closet. We do have a sizeable Korean population in my area, so it is not uncommon to see older Korean women wearing a mask. From what I have read many Asians have adopted wearing masks from the time period of SARS, Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome. I am sure my wife will be wearing a mask in the future as she is a two year plus cancer survivor.
bridget thronton
04-09-2020, 09:56 AM
I need to find a mask that does not fog my glasses when I breathe - I am looking for a mask that is not ugly looking if I find one it might become a fashion accessory
Teresa
04-09-2020, 10:29 AM
Chantal,
I'm sure like most the lockdowns (do " suck !" in your words ) are a big inconvience but I'm just hoping I will still be fit and healthy after it all comes to an end .
As for your question I only go out for my food shopping and walk my dog , I do stick to the rules so don't wear a mask , I don't see it as a cosmetic item or accessory so really can't see the point in wearing one after it's all over . It will be great to get back to openly meeting people and socialising with them again , the bottom line is I'm missing people .
DianeT
04-09-2020, 10:29 AM
Once the lockdowns are lifted, would you consider wearing a face mask as an accessory when out and about crossdressed for at least the next while?
Princess Chantal I don't go out so can't answer the question, but the question itself puzzled me. You said "as an accessory". Does this mean wearing one as you would a bag or jewelry? For fashion, or blending in, rather than protection?
Phoebe Reece
04-09-2020, 10:48 AM
Chantal, yes I would wear one as long as it was recommended. My wife has made some for our family to use. She even asked me if I wanted one made especially for Phoebe. The ones she made were sufficiently unisex so I declined the offer. I haven't been dressed as Phoebe in a full month. I can dress at home whenever I choose to, but I really don't like to be "all dressed up with no place to go".
Dutchess
04-09-2020, 11:47 AM
Yes even though I am a cis .
I am immuno compromised also so absolutely .
I get mine on Etsy and I have several that are in my beloved Seattle Seahawks material. some really fine thick brocade ones in several colors and one that is black with pink cats on it . All have a filter pocket in them where I get a hepa filter online and cut it up to fit in that pocket . They are all several layers thick .
Gg here
I have a pretty pink one that I wear and two more on the way.
In some places it’s mandatory for you to wear one and this prob will be going on for sometime.
I think it is perfect and a lost opportunity to wear some fem like the rest of us are wearing.
Look online many are making them either free or very low priced.
Makes my eyes pop just saying :(
Be safe
Helen_Highwater
04-09-2020, 12:23 PM
Before the outbreak there was seasonal flu and colds, all part of living as far as I'm concerned. I was fit and healthy before the outbreak and I hope to be just the same afterwards. So no, I won't be wearing a mask once this has all calmed down and things return to normal. That said I wouldn't like to put a date on things being back to normal. I have a Helen holiday booked for mid November and I'm hoping I'll be able to take it as planned. If restrictions are still in place then I may cancel and re-book once Helen is free to go about her business sans mask. Heck, what's the point of spending time getting makeup just so and then to hide it behind a piece of cotton.
Fran Moore
04-09-2020, 12:29 PM
I will be wearing one as long as it is recommended, this virus is a nasty one and a known killer. There will be plenty of time to be "unmasked" in the future when it is safe to do so, but patience is required to get to that point. I would rather deal with the discomfort of a mask then deal with the effects of the virus and the potential of dying that would end my Cd'ing life for good!
As members have posted, even if you don't have a mask you can make one out of a couple of household items that most folks already have, and that, added to social distancing, hand washing and not touching your face will all help to protect you. I choose to be safe, not sorry.....
char GG
04-09-2020, 02:49 PM
Once again,
Please only answer the OP's question.
Once the lockdowns are lifted, would you consider wearing a face mask as an accessory when out and about crossdressed for at least the next while?
The question did not involve how you are currently responding to the virus. Since this is the MtF section, please respond accordingly.
If you have to talk about the virus and what you are doing about it currently, please use the Lounge section.
EDIT: Any post after my previous post #14, that only talks about the virus, and doesn't respond to the OP's question will be deleted.
Princess Chantal
04-09-2020, 02:52 PM
Thanks Diane for the question!
I was hoping someone/folks would pick up on that especially with the sentence immediately following the question. Mind you the usage of a mask could encompass for protection and fashion combined!
Thank you Char for the action on those taking it off topic
Patience
04-09-2020, 03:29 PM
So the question really is if we would attempt to make a fasion statement with our masks?
Speaking for myself, no. More practical to keeping it unisex.
kayegirl
04-10-2020, 02:04 AM
Chanel, if the wearing of masks becomes more regular, then YES, I would wear one as a fashion item. I already have a number of Buffs, a close fitting and multi purpose scarf that I wear with my cycling gear. Available in many different patterns and colours, and can easily cover any other face mask.
Tracy Irving
04-10-2020, 08:12 AM
Yes I would, but only if I run out of lipstick.
Pumped
04-10-2020, 11:56 AM
I am out working every day, I work for an essential business. I don't wear a mask now, can't find them. So I guess I won't be wearing a mask after any bans are lifted either.
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