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Molly Wells
08-24-2020, 06:38 PM
A couple of times a year my wife and her sisters, nieces will have a "sister's weekend" and go somewhere for a few days.
This year as it turned out (family travel, etc) they rented a beach house that is only about a 20 minute drive from where we live.
When she is gone, I of course have time to be Molly, hang out around the house or maybe go out. So, Saturday night my wife, daughter and granddaughter all go to the beach house for a few days. Not expecting anyone back till early Monday when my daughter and granddaughter have to be back for work and school.
So, Saturday late evening I dressed and drove to a nearby town for a few grocery items. Got back home and began watching Netflix till the wee hours of the morning.
Come Sunday morning I'm up, still enfemme, wearing a casual dress, my femme glasses, sitting on the couch watching tv, drinking coffee, when I hear the front door opening and see my daughter step in. I had a blanket over my feet and grabbed the blanket and pulled it over myself. I had not removed my make up or lipstick from the night before and had my long hair pulled back with barrettes.
She froze and with the blanket pulled up over my clothes I said, "I'm not dressed!" She lowered her head and looked down, said she just needed to grab a couple of things from the bathroom and with her head down headed that way. When she got out of sight I jumped up with my blanket and dashed to the bedroom, closing the door behind me.
In just a couple of moments she called out that she was gone and left. Unfortunately there was still makeup and and a change of clothes out in the bathroom because I had let my guard down, not expecting anyone to come home.
Well, you can't unring a bell.... I am not sure if she realized I was dressed or not it happened so fast, but with things out in the bathroom, me wearing makeup, she had to notice something.
This morning she came home before going to work, bringing my granddaughter so I could watch her today (she is in virtual classes). We talked and visited like nothing was wrong with no comments or questions. I spoke to my wife on the phone today and everything seemed normal.
I think I might have dodged a bullet.

Molly

Val_Blackbird
08-24-2020, 06:53 PM
:eek: :eek: :eek:

Teri Ray
08-24-2020, 07:12 PM
Whew, Lets hope for the best.

Cassiek
08-24-2020, 07:14 PM
I?ll say a prayer for you Molly. My now ex wife found out about my dressing and it did not work out that well. She claimed my whole life with her was a lie and vows to destroy my life. My prayer for you will be that your wife and family are strong and see you for the person you are. If that is a loving father and husband then they should see through this situation and return the same love for you that you give to them.

AngelaYVR
08-24-2020, 07:14 PM
I spoke to my wife on the phone today and everything seemed normal.
I think I might have dodged a bullet.

So many women in your life and you still have not learned that lesson! No, it will not be normal. She is in shock. Talk to your wife.

Crissy 107
08-24-2020, 09:17 PM
Molly, Ouch! I have a pit in my stomach for you, my guess is your daughter saw your makeup and the cat is out of the bag so to speak. Women do not miss much so I definitely think you need to talk with your wife and go at this head on.
Good luck and please let us know how you do.

MonicaPVD
08-24-2020, 09:25 PM
They. Were. Twenty. Minutes. Away.

Jodie_Lynn
08-24-2020, 09:26 PM
I spoke to my wife on the phone today and everything seemed normal.
I think I might have dodged a bullet.

Doubt it, highly. Unless you believe that your daughter is a total idjit....

Pumped
08-24-2020, 09:42 PM
Pretty sure your daughter knows, whether she tells anyone, or not, is the question.

Sometimes Steffi
08-24-2020, 11:45 PM
To keep with the analogy of dodging a bullet, you've actually been hit and are bleeding out right now. You just don't know it yet.

If your daughter came home and saw women's clothes in the bathroom, what do you expect that she will think? Especially because daddy is naked.

"Daddy has a girlfriend, and it's not mom! What do I do with this discovery? Tell Mom, or keep the secret?"

Kimberly A.
08-25-2020, 12:14 AM
Doubt it, highly. Unless you believe that your daughter is a total idjit....[/QUOTE]

LMAO @ Idjit! Yeah, I couldn't help but notice that..... Supernatural fan, Jodie? Just curious. LOL

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Well Molly, it kinda seems to me like you have nothing to worry about..... With your quick thinking, pulling the blanket over you and dashing to the bedroom, sounds like you did dodge a bullet and your family is still unaware your dressing. LOL Perhaps your daughter thought nothing of the makeup in the bathroom? Like, maybe she thought your wife just forgot to put it up?

TillyCambiare
08-25-2020, 01:03 AM
I think I agree with Steffi. It's likely she noticed. There are three possibilities. 1) she thinks its your wife's. 2) she thinks its yours, 3) she thinks its another woman's. I think things get more likely left to right.

You may think you have dodged the bullet but the ricochet might catch you in the back.

Tilly

Kay J
08-25-2020, 05:19 AM
Ya i think what happen here is something that will happen to all sooner then later. Now is a good time to have the talk to the wife! It will go alot better if you tell her then her walking in on you someday!

Krisi
08-25-2020, 06:53 AM
It's my belief that you can not expect to hide your dressing from anyone living in the same house (or in this case, someone who has a key to your house) forever. It's not a matter of "if", it's a matter of "when". You got caught.

Your daughter may keep this quiet or she may not. Often, mothers and daughters are very close and it would be hard for your daughter to keep this secret.

Best of luck to you.

Connie D50
08-25-2020, 07:04 AM
Ok my two cents, I would first talk to your daughter again, that should tell you if she knows (I wish I had a idea on how to skirt :) around the topic I don't) If you sense anything talked to wife. I was going to say talked to daughter but if your wife finds out you talk to her first it wouldn't go good.

I think if you the bullet missed you should still talk to wife.

Paulie Birmingham
08-25-2020, 07:06 AM
Might want to have a talk before they go down the path of you having an affair.

Teresa
08-25-2020, 07:19 AM
Molly,
It happens !!

OK I didn't get caught dressed some years ago by my daughter but I forgot she was at home and I started to iron some of my things I'd recently washed . She saw a dress on the ironing board and realised it didn't belong to my wife , so I came clean and told her the whole story , she gave me a big hug and told me it wasn't a problem . Since then I've been out several times with her both shopping and a show , I've spent Xmas day with her and taken the granddaughter out to pantomimes and horse riding .

Maybe it's time to have that chat and clear the air with her , you never know the outcome might be OK .

I will also admit my wife wasn't happy about my daughters' acceptance but she told her it was none of her business .

GretchenM
08-25-2020, 07:34 AM
I feel that it is best to bring it out. It is possible your daughter quickly figured it out. Whether she told mom or not is an unknown, but you should assume that she did spill the beans. Watch your wife closely, very closely, and see if there is a tension there that was not there before - a bit of staying at arm's length. If there are any hints then it is likely she knows as much as your daughter knows.

Don't let them assume it is an affair or something like that. Time to come out, whether she knows or not. Some women tend to ruminate on undesirable things a lot and consider all the possibilities. Others are very direct. We all do that to some extent. She could also assume you are gay.

The loving thing to do is to point her in the right direction so the whole thing doesn't devolve into a ball of tangled string. Take a deep breath and gently inform her of your NEEDS. If it is not just a hobby so to speak then present it as it really is. Don't assume she will accept it, but she may because she already knows. As Crissy said, generally wives don't miss much, but sometimes they have no prior knowledge of this. Mine went 43 years with no idea even though there were enough mistakes along the way that she should have figured it out. But often we humans like to ignore that which we really don't want to see. Don't assume anything and just bring it out in a gentle but proactive way. Most women get that and respond honestly.

River GG
08-25-2020, 07:40 AM
1) she thinks its your wife's. 2) she thinks its yours, 3) she thinks its another woman's. I think things get more likely left to right.

Can I just say from experience... after finding a bit of obviously women's clothing... my very first thought was hoping(?) maybe it belonged to someone else. But that would an awfully big woman. And the size matched him. And... well... we had to talk.

Meghan4now
08-25-2020, 07:55 AM
We roll the dice and take our chances. Looks like you rolled a 7.

kimdl93
08-25-2020, 08:05 AM
Well, you have a choice to make. You can either let it slide (and hope for the best) or talk to your daughter and find out what she thinks. And then of course, you can talk to your wife.

As some others have speculated, there is a fair chance your wife knows more than you think about your alone-time activities.

_jenni_
08-25-2020, 08:54 AM
If you havent been caught are you really even CD'ing? It's an indulgence sometimes the bounary is pushed and you endup doing things you once thought only a quick change artist could do. Never the less in this case you were caught how it is handled is up to you and your daughter...bonds between mother and daughter as well as father and daughter are real and go both ways. She may run and tell mom or she may believe that mom knows already and not want to know what mom and dad do at home now that she is grown. Either way you are on notice.

michelleddg
08-25-2020, 09:35 AM
I would revisit your base assumption that your wife hasn't known for decades. Hugs, Michelle

MaryAnn1963
08-25-2020, 09:43 AM
I almost got caught myself last week. I've decided to prepare for "the talk" and new life changes... good or bad. I can see how the outcome could be worse if we were to be caught, but if she is not understanding, then it could go bad after the talk also... time will tell. Good luck.

Dannigirl
08-25-2020, 09:52 AM
I bet that got your heart beating pretty quick ! As somebody else mentioned, they were only 20 minutes away, probably not the best decision you could make with them being that close, but I am sure quite a few of us have done something like that (I know I used to when I lived with my parents and sisters) in some shape or form thinking we would be o.k. Let us know how it all turns out, best of luck, keeping my fingers crossed for you.

Stephanie47
08-25-2020, 10:03 AM
In previous posts you have indicated you're in a DADT marriage with a disapproving wife. If she does know of your cross dressing you may want to let your wife know what happened. It would prepare her if your daughter did see you and will talk to her mother. You may get some fallout, but less than if your wife find outs without any warning from you. Twenty minutes away is hardly any distance to retrieve something that had been forgotten. And, you can be fairly sure your wife knows that your using these absences to indulge Molly. As a matter of security we always have the outer storm door locked so anybody calling cannot just walk in with an extra key which both of our kids have for emergencies. Forces someone to rap on the door or use the bell.

Dana3
08-25-2020, 11:30 AM
It's been my experience, excluding crossdressing that on any occasion I, myself believe I'm fooling someone? The only person I'm fooling is myself.

Another thing I've learned is that when it comes to GG? 99.99%? When they ask you something? They ALREADY KNOW the answer, and they're only testing you to see how it is they respond and answer.

The old Russian proverb of ,...........

"I rather be slapped with the truth, than kissed with a lie!" In my personal opinion very much applies when dealing with people in general, but specifically when it comes to dealing with GG's?

GG's are VERY intuitive, and tend to be more in tune with their emotions, feelings than GM's.

Were it me? I would let it ride, let it slide up until to the point where the wife and / or daughter brings it up.

At that point? UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES lie or be deceptive about it! Own it! Admitt to it, and don't be ashamed of it.

Don't attempt to explain it away, make apologies for it.

Just own up to it. Most importantly?

To thy own self true!

Jacke
08-25-2020, 12:37 PM
Quote from Gretchen - Don't let them assume it is an affair or something like that. Time to come out, whether she knows or not. Some women tend to ruminate on undesirable things a lot and consider all the possibilities. Others are very direct. We all do that to some extent. She could also assume you are gay.

This reminded me of something I saw a few years ago. You are right the imagination can run wild when only given limited information.

His and her diary from the same day...

Her Diary:

Tonight, I thought my husband was acting weird. We had made plans to meet at a nice restaurant for dinner. I was shopping with my friends all day long, so I thought he was upset at the fact that I was a bit late, but he made no comment on it. Conversation wasn't flowing, so I suggested that we go somewhere quiet so we could talk. He agreed, but he didn't say much. I asked him what was wrong; He said, 'Nothing.' I asked him if it was my fault that he was upset. He said he wasn't upset, that it had nothing to do with me, and not to worry about it. On the way home, I told him that I loved him. He smiled slightly, and kept driving. I can't explain his behavior I don't know why he didn't say, 'I love you, too.' When we got home, I felt as if I had lost him completely, as if he wanted nothing to do with me anymore. He just sat there quietly, and watched TV. He continued to seem distant and absent. Finally, with silence all around us, I decided to go to bed. About 15 minutes later, he came to bed. But I still felt that he was distracted, and his thoughts were somewhere else. He fell asleep - I cried. I don't know what to do. I'm almost sure that his thoughts are with someone else. My life is a disaster.

His Diary:

Motorcycle won?t start?can't figure out why.

NancySue
08-25-2020, 12:53 PM
Remember...the calm before the storm. Don?t assume her silence is acceptance...never. I totally believe and respect women?s intuition and ESP. I?d bet she knew something was up. I believe the happened for a reason. The cats out. How?s the time and opportunity to lay your cards on the table...ASAP! Continued secrecy will not work...in fact, it might cause an irreparable relationship...as you?ve read in other replies. I wish you the best.

Sometimes Steffi
08-25-2020, 04:38 PM
With everyone saying that she probably knew already. Maybe your wife sent your daughter home "to see if dad was "OK".

What is so important that your daughter would come home for that she couldn't pick up in the local drug store?

Suzie Petersen
08-25-2020, 08:03 PM
Jacke: His Diary:
Motorcycle won?t start?can't figure out why.

That was awesome! That schenario is soooo typical. Of course, it can be written, and true, from the view of either person in the relationship, but it happens all the time.
We humans are so stupid! We create so many messes for ourselves.

Teresa
08-26-2020, 06:18 AM
Suzie,
Don't be so cynical isn't what humans do best ? Ask the simple question why do I want to wear a dress ? Simple answer because it's going to create a mess !!

Kelly DeWinter
08-26-2020, 08:51 AM
I have to agree with others, Most young women do not miss things like makeup and clothes etc.

Its probably time to have "the chat" with your daughter as well as your wife. By your previous "almost caught" posts, why delay the inevitable ? It sounds like you have a loving family and while it may lead to awkward discussions, what do you have to loose ?

Molly Wells
08-26-2020, 11:15 AM
A quick update...

My daughter (she is 37) and I had a short conversation on Monday (following Sunday discovery).
She came home between work assignments and we had just a few minutes alone. She was acting as though there were no concerns so I brought it up. I told her we probably need to have a conversation and she agreed. She immediately stated that she was totally shocked but also thought about it after she left and felt that what I do in my personal/private life is not her concern. She laughed a little saying that she can't unsee what she saw, never expecting to see her dad looking like a woman.
She assured me that she had not said anything to her mom or anyone else. I told her that this has been a part of me since I was a child and that her mother wanted no part of it and was not accepting of it. I asked her if she would be able to maintain it as a private matter and keep it between the two of us. She assured me that it was between us and would go no further.
We were short on time to have a long conversation but will talk further later on. She said, "I want you to know that nothing has changed between us, you are my Dad and will always be my dad. I think nothing less of you and love you!"
I found it interesting that yesterday afternoon when she got off of work she called me to let me know that she was on her way to the beach house to help them load up and leave. They were coming home early due to the storm in the gulf. She didn't say why she decided to call but I feel like it was a least partly so I would be ready.
She and I have always been close and I trust her to honor her word. As far as my wife, I am sure a day will come when we can have a conversation but it is not today.

Thanks to the group for the encouragement and support.

Molly

Stephanie47
08-26-2020, 11:26 AM
Happy to hear it seems to have worked out well with your daughter. I suspect your daughter called to give you a heads up so you're not caught off guard again. She'll probably do that more often now. My wife, a non-driver, always called when she was out to let me know which bus she was on. Rarely would I be doing anything femme when she called, but I always assumed it was that "heads Up call." Of course I always drove to the bus stop to pick her up. The call was a benefit for both of us.

Pumped
08-26-2020, 12:40 PM
That seems to turn out well. It seems everyone was correct in saying she would have noticed. Great of her to give you a heads up when they were on the way home.

Early on my wife tolerated my dressing, but didn't want to see it. I asked her to give me a call before she came home and she would. She finally figured the whole thing was silly and I dress around her now, heck we even dress together for "ladies nights" at home.

Star01
08-26-2020, 12:49 PM
We have a family lake home that my wife or I sometimes spend a couple days and nights at. It's only a 45 minute drive and I am always careful to not dress until I'm sure the coast is clear for the night. Often times that involves waiting until 8 or 9 pm and I do my best to never leave any evidence. One day about a month ago she left for the lake and I was so desperate after months with not much freedom that I started going around gathering things up and preparing to do my thing earlier than usual. I had not gotten cleaned up and shaved or anything and didn't have anything laying out in plain view but I was working in that direction. Suddenly she walks in out of the blue and says "don't you ever check your phone?" Guilty as charged, I have always been kind of a loner without any friends that I just hang with like younger people do and since I retired I rarely get any calls so a lot of days I'll leave it on the charger. She had given her key to one of the adult kids when their families had stayed there and forgot to check to see if she had a key so she came home for mine. I try to always wait until later when I know she isn't going to drive home in the dark but I was anxious to get started that day and had a brush with getting busted.

I don't know what your situation is but if you're like me and getting caught isn't worth the risk I'd wait until later in the day and not sleep dressed. Makeup would raise heck with trying to keep pillow cases clean anyways and it can cause skin problems so I remove mine before turning in.

Crissy 107
08-26-2020, 01:08 PM
Molly, Good to hear your daughter is ok with everything and will keep it quiet. Since you are in a DADT marriage, like myself, at least it would not have been as big of a deal if your wife did find out. Still better the way things worked out.

Just Dana
08-26-2020, 01:09 PM
Molly,

I'm so glad to hear everything worked out okay. It sounds like your daughter is a gem. Kudos to you and your wife's parenting!

Dana

kimdl93
08-26-2020, 01:26 PM
I’m glad you addressed this with your daughter. As a 37 year old, she displayed the hoped for maturity and admirable open-mindedness. Her subsequent call was an indication that she appreciates the nuances of your relationship with your wife too.

TillyCambiare
08-26-2020, 02:14 PM
Good to hear everything worked out for you. Well done for for bringing it up.
Not so much a bullet dodge as a bullet catch.

Tilly

michelleddg
08-26-2020, 02:46 PM
Hey Molly, all good. Did not realize previously you were out to your wife, so she knows it's a thing. Realize her imagination might be running rampant and think you're into all sorts of things that have never crossed your mind. She lives in fear of the day you'll be announcing your sex change. Please consider discussing with your daughter how to broach the topic with your wife. Strength and best of luck!

Hugs, Michelle

Micki_Finn
08-26-2020, 02:55 PM
Sorry, but reading your thread I had to laugh because your reaction probably totally made things worse. Throwing a blanket over yourself and saying you weren’t decent probably took things from “my dad dresses as a woman” to “my dad dresses as a woman and really enjoys himself”

DianeT
08-26-2020, 03:58 PM
Nice kid, you must at least have done something right.

Devi SM
08-26-2020, 09:49 PM
Honestly? Several had given you the reality sooner you will know it because you keep in the pink fog.

Men think their wife is idiot and her daughters the same, it's not.

I don't know why so many guys are so scaried of telling wufe they are crossdressers. Are you seeing other crossdressers and having sex with them? You don't say it somi assumed you don't. Are you bisexual? You don't say so i assumed that you dont.

I was all that and had the guts to tell my "reality" my truth to my wife because I love her and couldn't keep liying her.

Long story short, she still loving me, in the process I discovered I'm trans no bisexual and now I'm full time living as I meant to be, keep happily married, living together, no more lies to anybody, included my three sons and their wives and my grandson.

Just today I received confirmation from the court for the submission on changing name and gender marker in process.

Most of the time our fears are just our imagination a d we are surrounded for people that loves us and if they don't love us why to keep lying them?

Life is just one and everybody deserves to li e as real is possible.

Good luck but I recommend you to go and tell the truth to your wife, you will be surprised for her answes but if you don't tell her and she finds it by herself, start looking for a good attorney and a place to live....

kimdl93
08-27-2020, 12:13 AM
Among the great errors any of us can make is to extrapolate or project our personal experience onto the lives of others. Its tempting, of course, to think that our experiences with wives, family, neighbors or employers might be representative of what others may experience. I tell my wife and I get outcome A. You tell your wife and get outcome B...and if a 1000 of us tell our wives, we get a wide range of outcomes, none of which individually predicts the next outcome.

Statistically speaking, the confidence interval for an N of 1 is extremely low, meaning that my personal experience cannot reliably predict your personal experience.

I wish it did. I?d love to have that predictive power and wield it to help other people achieve better outcomes.

Marianne S
08-27-2020, 01:18 AM
Molly, I'm very happy to hear things went well with your daughter. It's an interesting point that by and large the impression I have is that most people's daughters, and sons as well, seem to be tolerant of Dad's crossdressing. It's mainly some wives that have a problem with it. That of course might be because an older generation has more hangups about it. Or it might be because the special relationship between husband and wife, and the expectations that go along with it, make it harder for some wives to accept. Either way, children can be a blessing.

Teri Ray
08-27-2020, 06:13 AM
Molly I am glad to hear that you and your daughter are finding a way to work through this. Best wishes for your relationship with your daughter to continue be a happy one.

Kay J
08-27-2020, 06:19 AM
Molly i hope you gave your daughter a big hug and never forget what she did for you! Now its time to come out to your wife now not later!

Sometimes Steffi
08-27-2020, 06:25 AM
Well, you didn't dodge the bullet, but it didn't kill you either. Might have been quite a different story if your wife had come home instead of your daughter.

I hope this brings you and your daughter closer.

alwayshave
09-01-2020, 07:57 AM
Molly, whereas she thought you were naked she may have just wanted to get out of the house really quickly without noticing the clothes in the bathroom.