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CharlotteCD
04-21-2021, 04:08 PM
As posted in another thread, i've got the opportunity to dress and go out in just over a week. I'm really excited, but I don't know where I would go or what I would do...

I'm not sure about going for a drive just for the sake of going for a drive, as I am borrowing a car that weekend from my parents, and it seems like I am asking for trouble.

Going for a walk is somewhat of an option, however I will be somewhat conscious to be alone, even at my height.

Have I even gone out if I don't see anybody though? It's the weird conundrum of not wanting to see anybody, but I may as well have not gone out if I don't!

So where do you go?

Karren H
04-21-2021, 04:19 PM
In my book.... Number one... Shopping.... number two... shopping! Three.... Lol. I love going shopping enfemme! And going for a ride just for rides sake is a valid reason! Also going to a Casino enfemme is really fun as is going to the mall or going out to eat!

Jennifer in CO
04-21-2021, 04:42 PM
Charlotte, you don't say when you get to go out. Is it a daytime adventure? evening? whole day or a weekend? You say your worried about your height. I assume your tall. I'm 6'3 so most important is own it. If you don't want attention right off the bat, wear flats/loafers or other low-heeled shoe. Dress for what your doing /where your going. Before I transitioned in 81 my wife and I had gone out to dinner. I had always been a bit self-conscious of my height till that night. We had gone to the local Steak and Ale and were sitting in the waiting area when in walks several members of the then Dallas Diamonds womens basketball team. Not a one of them was under 6ft and I had to look up to one of them at 6'6. After several comments about why I wasn't on the team I explained about my asthma and they quickly understood. We sat and talked for a good 5-10 minutes then got called for our table. They were seated several tables from us and it gave me the opportunity to observe them. The most important thing I noticed was they ""owned" their stature. They were who they were and it was no big deal.
My life changed after that night. So I was a tall woman...big deal. It wasn't an overnight switch, but I'd say after a few weeks of consciously making the effort to not be self-conscious the idea finally took hold. Being tall was finally no big deal. My wife could tell you the night the "shell" fell off. We went out to dinner. Same restaurant. I wore 4" heels...

CharlotteCD
04-21-2021, 04:50 PM
I'm 6ft 5, and I've currently got a broken ankle that needs surgery, so I'm off crutches and heels, so flats only with some very unsexy strapping when I go out.

I've got an evening to myself - realistically I won't get out in the morning as it's going to be too early to get up and do makeup before I have to go again.

docrobbysherry
04-21-2021, 05:18 PM
I go out with other trans to CD friendly venues. So do a lot of other dressers!:hugs:

Visit the sections in the forum here that deal with events and outings if u r ever interested in that!:thumbsup:

MonicaPVD
04-21-2021, 07:01 PM
When I started going out dressed, I would run errands a town or two away from my own. Grocery store, pharmacy, bank ATM. Have a set of tasks to complete is much more normalizing than slinking around solo, imagining that every random glance your way is judgmental. (Hint: they aren't.) Plus, going out alone aimlessly gets boring fast.

kimdl93
04-21-2021, 07:39 PM
I started like almost everyone...going on daytime trips to the mall. Fairly soon I was walking my dogs in the neighborhood, going to the bank Starbucks, grocery shopping, to the dry cleaners, live theater, museums and even the auto dealership for routine maintenance. Eventually, I began traveling cross country in girl mode too. My favorite places...really I think i?ve most enjoyed going out to dinner and drinks, with friends or alone.

TheHiddenMe
04-21-2021, 07:52 PM
That's the spirit!

Here's what I did.

https://www.crossdressers.com/forums/showthread.php?244397-Three-Plus-Days-of-Dressing&highlight=

Hannah of this forum and hannahmcknight.org is tall also. It doesn't stop her.

I finally figured out that people may know it's a guy in a dress but they don't know it's ME in the dress.

I wanted to try on clothes, so I made arrangements to make it happen.

And I realized that the world didn't care, except for those who I met who cheered and supported me.

What do you WANT to do?

Choices are malls, casinos, stores, restaurants, cafes, museums, etc. But malls are a good first choice.

If you want to know where I go, I've got about 75 threads in the picture gallery talking about them--all since the first one I linked above.

Yinlingyen
04-21-2021, 08:29 PM
To start , window shopping is great. No one can bother you and you get to see your own reflection in the window.
Once you gain confidence you can go for a walk in a mall which is safer than the streets.
Once you gain more confidence you can even interact with people.
That's how I started.

Krisi
04-22-2021, 07:38 AM
I will just post some things that I have done. They may or may not work for you:

Walk around inside a shopping mall. Stop and look in the windows, sit on the benches and watch people go by.

Go to the tourist part of town and act like a tourist. Look at the sights, read the historical signs, take photos, etc.

Drive around (you'll probably have to drive to get to the places mentioned above anyway), get out of the car to mail a letter, throw trash in a public trash container and pump gas into the car.

Some of these things will not excite everyone, but I'm not comfortable going to clubs, bars, etc. and not comfortable talking to sales people in stores because of my voice.

Best of luck.

Michaela Jane
04-22-2021, 08:05 AM
Charlotte, it's nice to see a girl taller than my 6' 3". Most of my "going out" has been in stealth femme and only once have I been out anywhere in a skirt and wig. Then it was a park, plenty of people around and a park that had places to sit.

abby054
04-22-2021, 08:21 AM
Good question. Where I live, shopping is futile. Entertainment and dining were sparse to begin with. What COVID did not wipe out, Amazon did. The only clothing store closer than 150 km is a Ross. The biggest clothing store in town is primarily a hardware store. The fashion police gave up and moved away. Travel is not an option. New spacious airports (like Boise and others) are sprouting like weeds but they all look totally vacant all the time, even before COVID. The daily riots and aggressive vagrants make the big cities, Seattle and Portland, too dangerous even for non cross dressers. The border to Canada is closed.

What do people do here, a long distance from anywhere? Outdoor activities of all kinds. But everyone regardless of gender looks the same when dressing for the outdoors. Buttons on the other side of a shirt is as gender varying as it gets. All dressed up and no place to go is the order of the day.

Jillian Faith
04-22-2021, 08:29 AM
Well the broken ankle certainly puts a damper on dressing and going out, but I'm with Karren when in doubt I go shopping!

Teresa
04-22-2021, 08:57 AM
Charlotte,
May I ask what is the risk with the car , is it because it could be recognised or because driving is difficult with your injury ?

I would still suggest you take a drive rather than walking too far with your ankle situation , I wouldn't want to risk a further fall and then find it's made worse because you are dressed as Charlotte .

As for me I don't have to think about where to go for something special because it's just normal to be out as Teresa everyday . When the next stage of lockdown eases I will be going to view stately homes and gardens and just enjoying feeling that little bit freer .

BrendaPDX
04-22-2021, 09:06 AM
Walmart, there is always someone way more over the top than you:battingeyelashes:

Di
04-22-2021, 09:16 AM
I normally would say go shopping or window shopping.
But since you have the ankle problem right now I agree with Teresa go for a drive, maybe stop and get a coffee (drive though) go to a nice park and enjoy the day.
I think do not add extra stress on yourself with the temp ankle problem. You want the first time to be stress free.
Also please stop the negative thoughts of being too tall just own it.
Think positive and visualize call yourself being confident.....then act Confident till you are confident.

Think of something you would like and feel comfortable with. After you get it under your belt a few times you can just go anywhere.

CharlotteCD
04-22-2021, 09:37 AM
Charlotte,
May I ask what is the risk with the car , is it because it could be recognised or because driving is difficult with your injury ?


The risk is that it's a classic car, and it's pretty recognisable. My parents have lived in the same location for 30+ years, and both they and their house are well known as "the classic car house".

Whilst some may mistake me for my Mum, the concern is still that it either breaks down, I am spotted and read by a family friend, have an accident because of my nerves, or get pulled in by the police.

I've been pulled over once in 14 years, and totally deserved it, so the likelihood is very low, but the fear is very real.

char GG
04-22-2021, 10:01 AM
Hi Charlotte,

I agree with Di. Try to keep your head held high and embrace your height. I think tall women look stunning. Most women models are very tall. It makes me wish I were taller.

Your unique car situation presents a problem. If you don't want to drive around CDed in your parents car, maybe you can take your women's clothes with you to a mall or someplace where there is a single stall restroom and change. Walk around the mall, eat at a food court, browse a bookstore if there is one, then change back before you drive the car home. By the time you spend a few hours on your ankle, you may be ready to get off of your feet. You probably don't want to worry about the car, be noticed, or be distracted while driving so don't make yourself uncomfortable.

BTW, your newest photograph in the pink dress is beautiful. That would be a great mall dress.

Enjoy your time out whatever you choose to do.

Cheryl T
04-22-2021, 10:06 AM
I'm with Karren.
Shopping is my go to Go To. As for being tall, just remember, there are tall women in the world. You won't be the tallest ever by along shot. Yes, people will look, but they would look if you were 4'5" as well. If you present yourself with confidence you'll be fine. Own it where ever you go.

Stephanie47
04-22-2021, 10:22 AM
I have always made decisions using "risks v rewards." You're tall. I am six foot bare footed. Add heels and both of us are way taller than the average woman. If your potential adventure is going to run from 6 PM to 8 AM there really is not too much time to go to a mall. Sometimes the anticipation exceeds the actual event. I have no desire to go to a mall. It is outside my comfort zone. There are many ladies advising to not go for a stroll. Going for a walk is within my comfort zone. My favorite neighbor is totally residential with tree lined streets with little traffic. There are two 24 hour grocery stores. I use the ruse of coming home from the store by carrying a tote which usually contains a change of male clothing in the event I need them (car break down). I end up maybe walking for a half hour which gets all that pent up demand satisfied. Then it becomes, "OK, I've done that. Now what?"

Having the use of a recognizable classic car complicates the adventure. I drive a run of the mill Toyota Corolla. Totally boring car. If you're going out during daylight the complication is getting to the car and out of the neighborhood. That can be done not wearing a wig. Of course, if it a rather unique classic car you may attract unwanted attention no matter where you go. Tough choice.

Aunt Kelly
04-22-2021, 11:09 AM
You hit the nail on the head. There's going out and then there's just slinking around where nobody will notice. Go do something you enjoy, e.g. shopping, dining, concert, whatever. Yes, social distancing somewhat limits the options, but you can do it.

Sallee
04-22-2021, 12:27 PM
I would like to say I go where ever but that wouldn't be totally true However I do go to the mall for sure, shopping and shopping. I have been to drag shows always fun, even done the grocery store and lots of walks in the park. You can pretty much go where ever you want just remember dress for the occasion. Slacks and flats are a good choice for anywhere. To drag shows do it up you'll get read no matter what. Most folks are to wrapped up in their own life to even notice you if they do it is just a passing glance as they move on. After you have been a few places you won't have any problems

StephanieCLT
04-22-2021, 01:46 PM
For me, since I usually dress when I'm on the road for work, it's after work and out for the night. Since I'm always by myself, it's dinner, and if there's time, I'll try to squeeze in some shopping, even window shopping, if I can. There's something different (and awesome) shopping for women's clothes en femme. Whatever you do, have fun doing it. Take time to breathe and smile every once and a while!

Alice Torn
04-22-2021, 03:02 PM
I m six six, and did go out several times a year for a while, to outdoor classical concerts, to a few stores, and walking, but never talked much with anyone. I never could find size 16 flats, so wore 4"' or 2 1/2" heels. Was made fun of my some teens.

Ressie
04-22-2021, 05:17 PM
Went out with a few CD friends during the last 6 weeks. There's a kind of new Hamburger Mary's in the area so that was our first outing. A couple weeks later we went to a restaurant/bar kind of upscale place. No problems at either venue other than the covid restrictions on seating/spacing.

Kandi Robbins
04-22-2021, 05:49 PM
Not sure where you live, but if you want to go out and soak it all in, visit a museum. You will be in public. You will be in an accepting environment. You can leisurely walk about, listen to your heels click, take photos, basically just breathe and relax. You may well have a wonderful interaction with someone. Then grab a glass of wine somewhere.

Debs
04-22-2021, 06:15 PM
I am in the UK and am very fortunate to live near a seaside place called Blackpool (google it), its got loads of drag clubs and gay venues, there are safe places and very safe places if you know where to go, never really have any trouble if I stick to safe venues all within a half mile radius, some clubs are 100 yards between each other, got to say all seem to be welcome wether you pass as female or not, I stay at a place called "Peak a Booze" its a drag club with bed and breakfast stay over the club, so you only have to walk downstairs to be in a bar full of Crossdressers, Trans , and evrything else yu can imagin, and I love it everybody friendly, always have an amazing night, other clubs down the road "The Flying Handbag" is another great safe venue, and several stops eitherside of the road. Now shopping in the afternoon in Blackpool is safe in the town centre, nobody seems to care, and lots of shops to dart into if you have a problem, big shopping malls with security also make you feel safe, you actually notice quite a few of our girls out shopping, but nobody really bats an eylid in Blackpool. There are no no go places though, the pubs on the sea front can be a bit unsafe, with stag parties and macho gangs, so we dont go down there not even in a group. My point is if you pick the right venues who cares if you pass or not, your not going to get challenged or judged, so do your homework and pick the right place to go, and nobody gives a hoot what you look like.

Lori Ann Westlake
04-22-2021, 08:05 PM
Sounds like Blackpool really reinvented itself!

MarinaTwelve200
04-22-2021, 09:56 PM
I don't go anywhere--I stay home---and experiment and photograph the results.

Sandi Beech
04-23-2021, 05:47 AM
Charlotte

I suspect many of us have been where you find yourself now - wanting to go out but unsure of ourselves. I totally get it because I have been there as well.

FYI the car situation is easy to resolve, just use Lyft or Uber. I have used them while dressed probably 100 or more times and never had an issue with them. In fact one male driver pulled out his phone and showed me a picture of himself dressed up. We had a fun conversation about it.

I have pretty much gotten where I mostly just go to LGBT friendly bars and clubs. I almost always end up having lengthy and friendly conversations with accepting people. I just do not have that happen all that much when shopping although that can be fun, so I am not knocking shopping. That is fun as well.

You are attractive enough you will not have any problems. The only thing holding you back now is self doubt. Once you have friendly interactions with others, your confidence will go WAY up. You just have to trust me on that.

Of course I would not go out and about that much unless you have the covid vaccine if I were you. Good luck, you can do it.

Sandi

Rachelakld
04-23-2021, 06:06 AM
I started a a quiet coffee shop early in the morning and botanic gardens, the movies, libraries can be quiet, eventually the doctors, blood bank, the mall, the pools and occasionally the local bar

Krisi
04-23-2021, 07:41 AM
The risk is that it's a classic car, and it's pretty recognisable. My parents have lived in the same location for 30+ years, and both they and their house are well known as "the classic car house".


OK, that's understandable. You don't have your own car? How do you normally get around (as a male)?

CharlotteCD
04-23-2021, 07:57 AM
I share a car with my wife - it was a massive saving, and we very rarely clash with car needs. My wife will be with her mum this time however and have the car. I've got free reign to use my parents car whenever I want, I just need to time it right...

CarynPB
04-23-2021, 09:58 AM
Wish I was as brave as some of you girls! I've only been out a few times. Local gay bars, a few night-time drives etc. Need to get over the fear I guess ( so self conscious about being tall).

samuktv
04-23-2021, 12:42 PM
My first time I said to myself I just go to the waterfront and walk around. Then I thought, screw it, life is daring adventure or nothing at all. So I just took the train in the city centre and just spent the shopping and interacting with sales assistants. X

XemmaX
04-23-2021, 02:03 PM
Coffee shop is a good start, i think.

Bobbi46
04-23-2021, 03:25 PM
My first time out were bordering on frightening but i had to do that because it was a part of me and was something I had to do complete my journey as it were. Subsquently to that o clothes shop that I became a regular customer was a huge boost to my confidence and I was helped greatly by the two women that worked there, sadly that shop is no longer there and since then my confidence has reched the point that I am no longer bothered by the odd glance, if, for whatever reason I get looked at longer than at other times I give a polite smile and/or hello and that works wonders. Add to this that I go pretty much everywhere now.

Julie 29
04-23-2021, 04:48 PM
Before the Pandemic I would go to the Exit in Chicago. The have a DJ that plays Metal, Industial, and Punk music. The people there are friendly and down to earth. Parking doesn't cost a anythings.https://www.google.com/search?gs_ssp=eJzj4tZP1zcsq0iLLzYsMWC0UjWosLAwSEsx SrE0SjY1STFNM7QyqEg2SEyzsDAzNk9KMjY3NjT04ijJSFVIrc gsAQAyFhHy&q=the+exit&rlz=1C1PRFE_enUS700US714&oq=the+exit&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j46i175i199l3j0j46l2j0j46j0.6024 j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8. I hope later this year if not next year to go to the Exit again.

TheHiddenMe
04-23-2021, 10:58 PM
Wish I was as brave as some of you girls! I've only been out a few times. Local gay bars, a few night-time drives etc. Need to get over the fear I guess ( so self conscious about being tall).

I read stories on this board and on blogs about going out in public. I decided if others did it and lived to talk about it, then I could too.

So I did. I've had probably 200 times out since then, zero bad experiences. I've been to maybe one LGBT specific location (with Kandi in Cleveland). Otherwise, every location has been in the world of the muggles.

Andrea Renea
04-24-2021, 06:36 AM
To the mall, ATM. post office, Target, Walmart, grocery store, Casinos in Cherokee NC
Las Vegas, Biloxi.

Pretty much anywhere I would normally go.

I've been called "sir" a few times but mostly referred to as ma'am or miss.

Genifer Teal
04-24-2021, 11:45 AM
There's an old joke that said if a crossdresser goes out and doesn't take a photo does it count? I think that's similar to yours if no one sees you. I think we build our own circle of acceptance. We make our own place to go out sort of. Perhaps it's easier because I'm fortunate to live near New York City, east of the city. I've managed to carve my own little niche in the 50s single crowd. I can go to a lot of different places and usually run into a handful of people I know. Maybe there's a hobby you like or something else and you can make a space for yourself there. All it took was acceptance from a few and they grew to acceptance from many. I hope you can find a place where you can feel at home like I do.

CarynPB
04-24-2021, 04:55 PM
not sure how I could leave this out....while on vacation in Tokyo...the Onnanoko Club in Shinjuku, A small crossdresser bar that provides clothes and makeup. No one besides me spoke English but it was a blast!

HollyGreene
04-28-2021, 07:16 PM
I live near the sea, so I often go walking on the cliff tops in one of the less busy areas. Or I go through the park that leads down to the beach.

Lana Mae
04-28-2021, 07:24 PM
Where ever I want! Dress for the venue, get your walk down, enjoy to the max! Hugs Lana Mae

Sometimes Steffi
04-29-2021, 12:57 AM
I go shopping at vanilla stores en femme, usually alone, but sometimes with friends. I go out to restaurants and bars (both vanilla and LGBT), sometimes alone and sometimes with friends. I go out with my local T-girl group, usually 20 to 40 girls, but it's been as many as 100. We usually hang out at the bar/restaurant at a local hotel. Some of the best expediences have been meeting GGs while we were out, like the GG girls from the quincinerra party or the GG girls from the travelling soccer team, or the people from the wedding party.

Lori Anne
04-29-2021, 10:00 AM
My first time out, dressed, i checked my (away from home) mailbox; then feeling brave, I did my grocery shopping. If I go out dressed now, I just do whatever I'd do if I were not "dressed". I just try to blend in.

CynthiaD
04-30-2021, 11:30 PM
Last week was my “two weeks after second shot” so I’ve been going out en femme every day since. Let’s see if I can remember ...
Friday Salt Grass Steakhouse for dinner. Also, I checked into a hotel en femme, using my male name. Not my first time.
Saturday, went to a wig shop for a new wig. I got some snacks at CVS. I also stopped at “Buckey’s” on the way home. It’s a convenience store on steroids.
Sunday, drove to the park, but was too overdressed to use the exercise trail.
Monday, went for a walk inside Walmart. Can’t remember what I bought.
Tuesday, did the exercise trail at the park. Got some donuts and some cupcakes at two different stores.
Wednesday, dropped some stuff off at Goodwill.
Thursday, more donuts. Got lunch at an Italian place.
Friday, (today) went for a walk inside of Kohl’s (it’s been rainy). Got some new earrings. Went to Starbucks for coffee.

To OP: does this answer your question?

I don’t go any special place when I’m en femme. I just do regular stuff, because I’m just a regular gal.

Jillcder
05-01-2021, 07:21 AM
My first public outing was a mall 4yrs ago since then I have been out at least 50 times mainly shopping in the malls fortunately I live in the Minneapolis area with the mall of America being a great all day outing. Recently I have started going out to nice restaurants with what I consider a safe bar atmosphere. I also dress at hotels when traveling for work. Next on my list is a casino and I would love to sit at a crowded bar on Friday evening.

Teresa.Smith.VA
05-03-2021, 01:49 PM
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JulieC
05-03-2021, 07:54 PM
I wish I could have that joy. Don't get me wrong; my wife is 100% supportive, and would do this. It's me that's the problem. I have too many features that are dead giveaways that prevent me from passing. I would want to pass enough at least to make people second guess themselves if they suspected. But, I am way far off from pulling that off. My only advantage in that regard is that I am not all that tall. But, I've got a huge head, block jaw, etc. etc.

So for me when I want to get out in public...it's to get into public but not be seen, per se. I don't go into stores. I especially like rainy, cold evenings when I can wear a nice dress and heels, cover up well and carry an umbrella to hide my face to anyone who comes close by.

Teresa.Smith.VA
05-04-2021, 07:35 AM
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SometimesNatalie
05-04-2021, 12:38 PM
When I work up the courage to venture out it's always the late-night car ride to nowhere. It's always been thrilling, but the last time I did it I got home and thought well, that's over, and I'm not completely satisfied. Felt like I had a little more courage left in the tank, sorta.

On a few occasions I've been able to find a nice empty parking lot to pause in and get out but I found out that local law enforcement sometimes considers that suspicious, heh.

Sandi Beech
06-01-2021, 03:14 PM
I have been meaning to type up a list of all the bars or clubs I have visited so here it is. Maybe it will be a help to someone looking
for a place to dress up. I don't know where you live Charlotte, but maybe one of these is in visiting range. Some are a lot of fun.

Sandi

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Clearwater FL * Quench Lounge - Decent bar with pool tables, clean bathrooms and people were friendly

Denver CO Triangle Club - Decent mix of people, small dance area, fairly lively bar.

Denver CO Blush and Blue - Designated a lesbian bar but I was well accepted by those at the bar the one night I visited. Met some nice women.

Denver CO * Tracks Nightclub - Very lively dance club - lots of fun but no quiet areas so difficult to talk to people, Very accepting of dressers.

El Paso TX Touch Lounge - Well decorated and and nice bar with nice drag show stage. Only visited once but highly recommended. Met another crossdresser there

El Paso TX Chiquita's - Don't even bother

El Paso TX Briar Patch - Not sure I would go back, in El Paso the Touch Lounge would be a better choice, but I was well treated at this bar.

Ft Wayne IN After Dark - Now this is a large and fun club with drag shows and a dance floor featuring a large bird cage that maybe 5 or so people can dance in at a time. I met a couple of the drag queens and was introduced to one by a woman who was sitting next to me. One of the drag queens goes by the name of "Seven" and has a smaller than typical stature such that I had to do a double take to see if she was a drag queen or GG.

Gainesville FL University Club - This is a college town club and when I visited I was well treated and had a lot of fun. Tons of women poured in for the drag show and a very pretty blonde GG offered to let me a drink out of her huge drink. It is amazing to have women warm up to me so easily. This club has 3 floors, so it is large. Highly recommended.

Houston TX Guava - Mixed feelings about this club. Although I was well treated, it was mostly men and I like a mix of people at a club. The decor is decent and they had singers one of the nights who were quite good. I just prefer clubs that are not mostly men.

Houston TX JRs Bar and Grill - This is a large sprawling bar. Again I was well treated, they had a drag show when I was there, but again this place was mostly men supposedly the owner is also the owner of a club called South Beach which is undergoing rennovations and I really wanted to go there. That was pre-covid so I have no idea if that club is ever going to reopen or not. I can't say I have a favorite club in Houston yet.

Jacksonville FL Metro - Not that bad, but they allowed smoking which I do not like so I will probably will not return.

Jacksonville FL Park Place Lounge - Small bar with what I suspect were mostly locals hanging out with friends. It is one of the few places I did not meet anyone but the bartender called me honey so I can say I was well treated. I might go back again if in that area.

Knoxville TN Edge - Spent a lot of time here in 2017, my first bar to go to dressed. I made about 10 friends, half men , half women. When my work was done in this city, one of the female bartenders ran into the parking lot to give me a hug goodby. Allmost makes me teary eyed just to think about it Not a great place for dancing, but they have a very nice back outdoor area, and very descrete parking out back. This is a great place for a cross dresser to visit.

Las Vegas NV Pirana - A very large and interesting popular club. Lots of dancing going on, but it was VERY crowded when I went and drinks were $28 each - very pricey. So it should have been more fun. It probably would have if not so crowded. There were herds of people streaming past me when I was seated. I did meet an interestding cross dresser there wearing something that looked more like plasic than fabric. Sounds weird but actually looked good.

Las Vegas NV Phoenix - Seemed to be a nice group of people - probably more locals than tourists. It is a nice place to hang out and meet people.

Nashville TN Lipstick Lounge - Nice club but quite small and crowded - would be better if the place were larger.

Ocala FL The Copa Lounge - Don't bother. Smoking allowed and mostly empty when I went.

Ogunquit ME Maine Street Bar - Nice little bar just North of Portsmouth NH. People were friendly. Just a bar with some pool tables , etc.

Raleigh NC Legends - One of my favorites. Large sprawling complex. Mulitple bars, Sexy looking women. Dance floor area was OK, but small. They have a cool secret bar room with a prohibition them. You have to know where to knock to get in. I like this place a lot. A Holiday inn is walking distance 1 block away.

Richmond VA Babes of Carytown - I was not too impressed but went on a slow week night. Might be an OK place on weekends. They had Karioki when I was there - not really my thing.

Savannah GA Club One - Wonderful place on weekends especially during tourist season (summer). Large club - 3 floors. Home of the famous but now deceased Lady Chablis drag queen who was in the movie Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil. One of my favorite clubs.

St Louis MO Rehab Bar - Great bar in an area with a number of LGBT spots to visit. I met some very nice people and got a number of friendly hugs from women and men.

Tampa FL * The Castle - I visited there twice recently and what a blast, Very interesting place for people watching. Very well accepted here, but FYI most people wear black or some kind of costume. Really interesting place to visit.

* recently visited, all others were pre-covid visits so I do not know the current status of those.

michellecd9999
06-03-2021, 10:24 AM
Depends on how well you pass. I seem to pass most times so I have been to many retail stores, restaurants, bars, etc., as well as just walking around the downtown area of Athens GA. Also many of the same in Atlanta. The few times that I was “made” I was still treated with respect and dignity. I have also been hit on by several men but wear a female wedding band set to let them know I am spoken for.