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Sophie62
04-07-2006, 09:34 PM
Hi Ladies :rose2:


How does the topic of TG's affects you when it is addressed by others ?

You know, girls, discovering this forum has brouhgt a lot of memories to me. I did not only remember when I first tried nail polish at the age of 6, but also how the subject of TG's has affected me.

You see, I am a child born in the early 1960's at that time the general public knew about transexualism. The people would had probably heard about Christine Jorgensen,who went into SRS from 1952 - 1954. I am pretty sure many people knew about Coccinelle or Marie-Pier Ysser , both beautiful TS Women (how much I admire beautiful TSWoman like these two) . I can clearly remember my father mentioning something about Coccinelle, "a man that thought he was a woman and later became one". The story fascinated me and to think about it gave me butterflies in my stomach. I did not understand why, but I knew it was because I like the idea of becoming a woman.

I also remember a movie from the same period of time "Good Bye Charlie" (1964) directed by Vincente Minnelli with the acting of Tony Curtis and Debbie Raynolds as "The Reincarnated Charlie". The plot is about a guy called Charlie who is shot by a jealous husband. Charlie falls out a porthole and is lost at sea only to find himself returned as an attractive blond woman".

The movie I saw it on TV when I was about 10 years old. I loved the fact that this guy became a beautiful woman, very sexy and very well dressed. I remember a scene when Charlie was taken for the first time to a beauty parlor (what a turn on for me) and how she reacted so womanly towards jewlery. It is hard to express the feelings that I felt while watching the movie with my two brothers. I felt kind of ashamed but at the same time amused. Deep down inside of me I wanted to be Charlie, "die and be transformed into a beautiful woman".

I can believe, I am writting all these to you, girls. I think I will have a lot of material to discuss with my future therapist. The same happened when I first read about Christine Jorgensen, I was about 13 years of age. I remember being fascinated with the idea of a successful sex change operation. I remember that was the first time I heard about silicon breast. The same with Renne Richards, I read her story while in college. I have always been captivated with the TG's topic, but always accompanied with the sense of shame and remorse.

I only mention the good feelings that I get when I hear or read about TG's. But what about the bad experiences. How do you feel when they talk down about the subject?. You see, people, except you, do no know I am an hetereosexual TV. I have never talk about these things to anybody except you, ladies. So, when someone is in front of me that person might just start talking rubbish about TV's and ,of course, I felt bad and ashamed of myself. I really, really hate that feeling.Ohhh, ladies, thank you for existing.This is really tough and confusing for me.

Well, it would be interesting to know if some of you share some of the same emotions that the whole subject of TG's brings to the surface.


Love



Sophie:GE:

Jennaie
04-07-2006, 10:21 PM
Sophie:

Thanks for sharing your story. I believe that there are many more people out there who feel as you do but never have the opportunity to express their feelings to anyone. I am glad that you found this forum and feel like you can share your feelings with others.

I, as most everyone here, have a long story that goes back as far as I can remember. I think anyone who is transgendered does.

I don't let the negative talk about tg's bother me too much. When I hear someone talking badly about any people who are different "according to social standards", it always crosses my mind that it is "on theirs".

Perhaps they are trying very hard to cover some of their own secrets.

Hugs.

Eric/a
04-07-2006, 10:27 PM
The people would had probably heard about Christine Jorgensen,who went into SRS from 1652 - 1954.

I think we ALL would have heard about somebody who took 302 years for SRS! I'm sure you meant 1952-1954, but I couldn't resist! :D

Denise01
04-07-2006, 10:56 PM
When i hear people making un-kind comments or remarks, about cd'ers or TS, I just ignore them, and also consider where the comment is coming in.

As hey say, you never know what it is like on the other side until you have walked a mile in their shoes, or should i say, walked a mile in a skirt and heels.

Denise

Kaylee Ann
04-07-2006, 11:56 PM
Sophie, I've seen that movie many times, and I totally understand what you mean.

Kaylee

Eugenie
04-08-2006, 01:25 AM
Thanks Sophie,

That's a very nice topic. When I read all these comments on various forums I just wish I could have had access to them a long time ago as I've learned so much about being the person whom I am through the experiences of other and their comments.

Learning about X-dressing, transvestism, transgenderism and transsexualism and their various aspects would probably helped me build another life.

Unfortunately, such forum didn't exist when I was discovering my feminine side. At that time such subjects were tabou, even in the so called "specialised press"... I read the story of Coccinelle when I was much older. I think she was a pionneer for transsexuals and more generally for transgenders.

Perhaps, if I had known more earlier my life would have been quite different.

But since one can't go back in time, I'm just happy now to have access to all the discussions about our "femme side" on the internet. Even though I've been x-dressing since my early teens, it is only relatively recently that I've been feeling "femme". A couple of years ago, following my discovery of the wide world of TG forums and websites, I had very pregnant and disturbing thoughts of sex reassignment. I finally came to realize that this couldn't happen at this late time in my life. But I have definitely changed my view on x-dressing and I am now more feeling like a transgendered person than like a fetishist transvestite which was more what I was before.

So thank you all for enabling me to discover my way in that feminine self that I had inside me.

Love from France.

Eugenie

sparks
04-08-2006, 02:08 AM
I can relate! Even though few topics are sacred to me! For example I giggle everytime I think of this shirt that says "Necrophelia lay back and crack a cold one!" Yep I get the chortles just about for anything but every once in a while something hits home!
I'm thinking off the local weirdo that actually goes into the dressing room with bras to try on! Girls it is not me! This guy does care what other think of him! Very brave to do in this one horse town! Well he is exceptionally odd and in his fifties I would say! Not much for friends but hangs with his Mom lots!
My good friend often tells stories of this guy! Sometimes I feel sick inside and would like to ask my friend if we would like to see the butt-flaus I sported yesterday!
Yep than reality takes hold and I ignore the whole thing accept the empty feeling I have inside!

Maureen Henley
04-08-2006, 05:08 AM
I am sorry to say that when I hear the homophobia/genderphobia espoused at work, I simply keep my mouth shut and cringe, when I really want to berate these idiots for their intolerance and hatred. Alas, I feel too outnumbered and cowardly to speak out. Sometimes, I feel like Peter in the courtyard on Good Friday when the **** crows.

Teresa Amina
04-08-2006, 06:42 AM
I remember that Charlie movie- was so embarassed to be watching it if someone came in the room I'd run over (no remote in those days!) and switch the channel. "What were you watching?" "Oh, nothing.":o Did get me thinking about reincarnation and whether that was what I was all about.
When I've been in situations where some idiot was joking about TG/TSs I've always tried to keep in mind Shakespeare- "Me thinks he protesteth too much!"
Maybe the ones who feel compelled to loudly object to such things are really Sisters under the skin.:D

barbie lanai
04-08-2006, 10:49 AM
I was in the Navy when I first saw Goodbye Charlie. I enjoyed it and afterwards mentioned liking it to another swabbie. His answer "only bearded ladies would like that movie". Guess in his own way he was right, I liked it. But I learned to not say it anymore.

The movie that affected me was "Some Like It Hot", with Toni Curtis, Jackie Lemon, & MM. The idea that guys could dress up and pass in public on a train full of women. WOW if only I could play an instrument.