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Fainne the King
04-11-2006, 09:39 AM
So I went to the mall the other day, in my regular clothes, and I noticed a couple things. First of all, in one store there were a few effeminate men picking out skirts. No one looked at them strange, they were very nice and complimented my friends shoes. The salespeople were helpful to them and had no problem with them trying on the skirts in the store. I wanted to pat them on the back for being able to be so open.
Secondly, I went to look for some men's clothes, so I was on the men's side of the store, and the salespeople were nice, asked me if I needed help, and let me use the men's dressing room. Now they probably thought I was a lesbian, but regardless, I found it much less of a big deal than I thought it would be to try on the opposite clothes while I wasn't crossdressed. Or maybe it's just that the stores I shop in are more tolerant of the gay community. (Hot Topic, GAP) Have you guys encountered things like this? Or on the other hand, salespeople being rude to you?

Kieron Andrew
04-11-2006, 09:46 AM
hiya Fainne,

I dress in male clothes all the time, and there was a time i would just buy the item of clothing and leave the store as i thought i couldnt possibly go in the men's changing rooms.......well a few weeks back i wanted to really badly to buy this shirt i saw but being large breasted i needed to try it on......so i thought im not buying it then returning it if it dont fit........so went to the guys changing rooms........tried the shirt on no problems, didnt even get so much as a raised eyebrow..........will i be changing in the boys room from now on????????? definitely yes

Adam
04-11-2006, 10:38 AM
i always go shopping in the town next to ours where no one nos me and i always try on the items b4 i buy in the mens changeing rooms and noone has ever said anything just the other day i got myself new shirt and shoes and the assistant was well nice :)

Sherlyn
04-11-2006, 10:39 AM
Shopping is a funny thing at times ....I notice myself that no one pays mind to a women in the male section digging thru everything from undies to outies..however when I myself in guy mode enter the womens area ..and do the same ..i can sense being watched by male and female customers ..whys that guys ?

Kieron Andrew
04-11-2006, 10:45 AM
Shopping is a funny thing at times ....I notice myself that no one pays mind to a women in the male section digging thru everything from undies to outies..however when I myself in guy mode enter the womens area ..and do the same ..i can sense being watched by male and female customers ..whys that guys ?
i think if what is seen as a GM is routing through undies/ womens clothes.....there is this automatic stigma of 'perv' which is so wrong, plenty of guys shop for their female partners........but if us FTMs look thru the mens section we're seen as butch lesbians.......

Sherlyn
04-11-2006, 11:02 AM
Must be us Tg's coz when I see.. either or.. shopping in the others section I think nothing of it ...just shoppers looking for a deal no matter which gender of clothing it may be ..its funny.. I will go to the Goodwill store in male mode to the women's section and its a sure thing I get looks from the ladies ..but when I'm in Sher mode ...no one cares ...tis a good thing tho :) in that respect ..lol

Caroline Simmons
04-11-2006, 11:03 AM
Sorry boys Girlie taking over your thread


I’ve always found it quite easy shopping for female clothes whilst in male mode
yeah you get one or two funny looks. but mostly the assistants have been friendly and helpful. and have used the changing facilities a few time.. So guys just go for it

Caroline
Ill go back to the girls department store now

Kieron Andrew
04-11-2006, 11:04 AM
..but when I'm in Sher mode ...no one cares ...tis a good thing tho :) in that respect ..lolyou must pass as a Genectic girl then...and from your pics i say you do

Kieron Andrew
04-11-2006, 11:05 AM
Sorry boys Girlie taking over your thread


I’ve always found it quite easy shopping for female clothes whilst in male mode
yeah you get one or two funny looks. but mostly the assistants have been friendly and helpful. and have used the changing facilities a few time.. So guys just go for it

Caroline
Ill go back to the girls department store now
lol ello caroline....glad you could join us!!

Kieron Andrew
04-11-2006, 11:49 AM
Well, if my parentals are around then I use the women's changerooms, even if directed (by the salesperson) to use the mens.
Otherwise, I usually use the mens. If they have the changerooms seperate then it's definately the mens rooms, because there's no way I'm going all the way over to the womens section just to stand in line for their chnagerooms and get glared/stared at. If they're together then I just go whichever direction the salesperson points me in, which is usually a good indication as to how well I'm passing. And they usually point me towards the mens.
you lucky so-in-so........very rarely do i get seen as a boy.....bugs the heck outta me

mistunderstood
04-11-2006, 04:18 PM
I buy cloths from same company so i know they fit. But when I go out I pass almost all the time.

Wren
04-11-2006, 10:59 PM
I only got the "this is the men's department" once, but I think it's because I was just being insulted for being a little girl laughing at things. So that doesn't count.

Otherwise, I have a feeling I live in a bubble of a city, I haven't actually noticed any difference between the men's and women's changerooms because everyone just uses any of them. No one makes faces, and it seems that to work in a clothing store as a male you have to be a certified flamboyant man. At least at the Gap.

CaptLex
04-12-2006, 09:13 AM
Otherwise, I have a feeling I live in a bubble of a city . . . and it seems that to work in a clothing store as a male you have to be a certified flamboyant man. At least at the Gap.
LOL! I guess that means if all else fails, I can always apply for a job at the Gap. :cheeky: Good to know.

I sometimes think I'd like to live in a bubble - away from all the hostility and discrimination in this world.

Bridget
04-19-2006, 10:20 AM
It's because a lot of women shop for other people. At least the gender stereotype goes that women are shoppers and browsers. If not shopping for SOs and children, they may be shopping for friends or whatnot. It's not conspicuous.

On the other side of the fence, although a lot of fellow MtFs say they feel watched when shopping, I don't really feel unwelcome. I think what it is, is that if you're not overly nervous and shifty, people will assume the simplest and most conventional explanation. A nervous person always attracts attention. And even if you do attract attention, they are more concerned that you might steal something, rather than wear teh womens clothing. But your results may vary.

Dressing rooms are another issue, however. People are more vigilant about the women's changing rooms, in my experience. There is a clerk inside to watch and count garments, the door can only be opened by an associate and other issues. Conversely on the men's side, the door is open and nobody is inside. But it's more related to theft deterrance rather than catching crossdressers. Although it must be admitted that also a woman in the men's changing room is considered less "dangerous" than a man in the women's chainging room, for obvious reasons. In that sense, it could be considered more difficult.

Gabriel
04-22-2006, 06:50 PM
I think what it is, is that if you're not overly nervous and shifty, people will assume the simplest and most conventional explanation. A nervous person always attracts attention. And even if you do attract attention, they are more concerned that you might steal something
True. Thus I try to discount any uncomfortable vibe I think I'm receiving from bystanders. It's all in the head, it's all in the head. :p

CharlaineCadence
04-23-2006, 03:27 AM
I know that when I go shopping esp at walmart, target, macy's , jc penny's, dress bard and marshels I anm takes right to the ladies dressing rooms and an attendent will normaly stand out side unless i have someone with me. then that stans outside the door for me. I have been treated very well excpt for one incident at fredricks. But it wasn't my fault. The clerk walked away and the door didnt lock right. then some woman walked in as i was fixing my dress and my hair was on the hook. she freaked out. I was mortified. i bearly got me hair back on right and left before someone caught up with me to appolijize. All in all i find that we as transgendered people are becoming more and more accepted as the thought of self exprission is alowwed to grow more and more. sorry to ramble.
kiss kiss
char

CaptLex
04-23-2006, 08:37 AM
All in all i find that we as transgendered people are becoming more and more accepted as the thought of self exprission is alowwed to grow more and more.
I think you're right, Char. I think salespeople are becoming more aware and accepting - at least here in the U.S. Just last week I took a stroll through the men's department at a clothing store near my job and was especially looking at the suits and blazers. When one of the salesmen approached me, I thought he was going to ask me if I was shopping for my boyfriend, husband, etc., but he just smiled and pointed out to me that the shorter jackets (I'm 5'2") were on the other side of the floor. He made my day. :D

Taylor105
06-24-2006, 10:05 PM
Hot Topic rules!!! Anything goes in there. I love the place!! I feel more at home in that store than any other. Taylor