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Geena75
12-04-2022, 11:07 PM
This is a bit of a story.

In 2012 my mom passed after a couple years of progressing dementia. I had a resurgence of the urge to dress around then and explored with some stray items I found. That fall, my wife's father fell ill and, cancelling our annual anniversary trip, she went to TN for two weeks to help out -- hardly heard from her the whole while. In her absence, I dressed more and explored crossdressers on-line. The following spring, her father took a turn for the worse, and she was off again. I joined CD.com, bought shoes and nylons, found a dress, and eventually shaved my legs. I lingered at that level for some time. Fast forward to 2021. Was enjoying the occasional dress up around home. That spring my father died. That summer I ventured out for the first time, and it became a progression up through recently when I removed the beard until further notice (perhaps spring), am shaved from the waist down, and have been going out and about.

It struck me that each time an event happened which caused me sadness/depression, I advanced in cross dressing. Am I doing a sort of virtual therapy on myself? Maybe it is just an escape from the bleak reality of the moment. I'm inclined to think the latter, other than just coincidence. When my life has so many pits of depression to fall into, I find it easier to avoid them via Geena time. Regardless, I am feeling very good about being Geena.

Karren H
12-04-2022, 11:16 PM
You might have something there, Genna! I restarted crossdressing after a long lull period after my father passed away and I was diagnosed with a couple pesky brain tumors. That was over 20 years ago and except for a few short periods of time, it has remained a constantly strong urge.

bridget thronton
12-05-2022, 03:14 AM
Glad you are feeling good about being Geena

Crissy 107
12-05-2022, 06:47 AM
Geena, Interesting theory, I think you may be correct.

Debbie Denier
12-05-2022, 06:50 AM
Your story is a mirror image and very similar to my own Geena. In 2011 I lost my father . Started dressing for the first time regularly in nearly 20 years. It was a form of escapism that made me feel much better. I became careless. Wife found stash. Enforced purge. She was not satisfied by my explanation.Dressed at mothers for next 9 to 10 years. Mother passed away Sept 2020. Joined CD.com bought more clothes. Not as advanced as you are but think I would be if not for wife?s debilitating health and 2 daughters at home.Agree it is escapism but much better than turning to drugs , alcohol etc.

Angela Marie
12-05-2022, 07:07 AM
Interesting posts. I knew I was different from the time I was young; as I tried on my mothers tights (called leggings today). Fast forward after my divorce; which had nothing to do with crossdressing I began dressing fully, using makeup, and venturing out. A few professional makeovers gave me more confidence. My feelings were always buried deep inside and I tried to ignore them. But as you all know that never works. I'm 68 now and cannot transition, mostly due to family issues, i.e. none of my children or close friends know. But I do find solace in my recognition of my female persona.

alwayshave
12-05-2022, 07:24 AM
Geena, I would agree that dressing is therapy. Not a reaction as I have dressed since I was about 4 years old. But if it helps you, does it matter why? A long as you feel good about Geena.

GretchenM
12-05-2022, 07:54 AM
You are correct, Geena. This is a well documented reaction to severe stressors in our lives. There are all sorts of explanations, but the actual cause or causes is unknown. One of the best explanations can be found in the book "Psychobiology of Transexualism and Transgenderism." Death of loved ones, returning from war, as well as personal tragedies such as a severe accident seems to bring this out in various forms of gender variant people. It can last for quite awhile or fade soon, but the need to turn to this part of the identity provides a stabilizing force and helps the person to deal with the life change. So, yes, it is a kind of therapy the brain engages in while it is adapting to a new environmental difficulty that leaves a hole in the fabric that needs to be reconciled. It is one of the pieces of excellent evidence that these kinds of gender shifts are very real.

Kris Burton
12-05-2022, 08:00 AM
Very interesting indeed Geena. Over the years I have been in and out of therapy, fighting depression, anger management, debilitating shyness and deep regret of a repressed childhood and young adulthood. Despite a successful marriage of 40 years I have been haunted by these things, and no therapy seemed to help for very long as I sunk back into the same negativity. Not a very easy guy to deal with - just ask my wife! However, after finally giving in to my impulse at age 69 to crossdress the cloud finally lifted. Even when I am not presenting as Kris I am a much more positive and fulfilled person - in either male or female mode, not looking back with regret but rather forward with youthful anticipation. I feel better psychologically than I have in years, maybe ever. So therapy for me? Absolutely, of the most effective kind!

NancyJ
12-05-2022, 09:27 AM
I would venture that the answer is not as straightforward as it seems. Saying that crossdressing is therapy for emotional hurt implies, on some level, that it helps us address that hurt. Although the escalation of your dressing seemed to be in response to your wife’s absence and your experience of loss, it seems to have been more of an escape from the experience of grieving, maybe even a substitute, than a way to help you wrestle with the emotions involved. I would say that therapy helps us confront and deal with difficult emotion, not cover up feelings. What if you were describing increasing any other activity: working out, running, drinking, working, in response to the experience of loneliness and loss? Would those behaviors be therapy?

There is an expression about therapy: “There are two kinds of therapy, therapy that feels good, and therapy that works.”

Please understand where I am coming from. I (obviously) have nothing against crossdressing. But, no, I do not think it is therapy. What you describe is an escape. I have used it, too! And I have been in therapy. Nancy

Heather76
12-05-2022, 09:48 AM
Your theory makes sense to my uneducated mind. In my simple terms, your male self has to deal with all these events. However, Geena does not "know" these people so she has no sadness in her heart over the loss of them. She is still in her happy place which allows you an escape, if only temporary, from the sadness you otherwise feel. Regardless of the true cause and effects, if the escalation of crossdressing has afforded you the ability to better deal with the losses in your life, don't question it. I would suggest you just keep progressing as it seems to work for you.

NancyJ
12-05-2022, 09:59 AM
Heather, Reread Geena?s post. She describes beginning dressing after losing her mother to dementia. Then, increasing her dressing when her wife leaves to help with an in-law. Nowhere does she say she did not know her in-laws. Of course she knew her own mother, and she was dealing with the prolonged absence, and emotional preoccupation, of her own wife. Just because a behavior “feels good” or helps us not feel emotional pain does not make it therapeutic, for example, overeating.

Fiona_44
12-05-2022, 04:00 PM
Geena,

I can relate somewhat to what you are saying.
All my life I was a closeted lingerie fetish cross dresser. My wife passed away one year ago and six months after she passed I started getting the urge to dress fully and go out in public en femme. I agree with Nancy that CD'ing can definitely be a form of escape. That same point was raised by the bereavement counselor I talk to on a regular basis who knows about Fiona. She cautioned me not to use CD'ing as a way of completely shutting out the grief and emotions from my wife's death. Her thinking is that by doing so you only interfere with the long, necessary, unpleasant process of learning how to deal with the grief. Additionally, by using it as a complete escape, it only becomes harder to deal with the flood of emotions that come roaring back when you return to male mode. So I have learned to deal with whatever emotions arise when I am Fiona and not to shut them out. I even visit my wife's grave dressed en femme which is just another way of insuring that being Fiona is not solely an escape from reality. And after thinking through everything I have come to the wonderful conclusion that being Fiona is just the real me emerging and not just a temporary escape from reality.

docrobbysherry
12-05-2022, 09:14 PM
Of course dressing may be different for all of us. Escape, relief, reality, empowerment, social outlet, hobby, turn on, dual personality, and probably very many more!?:thumbsup:
Personally? Over my 25+ years of dressing I think I've experienced nearly ALL of those feelings!:eek:

And, they r all valid reasons to dress. My shrink said unless my dressing was causing problems for me and others in my life? She didn't care why I dressed, she wanted to move on!:heehee:

Maria 60
12-05-2022, 09:49 PM
You definitely hit some sort of hammer on the nail to say. When I was going through some intense family matters. My wife pointed out to me that I was dressing more and she felt like I was escaping myself and that my fem side didn't have the same problems. I believe this way is better then popping antidepressants or get aggressive and take it on the family. We don't hurt nobody when we dress up, we only help ourselves and that's all that matters. It's great therapy. I'm glad you feel good about Geena in those moments.

Rhonda Jean
12-05-2022, 09:54 PM
Neither for me. An escape as NancyJ describes is probably more accurate, but not simply that, either.

It has been pointed out to me in therapy that my female identity lived an idealic life. No worries, no bills, none of the ordinary stress of life. My male-side concerns of ordinary life just did/do not exist in my female life. Instead of worrying about money, job, kids, parents, etc., all I worried about was how I looked. I was obsessed about being as attractive as a woman as I could possibly be. As long as that was my top concern even in my male life, all the other concerns were diminished. Unrealistic? Yep. To me, that's a positive. I'm not transitioning. Why add the down sides of real life to my female life? Leave those on the male side and let my female side live out the fantasy life in every way possible! When my girl side was happy, I guarantee my boy side was happier because of it!

MarinaTwelve200
12-05-2022, 11:58 PM
It just confirms my assertation that the psychology and reasons for cross-dressing are much more varied and complex with "Straight" crossdressers. ---As opposed to transsexuals and Gays where the reasons are often logical and obvious. (a few exceptions of course)

NancyJ
12-06-2022, 06:02 AM
There is nothing wrong with “escape,” of course, as long as we realize that is what it is and keep it reined in so that it does not hurt anybody else. And for those of us, like me, who experience gender dysphoria, dressing can provide a sense of relief or even a euphoric feeling. My main point is to not confuse these good feelings, or the absence of experiencing hurt feelings, as therapy. Not the same. Nancy

GretchenM
12-06-2022, 08:12 AM
You make some good points NancyJ. It seems to vary to a rather large extent as to what function that identity shift produces with the person who has suffered some kind of crisis. It can be an escape, a temporary refuge, but it doesn't really resolve any major issues except for providing some comfort while the person is dealing with the loss in a rational way. It can be part of the grieving process with a loss of a loved one, but for a person returning from fighting in a war it can be a liberation and a transition to a new life or one that was there before and became interrupted.

Cisgender people do the same thing but instead of seeking comfort in a different aspect of their total identity they dive into a hobby or some other meaningful activity during the long period of grieving or adjusting to a more "normal" life after a major interruption that generates a bit of feeling of not knowing what to do.

Thus this shifting can be therapeutic even though it is not full on therapy. And it can also provide the time to replace a major change with something more integrated and thereby help keep the person out of actual therapy.

Almost a year ago now my wife and I lost our oldest daughter. I was living alone as I had been in our home in Denver while my wife was in Albuquerque caring for our daughter in her illness. My wife stayed there for a few months after the death and visited the many new friends she had made in the city and at nearby Pueblos before she came home. She then came home and we had each other again after 4 1/2 years of rarely seeing each other. It was a little touch and go for a couple of weeks, but we quickly regained our footing and we grieved together. It is still hard to deal with Jennifer being gone, but we are doing quite well.

I shifted my gender expression to a mode that fit my wife's comfort and although I miss the immersion possible when living alone life is good again. But we both feel the tension building as December 20 gets closer. We can handle it now though and that grieving early on in our own ways provided the balance needed to get through those early days of grieving and avoid ending up in couples counseling to avoid divorce which sometime happens. Thus for me, that period of dressing a lot after Jennifer's death was therapeutic but not therapy.

BLUE ORCHID
12-06-2022, 05:59 PM
Hi Geena :hugs:, This the best Theropy Money can Buy, ?Orchid**O:daydreaming:O**

NancyJ
12-06-2022, 07:11 PM
Gretchen, You have experienced a tremendous loss. No parent wants a child of theirs to proceed them in death. Thank you so much for sharing that most personal story.

From what I have read in your previous postings in other threads, I think you are likely (like me) in the category of nontransitioning mtf transgender. It makes sense that you found solace in being able to dress as your preferred gender. When your wife is in the house you defer, out of respect, to her. I get that. I do the same thing. You seem like a very special gal who loves her wife. Nancy

AmyJordan
12-07-2022, 02:43 AM
Hi Genna I'm so sorry for your losses I lost my sister very recently so understand it is a hugely stressful and upsetting time. I have found in the lifestyle we have and adopting a more submissive role that I am a far calmer and happier person and able to deal with things far easier. It is well documented that dressing relieves the stress levels in certain men so if it does for you carry on anything that helps get you through such difficult times is good

April Rose
12-07-2022, 12:48 PM
Dressing, or even thinking about dressing, has gotten me through some hard times and distressing situations. That's why I have long since stopped thinking of it as a pathology.

Admittedly, there are times when it has caused me stress, frustration and embarrassment. But I think that is a result of the social environment I was raised in. In more specific cases it has given me the strength and patience to carry on.

JennyMay
12-07-2022, 03:20 PM
I remember one occasion when some things happened which left me not just stressed out but utterly destroyed. I lay in bed just totally unable to sleep. Eventually got out of bed and put on a skirt. It really helped. So yes, it can be therapeutic. So glad my wife is fullly aware and fully accepting.

tall sam
12-07-2022, 04:46 PM
Therapy or reaction -- or as some have mentioned escape. Is it not all a bit of these??? I used to dress for the sexual feeling then found it helps me escape and its now a way I can get a way from the stress of the day - its just gives me that few hours where my mind is pre-occupied by being a lady. When I am alone and following my divorce and many times before that when I felt alone I would become Samantha, the woman I like to be with. She makes me feel good, is sexy and fun, is not me and dosnt have my problems. So, its my escape and its a therapy. Happy days

GinaM
12-07-2022, 04:49 PM
Whenever I'm really stressed the desire to dress increases. I was explaining this to my fianc? and I told her that when I'm really stressed out and I get a night to be alone and dress it completely relaxes me. She said she really loves that I'm aware of that and encourages me to decompress. No idea why it does but I've accepted it and I'm aware of it.

jacques
12-08-2022, 11:41 AM
hello Geena,
When I have been feeling down dressing up always hits the spot!
luv J

Stephanie47
12-09-2022, 12:14 PM
Unlike many on this site I did not dress at a single digit age. I was all boy. I had no use for girls. I think that was typical of the guys in my neighborhood. Puberty came along and I was drawn to women's clothing. There wasn't any stressing situations that I can remember. I suspect it was just a hormonal change with a predisposition to explore. I really do not know. My PTSD counselor tossed out the idea that each man or woman has some genes in his or her dna chain of the opposite sex. In some it is more than in others. It makes sense, although I may be predisposed to accept it.

At some point I outgrew my mother's clothing and really stopped having thoughts that should have drawn me to seek out clothing. I went through college and two years in the military with zero interest. When I got married there was a rekindling of my love for nylon which resulted in some "bedroom play." There was a sexual component to it, but none of "I was born in the wrong body."

Later, stressors did arise in employment along with deeply hidden turmoil of military combat and deaths. I found relief in starting to acquire and transform myself for a day into Stephanie and escape into doing domestic chores a la June Cleaver. I think that genetic component my PTSD counselor talked about started to have a greater influence on me. Of course, I'll never know how this all works. If I were to be confronted by someone who is not accepting I'd have to ask them to explain "Why would a man engaged in behavior that has consequences so injurious to his well being? The risk of losing family and friends, divorce, loss of employment, loss of standing in church or community. To say it is a conscious choice does not fly with me.

Diane P
12-09-2022, 10:26 PM
I don't know whether I'd explain my cross dressing as therapy or reaction or something entirely different. Growing up I think I might have played with putting my Mom's shoes on, that would have been before I was old enough to go to school. Also, I don't remember it but, there are pictures of me dressed for Halloween in a half boy-half girl outfit my mother made for me. I don't remember anything else until about mid-twenties thinking about possibly dressing as a woman, but never acted on it.

Fast forward to about 17 years ago when, for no real reason I can think of at the time, I decided to buy some women's thongs. Would some times decide to throw them out only to buy more a couple months later. Wore those off and on for years, throwing the last bunch away just before my wife died in early July.

In Sep decided to go buy some more thongs. On the way to Walmart I had the thought "I wonder what I eould look like in a dress" pop into my head. Decided to go with it. Here I am now just three months later, after giving all the sife's clothes to Goodwill, with my bedroom closet so completely full of womwn's wear that my male clothing, which only took up about 1/4 of the closet, now relagated to another bedroom. I love all the women's wear I have bought myself and once in a while sort of wish I had followed the thought in my mid-twenties of dressing as a woman.

So feel free to try and figure me out, because I can't. All I can say is that I have never felt happier and more relaxed then when I put on a dress, shorts & a top, or nightgown to sleep in. I also wear bikini panties all the time, which feels right, normal and natural, as does weraing any of my women's clothes.

rhoda
12-10-2022, 09:29 AM
I often feel the same. I have suffered a lot of trauma in my life, both accidental and deliberately caused. When I am dressed somehow I am not the person that happened to and everything is easier.

Brianne_bc
12-11-2022, 09:27 PM
For me dressing has always been an autistic stim. And the feeling that im getting away with something is very stimulating too. Like going to work with a bran panties stockings and suspender belt is totally a stim.

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Therapy or reaction -- or as some have mentioned escape. Is it not all a bit of these??? I used to dress for the sexual feeling then found it helps me escape and its now a way I can get a way from the stress of the day - its just gives me that few hours where my mind is pre-occupied by being a lady. When I am alone and following my divorce and many times before that when I felt alone I would become Samantha, the woman I like to be with. She makes me feel good, is sexy and fun, is not me and dosnt have my problems. So, its my escape and its a therapy. Happy days

I used to dress for the sexual feeling too. then feel like crap and ashamed and couldnt wait to get undressed

CynthiaD
12-12-2022, 09:33 AM
I react the same way to tragedy. When things go wrong, my need to dress en femme goes through the roof. But it's not escapism. Despite any indications to the contrary, I'm female. Pretending to be male is fun sometimes, but not all the time. When I'm hurting from some tragedy that has struck me or my family, I just don't have time for this "fake male" nonsense. I need to wear my normal (female) clothing, and be my normal (female) self.

sometimes_miss
12-13-2022, 03:56 PM
My own thoughts on this, is that our minds repress the desire to crossdress, until, due to other outside stressors, we aren't able to keep those thoughts bottled up in our subconscious anymore, and they return to our conscious minds, and again, due to our minds dealing with other problems, we aren't able to repress them anymore, so the need to crossdress and appease the desire to be female by that, becomes what we feel the need to do. When we are able to resolve the other outside stress causing problems, then our minds can once again repress all the female thoughts and desires, and once again be able to keep it bottled up in our subconscious.

Joanne108
12-13-2022, 04:49 PM
For me I guess it?s both therapeutic and recreational! I just love dressing as a woman!

SaraLin
12-14-2022, 08:06 AM
My own thoughts on this, is that our minds repress the desire to crossdress, until, due to other outside stressors, we aren't able to keep those thoughts bottled <snip>

Lexi, I'd have to say that for me, it's pretty much the opposite from this. When there is something going in my life that's tragic, dramatic, or just plain stressful - well that's the time when I set my personal "issues" aside. I'm too busy dealing with whatever is going on "out there" to worry about my own problems.
When things settle back down a bit, I can get back to my regularly-scheduled life. Of course, there might be a bit of making up for lost time... :gorgeous:


So - I guess I can't say it's a reaction.

So is it therapy? Well - in a way, I guess. If I couldn't give myself that bit of self expression, I'm afraid I'd have some real problems - depression, if nothing else.

Ursula Harrison
12-26-2022, 12:48 PM
I've always been a TV regardless of how things are in my life at any particular time. So bad experiences neither trigger nor inhibit dressing. But, as Nancy says, it has always been a wonderful escape from the stresses and strains of everyday life.