Is underdressing full time still Crossdressing?

[Brianne_bc]

So? Is underdressing full time still Crossdressing? I am fortunate enough to be able to wear full lingerie under jeans and shirts on a daily basis. Oh dont get me wrong, I still love highheels and satin slippery dresses at home but to be able to dress in lingerie every day like a GG is pretty awesome. What are your thoughts?

[NancySue]

To answer your question, I believe, Yes. Like you, I, too, underdress daily. sometimes more, but always panties, usually thigh highs and a bra, and a flit of my favorite perfume. Yes, What an awesome way to begin each day.

[Crissy 107]

Yes definitely it is crossdressing

[kimdl93]

Of course it is.

[BLUE ORCHID]

Hi Brianne :hugs:, Page #1 in the Crossdressers Handbook says the only Rule is there are No Rules, >Orchid**O:daydreaming:O**

[Gillian Gigs]

I say yes, I have been an underdresser for over 25 years. In cooler weather pantyhose under jeans is a nice feeling. Cami's feel better under a shirt also. Yet, a skirt, hosiery and the right shoes are best of all.

[Debbie Denier]

I agree yes. I get my fix by underdressing in panties and tights when opportunities are restricted. It keeps me going . But there is nothing better than fully dressing.

[ScientiaMetallum]

It probably is, but does it matter?

Personally, I've been wearing panties (almost) every day for a decade or so, now, and I don't care much whether it qualifies as "crossdressing" or not.
It partially sates my desire to be more feminine, that's all that matters.

[betty_colo]

I'm usually wearing panties, pantyhose and a bra when I'm out even in boy mode.

[Jessica Secret]

It is to me, I wear panties almost all the time now.

[docrobbysherry]

For me it's not. But, for u it very well could be!:thumbsup:

[Heather76]

For me it is. The only underwear I have is my collection of lace panties so I am cross dressed 24/7. I also wear a bra, or bralette, and forms likely 60% - 70% of the time. I am rarely cross dressed 100%.

[Pantyhose Queen]

I do, always panties and pantyhose. Sometimes a bra also.

[Bianca Fay]

Interesting thread...

In my opinion I think that underdressing in women's clothing definitely constitutes CDing. If you're wearing an article of clothing that you're trying to hide (because it is a female garment) then it stands to reason that the general population would make that logical conclusion should you be discovered.

Case in point: my girlfriend once suggested that I borrow my tenant's nail polish so I could repair a run in my pantyhose. I said "She'd think I'm crazy" to which my GF replied "No, she'd think you're a crossdresser".

[mbmeen12]

Yes I would consider it some degree. On a scale of 1-10 and 10 being fully dressed. Very scientific and brilliant lol and following the science.

[Bobbi46]

Most definately and such a lovely way of life too, I had a hospital appointment yesterday for scans and dressed for that as I do every day

[NancyJ]

To me, wearing panties confirms my femininity. I have worn panties every day for more than 30 years. I feel anxious if not wearing panties. Nancy

[Kelli_cd]

A male wearing clothing designed for women - isn't that the classic definition of crossdressing? Why, I believe it is!

[Angela Marie]

Yes definitely. Sitting in a restaurant now having breakfast wearing black lululemon leggings.

[MindyCD]

Yes I would definitely agree with most posters that underdressing is crossdressing.

This morning was the coldest by far this year so today along with my vest/ camisole and panties I normally wear under my work uniform I added tights as an extra layer for heat and a pair of thick boot socks. Keeps me nice and toasty all day.

[GretchenM]

I think in nearly all who underdress do that because it allows for a relatively safe way to affirm an inner "feeling" of being female-like to a degree that those feelings need to be expressed in a way that connects your identity totally or partially with the outside world. There may be some who underdress for other reasons, but I think that is probably rare. So the answer comes down to what effect wearing women's underwear has on you and what is the motivation for doing that.

Underwear is the most intimate part of all the clothes we wear. So, I suspect a woman who wears men's underwear is doing so because it is the most intimate part of what men wear and so it affirms her sense that she is in some ways male. I often find it useful to turn the table around when these kinds of questions arise.

Males gravitate toward women's underwear because it affirms the female-like part of a man's identity and aligns with that being strong. Turn the table around, in recognition that the data shows that close to the same number of women have a strong male-like portion of their identity as is the case with some men having a strong female-like identity mixed with the male-like identity. It affirms a fundamental part of the person's identity whether male or female because it is intimate wear which can trigger some kind of an association with the opposite sex. So if wearing panties makes a person uncomfortable that shows that they don't have much in the way of a part of their total identity being female-like - wearing panties creates dysphoria or discomfort just like when we put on men's underwear we experience some degree of discomfort which is some degree of dysphoria because we tend to have a more pronounced amount gender oriented neural networks that generate some degree of a female-like sense of self. When something matches it feels good; when it clashes it feels strange and sometimes can even produce emotional pain. I suspect that women who have a strong male-like part of their identity and usually wear men's underwear get uncomfortable if they put on customary women's underwear.

[Bea_]

Definite yes for me.

[Aunt Kelly]

This is me, refusing to engage in another pointless debate about what this or that label means. :)

[Stephanie47]

By definition, it is. After I retired and my wife was still working I had plenty of opportunities to be en femme six plus hours a day to emulate June Cleaver. After I found this forum and read of under dressing I thought I would give it a try. Previously, I had worn a panty to work, but found that did not work out well when using the bathroom. But, being retired, what the heck. Under my sweat shirt and jeans I wore a bra, camisole, panty and hosiery. I did try thigh highs, but there was always some slippage. So, it was pantyhose. I just had to limit my morning coffee intake so I would not have to use a restroom. I found under dressing lost its lure because after a while I did not notice any rush. They became normal clothes. I found it was somewhat strange, if you wear women's clothing a lot, you become so accustom to it, it is no longer a rush. I think at some level the entire "thing" becomes normal. It's just a case of what you grab off the rack in the closet for the day; dress and heels or jeans and work boots. If that makes any sense.

[Patience]

If we look at the definition of the adverb under:

Under can be used to mean beneath, as in underground and underwire.

But it can also mean insufficient, as in understaffed or underestimated.

So being underdressed is crossdressing, but by definition insufficiently so compared to going all out. No way around it.

[Cheryl T]

Crossdressing is simply wearing clothes typical of the opposite sex.
Whether you are out or stealth about it and how much or how little doesn't matter.

[PaulaJeanette]

One of the reasons we enjoy crossdressing is the sense of pleasure and satisfaction. However, for each of us, there are variances and degrees to these sensations as we are all different. Just do and enjoy!

[WandaRae2009]

Absolutely. It has been a long time since I wore male underwear. So I consider I am partially cross-dressed every day.

[OrdinaryAverageGuy]

If you want to consider yourself a crossdresser then absolutely! If, however, you don't like the label and want an excuse to deny the label, you can say "I'm not a crossdresser, I only underdress," and some people might buy it.

The real question is how would you like your question answered?

[Taylor186]

"Is underdressing full time still Crossdressing?"

If you are a male underdressing in male tighty-whities, then no you are not crossdressing. If you are a male underdressing in female undergarments, then yes.

[alwayshave]

Brianne, Of course it is. It's the only dressing I can do most days.

[Patience]

333612

Not naked or in underwear.

Thank you.

[Sandi Beech]

It must be crossdressing since my wife had a fit when I tried wearing women?s boy shorts in front of her.

Sandi

[Maid_Marion]

When I had that talk setting boundaries my wife suggested that it was OK for me to wear panties.

[Bianca Fay]

This thread has really got me thinking. Although I've already responded earlier a new thought has popped into my head...

All of us on this forum have differing ideas of whether or not underdressing can be classified as CDing. Maybe we need to be more objective and view it from the lens of society, or more significantly, our SOs. I believe that in their eyes wearing ANY article of women's clothing on a regular basis is the exact definition of crossdressing.

When my ex caught me wearing her pantyhose the very first thing she asked was "Do you want to be a woman?". I said no and her next question was "then why do you dress like a girl?". To add context to this conversation, she knew that my dressing was limited to pantyhose only. Nothing else. Yet she still considered it crossdressing and would often call me a drag queen. Regardless of how much I argued that it was only pantyhose, she maintained her stance that I was underdressing in women's nylons and therefore I was a crossdressing drag queen.

So... was her opinion wrong? I can't help but think that the majority of people would agree with her. Why on earth would a guy want to wear women's underwear unless he is truly and fully a crossdresser?

[NancyJ]

When my ex caught me wearing her pantyhose the very first thing she asked was "Do you want to be a woman?". I said no and her next question was "then why do you dress like a girl?". To add context to this conversation, she knew that my dressing was limited to pantyhose only. Nothing else. Yet she still considered it crossdressing and would often call me a drag queen. Regardless of how much I argued that it was only pantyhose, she maintained her stance that I was underdressing in women's nylons and therefore I was a crossdressing drag queen.

So... was her opinion wrong? I can't help but think that the majority of people would agree with her. Why on earth would a guy want to wear women's underwear unless he is truly and fully a crossdresser?

Bianca, My reaction is this: Do we allow ourselves to be defined by ignorant and hostile transphobes (like your ex), or do we define ourselves. Of course you were not behaving like a drag queen. Each individual should define themselves, not accept the hostile judgement of another. Nancy

[secretpanties]

I have been underdressing, wearing panties exclusively for more than 6 months. I think my wife either has no clue, or has found out and prefers not to bring it up and adopt a DADT policy, which is something she had proposed before when she caught me wearing her panties. After buying my own, the first few nights I remember not being able to sleep, either from the fear of being caught or the excitement. Now after a few months, I don't even notice them and it feels completely normal to me, which is a nice feeling.

For me, I wouldn't consider myself a crossdresser because I have never fully dressed. It's not something I really am attracted to doing. I believe most of my attraction to wearing silky panties and laying next to my wife is an association with being desired and having a closeness in wearing the same things and materials with her. At this point if things between her and I improved, I can't really see it being something that would leave the intimacy of our bedroom or her knowing what is under my clothes. I see it as something I would gladly just share between her and myself.

[docrobbysherry]

I'm sorry to have to tell u this, SP. But, believe it or not, these days most people lump fetish dressers in with CD's and even trans!:eek:

[Glenda58]

Yes, it's crossdressing but it's only a start next will be women's jeans and slacks then a t-shirt or sweatshirt then it's not underdressing.

[Billy88]

Of course underdressing is crossdressing. It’s mostly how I go out in public with my panties and my bra under my guy clothes.

[Melindatv61]

Yes it is , I underdressed daily to keep me in touch with my femme side and helps concentration. Bra , panties and tights dependant on the weather which type. I don't feel comfortable without those items on daily.

[darla_g]

why would any of US be the ones to make the determination whether it is or isn't ? its up to you

personally it does nothing for me, its either all out or nothing, but occasionally i do put on a dress or article of clothing to determine whether i still want it or not.

[Diane P]

For me wearing bikini panties is crossdressing. Right now I'm definitely crossdressed, panties, bra (that fits me without forms), women's jeans, black off the shoulder top and heels. Most days it is just the bikini panties, but having just recently bought a bra thast fits me (no forms), I'll probably start wearing the bra and panties every day. I'll still fully dress when I can but at least being underdressed helps me feel like myself.