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Geena75
07-14-2024, 08:38 PM
I came across a 1972 film "Triple Echo" where a deserter hiding out in England and to hide him from the provost a lady dresses him as her 'sister.' Interesting angle is that it's a drama! Talk about passing, though -- amazing!

I get home and there are old cartoons on TV. First I see a Popeye cartoon where Brutus disguises himself as a woman to get into a fitness gym on 'Ladies Day.' Then a Warner Bros. cartoon where a young male character is dressed as a female witch for Halloween. Then a Baby Huey cartoon where the fox dresses in drag in hopes of making a meal of the young geese.

Is this the standard plot devise?

Sometimes Steffi
07-14-2024, 08:58 PM
In cartoons, yes. It's always made me wonder if some cartoonists aren't girls like us. BTW, don't forget Buggs Bunny.

Also, in Elizabethan times, women weren't allowed to be actors, so all female parts were played by men. Sometimes the "women" needed to be disguised as a man. So you had a man playing a woman playing a man. You can almost visualize how the woman disguised as a man lets some feminine tendencies out.

I like the movie "Shakespeare in Love." In that movie, a woman dresses like a man to join an acting troop. She gets the part of a woman (Juliet, if I recall correctly), so she is a woman pretending to be a man pretending to be a woman.

Suzie Petersen
07-14-2024, 09:35 PM
I don't think I could do that! I am not very good at pretending to be a man ... 🙃

Sometimes Steffi
07-15-2024, 12:36 AM
Gwyneth Paltrow disguised as a boy

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Helen_Highwater
07-15-2024, 05:21 AM
Also, in Elizabethan times, women weren't allowed to be actors, so all female parts were played by men.

If you can find it online, "Upstart Crow" does a great job of highlighting the absurdity of those times.

Cheryl T
07-15-2024, 10:38 AM
Of course it is.
Remember M*A*S*H and corporal Klinger, or Busom Buddies with Tom Hanks and Some Like It Hot with Tony Curtiss and Jack Lemmon.

Marketa
07-15-2024, 11:00 AM
And let's not forget two absolute legends:
Mrs. Doubtfire
Tootsie

I've never realised that but you are right. In TV and theatre CD in one form or another is as common as a fly in summer.

Stephanie47
07-15-2024, 11:28 AM
I think in the years/decades gone bye men wearing women's clothing fell into comedy, even if it was not a belly-laugh comedy. I found Tootsie and Mrs. Doubtfire to have a comedy aspect to it because the vast majority of viewers would believe the plot to be outside the norm and thus humorous. In both movies a male is trying to deceive with a motive other than displaying some desire to be a woman or emulate the sexuality or orientation of a woman. In real life I think the general public would not be accepting. When one is an outsider looking in the reaction is totally different than real life. Some early morning rambling here.

kimdl93
07-15-2024, 05:33 PM
Pretty standard stuff. Bugs Bunny (See Its Opera Doc). Milton Berle. Some Like It Hot. And if you follow Femulate, Stana often features bits on theatrical cross dressing from a century or mor ages.

alwayshave
07-15-2024, 07:32 PM
Kim, you're forgetting Flip Wilson as Geraldine.

Geena75
07-15-2024, 08:00 PM
For that matter, Dana Carvey as the Church Lady, Will Ferrel as Janet Reno, Dan Ackroyd as Julia Child .....

What struck me about "Triple Echo" was that is was a drama, and how convincing the MtF transformation was. And yes, that's Oliver Reed as the Sgt.

Sometimes Steffi
07-15-2024, 08:03 PM
Also, Victor/Victoria is a double switch. A woman pretending to be a (gay) man pretending t be a woman (drag queen).

Celine 9
07-15-2024, 08:40 PM
I remember the King of the Hill episode called "The Powder Puff Boys" where Bobby dresses up as cheerleader as part of a high school. I do recall a batman episode where Malachi Thorne who plays false face dressed as a woman. Also, I saw a Batman episode where Tallulah Bankhead (who played black widow) dresses up as robin. The same holds true for Jill St. John (who played Molly) for dressing up as robin. These were the only 2 episodes that featured female to male crossdressing. All three batman episodes were all from the 1966 batman TV show.

Davinnia
07-19-2024, 06:50 PM
Just Like A Woman with Julie Walters & Adrian Pasdar is available on Youtube. It has a subplot but is basically about a male lodger who appears to have a female visitor but is actually a CDer & the landlady, Walters, accepts him/her. A genuine CD movie, not a masterpiece but worth a watch.