CD's what's "cheating" in dressing? When's it too little or too much?

[docrobbysherry]

What r your personal limits? Full, heavy makeup? Forms? Wig? Corset? Hip/butt pads? Body suit? Mask?:battingeyelashes:

What do u think is either over the top or embarrassingly too little when it comes to other's dressing?:doh:

How far would u go or how little would u wear if u were free to present any way u wanted to with no one judging?:thumbsup:

I'm pretty much everything! Except makeup. On me it's lipstick on a pig!:thumbsdn:

[Helen_Highwater]

Interesting.

So let's break it down into three parts. Limits; if around the house then hose, skirt bra and forms, top and depending upon how much he alone time I have, wig, jewelery and padding. If I'm out and about then all the above a what I hope is enough makeup to help disguise my male features.

I'm reticent to critique others, each to their own, but when out dressed of an evening in LGBTQ friendly venues I've seen others wearing dresses that would look great on a shapely GG but on them it's mutton dressed as lamb. But that's also true of some GG's. What looks good on the model in the catalogue doesn't always translate to looking good on others. Knowing what suits you as opposed to what you'd like to suit you and can carry off is a skill not everyone has. On a peersonal note, I'd hope that those who i went out with regularly would, "tip me the wink" and let me know i was making a fashion faux pas.

And lastly, if n-one cared then I'd be happy to dress casually, things suited to supermarket shopping. Probably still have forms and padding, wig and a touch of makeup (a wipe of foundation +lippy, possibly eyeliner) plus accessories. Flat boots or kitten heels. Still go the whole nine yards if on a night out of course.

[Sabine7]

I am a closet crossdresser and there are of course some limitations due to this. I can have neither my toes and fingers varnished nor eye lashes attached even of this is my desire all the time.
I used to dress fully to become a "real" woman from (high) heels to the top. There are always obligatory high heel shoes, nylons, garter belt or corset, bra filled with forms, dress and wig.
I like to have a lot of rings on my fingers, bracelets on my wrists and ankle, long clips hanging from my ears. The last but not least come makeup and lipstick.

[Kris Burton]

Unless I'm just trying on something new or experimenting with outfit combinations, for me it's all or nothing - wig, forms, padding , makeup - whole bit. If I'm out and about I must make sure I'm giving myself every advantage!

[Sabine7]

I like the feeling of being a "real" woman when all my senses are saying you are! Fortunately, it is then hard to believe it is not true. I like to be frightened and ashamed when this feminization thing has gone much, much too far. First, I may feel confused but next it starts to be wonderful.

[kimdl93]

I am pretty much all or nothing. Because of who I am, where and how I live, my effort is to blend in with the other women in this community. On most occasions casual, classy or as classy as I can get, and as far as makeup, it?s there to compensate for my imperfections, which are many.

Over the top and embarrassing would I suppose be in the eye of the beholder and in the situation. I just dont inhabit a place nor find myself in situations where such I encounter either. That being said, there are times when I see someone and think they have made a regrettable choice. The initial reaction of my inner voice will usually be, ?oh dear.? Not so much in a judgmental sense as in feeling a bit of empathy for the person.

The last question doesn?t really apply for me in my present life. If I was younger, I would probably dress a bit more extravagantly if I was going out to a club. Beyond that, the goal would remain the same? to blend in to the extent possible and to present well.

[Kayy]

For me it varies a lot, sometimes it’s the whole hog, forms, jewellery, make up and sometimes it’s just a skirt and tights. I do have male shirts but also a lot of tops that are unisex, and I don’t mind mixing male/female clothes, after all it still me, and I only dress indoors. I don’t wear a wig very often as I don’t like the feel of it. My wife’s ok so the only limits are my own. So if no one were judging, I think I’d be the same. But hey, each to her own!

[Stephanie47]

I am primary an in-home cross dresser who has ventured out into the world on occasion: evening drives and strolls. When I was a lot younger (four decades) I had to do the entire "thing" which was full makeup to include false eyelashes, eye makeup, press on nails, if my fingernails were not sufficiently long enough. Scratch hip and butt pads because I did not know if those even existed in the 1980's. I still forsake hip and butt pads because I think they would be uncomfortable. I am a "dresses only" gal, nothing remotely suggesting male attire/pants. I do the breast enhancement and choose dresses that are not form fitting to the body, i.e., empire waists, sheaths and wraps. My facial hair is not dark. When I shave I do not have beard shine, so the effect does last the entire day. When dressing at home, I may apply lipstick because it does have a slight odor that I can smell, and it leaves markings on my coffee cup. There are no mirrors in the kitchen/dining area or living room. I stay away from close-ups to any mirror because my male features and sun damaged skin are not at all feminine.

As a "dresses only" gal, I primarily wear a dress that is +/- a inch above the knee to ankle length, if a sun dress. I definitely wear a nylon panty and nylon full slip or ankle length full slip along with a bra and hosiery. On occasion, in the past, I was chastised on this site for being a "dresses only" gal, but that was the environment I was raised in during the 1950's and 1960's.

Others? I try to not be judgmental when it comes to style but I do believe "the minds eye see what it wants to see" and some outfits just do not compliment a person. Even my wife will comment that a weather girl on television is wearing a dress that is way to tight that it stretches the fabric in ways the designer never envisioned. Personal taste suggests, if one is wearing a too short dress, it should be worn with hosiery that has some color to make the visual flows with one color scheme.

[CynthiaD]

As for other people, I seldom judge, but I recall one video I watched featuring a guy dressed in blue Jean shorts and a white tee shirt no breast forms, screaming that he was female and insisting that others refer to him with female pronouns. His only concession to femininity was long purple hair. I think if you want to be female, you should at least make some effort to look female.

For myself, a wig and some lipstick is enough, but I almost never stop there. I have no male underwear and always wear panties, and usually a bra. I prefer large breast forms, DD or DDD, but for certain outfits I go without any forms, relying on my natural B cup to give my chest the appropriate curves. I prefer skirts and dresses, but sometimes wear jeans. My jeans have lots of bling or embroidery or both. And I almost always wear pantyhose, even in male mode, even with shorts. (The skin on my legs is disgustingly bad.) I seldom wear makeup, even though it does a lot for my appearance. Putting it on is a chore, and taking it off is even worse.

If I were free from judgement, I would wear a black skirt with a white satin top, a conservative dress, or a skirt suit.

[Marketa]

I like elegance and natural beauty, so nothing extraordinary. Thus my no-go are definitely full-body suits. Then breast plates, since I found the "bandeau" breast-plate, because it holds great and everything above and below it is your very own skin, so you don't have to hide neck lines or shoulder lines. Only negative is you can't wear deeper cleavages.

Also I don't want to be MIAD, it's not my style.

Then high heels above 10cm/4in. They're too tall for me. Luckily I found out 10cm is the limit by buying 10cm high heels, so no wasted money here.

Otherwise everything that helps to create an illusion I am a woman is totally fine for me (with budget in mind). Short dress, clothing in general, hip pads, forms, wig, make-up, shoes...when it's style I like and can afford it, then I'd go for it.

[Sandi Beech]

Haha, if there were such a thing as an over the top meter, I probably would have shot if off the scale.

Considering that I have danced topless in about 10 clubs and wear ridiculously short skirts, It is pretty safe to say there is no limit to what I am willing to wear or not wear. Probably the craziest thing I ever did was at a bar in Nashville when I was wearing nothing but a sheer nude body stocking, black thong , heels, wig and makeup and of course my xtra large Aphrodite forms. I cannot figure out why I go so over the top. That particular case was weird because I was sitting at the bar with mostly guys around me , and we were all just talking shop like it was perfectly normal. The bartender did give me a hug when I was leaving and I said thanks for putting up with wacky me. I do not really understand myself at times. Cheap thrills maybe. Who knows. But limits, none that I can think of.

Sandi

[Raychel]

For me it is basically what you have seen in my avatar's
I fully dress with forms and all the female undergarments.
But no makeup or wig for me. That is how I would feel best
dressed, and this is how I dress all the time when I am home.

So that is how I would dress if there was no judging. We have a long way
to go before we get there...............

[Philippa Jane]

In the spirit of joining in the conversation I shall add my preferences.
I am no longer considered a CD I guess and, I don't have the constraints of a SO. I think I am ok to comment.
If I am going to see a professional person or going out with friends I always will dress very feminine.
A wig and makeup even if it is just to go to the local shops. Sometimes looking around I don't blend in as Aussies do super casual.

The biggest exception is when I go to the gym. For this I wear a full leotard (Lorna Jane) with only a little eyeliner and mascara. I used to cover my top with a loose fem tee but now I have discarded that and let the bra straps show. Nobody cares that I look like a feminine guy. No wig because everyone that I know there from old has only ever seen me without one, plus it would be just too hot.
Around the house I will be as casual as anyone else in shorts and loose tee-shirt. Nobody comes to visit so there is no one to see the real me.

[OrdinaryAverageGuy]

My personal limits are basicly no makeup (I'll paint my toenails sometimes, that's it) or wig (no wig needed), and no tucking out of the irrational fear that they'll get stuck and I'll never see them again.

Opinions on how others dress? Eh, whatever, that's up to you. There's no too much or too little in my eyes.

If I could dress without anyone judging? That would vary by mood and weather. The mini skirts and Daisy Dukes would get a workout, as would the camis. Leggings in cooler weather. Bras and fishnet stockings sometimes, bras with forms for those tops and dresses that just look better with boobs. And comfortable pretty sandals most of the year.

[SophiaRose]

I prefer to go all the way with pads, forms, wig and makeup. I really want what's in the mirror to look like how I feel inside. From a style perspective, I'd rather dress more conservatively with lower heels and midi dresses and knee length skirts. Tights and hose only if it fits the style. If I can't go to the grocery store without standing out considerably then I feel like I've gone too far. At home it's often leggings and a casual scoop neck shirt.

[chrissy111]

Over the years I have been dressed in almost everything a girl could possibly wear, and some most girls wouldn't wear. As far as how others dress, I don't have any problems with self expression on anybody.

[NatalieMN]

I won't do a body suit or mask as I still want Natalie to be "me". I generally don't need padding as I am blessed with a curvy butt (at least enough of one) though I am trying out some hip pads. Not really sure I will stick with them as I tend to wear skirts and dresses and I don't think they will do as much unless I am in pants. We will see when I get them. I also don't need a wig which is nice. I wouldn't mind a corset so that certainly isn't a limit. Just something I haven't done yet.

I don't really do things halfway right now either. So, if I am Natalie, it is full makeup. I have started thinking about long-term and whether I want to present more androgynous in general. Specifically, I have thought about my driver's license. Since Minnesota allows for people to self-identify and they is a non-binary marker, I have started thinking about maybe getting my license photo taken with a little makeup to sort of blur the lines and make me feel better when I have to present my ID as Natalie.

As for actual limits, I think it comes down to clothing that just isn't right. I am not going out in a Maid's Outfit or a mini-skirt. The former is too fetishistic and the latter just isn't my style or is a little too juvenile for me. I also won't do large breast forms. I like smaller breasts and I tend to want to keep mine fairly small as well. I won't go above a C cup and I really want to lose weight so a B cup is better proportionally.

I don't really judge others on their dressing for the most part. Though, I have seen some people who did very little to present female while wearing traditional female clothes. In general that is fine (you don't have to be female to rock a skirt or dress for example) but one example in particular was a person who wore a short skirt and tube top and a thong which was pulled up above the skirt so as to be visible. I know I shouldn't but that particular display seems a little classless at best. Maybe I am just too old-fashioned in that regard.

In regards to what I would wear if there was no judging, I don't think anything really changes from now. I would wear what I do now. Maybe leggings at the gym once in a while? I do feel a certain freedom already to wear what I want (at least as Natalie, which is fine for me) so I can't think of anything I would do more.

[AllieBellema]

I really don't limit much, other than makeup (since I still have never put any on). When I dress up at home, I put the full undergarments on and everything so I can get the full feel of being a woman. Never really thought about makeup since I really don't go out in public much. If I ever do a public appearance, I just make sure I'm freshly shaved.

[2B Natasha]

My personal limits are that I try not to look not put together. I want everything to flow nicely together. I do employee forms, pads touch of make-up and the proper undergarments to get me to look the way I want. No wig's any more. If it was more affordable, I would love to go out in a full latex doll suit. But it's not going to happen.

To each their own. You do you Boo. When I see someone in clothing or attire that is out of place for the time or event I assume mostly that they want to be seen or they are trying to stand out for a reason. Validation, support, protest, Shock, I don't know

Not sure I could go further. I don't do over the top fetish out, to cold! I've done micro mini's to maxi skirt's, Bikini's on the beach and at the spa. That said. Would I do the Fulton street fair in a pink leather body harness with all the bits on display? Sure would. Right outfit, right time. But I'm not going to the theatre in it or out to dinner.

[Georgina]

I don't think there is any cheating in crossdressing, but you may sometimes cheat on yourself.

[BLUE ORCHID]

For me it's All or Nothing,

Makeuo, Less is More

[Pauline Quirky]

I have a regular mode and a party mode. Regular mode is just some simple clothes, forms, shoes and a wig. Ideal if I'm short on time and busy with work etc.

Party mode I go all out. Takes 2 hours but it's worth it 😍 I dress half my age with sexy clothes, hip pads, knee high boots and my favorite blonde wig. I wouldn't go out like that though. If I ever take Pauline out in public I would wear clothes appropriate for the occasion. I'd keep the boots, blonde wig and E cup forms though 😉

[Maria 60]

I'm mostly in the closet so most of the time it's all or nothing less the make-up. It's funny how I have to present as feminine as possible and I never leave the house to have to be seen that way. I'm not a fan of the half and half but it's just not worth the time to do my make-up and removing it and not leave the house. I can't imagine putting on a dress without my wig and jewelry.

[JesseVF]

My preference if out is some makeup, wig, forms, and padding. No opportunities these days but when I was out more last year was definitely trending to more casual looks like leggings.

Regarding others dressing I?m usually admiring them for their outfit and their confidence to be out as they want. While a particular style may not be for me I try not to judge as I would like others to not judge me.

In my dreams I love snug form fitting dresses on a curvy young body, but unfortunately that look stays indoors.

[docrobbysherry]

Why r u afraid to wear body con clothes out, Jesse?:straightface:

Do u think they look too sexy?:battingeyelashes:

[Heather76]

I enjoy light makeup, wigs, forms, hose, and shoes. At home I wear dresses every evening. On the few times I've been out dressed, I've worn dresses as well as jeans and a top. I have pads but don't enjoy wearing them although I have on a couple occasions.

I would be embarrassed to wear forms under my male clothing. I want to either present female or male, but not an obvious combination of the two. What others do is their own business.

[Lacey New]

For me, a really good day is wearing a bra, slip or camisole and pantyhose over my panties. If I can go out underdressed like that and go shopping for another piece of lingerie, then it is a great day. Otherwise, often times, just wearing panties is enough.

[AmyJordan]

Hi

I don't think I have limits on my style of dressing, it can be anything from sissy to glam to girl next door, my wife loves me to come up with different looks all the time.

No offence but masks are not my thing and if I was out I would have to be fully dressed top to toe as I am at home, I would certainly not be brave enough as some here to still present male facially but dress femininely.

Oh and as someone mentioned no tucking the thought makes me shudder.

Amy x

[JesseVF]

To your question Doc - yes for me basically it would be too sexy. In other words it would be attracting too much attention to myself - when I?m out I?m trying to blend in as that?s just more my comfort zone and fits my personality.
Only my former therapist saw my crazier looks for our zoom meetings.
Maybe in the right situation someday - who knows?

[Jasmine23]

Hi all,

I've never gone out publicly, but, if I ever do, I'd be dressed head to toe as a woman, I'd like to "pass" as best I can, I know passing is a dirty word for some, but, for me it would be very important. I don't want to look like a man in drag. While I'd like to dress femininely, skirts, dresses, heels etc I'd like to blend in, so nothing over the top ie, ultra feminine/ ****ty. My limits would be wearing oversized breasts, dressing as a sissy/ little girl, wearing face mask. I wouldn't like to draw unwanted attention, would like to be seen as just a woman going about her business.

[snoostrawberry]

For me there's a lot to be said for how I dress at home versus how I would present myself outside. I wouldn't want to draw attention to myself, and success would be just blending in. Sometimes I do add some femme clothing to my drab self in the outside world, but that's about as far as I've gone.

[Claire M]

For me, when I dress to leave the house it's, makeup, padding and wig. Makeup, even glamorous makeup, doesn't need to be "heavy". I use just enough to highlight and feminize me features without looking heavy or cakey.

I try not to criticize other's outfits ... to each her own. But I cringe when I see a CD with makeup so heavy it might crack, outfits totally inappropriate for the venue or outrageously excessive breastforms. . The trans junior high shop teacher in the news a while back weaing breast forms the size of basketballs was inappropriate and disgusting (if not a safety hazard!!)

If I could wear whatever without any judgement I would probably dress much as do on my occasional public outings. Boring as it may seem to some, I'm pretty much a Lands End / Ann Taylor kind of girl.

[Maid_Marion]

I've worn a crochet crop top with no bra during the heat of summer. Don't remember whether I wore that with a skirt or short shorts.

[Jessica Secret]

Romantic lingerie, forms, and wig. I've never had a desire to wear makeup.