Do you shake your head sometimes at us?

[GypsyKaren]

I look at some of the stuff trannies come up with, and I really wonder what they're thinking. "I want to look pregnant", "I want to wear monthly protection", "visible panty lines"...I could go on and on, but I think you catch what I'm talking about. When you see this kind of stuff, what do you think? Does it make you not want to take us seriously? I know it bothers me and leaves me shaking my head in disbelief.

GypsyKaren

[Tamara Croft]

It get's me really mad and I post how I feel about it. But that causes arguements and then I get even more mad. It doesn't put me off the majority, but it does make me wonder what these people think it's really like being a woman.

[Toyah]

It get's me really mad and I post how I feel about it. But that causes arguements and then I get even more mad. It doesn't put me off the majority, but it does make me wonder what these people think it's really like being a woman.

Tamara loosing her rag ? getting angry / whatever does she mean sweety pie that she is :evil: .
Still I do think most of the stuff we do is ridiculas but hey we are CDs I have a giggle about what I myself and others do its not worth taking seriously:straightface:

[livy_m_b]

If you're going to be t, you have to have a sense of humor, otherwise it will kill you. For the rest, just keep expressing yourself, we do slowly get the idea! :)

[mellisa's wife]

Tamara - sounds like you might need help here.

Yeah - I do shake my head at some of the stuff I read here. It's a good thing that ggs don't take every little thing and every teeny detail of everyday life so seriously. If it took us 2 -3 to put ourselves "together" every day... when would we get anything else done? I would still be primping for the morning. lol

Seriously - I am a gg who enjoys being a little extra "feminine" most of the time. I always have my nails done perfectly, wash and style my hair ( not back in a ponytail) every day... full makeup even to take the mail to the mailbox ... in other words I get carried away sometimes too. But come on gurls...... really!

The threads about being pregnant, have our "time of the month" and such things is just..... don't know whether to say hilarious or disgusting. I love many things about being female but the "monthly" thing is something I don't care to even think about and as far as the "wonderful experience of being pregnant" I will just say... I had a rough pregnancy... gave birth to a beautiful bouncing baby boy of almost 11 pounds... it was not fun, it was not pleasant and no - I don't regret it but wouldn't ever want to do it again.

Don't worry - we still love you "gurls" anyhow.... or we wouldn't be here!

0.02 from "the wife"

:cheeky:

[Anita Mae GG]

The pregnancy and period threads are ridiculous in my opinion. Even if you try to emulate those things, what sort of purpose does it hold for CDer's? Doesn't give you the REAL effect anyway and is like me stuffing socks in my pants and saying, look I know what guy feels like now......NOT!

Overall I don't take to the CDer's that dress like ****s and put gobs of make up on and then wonder WHY they aren't being accepted or "passing" in public. When you do that, people don't take you seriously. Reallly that is how I see things.

[Cheery GG]

I have to agree with Tammy Marie....there are many things on this forum which leave me utterley gob smacked...and its not very often i'm stuck for words....

I find the said threads in distaste to women...they leave me feeling utterley disappointed in most cd's......and makes me feel like...'why should i share any part of myself on here, when my woman hood is just being mocked....

I have learned not to read those threads....and its probably why i dont post in many of them.....there is a distinct lack of respect for women sometimes....and it saddens me for the genuine cd's who want us around and want to learn from us.....

cheery
xx

[purple_spider GG]

hi
I think the reason why some TGs in particular those who are transitioning, want to have periods or be able to get pregnant is because only genetic women have periods and can get pregnant, unless they have endrochrine disorders or endometriosis, but thats another topic. Perhaps having periods and getting pregnant makes them feel more like a woman? This is not the case though because there are a lot of women out there who cannot get pregnant or who have problems with their periods. And just because a woman goes through menopause she is not any less a woman than she was before.

Having said all of that, I think that most TGs need to accept that whilst they may identify as women, there are some things that all the hormones and surgery in the world cannot fix for you. I knew of a TS girl who was so unhappy and depressed because she could not have periods!! Its just one of those things, the SRS and the hormone therapy gets better with time but its not *that* good. I just think that sometimes a reality check is needed.

Other than that I don't know why anyone would want to have periods!! Mine are horrible; PMT; cramps; pain; heavy bleeding; feeling all tired; feeling generally like shit; No really why??? They are not fun and they don't make you feel feminine, they make you feel like crawling into bed with your favourite PJs and a hot water bottle. Oh and periods on holiday? Gah!!

Hugs
debs
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[GypsyKaren]

Em, you took the words right out of my mouth, "lack of respect". Some of the things I see make me want to go hide in the corner for being a tranny. I just don't understand why those who want to emulate women, or say they are like one inside, can go in that direction. I know that it sure makes me wonder, and it really does bother me.

Karen

[Angel73 GG]

but it does make me wonder what these people think it's really like being a woman.

I have to agree to this too! Not so much the general CDing, but some of those things that you described, Karen. It's like it trivializes or mocks us in some way and I find it irritating.

[Kerry Owens]

Um. I think I need 2 more cups of coffee!! The truth of it I have far too many times I'm shaking my head at myself. Clumsy me, or dropping the tray of beads I was workin with.
I don't worry about what SO is doing...at least he's not dropping a 35.00 tray of facetted pearls....sigh.

[emma_bb]

omg u mean crossdressing etc isnt serious :eek: :eek: :eek: :p flipping is serious when u end up with blue toes because u want size 4 feet when i reality ur like 15 or something ..not me though because i am petite *choke*

as for periods omg i so want to have cramps and feel moody and crap
i think monty python summed it up best ..we will fight for the right to have babies ..whats the point ..wheres the fetus going to gestate in a box
(i know thats not word for word so any python fans pllz allow me some artistic licence ty)
i have to say some fellow tg's can get a lil frought and OTT about the whole thing i mean come on i know it causes alot of pain and upset but there is more to life than being fem ..u can only do what u can i think its called knowing ur limits and girrrlfriend periods just aint gonna happen

[BethGG]

I don't usually care what other people do with their own time, but that pad/tampon thread still haunts me :doh: It just makes me think some CDrs are overly romanticising it...they think wearing a pad makes them feel feminine, but do they realize that NO woman "feels feminine" when they wear a tampon/pad? The only thoughts that go through a woman's mind when they have a period is "Eww this sucks I got my period" or "Yay I'm not pregnent! But still eww." or "Damnit I haven't gotten pregnent yet. This sucks". I think I can generalize when I say this but women never think "I love getting my period! It makes me feel girly!". We don't like wearing tampons/pads, we were them cause we have to. I mean not to be graphic but we wear these things cause we have blood dripping out of us! How would you feel if you had blood oozing out of your parts, not too sexy huh :p So I dunno, I just think it's a strange thing to want to have, it's one of those things women DON'T like, so why would a CD want it?

[Cheery GG]

Well put Beth.....

cheery
xx

[Julie.]

The pregnancy and period threads are ridiculous in my opinion. Even if you try to emulate those things, what sort of purpose does it hold for CDer's? Doesn't give you the REAL effect anyway and is like me stuffing socks in my pants and saying, look I know what guy feels like now.

But...but...but... you would! You'd know exactly what its like...

Well so long as you follow the rules

1. When having a Beer think of having of Sex

2. When having Sex think of having a Beer

3. At all other times think only of having a Beer or having Sex (not necessarily in that order) and of /Nothing/ else

Ok... lets get those socks* shoved down there and you are good to go...

Mr S

* Dont use an enormous pair of socks (I know your'e gonna be tempted to put three pairs in there...trust me, I know... its a uh... 'Guy Thing') Cos you'll just frighten the girlies away....

ummmm... no wait......:D

[Sandra]

Yes it makes me wonder what planet they are on:mad: It's not very nice being doubled up most of the day with cramps, having to change knickers a couple of times a day because you've leaked all over the place, yes I can just see Tgs coping with that as for getting pregnant don't get me started on that one. :Angry3:

[Joy Carter]

I'm going to stand with the GGs on this one even if I was not CD or TG or what ever I have respect and we are not showing any talking like that.

[RenaCD]

Em, you took the words right out of my mouth, "lack of respect". Some of the things I see make me want to go hide in the corner for being a tranny. I just don't understand why those who want to emulate women, or say they are like one inside, can go in that direction. I know that it sure makes me wonder, and it really does bother me.

Karen

This is a question that needed to asked and well answered
Thanks GG's and Thank You Karen!
I know that we can't all be Ladies on this Forum It's a good rounded mix but some topic's just floor me.
I.E. If I Get the right Breast Forms can I go Topless? LOL!
Give me a Frackin Break Please!!
Too Each Their Own, I Guess! But Really
If we are intelligent enough to own a PC or even a Remote Control for a Television, Here a Quarter Buy a Clue!

Warm Thoughts Too All RenaCD
Thanks K :p

[RenaCD]

is like me stuffing socks in my pants and saying, look I know what guy feels like now......NOT.

Hey Girl Try a Zucchini Squash!!!! LOL:lol2: :lol2: :laughing: :sorry:

[Di]

There are times when I just read things and...i,m thinking... I,m not even answering that one...what will come out of my mouth...will not be pretty..other times just shake my head and move on.....To each their own.

[dancinginthedark]

I look at some of the stuff trannies come up with, and I really wonder what they're thinking. "I want to look pregnant", "I want to wear monthly protection", "visible panty lines"...I could go on and on, but I think you catch what I'm talking about. When you see this kind of stuff, what do you think? Does it make you not want to take us seriously? I know it bothers me and leaves me shaking my head in disbelief.

GypsyKaren

sometimes I don't just shake my head, I shake my fist too. :Angry3: Don't know wheter to laugh or cry at some of those threads.

[kathy gg]

I would say that half the time stuff makes me laugh the other half of the time I am shaking my head in disbelief. And most of the time I am sitting there thanking my lucky stars that those stories are not coming from my guy.

I don't take about 99% of it seriously. But I am sure on more than one occasion I have gotten upset by something I read about.

I do think so much of the whackyness comes from too many years of hiding and repression. I would probably be a little whacky too if I had to repress my feelings. That is when my empathy kicks in and any possible confusion subsides.

[Shelly Preston]

I think our biggest problem is that we are all different

We all have our own character and good and bad points

intelligence
compassion
stupidity
humour
arrogance
The ratio in which each person has these is is different.

These are only some so it wont surprise anyone that some questions will upset some of our community. I asked the VPL question which may have upset some. My reason for doing so was that I was genuinely curious. Attitudes have changed so much in my lifetime. ( how many gg's enjoy the diet coke ads with the hunky man)
This would have been unthinkable 30 years ago.
There are some questions which upset me, So I then have to decide respond or ignore

Thank you for reading the thoughts of a humble crossdresser.

[Jacqui]

I will put in my 0.02 0.02 on this topic so hopefully, you may gain a little more insight...I don't think that anyone has intentionally wanted to belittle or offend GG's in general and GG's in this forum specifically.

I personally think that alot of the CD's in this forum are more than CD's. I also think that many are more than TG. I suspect that unbeknownst to themselves, many of them, including myself, are borderline TS, as in Transexual.

It is true that many of us here are totally content with wearing women's clothing, and like, Gypsy Karen, have no desire at all to take hormones, to have SRS, or in effect, to become a woman. Wearing the clothes and being perceived are the two most important things. Maybe add in a little excitement. That is CD.

I am not a pysch major. I'm not qualified to give anyone advice. And I can't vouch for the veracity of anything further that I write. But I think there is a tremendous difference in the type of person I just described and the kinds of TS-type people that inhabit this place.

Being TS (to me) is more than dressing. Clothes are just a means to an end. "Trapped in a man's body" means that there is a Female mind at work here...otherwise it wouldn't be trapped. Having a Female mind naturally leads to thoughts of being Female, looking Female, thinking Female, and feeling Female. The only problem is...we wuz robbed! Robbed of the gender that the GG's take for granted.

If someone were to tell me that if I should "become" a woman, I would get the monthlies, PMS, and have the opportunity to give birth...well, isn't that what comes with the territory?

If someone were to tell me that if I should "become" a woman, I would be subjected to glass ceilings, discrimination, not getting phone calls after the first date, the possibility of physical abuse from a stronger sex, the government taking away the rights of my own body...aren't these issues that many women face?

Believe it or not, this is what TS people think about, sometimes all day long!

If you dumped every negative there was about "being a woman" and put it in front of our eyes, I would guess that a Transexual person would choose the pile in a second over a similar pile filled with all of the positives of being a male.

I don't know what specific threads you're talking about. I know that I posted once about having a dream that I was pregnant and I had a big belly. I didn't plan the dream, it just came. Did you ever have a dream about anything that was so real that when you woke up you had to ask yourself, "was I dreaming?" Some of the replies that I received in that thread were slightly mocking.


Perhaps there have been some other posts that I have not read that could be deemed offensive. There are people here who for similar reasons that your SO's CD, think these thoughts or act them out, and like your SO CD's, there is no way to resist. Fortunately, they have this forum to communicate with others who share their thoughts and offer support.

If straight CD's wish to be respected for indulging in an alternative lifestyle that is offensive to the majority of the population, they should at least respect those who are further up the ladder on the Harry (forgot his last name) scale of gender dysphoria or whatever. We need more than just a few outfits!

I'm sorry if this post offended anyone, but after reading the preceeding replies, I just had to rant.

Sorry,

Jacqui

[joanlynn28]

I know that some of these posts are getting rediculous lately. It is time that some out there grow up and stop being little school girls. I joined this site wanting to connect with other cd'ers and such. But what I really want is to interact with the true TG's and TS's, the only real place I have found such is at the local drag bar where we TG's and TS's frequent. Yes I want to know what it is like to experience prenancy, periods, hormones, etc but I can't and never will even as a transgendered woman so to the rest of you just grow up and act like the mature adults you are.

[joanlynn28]

Hey Jacqui ditto to all of the above I am with you sister on this one. If the war breaks out I am on your side.