Interesting Prediction

[Rochal Tukque]

I?m reflecting on the Different Strokes thread. Char GG touched on an interesting point. Predicting that the CDer males trying their best to be passable as female would fade to more of an androgynous type dress. Interesting point for sure. Speaking for myself, yes after the Pink Fog illustration faded I graduated to an androgynous type style. But I was never passable in the first place LOL. Speaking to history, we have not hundreds of years but thousands of years of documentary evidence of males trying their absolute best at being passable as a female. My analogy of the crossdresser vs society, is like getting gum on your shoe. No matter how much scraping is done that little sticky sound hangs around. No matter how society stigmatizes, legislates, scrutinizes we are still around. So are we a fading endangered species dressing more to just blend in? I guess will see if predictions come true. Excellent point Char for one to ponder.
Hugs Rochal

[Sabine7]

Hi Rochal,
yes, you are completely right that males pretending to be women or living as women have been present in history for thousands of years. Interestingly, it is just our Judeo-Christian (and not only) patriarchal tradition that used to do its best to change the life of such people a nightmare. I guess it will remain a mistery what was the God's plan, especially doubting if what was written in the old holy books, was really His words.
Personally, I am fascinated by the phenomenon of the ancient worship of the godness Ashtarte. It was a tradition that during annual celebrations religiously roused males evently used to cut off their male parts and joined the godness temple staff as a female priests to live there as women forever.
I wonder if this could be classified as historically evindenced examples of a gender dysphoria and a male to femal transition.
If yes then I would understand and somehow accept this exotic tradition quite clearly now.
Sabine

[Genifer Teal]

I like the glam side. No male androgeny here.

[alwayshave]

I am rather binary. It is full on wear a dress or nothing (save underdressing).

[docrobbysherry]

I 've been to countless T events around the country and young dressers, say under 45, just don't show up!:sad:

Because the young T's aren't interested in presenting as women. They present as themselves. A blend, or combination, of male and female!:)

[DianeT]

Crossdressers will never go extinct. But our kind of crossdressing based on gendered clothing stereotypes from the 50s-60s, yes, I believe it will go extinct with us. The next generation has new standards of femininity that aren't based on heels and hose and wigs and the whole tralala, and their style is more walking freely around the gender border than crossing it and chosing a side.

[Stephanie47]

For me, it's feminine all the way or nothing. No mixing. I am stuck with obvious male features. Maybe, when I was young, tall and slim, I could pass as a Swede in Sweden. Those days are in my past. I know what I feel inside. I have been out totally en femme, but, with the exception of Halloween, I sought not to interact with fellow humans. It's a need for peace and tranquility that I do what I do. When dressing at home, all I have to do is avoid full length mirrors.

I have not seen very many "mixers" in my area, but when I do, I try to figure out what his or her aim may be?

[kimdl93]

I hesitate to predict the future for myself let alone all of humanity. I suspect that there are while society may (big if) be more tolerate of diverse gender expressions, there will always be individuals who have deep seated personal reasons for seeking to present as women, passable or not, and beyond that to live in a manner that, at least to them, expresses a female gender.

I think the following video is pretty relevant, particularly for those of us began to emerge (in perhaps a variety of ways) after the age of 35 (which seems awfully young now!)

https://youtu.be/JmUgdaDSP6A?si=Kpaqscy9T43zPTmu

[Cheryl T]

Well, for myself I try to present fully as a woman and do so as best I can.
As for drifting to androgynous, no, that will never happen and in fact since I've retired I've gone the opposite way and actually have for the most part changed my wardrobe towards more feminine and more dressy. Although the area we are in is more casual and I do dress primarily to blend in when at home I'm more in heels and hose than anything else.

[AmyJordan]

Hi definitely no androgynous dressing on my part it's ultra femme or a red bottom, only joking sort of, but in reality my wife does insist on very feminine outfits.

Amy x

[BLUE ORCHID]

For me the whole idea of Crossdressing is to look as Feninine as I can,

[alwayshave]

I 've been to countless T events around the country and young dressers, say under 45, just don't show up!:sad:
Sherry, while my meetup group does trend older, there are always younger CD/trans girls at the meetups.

[chrissy111]

Always fem for me, don't own any boys clothes.

[OrdinaryAverageGuy]

I'm either a man in men's clothes or a man in women's clothes and make no attempt to pretend I'm something I'm not.

[Bea_]

Considering that most women's wear in the late twentieth and early twenty-first centuries is based on men's wear of the previous era, even men's wear is somewhat androgynous. A woman with strong feminine cues can wear pretty much anything from the men's aisle and still present very feminine. I can remember when marketers realized that they could make a lot of money by sizing jeans to fit women specifically because women were buying men's jeans regularly. My wife and I could share jeans for many years after we married.

I like wearing many things from the women's department, but I don't tend to go beyond a man in women's clothes. It's definitely androgyny/hybrid and not female for me.