View Full Version : What do you want from this section?? 'Ask The GG's'
Tamara Croft
04-24-2006, 12:34 PM
Right now, I'm pulling my hair out trying to get a concensus from everyone what to do with this section. Rather than tell you all what everyone thinks this section should be about, I'm asking you to please vote on the poll and/or post your views. This poll will run for a week and at the end of the week, the highest vote is how this section shall be ran.
kittypw GG
04-24-2006, 12:48 PM
I think that this is a great section. The questions should be serious questions related to relationships etc. Lets leave the panty and bra questions in the mtf section as we can always respond if we would like there. I don't mind non gg responsed if they have relavent expirences to share. Kitty
Andrea Evans
04-24-2006, 12:50 PM
My presumption of this area was an opportunity for all us men who like to dress en femme to be able to ask a real woman their perspective or opinion on matters that can assist us in some way.
I think it is absolutely wonderful that we have unique access to GG's who are willing to do this, even if sometimes they offer an opinion that we would rather not hear.
I am impressed at the honesty with which these ladies respond to our questions and would like it to continue.
Julie York
04-24-2006, 12:59 PM
I don't understand why there was a need for this section anyway. If someone asks a question and a GG has wisdom then why didn't they share it anyway in the MtF section? And if they were answering anyway....then why the need for a seperate section?
Tamara Croft
04-24-2006, 01:01 PM
I have just realised, poll #1 and poll #5 are more or less the same... doh.. so those will be added together at the end.
Tamara Croft
04-24-2006, 01:03 PM
I don't understand why there was a need for this section anyway. If someone asks a question and a GG has wisdom then why didn't they share it anyway in the MtF section? And if they were answering anyway....then why the need for a seperate section?Because even if a member poses a question for ONLY GG's to answer, everyone else answers anyway because and because this section was requested... obviously it seems to be a waste of time, it's just ended up a subsection of the MTF forum.
ChristineRenee
04-24-2006, 01:05 PM
As I understand the section to have been...it was only to have the GG's respond to questions that were asked of them. It was not designed to have non-GG's answer the questions so why do they continue to do so?:rolleyes:
dancinginthedark
04-24-2006, 01:22 PM
IMHO this section should be for GG's to respond only. The idea was to ask a GG not another CD. If you had wanted input from a CD then post it in the MTF or FTM section. If a non GG wants to add their two cents they are free to PM the person who posted.
Why a separate section in the first place? I have a life and I don’t always have the time nor the luxury to wade through the BS to find the post put out there by someone who wants my input, advise or help. I would like to be available to help anyone but spending countless hours wading through it all to find you is ridiculous. Now do you get it?
If someone wants both GG and non GG advise then put a notice here with a link and we will find you that way. That way no one gets their panties in a bunch. Now excuse me. My panties are all bunched up. :evil: :D
Sharon
04-24-2006, 01:25 PM
As I understand the section to have been...it was only to have the GG's respond to questions that were asked of them. It was not designed to have non-GG's answer the questions so why do they continue to do so?:rolleyes:
Suppose I have something of relevance to say, from my past experience with GG's? Shouldn't I have a right to express an opinion if it's applicable?
ChristineRenee
04-24-2006, 01:29 PM
Suppose I have something of relevance to say, from my past experience with GG's? Shouldn't I have a right to express an opinion if it's applicable?Yes Sharon...but then it defeats the purpose of the section doesn't it if it is only supposed to be for GG's to respond. If that's going to be the case then why have the section at all then?
Sharon
04-24-2006, 01:36 PM
Yes Sharon...but then it defeats the purpose of the section doesn't it if it is only supposed to be for GG's to respond. If that's going to be the case then why have the section at all then?
The purpose of this forum is so that threads addressed to GG's don't get buried in the MtF section by countless other threads. It allows our GG members to more easily locate them.
My wife is no longer with me to respond to a question, but I feel comfortable enough to answer for her. So, why can't I?
kittypw GG
04-24-2006, 01:38 PM
I don't understand why there was a need for this section anyway. If someone asks a question and a GG has wisdom then why didn't they share it anyway in the MtF section? And if they were answering anyway....then why the need for a seperate section?
Julie in all honesty some of the questions maybe be overlooked because they are sandwiched between pantie and bra threads or a lot of the gg's may not even poke their head in that section. So by having a specific section to ask a gg they are more likely to get a response from a gg. Kitty
ChristineRenee
04-24-2006, 01:41 PM
The purpose of this forum is so that threads addressed to GG's don't get buried in the MtF section by countless other threads. It allows our GG members to more easily locate them.
My wife is no longer with me to respond to a question, but I feel comfortable enough to answer for her. So, why can't I?Ok Sharon...I'll play. Well...then it's perfectly ok with me if it's ok with Tamara and the other mods.;)
DonnaT
04-24-2006, 01:42 PM
I agree with Sharon.
Although the Q was intended for GG input, if relavant info from a non-GG might be considered helpful, then I see nothing wrong with answering.
That is the purpose of the forum after all. To help.
Wendy me
04-24-2006, 01:53 PM
ok ask the gg's is a good idear as far as i can see ... the mtf forum is like everyone can post a reply to the question ...what i can see and i said it before have this section like the personials section modarated meening a post here would not go up as a question if it could be done in a outher forum ... pending the question being approived as being with in the guide lines ... it should get sent to the gg fourm for answering by the gg's then closed after a time say a week then returned here so the answred question could be viwed... if someone wants all persons here to respond then the mtf forum or what ever forum the question falls in thay should ask there...if we go with everyone answering the question then are we realy asking just the gg's or are we asking the whole forum to reply????
and if we are asking all persons to reply then we are by forum rules posting that question in the wrong forum.....when we put it in the ask the gg's forum...
RenaCD
04-24-2006, 02:04 PM
As I understand the section to have been...it was only to have the GG's respond to questions that were asked of them. It was not designed to have non-GG's answer the questions so why do they continue to do so?:rolleyes:
Stick by your guns Chistine!! This Section should be for GG's answers only, and if a topic is there that a CDer wants to respond too take it back in part to the Open Forum MtF, FtM, The Lounge.
RenaCD
04-24-2006, 02:07 PM
IMHO this section should be for GG's to respond only. The idea was to ask a GG not another CD. If you had wanted input from a CD then post it in the MTF or FTM section. If a non GG wants to add their two cents they are free to PM the person who posted.
Why a separate section in the first place? I have a life and I don’t always have the time nor the luxury to wade through the BS to find the post put out there by someone who wants my input, advise or help. I would like to be available to help anyone but spending countless hours wading through it all to find you is ridiculous. Now do you get it?
If someone wants both GG and non GG advise then put a notice here with a link and we will find you that way. That way no one gets their panties in a bunch. Now excuse me. My panties are all bunched up. :evil: :D
Right On Thank You
Julie York
04-24-2006, 02:28 PM
Why a separate section in the first place? I have a life and I don’t always have the time nor the luxury to wade through the BS to find the post put out there by someone who wants my input, advise or help. I would like to be available to help anyone but spending countless hours wading through it all to find you is ridiculous. Now do you get it? :D
No I don't get it.
It is a site for everyone. I don't see that it should be structured for ease of use by busy GGs. I too have to "wade through the BS to find the post put out there by someone who wants my input, advise or help." And yet there is not a "Threads Julie York might be interested in" section. All you would need to look for amongst the panty theads is a post saying "For the GGs".
Also, let's look at the REAL problem here (and the reason this section has had some irrelevant posts). Most CDs would quite happily post to GGs and talk to them all day just for a feeling of acceptance and the feeling of being "one of the girls" regardless of how dumb the question is. Just to 'make contact'. So you're going to get flooded with stuff and the rest of the forum will suffer accordingly. It will , in effect, create a Problem Page for CDs...."Ask the GGs [a REAL woman! Wow!] anything to make you feel accepted!" instead of a crossdressers forum.
Also, there was a post here earlier with 56 looks, that not one person answered because it was in this section. It had been looked at by 56 people. No-one even said hello because it was a 'hot' subject for GGs to deal with. Wouldn't it be sensible for everyone to be able to offer an opinion and the poster to have the option to take from the replies what they will. Even if it was "Hello".
Amelie
04-24-2006, 03:18 PM
I think there should be a “Ask the gay guy” section, for cds who have questions about their sexuality.
Think about it. There are many Cds at this site that constantly ask if they are gay or why are Cds considered gay or worries that they might also be gay. Well, If this forum had a “ask the gay guy” section, many Cds can have their worst fears laid to rest. They can have the resident gay guy help them with their fears about gayness and the horrors it brings. This resident gay guy will aid the straight CD, to make sure he isn’t lured into the gay trap and become a homosexual. This is a great fear to the straight CD and the “gay guy” could help the straight cd remain on the right path in life.
It makes sense, there are more questions and concerns about being labeled gay by the Cds here at the forum that a section to ease their fears would come in handy. It would be a shame if a straight CD didn’t have this support and one day became a gay man, just because we didn’t have the right section for him to post in. And as a gay guy, we have enough members in our club, we don’t need any straight Cds to join us, we don’t have room for any more members.
My opinion: We are all the same in this forum. We seem to be sectioning things a bit too much. I can understand some types of sectioning like subject matter, but these new sections are sectioned off for certain types of people and this leaves people left out and some are confused as where to post their questions. I agree with what Julie said also.
Breanne
04-24-2006, 03:30 PM
I have just realised, poll #1 and poll #5 are more or less the same... doh.. so those will be added together at the end.
Isn't #3 the same also?
Momarie
04-24-2006, 03:44 PM
No I don't get it.
It is a site for everyone. I don't see that it should be structured for ease of use by busy GGs. I too have to "wade through the BS to find the post put out there by someone who wants my input, advise or help." And yet there is not a "Threads Julie York might be interested in" section. All you would need to look for amongst the panty theads is a post saying "For the GGs".
Also, let's look at the REAL problem here (and the reason this section has had some irrelevant posts). Most CDs would quite happily post to GGs and talk to them all day just for a feeling of acceptance and the feeling of being "one of the girls" regardless of how dumb the question is. Just to 'make contact'. So you're going to get flooded with stuff and the rest of the forum will suffer accordingly. It will , in effect, create a Problem Page for CDs...."Ask the GGs [a REAL woman! Wow!] anything to make you feel accepted!" instead of a crossdressers forum.
Also, there was a post here earlier with 56 looks, that not one person answered because it was in this section. It had been looked at by 56 people. No-one even said hello because it was a 'hot' subject for GGs to deal with. Wouldn't it be sensible for everyone to be able to offer an opinion and the poster to have the option to take from the replies what they will. Even if it was "Hello".
Obviously, you don't get it.
And I find your snotty tone and remarks offensive.
Tamara Croft
04-24-2006, 04:44 PM
Isn't #3 the same also?No, this means I set it up so members can post a thread but not reply to any other threads, only the GG's will be able to do this.
Anyway, I've put the 'ask the gg's' on ice until this poll is done. When a decision has been made in 7 days, we'll decide what to do with it then.
Marla S
04-24-2006, 05:04 PM
If there is an "Ask the GGs" section, then it is up to the GGs to answer or not. Otherwise the subforum should be called "Ask the community" or "Male to Female Crossdressing" as it is called now. The justification for a "Ask the GGs" section would be that there are certain questions (might be only a few) only GGs are able to answer due to their own experiences and their point of view. Of course silly questions like "How does it feel to wear a bra ?" or "How does it feel to be pregnant ?" would fall in this category too, but I think the section should be devoted to relationship, acceptance, family issues etc.
I voted for #3 because with #1 and #5 it will most likely occur that non-GGs will answer (forums work like this; independent of the rules or announcements). Everybody who likes to get answers from the whole community can post in the MTF or FTM section.
Julie York
04-24-2006, 05:10 PM
Obviously, you don't get it.
And I find your snotty tone and remarks offensive.
Why? My comments were not meant to be "snotty". Why were they offensive?
Wendy me
04-24-2006, 05:13 PM
just a note how ever you think this should or should not be done this thread is for talking abought it....and we should express our opions in a positive way ....that is to say be to the point on what you have to say ...and respecte the outhers opions ... bashing or getting into a pissing war is not the intent of this thread .... so please stay on topic and respecte outhers opions as you would also like them to do yours.....
Tamara Croft
04-24-2006, 05:21 PM
Also, there was a post here earlier with 56 looks, that not one person answered because it was in this section.Thats BS, sorry but it is... theres been 256 looks at this thread and only 25 replies so far, so what's your point?
There's a few hundred threads in these forums that have NEVER been replied to and have had many view them, want the links? AND most of them are in the MTF section... so your theory that it didnt get replied to because it was in 'that' forum is flawed.
I thought we had adults on this forum, not babies who stamp their damn feet everytime something changes, or it doesn't quite sit well with them, or isn't in 'their' catergory.. Why is it only this forums members stamp their feet and have tantrums whenever something is done? I don't see this type of thing anywhere else, probably because they don't stand for it. You lot are getting famous for it. Digging at changes, digging at rules, whinging about this, doing this that and the sodding other... don't some of you have nothing better to do than pick constant faults? Or is this your forte?
MichelleGray502
04-24-2006, 05:25 PM
Yes i would have to argree with tamara and sharon, this section should only be for gg's to answer the questions and nobody else should. or like everyone has pretty well said on the topic just get rid of it all together 'coz why would we need it then .
Julie York
04-24-2006, 05:26 PM
I was not referring to this thread. (If you look at the quote you used.)
Tamara Croft
04-24-2006, 05:31 PM
I was not referring to this thread. (If you look at the quote you used.)I know you wasn't refering to this thread, I was simply stating that it doesn't matter how many times one looks at a thread, it doesn't mean they want to post in it, no matter where it is posted.
Janelle Young
04-24-2006, 05:40 PM
I miss the Ask A GG section already and it has been gone what, a day? I think it is a very important section and it needs to be here in some form. The GG are what makes this place as good as it is, in my opinion.
I have asked a few questions to this part of the forum and have been grateful for the responses that I have received. So far all of them have been from GG, but if a CD has 'relevant information to share I would like to hear that as well. Key word here is relevant. Perhaps a stronger intro for any non GG posting replies that it needs to be relevant.
So I vote for number four, even though I do not like the idea of someone telling me what I can and can not read.
As long as the Ask A GG section is here I will enjoy it and get much information from it. Bring it back in what ever shape it needs to be in, just bring it back.
miss_sarah
04-24-2006, 05:56 PM
If i reply to a FtM or GG-ONLY forum question, it's typically because I hardly EVER look at which sub-forum the thread is posted in. Here's my typical visit:
hit bookmark to crossdressers.com
Click "NEW POSTS" in the menu
Browse THREAD TITLES (with little regard to what sub-forum the post resides)
I have a feeling there are others that surf this way too... I very rarely go through the sub-forums one by one from the main page...
0.02 (has anyone else noticed that this smiley says 20c? $00.2 in its bubble... LOL)
EDIT: Tamara, I just saw your post mentioning a "LockOut" so NON-GG could only START a thread, but not reply to it. I think that'd deter me from my above reason, but I'd ask this: Would the thread started be able to reply for followup? That would seem to be vital... Just curious ;) I'm a phpBB guru, and know very little about vBulletin's settings :)
Tina Dixon
04-24-2006, 06:10 PM
For all members to ask the GG's a question and ONLY GG's answer them
Momarie
04-24-2006, 06:17 PM
Why? My comments were not meant to be "snotty". Why were they offensive?
Then perhaps you should re-read your post along with the one you posted in The Lounge ~ "Ask The GG's" Should I have the pizza or the fish 'n chips for tea today?
Tamara Croft
04-24-2006, 06:30 PM
0.02 (has anyone else noticed that this smiley says 20c? $00.2 in its bubble... LOL)Don't you know inflation has gone up?? :p
EDIT: Tamara, I just saw your post mentioning a "LockOut" so NON-GG could only START a thread, but not reply to it. I think that'd deter me from my above reason, but I'd ask this: Would the thread started be able to reply for followup? That would seem to be vital... Just curious ;) I'm a phpBB guru, and know very little about vBulletin's settings :)Catch 22, I'm not sure, but where there is a will, there is always a way ;)
And I hope you have all noticed that question 1 is almost the same as question 4 and I say again.. I'm going to add them together....
Adrianne
04-24-2006, 06:38 PM
Tamara i think it is a good idea to have a sub forum called ask the GG because there is things that they can answer that us m to f can not answer.
Kim E
04-24-2006, 06:45 PM
I chose #5, if the section is "Ask The GG's" then it should only be GG's who reply to the questions posted there. Common sense would indicate that.
Otherwise, if everyone is allowed to reply there, the section will get loaded up with a ton of irrelevant shit and the original purpose will be defeated.
Kim
oh dear .. I do get perplexed at the behaviour of some of us.
Its simple.
If there is an "Ask a GG Forum" limiteed to GG's only to answer ... and ... you dont like it .. well its easy.
Dont participate in it ... go where you are happy.
Leave it to those who want to participate that way.
Its a bit like a menu in a restaurant ... I dont always like what is on offer, so I dont order it. I dont expect them to take it off the menu!
Amelie
04-24-2006, 06:52 PM
Tamara, the reason you don't see this type of response on other cd forums is because they are bloody boring forums. They are full of long winded posts that go on and on and on and bore me to death. They talk for a whole page when two lines would be enough to answer a thread.
This forum is more diverse with different types of members, with minds of their own, people who can speak their minds on an issue. The other forums are like a lot of yes men they all agree to everything that is said. Or they gang up on the lone dissenter.
And did I mention, that they are boring.
Hey, How about a section where the cd only can answer to cd questions, or maybe a section where CDs only answer to GG questions, or maybe a section where cd only answer to questions by GGs and CDs. The combinations are limitless.
I was at a council meeting open to the public recently. The public were allowed to pose questions and make a statement. Only the chair of the meeting and the coucillors were allowed to respond. It meant that the meeting could proceed with some order.
There is little difference between that meeting and the proposal that anyone can pose a question, but only GG's can answer. Keeps it in order and manageable.
Tamara Croft
04-24-2006, 07:02 PM
Tamara, the reason you don't see this type of response on other cd forums is because they are bloody boring forums. And did I mention, that they are boring.
Hey, How about a section where the cd only can answer to cd questions, or maybe a section where CDs only answer to GG questions, or maybe a section where cd only answer to questions by GGs and CDs. The combinations are limitless.Ok, maybe they are boring, I dunno....... maybe I only notice it more cus I read everything (well nearly) here.... cd - cd... yes we have the gm forum :p as for the others.. don't make me slap you :slap:
It's quite simple.... if you want something.. ask.... ask the gg's was 'requested' by quite a few members, was discussed, was set up. Ok, it was set up too quick.... but the title said it all 'ask the gg's' not 'ask the gg's but everyone else post'... are the titles of forums really so hard to understand?
Marissa_taylor
04-24-2006, 07:08 PM
I just voted #3..but could have voted #1..very similar wording...
Here's what I think....GG's should be the only ones to be able to answer questions posed to them. But all members would be able to post the questions.
If others what to add thier input, they could do so on another thread. Tamara's objective seems to be to keep the thread as the title states "Ask the GG's"
All members would be able to read the questions and answers, correct? Just GG's respond. If a cd has a followup question on the same topic, pose a question to the GG's :)
I am new here, so I hope i dont step on any toes by adding my two cents.
Marissa
Amelie
04-24-2006, 07:11 PM
I don't think that I posted in the "Ask the GG" section. If I did, it was because I misread the title, but I don't think I posted in there.
I just think the forum sectioms overwehlm some of the members, especially new members. The excitment of just finding a CD forum must make it hard for some to manage all the forum rules. Some CDs have been in the closet for years and to come to a CD forum, they probably want to answer all the threads, the excitment can get to them. I don't blame them, they have been hiding for so many years, and now they want to talk as much as they can in case the forum comes to an end and they have to go back to the closet. This forum means a lot to some members.. I don't thinkthat they post in the wrong sections on purpose, I think they are having so much fun that they tend to forget at times.
Lilith Moon
04-24-2006, 07:14 PM
I have just realised, poll #1 and poll #5 are more or less the same... doh.. so those will be added together at the end.
I thought they were the same, so I ticked both :D
I think the forum should function just as it says. Anybody can post a question, answers should come only from GGs. The questions should be appropriate, relevant and ones that need responses specifically from a GG viewpoint. If others want to comment then open a thread in another section. 0.02
Tamara Croft
04-24-2006, 07:22 PM
Just take a step back for 5 minutes if you can and click this link.
http://www.crossdressers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28018
This is more important than a section.... please, go read it.
CharleneCD
04-24-2006, 07:25 PM
I opened up the forums tonight and WTF no ask the GG's. Came to the lounge to see if there was a complaint thread, as it has become one of my favorite sections. I enjoy this forum because it is nice to see the GG's perspective without wading through alot of other stuff. I voted for #5 as I like to see just the GG's replying. If I want to see what my fellow CD's think I get that from the MTF section.
Sharon
04-24-2006, 07:48 PM
The "Ask the GG's" section has been restored and will remain as it is for the time being. All threads are to be answered solely by GG's unless the voting in this poll ultimately says otherwise.
uknowhoo
04-24-2006, 07:49 PM
#5.
GypsyKaren
04-24-2006, 08:03 PM
Personally, I'd like to see only the GGs answer in the thread. However, I do see Sharon's point of view, and it is a valid one. The problem is that to many members will dive in with nonsense and such, so I believe it should be moderated with those kind of replys deleted.
I also think that if someone has a question about outfits and such, that should be posted in MtF. The GGs are over there all the time and will respond to it if they so choose.
Karen
Anita Mae GG
04-24-2006, 08:25 PM
Ok I am with Dancing in the dark on this one!!!
and Julie you need to relax a bit. There is a MtF and a FtM and there should be an "ask the GG's" section for those wanting a genuine woman response. I think it is irrevelant for a CD to answer as THEY ARE NOT WOMEN!
I agree that it has a different relevance than the other sections. Also if the person asking the GG wanted a CD opinion they can post it in the MTF if they choose.My 0.02
I've read it six times ~ and seems to me that #1, #3 and the next to last one are the same, just worded different? LOL!
miss_sarah
04-24-2006, 08:48 PM
I've read it six times ~ and seems to me that #1, #3 and the next to last one are the same, just worded different? LOL!
LOL Dana, you're right. 1, 3 and 5 are the same. Subliminal message perhaps? hahaha Loaded poll! SHEESH! hehe ;)
Tamara Croft
04-24-2006, 10:26 PM
I've read it six times ~ and seems to me that #1, #3 and the next to last one are the same, just worded different? LOL!No, #3 means all members can post a thread, but only GG's will have permissions to answer them... meaning, non gg's won't have any access other than to post a thread..... isn't the same as 1 or 5... which I admit do read more or less the same.... so those polls will be merged at the end.
And some people still aren't getting it and non gg's are answering threads.... grrrrr......
No, #3 means all members can post a thread, but only GG's will have permissions to answer them... meaning, non gg's won't have any access other than to post a thread..... isn't the same as 1 or 5... which I admit do read more or less the same.... so those polls will be merged at the end.
And some people still aren't getting it and non gg's are answering threads.... grrrrr......
For all members to ask the GG's a question and ONLY GG's answer them
Make the section for all members to post a thread and ONLY GG's can answer
This section is called 'Ask the GG's' I don't want NON GG's answering
If not the same, then "I don't want NON GG's answering" is the same or at least more alike to #1 and #2 than dis-like. Its the same as asking which three color jelly beans you want, #1 ~ red, white, and blue, #2 white, blue and red, or #3 blue, red, or white. I realize what you're implying, but what is being infered is construde differently by at least I, and one other. At any rate ~ its just scehmatics ~ and matters not.
Simply because it really is reduced to a mathematical problem ~ one of logistics if you were. There are a finite number of participatory GG's willing to answer quetions to a comparatively infinitie number of questioners. Not only would having such a section make the borad more more efficient, it would be easier on those GG's willing to participate in such a forumn. It would also be easier to the moderators to weed out redundant questions, such as has been posted on the MTF board recently.
And, with that ~I will withdraw, sit down and shut up ~ and leave the matter in your hands.
Bev06 GG
04-25-2006, 02:49 AM
Hi Tamara,
I voted post a question and non GGs answer if they have relevant information. After all on this site we do have GG after our name so everyone will know from which perspective the answer is coming from. And I have to say there are some questions that CDs are perfectly capable of answering if they have had the relevant experience. Its up to the poster of the thread whether or not they want to listen to a CD or a GG. I do actually gain alot of insight into their answers and for me it is just as much a learning process as it is for them.
Take care
BEVxxxx
swiss_susan
04-25-2006, 03:32 AM
As long as some one answers does it really matter, besides when someone wants only gg input they can and do say so,
Susan
Sandra
04-25-2006, 03:32 AM
It seems to me if some one "asks the GGs" then they would prefer an answer from a GG or why ask in the first place? I voted for No1
Colleen Merryweather
04-25-2006, 03:58 AM
I think anyone with relevant information should be able to post a reply.
for example cd members should be able to respond with something their mothers or girlfriends might have said.
or a cd member might want to ask clarification of a question or to post a reply that poses their own or similar questions on the same topic. (not an answer to the question that is the cd's opinion)
but I was wondering about this category of "ask the gg's", does it mean that the FtM people's answers are as desired as that of SO's?
I can also see myself sometime posting a question here even though I am a gg ... if some particular issue came up that I wanted a gg perspective on. (not sure today what that issue might be, I just allow room to be smarter in the future)
Helen MC
04-25-2006, 04:18 AM
What do I want from this section? NOTHING!
I want to communicate with other M to F TVs and CDs . Share their experiences, read and and if I can try to advise on their problems etc. So I don't really need to ask a GG in the context of my own TV/CD life.
miss_sarah
04-25-2006, 09:00 AM
for example cd members should be able to respond with something their mothers or girlfriends might have said.
Good point. My wife doesn't cruise through here often, usually never unless i send her a link to a thread, and she's even less likely to post... so I sometimes have a habit of speaking FOR her... which may or may not be 100% accurate as 2nd hand information, warranted, or requested... hadn't thought of it that way until just now :)
dancinginthedark
04-25-2006, 09:17 AM
No I don't get it.
It is a site for everyone. I don't see that it should be structured for ease of use by busy GGs. I too have to "wade through the BS to find the post put out there by someone who wants my input, advise or help." And yet there is not a "Threads Julie York might be interested in" section. All you would need to look for amongst the panty theads is a post saying "For the GGs".
Also, let's look at the REAL problem here (and the reason this section has had some irrelevant posts). Most CDs would quite happily post to GGs and talk to them all day just for a feeling of acceptance and the feeling of being "one of the girls" regardless of how dumb the question is. Just to 'make contact'. So you're going to get flooded with stuff and the rest of the forum will suffer accordingly. It will , in effect, create a Problem Page for CDs...."Ask the GGs [a REAL woman! Wow!] anything to make you feel accepted!" instead of a crossdressers forum.
Also, there was a post here earlier with 56 looks, that not one person answered because it was in this section. It had been looked at by 56 people. No-one even said hello because it was a 'hot' subject for GGs to deal with. Wouldn't it be sensible for everyone to be able to offer an opinion and the poster to have the option to take from the replies what they will. Even if it was "Hello".
Julie,
I don’t see any section called threads Mae might be interested in either. This is a section for a very small group of members who belong to this site. Look at the numbers some time. Out of over 3500 members how many are GG’s? The site is for CD and their S/O and family members. And don’t most of the CD’s here have a family member or a S/O? Some of us know about the CD/TS/TG/TV and here we are. I have to guess less than 20% are GG and how many are active? I would venture a guess of maybe 20-25. Tamara would have a much better idea. So Tam what are those numbers? Any idea? I may be really underestimating here, but I don't think so.
I did suggest a section where any kind of question or comment would be welcome even something like gossip or just visiting. A place for both GG and CD or anyone else to post to. Think of an online coffee shop. A common lounge so the CD didn't feel I was over stepping my bounds or trespassing on what they considered to be a "girls" only conversation. Not one labeled just for the CD or the GG but a common meeting area. But good grief how many sections can I reasonably expect them to have here? I have to consider that the CD needs some private space to let it hang out too. Wouldn’t you rather I wasn’t snooping and lurking all the d@mn time? Don’t some of you at least wish we would not come wandering in and interrupt the ‘girls’ only wanting to talk with other CD’s? I have to assume so and I sometimes wonder when it is okay to post and when I shoud just go away.
I try to keep my posts to a minum now on the MTF side. But on the other hand when I first joined I know I posted in the MTF side fairly often and I sometimes felt I was poking my nose where it does not belong. I mean I generally got ignored when I wanted nothing more than to be included and talk with the "girls" about the fun stuff. I would like to relax with you all sometimes too. Jeez, cut a girl some slack Woman. It is not like I have a lot of GG's available to me to talk with about fun stuff either out in the middle of nowhere with no car and between jobs. I miss talking clothes and just fun stuff too. So if CD's are so excited about talking with a GG then why ignore us most of the time when we post to the fun threads? Why is it I can read where a GG has posted a comment and it is ignored only to be restated by a CD, and suddenly the same thing a GG posted originally is a wonderful d@mn idea or oh so thought provoking? No, not always but often enough I think two or three times any more before I post at all these days. ~ What is it? Are some of you afraid the other “girls” will think you are glorifying the GG’s if you make us feel included in the your conversations too? Hmmm? :rolleyes: I don’t expect anyone to glorify my happy @ss like some have commented about GG's before, but to be included sometimes would be nice. Sure I know the studies say only 10% of the population is CD. But flip those numbers and you might see that out of those 10% the number of us who share your life's is even lower. I don't have a lot of options for places I am accepted either. ~ I am aware that many do welcome us and say so.
I can't say anything about the post where no one replied since I missed a few days and I also had some bad days so I didn't see it. Life can suck sometimes and I don’t always have my act together. I just don’t see a section here for "I am having a crappy life" or "This isn’t the life I ordered," if it doesn’t directly relate to a CD issue. OH wait! That would be the louge area wouldn't it. Sorry ladies, I think I will go there shortly and let er' rip.
I need more coffee before I can even begin to have a battle of the wits with an armed woman. As it is I have been running my mouth without benefit of my brain being fully engaged. We can debate this more later after I get some more coffee and cigarettes in me.
VeronicaMoonlit
04-25-2006, 10:03 AM
I don't understand why there was a need for this section anyway. If someone asks a question and a GG has wisdom then why didn't they share it anyway in the MtF section? And if they were answering anyway....then why the need for a seperate section?
Because some CD's have a lot of "mindset" invested in "what the GG's think" kind of like putting the GG's on a pedestal. So they ask the GG's questions that almost anyone could answer. LIke the ones about makeup or clothes, any fashionista or makeupista could answer those.
Veronica
Jodie_Lynn
04-26-2006, 12:25 PM
otion 3 AND 4.
Maybe set it up like the 'personals' section where all posts have to be reviewed by a mod before they are actually posted. More work for the mods, I know, but it would cut down on the cross posting of issues best covered elsewhere.
just my humble opinion.
Sincerely
Jodie Lynn
KimberlyS
04-27-2006, 03:12 PM
Tamara please quit pulling your hair out. What a shame to do that to such lovely hair.
Ok I voted:
Moderate this section, so mods will decide what can and can't be posted
This section is called 'Ask the GG's' I don't want NON GG's answering
Because yes I agree it should be for GG's to answer only, unless the asker wants some input from others they should state that in their original post. Kinda like what MtF or FtM should do for their respective areas.
KimberlyS-CD
:happy: ;)
Tamara Croft
05-02-2006, 12:24 PM
As you can see, the poll is now closed. Like I said, the majority vote wins and this is how this section will be ran.
For all members to ask the GG's a question and ONLY GG's answer them - 39 votes
This section is called 'Ask the GG's' I don't want NON GG's answering - 27 votes
As the above 2 poll options are more or less the same, I did say they would be a combined vote. This section will continue to not allow non gg's to answer threads and they will be deleted. Thank you for all voting ;)
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