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lilly_nj
05-16-2006, 04:50 AM
Can anyone tell me what a male lesbian is?

Kate Simmons
05-16-2006, 05:52 AM
My guess would be a M T F CD who likes being intimate with other M T F CD's. Why? Know any? Ericka

Karren H
05-16-2006, 06:38 AM
AKA Trans-lesbians

Love Karren

Maddie
05-16-2006, 06:47 AM
Hi
As far as i am concerned it it a MTF that only likes sex with a female in either mode

IE i am straight and gay because i only want to be intimate with women

but thats just me:love:

KathyT
05-16-2006, 06:49 AM
I doubt there is a definition of male lesbian. This is a phrase that is made up, sorta like a straight male that likes ********.

Billie Jean
05-16-2006, 12:50 PM
I agree with Maddie, a male lesbian is a mtf that only likes females for sexual pleasure

CaptLex
05-16-2006, 01:30 PM
Can anyone tell me what a male lesbian is?
Well, when I hear that term I think of Eddie Izzard, because he calls himself that.

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Izzard describes himself as an 'executive' or 'action' transvestite and as 'a male tomboy'. He regularly cross-dresses both on and off stage and makes it clear that cross-dressing is, for him, not a sexual thing – he simply enjoys wearing make-up and clothing which is traditionally perceived in the West as female-only. He dismisses claims that he is homosexual, saying he is either a straight transvestite or a "male lesbian". He has also described himself as "a lesbian trapped in a man's body", but this is not generally taken to mean that he actually identifies as a transgender lesbian.

gennee
05-16-2006, 06:34 PM
If I transitioned I'd probably be a male lesbian, too.

Gennee

Eric/a
05-16-2006, 06:54 PM
In different forums, chat rooms, etc., I've seen it defined as a man who wishes he were a woman - loves to dress the part, act it, live it, etc. - and would still only be attracted to women, even if he could become one.

They've probably got (arguably:D ) the hardest job of anybody as far as finding an SO goes. They've got no chance with women who want a "man's man," they don't get attracted to guys, and most GG lesbians want GGs, pure n' simple, so who's left?

LucyTwitch
05-16-2006, 07:04 PM
Hi

A M T F who only enjoys the itimate company of GG's, Just like me.

Love
Lucy

Veronica E. Scott
05-16-2006, 07:46 PM
Hi

A M T F who only enjoys the itimate company of GG's, Just like me.

Love
Lucy


I couldn't agree more if I had said it myself.

Teresa Amina
05-16-2006, 07:58 PM
In different forums, chat rooms, etc., I've seen it defined as a man who wishes he were a woman - loves to dress the part, act it, live it, etc. - and would still only be attracted to women, even if he could become one.

They've probably got (arguably:D ) the hardest job of anybody as far as finding an SO goes. They've got no chance with women who want a "man's man," they don't get attracted to guys, and most GG lesbians want GGs, pure n' simple, so who's left?

Gee, really liked that first paragraph, thought it was spot on. Then you went and got me depressed with the second one!:(

JulieCDOH
05-16-2006, 07:58 PM
I guess I am a male lesbian too. Even en femme, I love those gg's

Kisses Julie:love:

CharlaineCadence
05-16-2006, 09:02 PM
I guess I waould have to say that at this point in my transition that i'm a male lesbian because I am a ts and only attracted to women for relationships.

Billijo49504
05-16-2006, 11:04 PM
I only get the hots for only one GG, the one that has been with me for 21 years...BJ

Neith.goddess
05-16-2006, 11:16 PM
Eddie Izzard is so funny...

I love his jokes...ive seen him a few times, and I want to see his dress to kill act again..

I consider myself a male lesbain...

I prefer females, both dressed and not

susiej
05-17-2006, 12:20 AM
We have met the male lesbian, and she is us.

Hugs,
Susie

Sally2
05-17-2006, 12:58 AM
A male lesbian is a M to F CD with transexual tendencies whose alternate ego got miswired into thinking that (s)he really likes the same things in the hetero world as well as the TG world. Hey, this definition is as good as any. Sally2

AngelAshley
05-17-2006, 04:21 AM
It's one of those phrases that doesn't have a direct & solid meaning, and, as prooven by all the different responses to this thread, everyone will have their own perception of what it means.

By definition, to be a lesbian, one has to be female. Even this is ambiguous - as we all know, there are many different ways one can identify themselves as female.

If you take the phrase 'male lesbian' litrally, i.e. you take male to be male, one who is geneticly male and identifies themselves fully as a male, then this phrase clearly makes no sense.

Josette
05-17-2006, 05:07 AM
In different forums, chat rooms, etc., I've seen it defined as a man who wishes he were a woman - loves to dress the part, act it, live it, etc. - and would still only be attracted to women, even if he could become one.

They've probably got (arguably:D ) the hardest job of anybody as far as finding an SO goes. They've got no chance with women who want a "man's man," they don't get attracted to guys, and most GG lesbians want GGs, pure n' simple, so who's left?

This desribes me all right Josette

Joy Carter
05-17-2006, 05:08 AM
Marcy Bower a well know transsexual surgeon who does SRS's is in a lesbian relationship with a GG lesbian, Kinda the way I'd feel as well. :D PS Marcy is a TS.

celeste26
05-17-2006, 07:03 AM
I'm sorry but this whole idea of a male lesbian is a lie.

Lesbians are GG they grew up as gg, will continue to be gg, they cannot put on and take off their role as women like us CDers. Within that context they love women sexually and exclusively. Anything less is an offense to those REAL lesbians out there who have earned their label.

GM's have a "normal" attraction to females, it does not make them lesbians regardless of how they chose to dress. Let us not get into the debate of what is normal at this point.

Sorry this concept of a "male lesbian" is hilarious if it weren't so outrageous. Eddie Izzard may use it for humorous results but that doesn't make it true.

flatlander_48
05-17-2006, 09:01 AM
Can anyone tell me what a male lesbian is?

You know, only in a transgendered crossdressing kind of world could such a contradiction exist...

CaptLex
05-17-2006, 07:38 PM
I'm sorry but this whole idea of a male lesbian is a lie.

Lesbians are GG they grew up as gg, will continue to be gg, they cannot put on and take off their role as women like us CDers. Within that context they love women sexually and exclusively. Anything less is an offense to those REAL lesbians out there who have earned their label.

GM's have a "normal" attraction to females, it does not make them lesbians regardless of how they chose to dress. Let us not get into the debate of what is normal at this point.

Sorry this concept of a "male lesbian" is hilarious if it weren't so outrageous. Eddie Izzard may use it for humorous results but that doesn't make it true.
Well, I believe that if Eddie Izzard (or any other TG) believes himself to be a male lesbian, he has the right to say so and anyone who can't relate to what he's feeling has no right to call it offensive. Having read hundreds of his interviews where he really tries to get outsiders to understand trans issues, I doubt very much he does it for humorous effect. You may not feel as he does, but that doesn't make his feelings any less valid. 0.02

AngelAshley
05-18-2006, 08:10 AM
I sort of agree with both of the above posts, although more with CaptLex's...

Yes, the idea of 'male lesbian' is strange since to be a lesbian you need to be female, however I disagree that you genes and 'normal' attraction have anything to do with it.

I am fully transitioning to a female, and I am attracted to females. Therefore I identify myself as a lesbian.

Helen MC
05-19-2006, 03:08 AM
On ITV "This Morning" today there is such a person appearing. They were a heterosexual man who had GRS then took up with a woman in a Lesbian relationship. I will watch it and perhaps other UK posters may find it of interest.

Eugenie
05-19-2006, 05:02 AM
I have met and worked with a transsexual MtF very engaged in the LGBT movement, who was in the process of getting married to a genetic women.

They experienced some quite difficult episodes as mariage between gays was not allowed in the country where they were residing.

But in this case one can no longer speaking of "male lesbian" as my friend was a transsexual having had complete sexual reassignment.

Love.

Eugenie

lilly_nj
05-19-2006, 05:13 AM
So, by all those replys I guess I'm a male lesbian since I am attracted to GGs no matter how I'm dressed. But, does this discussion make my SO BI since she is attracted to me dressed as a man OR a women????????

CaptLex
05-19-2006, 01:35 PM
A male lesbian is a misnomer. It actually doesn't exist. What it is, is a man who thinks he's a woman and has sex with a woman. My belief is that by calling yourself that will only further confuse your wife.
That may be true in the CD spectrum, but how many CD's can actually speak for those that are TS? I just think that it's for some that identify with this, and those that can't relate, just can't relate.