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Mz_Jenny
06-15-2006, 07:05 AM
Hi girls,
I'd just like to ask why people come out as crossdressers at older ages like 40's and 50's. Was it really so hard to come out in your 20's or younger and why? I'm 24 and I havn't had that much of a problem being a crossdresser and coming out.
KateW
06-15-2006, 07:08 AM
I assume it's because people care a lot more what their peers think when they are younger. I'm in my 20's and have only really been comfortable with it for a few years. I think also that the internet helps a great deal, and people in their 40s and 50s wouldn't have had access to the same community support and information that we enjoy now.
Emily Ann Brown
06-15-2006, 07:16 AM
B I N G O !!!!!!!!!
The world has changed in the last 30 years....we have gone from being the Lone Ranger to 1 in 100 men. Many of us would love to have our youth back again. And many of us have so much to lose being over 25 and established that it takes us a long time to get so miserable that we are willing to give it all up to be who we are.
Emily Ann
MsEva
06-15-2006, 07:22 AM
Yup and Yup! Two very wise women...hit it right on the nail!
Gurly
06-15-2006, 07:23 AM
Most of us in our 40's and 50's have by now long-established families (children, grandchildren) and working relationships. No matter how strong the impulse of crossdressing is, you have to consider how it will affect your immediate and potential extended families. It can be an EXTREMELY DIFFICULT thing to do.
Kate Simmons
06-15-2006, 07:55 AM
Plus in my case, I had a young family to raise and care for. Had to be the 'man" whether I wanted to be or not. Now that my children have grown and flown, I can be myself. Ericka
KirstyChibiMoon
06-15-2006, 07:57 AM
Hi girls,
I'd just like to ask why people come out as crossdressers at older ages like 40's and 50's. Was it really so hard to come out in your 20's or younger and why? I'm 24 and I havn't had that much of a problem being a crossdresser and coming out.
if u go back to when they were 20.... there wasn't such a thing as the WWW or internet!
now-a-days its alot easier to find support and info on crossdressing and transgenderism...
GypsyKaren
06-15-2006, 08:11 AM
Times have greatly changed over the years. I'm 53, and back when I was young and wondering why I felt like a was a girl, we didn't have anywhere to look for help, information, or support, we were on our own. Now we have the internet and the world at our fingertips, back then we were alone. I didn't know I was TS, or anything about it, until I read a Life magazine article on it in 1968. You couldn't exactly go to the library, or anywhere for that matter, and find information on the subject, because there wasn't any.
So what did we do? We hid in fear and shame, and built up walls to protect us from the world. Funny thing about walls, they're real easy to put up, but a bitch to tear down and clear away. We got comfortable behind them because we felt safe and protected, it became a way of life. All I can say is that old habits die hard.
People have a much different outlook on things that are different to them now. I live full time as a woman now without any problems at all, but I do remember the days when I was chased by gangs because I had long hair. Can you imagine the reactions and what would have happened if I tried living as a woman then? Gays were called fags then, and they were routinely beaten and killed, now they have their own hit TV shows and are celebrities. Things are just so different now, and for the better.
Even with all of that, the reason I finally came out had nothing to do with today's liberalism and open-mindedness, I just couldn't live a lie anymore, I had to try living as myself. The pressure had become to great, and I decided to take a chance and come out to be the real me. I still expected to be hated and ostricized, and lose family, friends, everything. I was willing to accept that, I expected the worse and hoped for the best. I knew things were different and such, but it's hard to teach an old dog new tricks. I decided that I didn't care what people think about me, I was going to go for it, because I felt if not now, then never.
Thankfully, things have been just great for me. I've found that those who loved me before still do, those who didn't still don't, and I don't care about them. Even with today's new attitudes and such, people don't understand it, but that's okay because I never did either. Most folks I come in contact with go out of their way to be kind to me because that's how I am to everyone. I'm just glad that you younger ones don't have to go through what we did. I know it's still a difficult road to be on, but it's a lot smoother now than when we were your age.
Karen
kathy gg
06-15-2006, 08:24 AM
I dont' know but that seems to be the way. I know when I was in my 20's and single and looking to date a crossdresser it was like looking for a needle in a haystack! I literally can count on my two hands the cd's who I knew were 'okay' with this and willing to meet or date someone into this. Most were so freaked out that even the 'idea' of an acepting girlfriend scared the bejeezus out of them!
My husband actually wrapped his head around all this when he was like age 30/31 and started making an effort to be comfortable and secure with himself.
I have had several younger gg friends express an interest in dating a cd {like my husband..cool/cute/sexually-gender secure} and for the life of me I coudl not find an available cd in their age range!
But regardless it is great that you personally are in a good headspace. Good for you!!!!!!! :thumbsup:
kwebb
06-15-2006, 08:36 AM
Times have changed but then again sometimes I wonder have they really changed for the better.
I'm reading the autobiography of Christine Jorgensen right now. When she got off that plane back in America in the 50s she got an awful lot of positive vibes.
She got some negativity too but according to her, the postivie far outweighed it. And this was the 1950s folks. And even though she was TS and not CD, she still was TG.
She became a national celeb. Got all sorts of awards and offers. People and society on the whole was far more intriqued by her than they were hateful. Out of the tens of thousands of letters she received, only approximately 40 were hate-filled. She had no idea the story would break like it did but handled it with confidence ,grace and dignity. She knew that God/Universe had designed her as It saw fit, and walked proudly in that knowledge.
I've seen various other aritcles in maistream press as early as 1952, glorifiying gender-bending pageants and balls that I KNOW I'd never see today in those same mags concerning the same subject matter.
What the hell happened? Even in the 70s, Donahue, Sally were doing intelligent shows about it, not this Springer trash.
Again I say, what the hell happened?! If there was gonna be any kind of revolution, sadly I think it should have happened then, by today we would be reaping its rewards.
So IMHO, we have and continue to go backwards as a society. Its sad. I think the revolution should have occured during that brief window in time when Jorgensen was getting all of the press, she opened up a door and TGs missed an important moment to walk thru it.
But I was not there and can only report what I have read. Any older TGs care to give an opine?
Kieron Andrew
06-15-2006, 08:46 AM
im in my 20s and came out last year so not everyone is over 40+, and i think you will find most of the FTMs if not all were under 40 when they came out
SherriePall
06-15-2006, 08:48 AM
Things were different when I was young. About the only CD's (?) you saw was Milton Berle (and was he?) on TV. Of course, Christine was a curosity and occasionally you read about drag queens, but they were, for the most part, gay. And if you weren't, it confused you even more.
Plus, if you grew up in a really small town, it made it worse. There was no internet, no gender radio, no documentaries on network television (of course, there were few cable stations at that time, too.).
Each of us thought we were the only ones. There were exceptions who went out dressed, but most of us never heard about them until the INTERNET and search engines.
Plus there were other reasons which have been mentioned in other posts here.
So, please, don't think that we were wimps or something like that because the times were different.
GypsyKaren
06-15-2006, 08:53 AM
Christine Jorgensen became a celeb because the press made her one, perhaps that's why she enjoyed some level of protection. Like I said, I remember the days of being jumped for having long hair, hell, I once got jumped for wearing bell bottoms because they were considered femmish.
As far as TV goes, it was just as trashy then as it is today, the only difference being the censors are all out to lunch now. I remember Donahue's shows on the subject, they were quite condenscending. I do remember seeing Merv Griffin do a show on it, he handled it with class and dignity.
As far as a revolution goes, perhaps we had a quiet one. All I know is that I go everywhere as a woman now, and yes I do get read, yet I've never had any problems. I've even ended up in places I wouldn't go as a guy and made it out in one piece. The key for me is to treat everyone with politeness, courtesy, and respect, and I always get the same in return.
Karen
Ranee Daze
06-15-2006, 09:43 AM
Gurly has it right. We all have to consider our place in our social and family network. Real harm can be done. Plus, it is just a whole lot more fun to selfishly keep our little mistresses to ourselves.
Sharon86
06-15-2006, 09:55 AM
all great answers, and i wish i had a £1 for every time my wife said " i wish you had told me about your CD'ing when we first met". Now we've been trying to catch up with 15+ years of wondering how Sharon would have gone through life, but it has been fun:D Sharon.
Rickie
06-15-2006, 10:05 AM
I remember once when I was 16 we went to a rodeo. Four of the cowboys caught me coming back from getting something from the snack bar. They tied me up and cut my hair off with a pocket knife. Now my hair was just shoulder length. So can you image trying to buy a dress back then or makeup. I'm 54 now, and I understand what Gypsy is saying.
Note on the hair just 2 years ago I had over 18" cut off. When I was wearing it 95% of the time I got complaints on how it looked. So I know there been a big change in that area at least.
MsJanessa
06-15-2006, 10:15 AM
Hi girls,
I'd just like to ask why people come out as crossdressers at older ages like 40's and 50's. Was it really so hard to come out in your 20's or younger and why? I'm 24 and I havn't had that much of a problem being a crossdresser and coming out.
and what's wrong with being over 40? lol
Deborah
06-15-2006, 10:23 AM
Well i just turned 36 and back in the old days when we didn't have seat belts in cars or playstations. We also didn't have this thing called the internet to get support from others like you young whipper snappers do now.
Now where's my cane i have to hobble up to the store to get some Ben-Gay. It's 10 miles up hill both ways don't you know?
Karren H
06-15-2006, 10:24 AM
B I N G O !!!!!!!!!
The world has changed in the last 30 years....we have gone from being the Lone Ranger to 1 in 100 men. Many of us would love to have our youth back again. And many of us have so much to lose being over 25 and established that it takes us a long time to get so miserable that we are willing to give it all up to be who we are.
Emily Ann
Hey!! Watch who your calling miserable Lady!! Hehehe. And I may be over 40 but Karren's not!!
Love Karren
Teresa Amina
06-15-2006, 10:50 AM
Again I say, what the hell happened?! If there was gonna be any kind of revolution, sadly I think it should have happened then, by today we would be reaping its rewards.
What happened was counter-revolution. The right wing nutbags rode in with Ronnie Reagan and are dying hard. But it's a matter of two steps forward, one step back. Things are going the right way, but the Loonie Right has the money to be heard and the glibness to be believed so we've been sliding popular-culture wise. Have hope! Here we are, after all, communicating with each other instantaneously around the world, no longer the isolated individuals of the past.
So why are we over 40? Like others have said, we built our walls and sham lives to hide behind because it seemed the only way to survive. How long can you really hide from yourself? Two, three, maybe even four decades for we really fearful types. But you're always in there, and you know it. For me it took a personal disaster of the first magnitude to make the walls irreparable. Here I am, 50 year old guy on the outside but the much younger Teresa through and through.
maid phylis
06-15-2006, 01:35 PM
Hi girls,
I'd just like to ask why people come out as crossdressers at older ages like 40's and 50's. Was it really so hard to come out in your 20's or younger and why? I'm 24 and I havn't had that much of a problem being a crossdresser and coming out.
hi girl my name is phylisanne and i am one of those old girls who have just come out within the last few years .the answer to your question is that lucky for you ,you are living in the age of computers ans an open society.in my 20s which were the 60s we didnt have this great crossdressers .com to talk to all the girls around the world and find out that there are others like me out there .when i found out about cdi in new york and went to a first meeting i never would have been able to be going out and finally expressing my desires to dress and feel like a woman ,back then if you put on a dress you would probably have been shot or something less terrible.for you today you could for instance if you lived in new york city come to our cd group become a member and come ,dress and have a great time with all the girls in our group.and probably as you are still a kid go out dressed with us to all the great things we do in new york city.well enjoy yourself and have a ball..love phylisanne:love:
Brianna Lovely
06-15-2006, 02:10 PM
With the posts by the other girls, the internet has opened doors for many of us.
Although some people may not agree with me, I think the "gay movement" had a lot to do with some of the changes that have taken place.
A brief quote from wikipedia:
"Prior to 1965, the police would sometimes record the identities of all those present at the raids, which on some occasions was published in newspapers. At the time, the police used any number of reasons they could think of to justify an arrest on indecency charges including: kissing, holding hands, wearing clothing traditionally of the opposite gender, or even being in the bar during the raid."
You may want to check out the info at the below link.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stonewall_riots
Hugs,
Brianna
Khriss
06-15-2006, 02:16 PM
or "in" the scheme ..the history of female mimicry or drag queens , has been around a long long time , Flip Wilson as Geraldene or "Uncle Miltie" and many great British "Dames" may have softened the image of a man in a dress, but the humor was generally at some gender's expense and not very complimentary.. and issues of a man actualy desiring to dress that way was and still seems catagorized as a sort of sexual perversion so far, by too many (misinformed) people . Some might see Ru Paul and form opinions, while a film like Trans America could open more eyes to some truths ...
I'm not sure..but in my life as a "crossdresser" , I know the internet and this site, have helped me find more peace ...with "who I am " denying perhaps all the times of feeling alone and alienated ..during most of my ( "TV" ? ) life.
...and I'm beyond my youth now .. but greatfull in many ways ! :thumbsup: xx"K"
Jasmine Ellis
06-15-2006, 02:21 PM
Be in our high heels now and then think back to 25 years, ago. You should get the picture. And I'm 45 now.
Tina Dixon
06-15-2006, 02:23 PM
20 or 30 years ago you were a freak with a fetish, things are bit different now.
Amelie
06-15-2006, 03:00 PM
I came out when I was in my teens, and this was back in the seventies. I didn't wait for Al Gore to invent the internet in order to come out.
I am 26. I feel that it is a lot easier today for many reasons.
The internet helps. :hugs: CD's tend to be a secretive bunch, and unlike other out or fringe identity scenes we have never made any load sounds about the discrimination. Well, especially in the UK.
I am speaking as a young'un here. So I could be wrong
Jannette H
06-15-2006, 03:44 PM
It's much much easier now than in the 60s. You could be beat up or worse. They thought we were sick or had a medical proublem I'll talk about that later
Jannette:straightface:
tekla west
06-15-2006, 04:04 PM
I went to my first drag bar in 1980, joined ETVC support group in 1981. Long before anyone heard of the Net. SF/NYC have had such bars since WWII at least. It was a lot more trouble to find them. And needless to say they weren't in the best sections of town. (I remember my first trip to the Black Rose, I wasn't worried about being caught, I was worried about being killed, robbed, whatever.)
Like so many things, being black, being a woman with a job, being a Cubs fan, minorities are no longer on the outside looking in. Also, behavior deals like being gay, Rainbow Nation counterculture stuff, or voting Republican, marginal social behavior is tolerated in a much greater degree now than it was pre-WWII. The reasons for that are book length, so I will skip them. Just suffice it to say its been a gradual breaking of the damn over the past half century (At least in the industrial West).
From what I see a lot of the girls here don't go out, and this becomes their outlet, and no doubt the internet has allowed all sorts of people who thought they were alone to reach out and touch each other. (Google "FURRY" and see what I mean, yeesh, people think we are nuts.) This is a good thing. And by the time we hit these tender years its become obvious that its not going to go away, you didn't outgrow it, therapy didn't help, drugs didn't destroy it, you couldn't give it up for love - So... What the hell? Might as well sit back and enjoy it. These pages and posts are a way of doing that for a lot of people here.
I work with a lot of groups that have a lot of younger members, like LYRIC, and girls, these boys DON'T NEED the internet. They have grown up in a much different climate and are much more open - and out an about. Also - they are here (on the net) its just different sites where they are in touch with people who are more like them in a generational sense. I can quote the Rolling Stones in here and most of the girls know where it came from, but if I quoted Bright Eyes???? Besides do you really want to listen to crossdresser rap and hip-hop? Didn't think so.
Katiegirl
06-15-2006, 04:11 PM
As all the others have said we didn't have the internet when I was in my 20's and many of us had families and then we didn't dress in front of them.
When you reach 40 + you have in many cases less to lose and more confident to dress.
0.02
Deidra Cowen
06-15-2006, 04:33 PM
I honestly had no freaking clue that this stuff went on. Ok this is gross but true. The first time I ever really knew that transgendered stuff went on is when I was in my late 20s and saw a ******* Porn magazine in the locker room at work believe it or not. That was the 80s and guys had porn around before sexual harrashment laws and stuff. I knew I had femmy urges but just thought I was bi or gay...and I surpressed all that. Was scared I was a gay guy. Did not realize I really should have been a chick and somehow my brain is wired up wrong for the plumbing I got!!!
I still kinda just thought it was like 1 in a million deal and then it was a sleazy porn thing. But the internet came along and 5 or 6 years ago I started seeing stuff on the net then took a big interest of course. I saw there were cool girls like Renee Reyes, Brenda Glass in Atl, Briania Bryant and yes Eva from this forum that were not perverts and were accomplished people with successful lives.
I first dated some Tgirls with me being the guy :heehee: then last year said heck with it I am going to dress up. The rest is history. But out at the clubs in Atlanta I see lots of young Tgirls. They are exposed a lot earlier than I was and I envy that they are lining up their lives to be Tgirls a lot earlier than I am.
Not complaining however, the past year has been a very happy one for me. Right now due to needing to make a living I'm a guy during the day. But I'm a chick at night and on the weekends. Its a good balance and enough for now. Might go Fulltime when the kids go to college but who knows.
Sorry you hit my button with this thread and I went way too long on it. :p
janedoe311
06-15-2006, 06:39 PM
Because those younger have the advantage of youth with no responsibilities or commitments, ie wife and family. Some of us have been holding this in for decades so this is our release especially if we have no support from the wife.
This is why it is called gender confusion. It takes a while to figure out what is going on!
Nikki A.
06-15-2006, 06:49 PM
It is a different world today. Then we did not have the info that is available now and views were not as enlightened as we think they are now.
If I were 20 today I might be more "open" about it and make my decisions in life differently. At this point with a family and other responsibilities I have to take little things and be content.
Enjoy the freedom that you have and keep in mind what you want in the future and make your choices accordingly.
Peace comes from within
ErikaLeigh
06-15-2006, 07:11 PM
In my case I grew up in a small redneck town. There was one guy there who was TS and didnt hide it in high school. He was ridiculed and so on, and even had to run for his life a few times, but held his/her ground. That being said, I wasnt about to be outed back then. Now that I am 39 and have had the internet the last 5 or so years to do the research, I have found out who and what I really am. And of course this website has helped me tremendously. I even met with a couple of "sisters" from the local tri-ess the other day thanks to this site. Now....If I was younger and new then what I know now.....things would most likely be a lot different for me.
Kathryn Philips
06-15-2006, 07:12 PM
After reading many bios on the net over the last few years I find that the typical CD describes how their interest in female clothes began at an age between 5 and 10. I am no different and remember playing a game where I swapped underwear with my female cousin. What I find is that for me, this "thing" has become stronger over the years. For many years I was content with the occasional opportunity to wear an item of clothing but when I turned 40 I realized that there was more to this and that part of me is a girl. It its then that I gave birth to Kattie, my female self. Soon after I told my wife with bad consequences but that is another story. In any case, I suppose something similar happens to other CDs and at some point the urge becomes so strong that one feels the need to stop keeping it secret. Maybe 40-50 is the typical age when this threshold is reached. CDs who come out in their 20s maybe have a lower threshold or the girl inside them 'grows' much faster. This is just my theory. But I agree, the Internet must surely have an impact on this.
Trisha
06-15-2006, 07:23 PM
im 21 just had a hard life lol no realy i was thinking i was the only one like this when i was young i am so glad im not and now my wife knows we do things together moor and even meet people too there are a lot of nice people out there and i think now life is good :thumbsup:
Sally24
06-15-2006, 08:33 PM
It's alot easier if you start early. Years ago, with little info and not much help it was very difficult to even decide what the problem was. Now there is so much more medical help (hormones, plastic surgury, and of course SRS) and even just retail help (just google crossdressing and see how many devices, pads, clothes, etc.. that you can buy) that you're not alone.
If you talked to most older CDs here I think you'd find that the majority had not talked to another person about this until a few years ago (maybe an exception for their SO). These message boards are making a very big difference for all of us, but especially I suspect for the closeted CD. Just knowing that there are many others out there makes a big difference on your outlook.
Good luck. Most of us would love to be able to have started in our 20's with CDing. If you think you might be TS, this is the time to explore that, not after you have established a male life and family. You might want to read "She's Not There" by Jennifer Boylan.
http://www.colby.edu/personal/j/jfboylan/
Adrienne Heels
06-15-2006, 08:42 PM
I'm 52 and just recently started dressing. I always had urges, but it wasn't until this year that I decided to give in totally. Sally24 is right in that this site in particular was a big reason for my deciding to dress. I really thought I was alone in my desires, and when I met all these wonderful ladies and read about the fun they had, I felt so good. And make no mistake, I do feel VERY good about myself and my desires to be a crossdresser. But I do wish I had started much earlier. It is so much fun!
kristytv
06-15-2006, 09:05 PM
kathy id love to have a girlfriend who would get into this with me, my search has been in vain as well, i am 29 btw ,this issue tends to scare most girls off
Kelli Taylor
06-15-2006, 09:17 PM
Hello mz. jenny,
I'm 36 so I think i'm still under the 40 mark but getting closer , although i'm having a blast doing my thing especially in a new city. So not all of us are not 40 and over. I like to think we paved the way for the younger people out there. hugs and kisses,
Kelli
inherundys
06-15-2006, 09:29 PM
Actually, before my wife and I were married in our 20's she suggested it, after catching my landlords teen aged daughter, whose boyfriend was dressed in her bra and panties having sex. My wife thought that was quite kinky and wanted to try it.
I had worn my mothers and grandmothers things before, but felt uncomfortable wearing my girlfriends things in front of her. Until now.:hugs:
Mz_Jenny
06-15-2006, 10:10 PM
Hey girls,
I'd just like to know what other members think their most femmine feature is?. My most femmine feature would probably be my hips, especially when wearing tight clothes. I'm fortunate to have a slim waist and look very slimming.
Jenny
elizabeth nicole
06-15-2006, 10:10 PM
Nothing wrong with being over 40 and just coming out,or admitting to what you are.Many of us here in the states had to put several years or more on hold while we did the military thing.Uncle Sam just didnt like it very much.so we had to put our urges on hold as much as we could.I also agree with the others over fort that the internet has opened up a whole new wolrd to us.We now know that we are not freaks or alone in the world .The only thing that kept me closely sane before retiring was that my ex did understand about my problem as she refered to it.I look at it as those of us that are older just laid the ground work for the younger ones coming along now.
Tina Dixon
06-15-2006, 10:11 PM
My little toe's are hot.
Eleanor
06-15-2006, 10:18 PM
Legs,feet,ass.
Stephenie S
06-15-2006, 10:19 PM
That would have to be my mind, girls. The rest of the package suffers by comparison. But my mind can soar.
Lovies,
Stephenie
trisha_anne
06-15-2006, 10:19 PM
My wife says I have very feminine legs and I would have to agree. I just wish I had to butt and hips to compliment them......oh well.
stef4955
06-15-2006, 10:20 PM
It seems like most everyone is in agreement......the internet has done wonders for the cd. I am 57 years young, and all I can say is thank God and the people that had the guts to come out and say "This is who I am....If you don't like it, its your problem, not mine" I try to be as beautiful a woman as I can when I am dressed,because thats how I feel inside, like the woman that I have been for so many years. May God bless all cd's for just being who they are. Stef4955
Melinda G
06-15-2006, 10:24 PM
When I was in my 20s and 30s, it was still illegal for a man to dress as a woman, in a lot of places. It was also considered queer, or gay.
KateW
06-15-2006, 10:25 PM
My most feminine feature is probably my shaped eyebrows. I must say though - I also have terrific man-boobs!
(. Y .)
Cherry Lynn
06-15-2006, 10:25 PM
My wife and several other GG's have said I have legs to die for so I guess my legs but I have gotten some compliments on my ass as well.
Mz_Jenny
06-15-2006, 10:25 PM
If you could have any item of femmine clothing what would it be? I've always wanted a nice ballroom dress. But I can't find one yet!
Jenny
Fallen Angel
06-15-2006, 10:31 PM
remeber 30 years ago there wasnt alot of info as there is now if you were lucky enough to be in the city like i was there was some places to venture out but in those days we were all classified as Dragg Qeens.Most of us hid in secret.there was no sisterhood like today.If you were one of the lucky ones that caught some ones eye they took you under there wing and that was few and far between !!.I think when you hit your late 30"s or so you also find that youve paved most of your own road.Meaning that you not as beholdent to people and youve become a little tougher and what may have hurt you when you were younger just doesnt seem to even bother you anymore.We us girls of 40 and plus have suffered to wounds of arrows shot by people who didnt understand us but we opend the doors for all you younger girls to be able to enjoy who you are xxxxxxxx's angel
Mz_Jenny
06-15-2006, 10:36 PM
Hey girls,
Don't you hate it when you walk with a skirt/dress and you can see the buldge. I've been thinking of different ways of hiding my balls/penis like using masking tape on your panties to tuck them back under you lol. If i'm wearing sexy tight jeans it's easir to hide but gota becareful and watch down their all the time to make sure it's not exposed. Maybe a hard cased panties made of plastic and was very close to your body would help..... anyone heard of something like that
Jenny
Fallen Angel
06-15-2006, 10:38 PM
they make a gaff for that and if you go into the argives here there's a topic on how to make one
KateW
06-15-2006, 10:39 PM
I'm not quite sure how to explain this, but some panties have a second layer of material in the crutch area, and it is sometimes possible to tuck your man-gina (Deuce Bigalow reference) into this fabric, and safely out of view.
KateW
06-15-2006, 10:45 PM
Well, I can never get enough tights! But being a bit more ambitious, I would love a really realistic wig or breast forms.
CarolDonna
06-15-2006, 10:45 PM
I see lots of good answers. I agree that 30 years ago things were much different, both in terms of tolerance and in terms of available information. Thirty years ago, as far as I knew, I was the only one like this. Oh, I could conceive of there being other cross dressers, but I had no idea there were as many as there actually are. Certainly, I can't think of a single person with who I would have been able to risk my secret back then.
There's still a huge stigma attached to it, but we know we aren't alone and we know there are a large number of people who will accept us. As was said in the previous post, we also have little to prove at this point in our lives. I care little of what people think about me on most things, cross dressing being the exception. I have come out to a few people, but I'm not willing to risk coming out to business associates and certain people with whom I have key relationships. I suppose a lot of this feeling is ingrained behavior, after hiding for so many years. I envy the new generations who are more free to express themselves without having to worry about the level of social stigma attached to behaviors such as cross dressing.
trisha_anne
06-15-2006, 10:48 PM
I found this site to be very helpful http://mattea.trans-woman.de/en/tucking.htm. I do this method and then put on a gaff and I can go around comfortably for hours and never show my "bulge".
Mz_Jenny
06-15-2006, 10:52 PM
Hey girls,
Have you ever been caught and if now how close where you to being caught crossdressing?
I was caught once putting red cherry nail polish on in my room.
And once again when I left my makeup on going to a friends place.
I'm out of the closet now though, so this is a qustion for those who are not out of the closet.
Jenny:p
Eric/a
06-15-2006, 11:00 PM
Here's (http://www.totallynecessary.com/product_info.php?cPath=122&products_id=1214) a good example of something I'd like to have! It's $130, plus $30 if you need it in size 13 or 14. They say a picture is worth a thousand words, so...since I've written about 45, maybe this is worth the other 955!
GG Vanya
06-15-2006, 11:03 PM
if you're willing to wear hard plastic panties, there's another option, from days of old...the cast iron chastity belt. :D
Tina Dixon
06-15-2006, 11:05 PM
if you're willing to wear hard plastic panties, there's another option, from days of old...the cast iron chastity belt. :D
My I love your thinking:love:
Mz_Jenny
06-15-2006, 11:11 PM
I've seen that not all crossdressers are alike. Some dress in public some do it part time some do it full time some just do it at home in secret. I am just wondering, when you wear femmine clothes, does it have to be a dress/skirt to feel more femmine?
How do others feel about this?
Jenny
michelle19845
06-15-2006, 11:17 PM
i have been here for around a year.dressed since 12.good times you bet.
Mz_Jenny
06-15-2006, 11:28 PM
Do you sleep crossdressed? I wear a white nighty and panties. It's so comfortable but I hate taking it off in the morning.
Jenny:love:
Marlena Dahlstrom
06-15-2006, 11:33 PM
Was it really so hard to come out in your 20's or younger and why?
As others have mentioned, it was very different world in the 1970s and early 1980s. No internet, no email, no texting, most cities had only three TV channels -- oh yeah, and no videogames (they were just startin to hit the arcades). So needless to say finding out that there might be other people like you in the world wasn't exactly easy.
At most, one might have seen she-male porn (assuming you lived somewhere where you could find a porn shop), but for me at least, that was something different. I didn't want to be a woman, I just wanted to pretend I was one from time to time.
Plus, others have said, the social climate was very different. Gays had only come out of the closet after Stonewall in 1969 and homophobia was still quite open. When I in high school, just wearing a pink polo shirt (popularized by the preppie revival) was enough to start rumors -- and this was in LA, not exactly redneck country.
Mz_Jenny
06-15-2006, 11:35 PM
Why do we like wearing bra's? most women hate them. Perhaps it's to feel more femmine.
Jenny:love:
Melissa73
06-15-2006, 11:40 PM
ive been caught many times, growing up...and it was all equally quite a shock. But recently, i was at walmart doing some shopping. I had a pink girly nightgown in my cart, when a friend of mine (whom works there) approached. i acknowldged him and kept going (but i know he saw it in my cart......) I havent spoken to or seen him since then, so i dont know what he thinks.......
Sarah Rabbit
06-15-2006, 11:41 PM
I use 'Blue Tac'. Better for skin as it is Non-Alergenic :D
Sarah R. :bunny:
sharon2
06-15-2006, 11:42 PM
wearing a bra to me is the most important part of crossdressing.i love wearing
my bra as often as possible.
KateW
06-15-2006, 11:44 PM
A skirt and tights combo does it for me!
Mz_Jenny
06-15-2006, 11:57 PM
Hey girls,
Does anyone consider themselves or use the words 'Bi-sexual when crossdressed'? in describing yourself?
A curious thought.
Jenny:love:
Joanie B
06-16-2006, 12:00 AM
Hey girls,
Does anyone consider themselves or use the words 'Bi-sexual when crossdressed'? in describing yourself?
A curious thought.
Jenny:love:
Hi Jenny,
Yes, I consider my male side strictly hetero, but when dressed I am attracted to gentlemen, ladies, and some other TG's....so I guess that makes me Bi....
Hugs,
Joanie B.
tgnikki
06-16-2006, 12:23 AM
Yes, When Im dressed I am feel that Im attracted to men, so they tell me so..I guess that make me "BI"
Love, Nikki:heehee:
Bootgirl
06-16-2006, 12:48 AM
when im dressed its cute guys only
Wenda
06-16-2006, 12:50 AM
Nope. But bi ladies have been very friendly to me.
VeronicaMoonlit
06-16-2006, 01:09 AM
http://www.crossdressers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32694
Veronica
Rondelle (Ron) Rogers Jr.
JoannaDees
06-16-2006, 01:38 AM
Hey girls,
Don't you hate it when you walk with a skirt/dress and you can see the buldge. I've been thinking of different ways of hiding my balls/penis like using masking tape on your panties to tuck them back under you lol. If i'm wearing sexy tight jeans it's easir to hide but gota becareful and watch down their all the time to make sure it's not exposed. Maybe a hard cased panties made of plastic and was very close to your body would help..... anyone heard of something like that
Jenny
Yes, a gaff will do it. Or you could proudly display your CDism. Depends. Sometimes its gril, somtimes it's gruyl. Oh wow, just coined a new term ... gruyl. I'm so smart ... or goofy ... depends ... on ... DanaJ ... tee hee.
JoannaDees
06-16-2006, 01:41 AM
For me, it's all in the mind. I can be all decked out, or just a few things. Either way, i't my state of mind, am I Joanna or not? LIke I said, internal state of mind.
Joy Carter
06-16-2006, 02:20 AM
Just in a perpetual state of Joyousness these days Oh what was the question again I seamed to have dropped my marbles. :daydreaming:
sarah35
06-16-2006, 02:30 AM
I love caual wear slacks,jeans blouses,etc,etc dont get me wrong though I really do love all the sexy pretty things to:hugs:
Angie G
06-16-2006, 02:34 AM
I'ts git to be my legs and maybe ay ass. :heehee:
Angie G
Joy Carter
06-16-2006, 02:39 AM
I'm right brained ...No that would be left brained....No I was right the first time right brained....aw I'm just dizzy brained and that's my biggest fem part.:D
Lilith Moon
06-16-2006, 02:42 AM
My heart
Helen MC
06-16-2006, 02:47 AM
Yes, even in the hot weather I wear a pair of knicks (panties) in bed
older not wiser
06-16-2006, 02:48 AM
Hi girls, For me its' a bra, pantyhose and panties!!!! This is not withstanding a skirt, blouse and heels. But lingerie REALLY does for me.
Love; BonnieAnne:GE:
Joy Carter
06-16-2006, 02:54 AM
Panties except for when showering.
Helen MC
06-16-2006, 02:56 AM
The one female outfit I always wanted as a teenager was a First Communion Dress. As we were not Roman Catholics my sister Anne did not have one of these although Theresa an RC cousin did. I would have loved to have tried on her outfit, which was just like a minature bride's dress but the opportunity didn't arise although I did "borrow" a pair of her panties. Now I am older I could easily buy one but of course it would not fit a plump 53 year old "matron" would it.
See the picture it would come with a veil and a white covered prayerbook or missal.
sarah35
06-16-2006, 02:59 AM
when I leave the house I leave dressed as a man but I never leave unless
I have on panties somtimes I wear a bra under my shirt when I go out but
I always sleep in something fem it dosnt feel right unless I do.
love sarah:hugs:
Joy Carter
06-16-2006, 03:04 AM
Hmmm so many dresses so little time, I guess it would be one of those high fashion numbers from the late fifties pouffy skirt with a wide open boat neck collar and that shinny kind of stripped fabric they used back then. Some gorgeous slender high heels in black patent. Now you got me going again shame on you Sis.:D
Joy Carter
06-16-2006, 03:05 AM
Trisha what about removing the tape ?
joaniieann
06-16-2006, 03:30 AM
Having 2 or 3 cheerleading outfits. Each for a special team.
AngelAshley
06-16-2006, 03:56 AM
if you're willing to wear hard plastic panties, there's another option, from days of old...the cast iron chastity belt.
'Days of Old'? I take it you haven't seen today's modern belts then?!
Some of the male designs might work for hiding your 'bits'. The CB-2000 and CB-3000 are a fairly popular design, but might not work well for this purpose. There are many other designs, check out www.lockmeup.com for a wealth of chastity info. I'm sure I've seen belts which would be great for hiding your stuff...
Roshanak
06-16-2006, 04:15 AM
Yes :) chiffon nighty. the feeling is great.
Kate Simmons
06-16-2006, 04:44 AM
Ericka occupies my bed every night Hon, in her nightie.
Kate Simmons
06-16-2006, 04:50 AM
It's the old "hide in plain sight" trick. I usually wear loose fitting dresses or pants as I dance a lot. For those "special" tight clothes occasions, however, I wear my latex ......(don't wanna say it) so it looks like a real one. Hope that's not too "tacky". Ericka
Kate Simmons
06-16-2006, 04:54 AM
Don't have to be wearing anything in particular. For me, it's total mindset. Ericka
Kate Simmons
06-16-2006, 04:55 AM
My eyes are what make me as Ericka.
Kate Simmons
06-16-2006, 04:57 AM
Unisexual. Ericka
Kate Simmons
06-16-2006, 05:03 AM
Practicality Jen, need something to put my BF's in. Ericka
Clare
06-16-2006, 05:09 AM
Why do we like wearing bra's? most women hate them.Yes, my ex wife used to take her's off at the end of hot Summer days especially. I guess it comes down to the fact that we wear a bra when we want too, but women have to wear them daily for obvious reasons and as my ex used to say, they can get very uncomfortable over extended periods.
Clare
06-16-2006, 05:16 AM
Here I am at 8-15pm online in CD.com in male sweats and feeling femme. Why? because I wearing an expensive perfume right now and it makes me feel girly! That's all it takes sometimes!
Phyliss
06-16-2006, 05:18 AM
It's really funny in a way about this subject. Women get home and just can't wait to "rip that baby off" , we get home and just can't wait to "harness up"
I guess I enjoy it because as another thread mentioned, "There's always something there to remind me" That and I kinda "need one" actually it feels quite comfortable most of the time. But then, I haven't HAD to wear one for the past 50 years.
I would have to say that REXY'S legs are her best part !!!:happy:
nishababe
06-16-2006, 05:27 AM
:love: In any order ( I think !!) ,my curvy feminine hips and bum ,soft blue feminine eyes,long natural eye lashes,feminine face, slim waist and lastly I have a very soft and understanding nature ,oh I forgot the last part my friends say and I agree hehehe that I am the most kind and generous person that they have ever known !! I also seem to be a permanant therapist for all my many friends all over the world ,mainly women .Having so much female in me but part male logic ,I seem to give very good advice on most subjects .Sorry for not following the rules and picking one physical part ,but what the heck !!
Love from '' Thoughtfull'' Nisha the ''Babe''xxxx:love:
Toni Shelton
06-16-2006, 05:43 AM
My legs, baby. :gorgeous:
Karren H
06-16-2006, 05:45 AM
Hey girls,
I'd just like to know what other members think their most femmine feature is?. My most femmine feature would probably be my hips, especially when wearing tight clothes. I'm fortunate to have a slim waist and look very slimming.
Jenny
LEGS and SMILE
Love Karren
nishababe
06-16-2006, 05:49 AM
:love: I mostly always sleep in one of my lovely silky nighties,pretty panties,sometimes stockings as well .Just feels sooooooooo good ,sexy and girly .Because I have my own house I can freely walk about as I want and I love seeing my clothes and panties all laid out so neatly for me to chose what ever I wish to wear ,along with all my perfumes ,make up and general female clutter no need to live a lie ..............ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh sheer bliss
Love from ''Senuous'' Nisha the ''Babe'' xxx:love:
Lawren
06-16-2006, 06:15 AM
Definitely my legs.
Kate Simmons
06-16-2006, 06:21 AM
Jen, I could also add my mind, brain and spirit. Without them, I wouldn't be able to create myself anew every day. Everything else follows that. Ericka
VERONICARH
06-16-2006, 06:31 AM
What makes me feel more femme is pantyhose, mini-skirt and highheels.
Betty H
06-16-2006, 06:39 AM
Shaved legs and painted toes
Nikki Dee
06-16-2006, 06:39 AM
Hey girls,
Does anyone consider themselves or use the words 'Bi-sexual when crossdressed'? in describing yourself?
A curious thought.
Jenny:love:
Nothing too uncommon in that, I would have thought..though I have witnessed quite a lot of denial about it.!!..I guess in truth it's like many other things in life...some do...some don't.!
Nikki. x
Bernadette
06-16-2006, 06:42 AM
I agree with Ericka. I do not have to dress to feel a different way.
Nikki Dee
06-16-2006, 06:43 AM
have done it...liked it.!!...but the downside is I didn't get enough sleep.!!!!!
Nikki. x
Teresa Amina
06-16-2006, 06:43 AM
While I sometimes get by with just walking around the house in heels (like yesterday) there are three things I "Gotta" have to feel "Right"- my curvy hips from Veronica, my nice boobs (forms) and my Hair (wig). OK, I guess that's really five things since there are two forms and a bra to keep them in position, but the point is that for me now it's the shape that matters, what I wear over that is just extra.:happy:
Nikki Dee
06-16-2006, 06:46 AM
My imagination...unchecked.!!!!
Love Nikki. x
Emma England
06-16-2006, 06:46 AM
A bra is classed as a female only garment.
If you want to behave like a woman, that is an essential part of your clothing.
Also, when seeing a matching bra and panties, it is so tempting to buy both together.
KateW
06-16-2006, 06:47 AM
I just wear a nightie to bed. When I was younger though I got caught fully dressed... horrible experience!
Bernadette
06-16-2006, 06:48 AM
This company has a vagina that captures all essentials in one place.
KateW
06-16-2006, 06:50 AM
I agree with both Phyliss and Emma England's comments. You can always feel that you are wearing a bra, and it is a unique garment meant for a women's anatomy, making it a must-have item!
Eugenie
06-16-2006, 06:52 AM
For me, wearing a bra is basically to push up my breasts and make me look more feminine.
I have managed to grow some breasts (see some pics of me in the picture galery) and wearing a bra is an element of confort. Actually when I run and when I'm not "en femme", without a bra, I find the bouncing of my breasts rather disagreable, while when I'm wearing a bra, this bouncing is far more confortable.
:hugs:
Eugenie
Emma England
06-16-2006, 06:54 AM
When I first tried a bra on (my mother's) at 13 or 14, I felt sooo mature.
I can understand young genuine girls getting excited about wearing a bra that only adults wear.
Yes, I want to feel like a grown-up woman as well!!
Emma England
06-16-2006, 07:01 AM
I am 31, and still in the closet.
People (the young especially) are self-conscious about admitting that they crossdress.
By the time people reach their 40s, the think what the hell, and maybe come out.
Like others have said, the internet makes it easier to talk.
randi_789
06-16-2006, 07:04 AM
Maybe its just me but I never seem to have a problem with hiding my bulge. I simply wear a tight fitting pair of panties, tuck my member back between my legs and pull them up tight. Then a pair of control top pantyhose to further secure them. Tight jeans or skirt, nothing ever shows.
randi_789
06-16-2006, 07:07 AM
my legs I think...see avatar
Eugenie
06-16-2006, 07:12 AM
From a physical point of view it is my cleavage... Click here (http://www.crossdressers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28488) (comments appreciated: that's the only way to make progress)
My legs aren't pretty and I'm somewhat on the plump side. But that is also the secret of my cleavage...:D
:hugs:
Eugenie
Teresa Amina
06-16-2006, 07:12 AM
BustleBustleBustleBustleBustleBustle- got the foundations, just need the dress now-BustleBustleBustleBustleBustleBustle:happy:
Karren H
06-16-2006, 07:21 AM
Yes! When on a business trip, I'm always enfemme when ever I'm not at a mine.....Eat, sleep, shop, all enfemme. After a hard day crawling around underground, nothing better than slipping into something silky and fem.
Love Karren
sharifemme
06-16-2006, 07:23 AM
Guess I'm lucky I don't have this problem. Mine are just big enough to do their intended jobs and pretty much disappear when I wear panties, pantyhose, and a girdle.
Sharon86
06-16-2006, 07:25 AM
atleast 5 nights a wek and i wear a nighty also.:D Sharon.
GG Vanya
06-16-2006, 07:25 AM
'Days of Old'? I take it you haven't seen today's modern belts then?!
Some of the male designs might work for hiding your 'bits'. The CB-2000 and CB-3000 are a fairly popular design, but might not work well for this purpose. There are many other designs, check out www.lockmeup.com for a wealth of chastity info. I'm sure I've seen belts which would be great for hiding your stuff...
Ummm I meant the iron ones were from days of old. LOL I've made several posts about our (Mine and Trudi's) alternate lifestyle, but try to do it in a "gentle" way, as some are offended by BDSM. :happy: Suffice it to say, my toy bag isn't for the faint of heart! :D
And you're correct about the CB2k/3k, they tend to accentuate instead of minimize things in that region. :evil:
Karren H
06-16-2006, 07:29 AM
Hmmmmm. If there was something fem that I wanted I bought it! So really don't have a wishlist. Guess I shop way too much. Hehehe
Love Karren
toniloraine
06-16-2006, 07:35 AM
mine would be legs and feet.
Teresa Amina
06-16-2006, 07:37 AM
If there was something fem that I wanted I bought it! So really don't have a wishlist.
Ooooh! You're missing out on the luscious pleasure of satisfying those long held dreams.....
Kate Simmons
06-16-2006, 07:41 AM
Wouldn't mind seeing your "toy bag" Vanya. Ericka
Cherry Lynn
06-16-2006, 07:47 AM
I am bi when dressed.
Kate Simmons
06-16-2006, 07:48 AM
You're an old fashioned gal Teresa, I can tell. Wonder how I know that? Gotta bring those fashions back. Ericka
nishababe
06-16-2006, 07:49 AM
great legs and looks from Karen ( what a great personality this girl has wow)
Anthea also has looks and legs to die for !!
Love Nisha xx:hugs:
toniloraine
06-16-2006, 07:49 AM
yes, i always wear at least panties,thats all i have is panties:heehee: . also wear a nightie most of the time.
CharlaineCadence
06-16-2006, 07:52 AM
Ok I have been living mostly full time as a woman for just about 6 months and you know what. I hate bras. I have to wear them because they hold up my forms and my slowly forming brests. But you know what It is also one of the first things to come off after socks and shoes. Dont get me wrong because I have sleep bras and sport bras and lacy bras and a ton of plane ol bras but i'll tell you. I am soooo glad to get the dang thing off after a long day. And I dont even need to take my shirt off any more to do it lol.
kiss kiss
char
Lisa Golightly
06-16-2006, 07:53 AM
I love seeing my clothes and panties all laid out so neatly for me to chose what ever I wish to wear ,along with all my perfumes ,make up and general female clutter no need to live a lie
Hmmmmm.... *looks over shoulder at bombsite bedroom with clothes everywhere, tights hanging out of drawers, unmade bed, littered vanity table, and scattered odd shoes*... me too! ;)
Lisa Golightly
06-16-2006, 08:03 AM
Breasts probably, but I quite like my eyes too. :)
ChristineRenee
06-16-2006, 08:04 AM
Definitely my legs...my wife is still envious of them!:heehee:
toniloraine
06-16-2006, 08:06 AM
in the later 70s ,all80s and early 90s i was in the military. no way was anyone going to know i cd'd. also had our children at home and all of their friends. my wife knew and didnt care if i dressed or not, she perferred only at nights at home after the kids were asleep.
Teresa Amina
06-16-2006, 08:08 AM
Was caught when in 8th grade. It got all over school.:eek: The horror! The horror!:eek: Luckily we moved far away soon after, but I was so traumatised I buried Me deep, deep, deep:eek: and became really good at hiding even from myself.
toniloraine
06-16-2006, 08:20 AM
i agree with bettyH, all i need is shaved legs and painted toenails, i always wear panties and at least knee highs at work.fingernails are painted clear, most of the time, gotta love it.
Robertacd
06-16-2006, 08:23 AM
In general it does not take much...
I don't have to be fully made up or fully dressed up to feel feminine, I sort of feel that way all the time.
This question seems to creep into the bulliten boards from time to time.
Anyway when dressed yes I guess that is part of the fantasy, is having men desire me, and me dressing to appeal to them. I guess it is sort of a role reversial.
karencd
06-16-2006, 08:30 AM
love to get all dolled up!! but shopping at the mall looking at gurl stuff does it too!!!:doll: karen
Deborah
06-16-2006, 12:30 PM
Cool a one stop shop answer all you crossdressing questions thread lol. :D
Tina Dixon
06-16-2006, 05:31 PM
Cool a one stop shop answer all you crossdressing questions thread lol. :D
Don't get know better than this does it:thumbsup:
kristytv
06-16-2006, 09:35 PM
ok sooo who decided to merge all these threads? if you read thru them all it doenst make sense at all, and my mind is now fried!
Tina Dixon
06-16-2006, 09:49 PM
They didn't make much sense the other way either.
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