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Deborah757
06-30-2006, 06:58 PM
Maybe this is a little less sensitive than asking about IQs.

I once read somewhere that lots of TSs are INFP personality types. Since that is my type, I am interested in knowing if others are this or something close.

If you don't know your type, a free test is at http://similarminds.com/jung.html under the Jung Tests I-E S-N F-T J-P** heading.

Yes, I know we are probably not a representative sample of the population as a whole, but it might be interesting anyway.

It might also be interesting to see if there is any significant differences between MTF and FTM.

FWIW, INFP is described as: http://www.personalitypage.com/INFP.html. It seems to describe me pretty well.

Marla S
06-30-2006, 07:33 PM
Made the test you linked to and I made a similar,though not the same, in German - just to make sure :D

ISTP for me, each time.

Caitlintgsd
06-30-2006, 09:39 PM
ENTP. I think that at times I tend to be more of an introvert than an extrovert though.

Teresa Amina
06-30-2006, 09:39 PM
INFJ- Introverted Intellectual. Kinda fits. The list of favored careers has several things I considered at one point or another.

Kimberley
06-30-2006, 09:46 PM
I did Meyers Briggs three times (administered by a pdoc) and each time came up INTJ. Apparently I fall into a category that encompasses only 2% of the population.

I always knew I was different. :D

Kimberley.

Ms. Donna
06-30-2006, 10:16 PM
If you don't know your type, a free test is at http://similarminds.com/jung.html under the Jung Tests I-E S-N F-T J-P** heading.
Can't get past the first question... :(

First: male and female are sexes, not genders. :mad:

Second: there are only two choices... and neither is correct. :angry:

This tells me that the test is rooted in stereotyped sex/gender roles. :Angry3:

Oh Well...

Love & Stuff,
Donna

Ms. Donna
06-30-2006, 10:22 PM
OK, so I did this as 'female' - says I'm INTP...

And this does what for me???

Love & Stuff,
Donna

Kimberley
06-30-2006, 10:28 PM
I am not sure but I think Meyers Briggs is available on line. It is gender nuetral.

Kimberley.

Deborah757
06-30-2006, 11:16 PM
This tells me that the test is rooted in stereotyped sex/gender roles.

The test is gender neutral. I'm pretty sure they ask the question only for data collection purposes.


OK, so I did this as 'female' - says I'm INTP...

And this does what for me???

Its purely for self understanding.
From http://www.personalitypage.com/INTP_per.html

INTP Potential Problem Areas

The INTP resists and rejects anything that doesn't support their own experiential understanding of the world. If they perceive that something is not logical, they reject it as unimportant.

kelli
07-01-2006, 06:15 AM
We each change some of the basics of our own personality as we assume different roles in life, gain experience or suffer tragic events. The worker that becomes the boss, the woman who becomes a mother etc. Further, the personality type we display at work and outside of work are often differrent. I for one am more extroverted at work and more introverted in social situations.

I have never been one to take these type test for they are just a snapshot in time as we progress through life. I have seen and worked with people who were afraid to take the next step because they believed they had a fixed personality type. IE, the natural leader who was afraid to become the boss because they took a test that said they were too introverted to be a good leader.

Even with the above, I did read the definition for INTP and found it to almost describe me to a tee. Not just a section here or there, but the vast majority of the text.

Kelli

Deborah757
07-01-2006, 08:27 AM
Seems that so far I am the only INFP. Maybe that article I read a while back wasn't true.

What I have found personally useful in this is knowing potential personal weaknesses and recognizing when I may be exhibiting these characteristics to my own or others detriment. The ones below describe some of the things I have recognozed in myself in the past and have to continually work to avoid.

May be extremely sensitive to any kind of criticism
May be unable to acknowledge or hear anything that goes against their personal ideas and opinions
May come across as eccentric, or perhaps even generally strange to others, without being aware of it
May be unable to see or understand anyone else's point of view
May value their own opinions and feelings far above others
May feel overwhelmed with tension and stress when someone expresses disagreement with the INFP, or disapproval of the INFP
May develop strong judgments that are difficult to unseed against people who they perceive have been oppressive or suppressive to them

Ms. Donna
07-01-2006, 08:46 AM
The INTP resists and rejects anything that doesn't support their own experiential understanding of the world. If they perceive that something is not logical, they reject it as unimportant.

Well, the above is so not me. In fact, it's almost the opposite.

My 'experiential understanding of the world' is just that: mine. It is not the 'correct' or only interpretation of the world and forums such as this prove that point. I have learned much and grown because of the experiences of others: not by rejecting them, but by embracing them and understanding them.

And as for rejecting the illogical as unimportant, logic is not the only criteria for evaluating the worth of a thing. Most of life, when critically analysed, is illogical: we do thing which are bad for us, waste time, energy and money, put our fate in hands of some unseen, supernatural power in the belief that it will guide and protect us, etc... Most of life is illogical.

Sorry, but I'm even more suspect of this now than before.

Nothing more than another label to add to the pile...

Love & Stuff,
Donna

Marla S
07-01-2006, 09:47 AM
This tells me that the test is rooted in stereotyped sex/gender roles. :Angry3:
The German version is gender neutral and led to the same result for me, though the questions were slightly different.

~Dee~
07-01-2006, 10:01 AM
i got :

INFP - "Questor". High capacity for caring. Emotional face to the world. High sense of honor derived from internal values. 4.4% of total population.

oooooooer ... thats all freaky and stuff :happy:

Kristen Kelly
07-01-2006, 10:11 AM
Maybe this is a little less sensitive than asking about IQs.

I once read somewhere that lots of TSs are INFP personality types. Since that is my type, I am interested in knowing if others are this or something close.

If you don't know your type, a free test is at http://similarminds.com/jung.html under the Jung Tests I-E S-N F-T J-P** heading.

Yes, I know we are probably not a representative sample of the population as a whole, but it might be interesting anyway.

It might also be interesting to see if there is any significant differences between MTF and FTM.

FWIW, INFP is described as: http://www.personalitypage.com/INFP.html. It seems to describe me pretty well.




I make it a habit to read the new posts, so I do read alot of the FTM posts too, the more I read the more I have found although we are dfifferent, we are the same, not going to accept just who we are and willing to change it by any logicial means.

INFP describes me to a "T" also

Kimberley
07-01-2006, 10:47 AM
As Kelli pointed out, we do tend to react differently to different situations. The Personality Type Indicator is exactly that, an indicator. It doesnt dictate your actions or reactions but in hindsight may explain some of them.

The problem with doing a single test is that it is inconclusive. In other words it cannot be verified or validated. Several tests administered by a trained professional (and this doesnt mean the secretary who read the handbook) need to done at different times in order for the Type Indicator to have any weight. Again, it is little more than a tool for examining what you have done, not how you will react. Circumstance more often than not will influence our behaviours.

A lot of companies wrongly put a lot of stock in these tests in order to "predict" behaviours and therefore "fit" the right person to the job. If only it were that simple. The problems with this are numerous including not factoring in intelligence and emotion as significant characteristics. The other problem is as I said, they do one test and it is administered by someone who is unqualified in the area of workplace psychology and human behaviour. (Sorry but Workplace Psychology 101 doesnt make one an expert.)

Would you take your car to a carpenter to be repaired? Doh!

Kimberley.

Ms. Donna
07-01-2006, 10:56 AM
OK, so I took this again... Same result:

Jung Test Results
Introverted (I) 63.89% Extroverted (E) 36.11%
Intuitive (N) 55.81% Sensing (S) 44.19%
Thinking (T) 55.56% Feeling (F) 44.44%
Perceiving (P) 60% Judging (J) 40%


Your type is: INTP


loner, more interested in intellectual pursuits than relationships or family, wrestles with the meaninglessness of existence, likes esoteric things, disorganized, messy, likes science fiction, can be lonely, observer, private, can't describe feelings easily, detached, likes solitude, not revealing, unemotional, rule breaker, avoidant, familiar with the darkside, skeptical, acts without consulting others, does not think they are weird but others do, socially uncomfortable, abrupt, fantasy prone, does not like happy people, appreciates strangeness, frequently loses things, acts without planning, guarded, not punctual, more likely to support marijuana legalization, not prone to compromise, hard to persuade, relies on mind more than on others, calm


With a few exceptions, the above is pretty accurate. But what the hell does familiar with the darkside mean???


favored careers:


philosopher, game designer, scientist, software engineer, freelance artist, research scientist, assassin, freelance writer, physicist, software developer, mathmetician, geologist, computer scientist, philosophy professor, webmaster, slacker, medical researcher, painter, mortician, systems analyst, comic book artist, computer technician, website designer, scholar, archeologist, computer repair, forensic anthropologist, astronaut, researcher, historian, systems engineer, genetics researcher, astronomer, enviromental scientist, egyptologist


Majored in Comp Sci / minored in Philosophy. Career wise: Programmer / Analyst / System Design.


disfavored careers:


human resources, public relations, social worker, guidance counselor, health care worker, trainer, school teacher, wedding planner, movie star, hospitality worker, supervisor, child care worker, fundraiser, customer service, stay at home parent, office administrator


Always wanted to be a rock star - but knew I'd never pull it off. :happy:


As I see it, this tells me what I've known all along... I'm a geek! :D


Enough testing for one weekend.


Love & Stuff,
Donna

tori-e
07-01-2006, 10:56 AM
ENFP - "Journalist". Uncanny sense of the motivations of others. Life is an exciting drama. 8.1% of total population.

Gender - Female

Donna, My body may be male. But my gender is definitely female. That's the way I read it.:happy:

love,
Tori


Can't get past the first question... :(

First: male and female are sexes, not genders. :mad:

~Kitty GG~
07-01-2006, 11:53 AM
Take a look at your percentages as well..

I got ESTJ

Extroverted (E) 71.88% Introverted (I) 28.13%
Sensing (S) 51.35% Intuitive (N) 48.65%
Thinking (T) 54.29% Feeling (F) 45.71%
Judging (J) 57.14% Perceiving (P) 42.86%

But only the Extrovert/Introvert have a real gap percentage-wise. In all the other categories I don't go wildly one way or the other. So a lot of the info the test results say are overboard in those areas.

I totally agree with the things the test said about my Extrovert tendencies and also the things about how I judge the world according to my principles of right and wrong (judging/perceiving).. this area shows a bit more of a gap for me too.. 57%/43%.

But where they say that I always take facts and logic over feelings and compassion I have to disagree.. I'd only do that 55% of the time.

It was interesting tho. And I did learn a few things about myself. And about others and the world in general.

So thanx!!!

One thing Dee & I saw was that we're almost total opposites. That's pretty funny!

Love & Hugs
~Kitty~
:star::star::star:

Sabrinageek
07-01-2006, 12:34 PM
I am consistently ENFP. Have tested many times and always get the same results, with no "borderline" results. :)

I tend to be interested in following the "NF" portion of the population, as there seems to be a lot of overlap in traits in that subset.

Sabrina

Clare
07-02-2006, 04:26 AM
ENTP. I think that at times I tend to be more of an introvert than an extrovert though.Your interpretation is not quite correct Caitlin. This is the same misconception many people have when reading the results of a MBTI test. The key point is knowing the difference for meanings of 'introvert' (or extrovert) depending on which pyschologist's studies you are referring.

MBTI is based on the study of Carl Jung - introvert or extrovert refers to the thinking process you use. In this case, introvert means somebody thinks quietly to themselves and comes to decision before talking about it or taking action.

The traditional understanding of an introvert is based on Sigmund Freud's studies. What is commonly known as an introvert based on Freud's interpretation is a quiet shy type of person.

The two meaning of intorvert differ significantly when comparing the two physchologist teachings. For the record, if your result of ENTP is accurate, you tend to speak out your thoughts as you think through ideas. At the same time, you can still be an introvert in terms being a low-key person generally.

As for me, i'm an INTP (and yes the one letter difference between us makes a big difference!) and one day in the future I hope to qualify to facilitate seminars teaching MBTI.

Alison Michelle
07-13-2006, 12:49 AM
With a few exceptions, the above is pretty accurate. But what the hell does familiar with the darkside mean???

Been hanging out with Tall, Dark and Hooded?
D.V.: "Chusss, Khussss" "I am your father Donna!":eek:

Donna: "Noooooooooo!!!!!":happy: