more people know than you think....

[Wendy me]

we all think this cding thing we do no one notices when we try to be carefully not to get caught ... OK last night about PM my neighbor next door comes over and asks me if i want to target practice with our bows he said a few guy's are coming over and we will be drinking some beer .... well why not i went up stairs and got my new cross bow ...

in all there were 5 guys out drinking and shooting their bows .... i was setting up my cross bow as it was new and never used .... soon after every one was playing around with the cross bow ... and drinking beer ... my Nambour comes out and says .."you should put some of your red nail polish on the sight so you could see it better."....i just said good idear....

how many of you think that your nabobs just might know that something is going on in your house and yard???

[Nikki Dee]

I accept it's always a possibility Wendy...as it is at work...but what the Hell.!!!...they might "think" they know...but until I tell them..or they see me dressed then...it will always be a "maybe". Personally I don't care much...but my wife would find it difficult I think...she is very accepting and supportive of Nikki....finds fascination in it to be honest..but knowing all the neighbours knew, then I think that would be a step too far...for now.!!!..I am the eternal optimist.!!!
Nikki. x

[NighttimeGirl]

I Know women can tell by the way you look at thier clothes, when I meet a woman I look first at there attire then hair then make up etc then finally I check out the girl sad I know,I would say a lot of ppl know a lot more than we would think, I have volunteraly told 4 ppl during my lifetime, one is my sister who has never mentioned it since, the other my G/f and she has good days and bad days with it and the previous two were my ex and last night strangley enough I came out to my cousin on messenger and said to him whats your response, he says " I havent got one but its not a problem though" which was the bravest thing I ever did, tell another male can you beleive it, he is a proper guy as well if that makes sense,
The other time was involuntery when my Dad came bombing up the stairs as I was delving in my sisters wardrobe, his face was one of disgust to which I will never forget and he has not mentioned it since either.

I love me though now! and it helps me love everyone else so heres to ya girls! :love:

[Dixie Darling]

Hmmmmm. . . . . drinking beer and foolin' around with a loaded crossbow!!!! . . . . . . And we thought crossdressing was hazardous!!!!

Sorry Wendy, I just couldn't pass up the opportunity.:roflmao:

Oh, and as an afterthought, flourescent orange nail polish is the best to use on your sites.

Dixie -- http://www.geocities.com/senorita_cd

[Marla S]

If you don't take the closet literally, a lot might be at least suspicious that some "strange" things are going on.
Seems like women in particular are very sensitive.

At least me, I am terrible bad in hiding. My parents should have known something (maybe my brother too), one neighbour in my mom's house catched me with makeup on (got 5 eye-liners from her for christmas:D ), my ex's sister once saw me in tights. Just last week I have kind of outed myself to my new neighbours.

I was expecting an urgend letter and when the door bell rang quite early in the morning I jumped out of the bed and opened the door a bit dozy.
It wasn't the postman, but my old neighbour who wanted to say good bye and my new one who wanted to say hello.
Well I think they realized my painted toe and finger nails and traces of makeup (I realized that later) if I read their facial expression correctly :D

[Win Der Mere]

I don't think anyone knows, but women are certainly intuitive, and they always seem to involve me as one of them., rather than[one of them].

I'm always flattered by it. mind you, I'm easily flattered !

Win.

[Michelle Ellis]

I've always wondered if my neighbors might have seen me at some point, I go out in the yard and patio dressed up often enough, sunbathing too :p well if they did I hope they got an eyeful! LOL

M

[Charleen]

It's possible. On my days off I'm always going out of the house, my washer and dryer are in the garage, I'm walking the dogs, getting something out of the car or what have you. I'm always enfemme thought in nice tops and shorts and with my bra on. I'm a natural b-cup, so the little ones show.Oh yeah, these shaved legs are so white, they probably glow. Whether anyone has noticed, I don't know, but no one has complimented me on how smooth my legs are, or how nice my nails look. Oh well, I'm me. At home and at work, where they haven't said anything about my pierced ears, nails or charm bracelet. Not much concerned at this point in my life. Always been different through the years anyway, so the feminization is just another step on my discovery of who I am, and as time goes on, I get more comfortable with me and that will lead to being more open with those around. Just another adventure and learning experience on life's journey. I also call those learning times AFGE'S Another F#*king Growth Experience!!! They can hurt sometime, but I always try to learn. Love and xxx, Lily

[Karren H]

Hmmmm good point, Wendy. Maybe my engineer friend wasn't just goofing around when he pointed to the ladies change room on our the last mine visit and said "thers your dressing room, hahaha"??

Love Karren

[Rachel M]

It makes me curious if my next door neighbor has seen me as well. When i first mioved in he was very sociable. We had a string of vandalism on our street so my neighbor installed a video surveilance system. There was a couple of times I left the blinds and/or curtains open. I sure he's must have seen me. At any rate, he is not at social anymore. Maybe he's seen Rachel and doesn't know how to or want to deal with me. Oh well, nobodies loss here.
Rachel

[Kate Simmons]

No question about it Wendy. They know. They just never mention it. "don't ask, don't tell" I guess! Ericka

[typical_guy]

Once when I was a teenager, my brother saw me wearing one of my mom's bras. He ran back up the stairs and never mentioned it again. I think my dad might have seen me once also.

As for me, I just don't give a crap if people know anymore. I used to be really depressed about it. I tried to hide it from others. I wouldn't even admit it to myself. I almost killed myself many times and a couple months ago it all came to a head when all kinds of stresses were pushing in from all sides. I had just moved, I didn't know anyone, I wasn't happy, I didn't want to CD. Finally I started seeing a therapist, taking an antidepressant, and thinking about things. After thinking about it I realized that I've been doing this since I was very small and have done it my entire life. It's part of who I am, it's part of who I've always been, and it's part of who I'm going to be. I was making the mistake of defining myself by crossdressing instead of realizing that it doesn't define me as a person but is only one aspect of who I am.

So anyway, I've started to come to terms with it a few months ago and since then I've realized that I don't give a crap what other people think. That's not to say that I go around telling EVERYONE. There's no reason that I need to have a nametag that says, "Hi, I'm typical guy - the crossdresser". That's just silly. I DO however tell people that I have become friends with. I have no desire to be friends with someone that is not willing to accept me as the person I am. I've told a total of 4 people at work, I've told about a dozzen people that I know from places other than work (friends and aquantances that I hang out with now), and I've told my mother. I told one person from the office I worked at before I moved to Maryland.

The fact is, I just select those that I tell carefuly. I tell gay/bi people more easily because they are usually fairly accepting. I only tell them if they seem the non-gossip type. I tell other people if they are liberals or open minded and I feel like I could be close to them. Frankly, I just feel more comfortable being around people that know. It feels GOOD to be able to talk about ANYTHING, including that to them. I've found myself to be much more open and less guarded on ALL topics with people that know. I feel like I can be myself for the first time in my life.

Do my neighbors know? Maybe. Do I care? No.

[paulaN]

I think white is better than orange or red on your front site. I'd say my neighbors don't know. And it dosen't matter if thay do.

[Angie G]

My wife is the only one that knows Its just less complicated that way.
It just works for me like that she has no need to tell someone.
Angie G

[Lisa425]

Your right more people know than you might think! My cousin came over on day and got on my computer while i was in the shower, and saw all of the crossdressing sights i had been on, when he asked me about it of course i denied it (probobly wouldnt now ) but i did then, every now and then he drops little hints, thats lets me know that he knows. And i almost got cought by my girlfriend one night!! but i really love to dress and the more i dress the less i care if they do know or not.

Love
Lisa Lane

[JasmineR]

Saturday was my birthday, so I spent the day with my Dad, his girlfriend and my grandmother. I am living with my Dad and his gf at the moment while I finish school. Sunday we went to the beach and had a few beers and then when we got home we got into the Margarita mix and Tequila. I was feeling pretty good to say the least. Well, after my Dad went to bed, he has been sleeping in the room next to mine lately, I decided to throw on a skirt and blouse and go outside for a smoke. Well, apparently I never made it outside, I sat down for a minute to watch a show, woke up at 3:15 or so in the morning with my door open, and I was on the edge of my bed. I don't know if my dad got up during the night to use the restroom or not.. he hasn't said anything.

This was a longer story than I thought it would be!

[Holly]

Do they know? Do I care? I've been wearing acrylic nails, polished (not clear) to work for over a year now. Also earrings since last October. Has it been noticed? Absolutely. The girls in the office are always asking to see my nails after I go the salon as often my tech will airbrush on designs or apply decals and they are curious to see what is on my hands. I don't hide my hands or ears around the neighborhood so it would come as no surprise if they suspect.

[Rachel Morley]

how many of you think that your nabobs just might know that something is going on in your house and yard???
I'm absolutely positive that our neighbours (from opposite) know there is something strange going on. I imagine they would have to be blind and stupid not to suspect at least something. My wife is always going out, both day and night, with this "strange woman" in her car - that's what I imagine they see through their windows or when they are in their front yard.

At work, I suspect that they think I'm just plain weird or definately not a regular guy. A rather small English person, who doesn't eat meat, has very long shiny finger nails, gestures in girly mannerisums, and dresses very feminine for a guy.

Do they put 2+2 together and come up with 4? who knows?!

[Calliope]

you should put some of your red nail polish on the sight so you could see it better."....i just said good idear....


The comment seems (to my ears) totally good-natured - and in context. The juxtaposition of cross bows and red fingernail polish does lend itself to humor. (80 Million Years BC?) The comment would totally translate to any GG, thus the good taste.


Everyone in my neighborhood knows by now (since I don't drive, I walk the length of my street to go anywhere; water flowers in the front yard, etc.) - no difference in anyone's behavior at all.

[Edwina]

I think my young neighbour saw me one morning when I was hanging out washing. His pool pump is in the narrow space between our boundry wall and his house. There was obviously something going wrong with the pump and I heard him running on the other side of the wall. I turned and tried to make it to the back door without him seeing me but his "good morning" I think, means he at least saw my pink top and black skirt as I disappeared round the corner. :o

[Dee 1062]

Sounds like your neighbor may want to know more, maybe he does it also....But Girl...you got to do better...Crossbows and Beer don't mix...go fishing the next time:)

[tekla west]

I've always thought that the things we are trying the hardest to hide from others are all but obvious to them. Just because they know, does not mean they care.

[Billijo49504]

Well Wendy me, I guess the question I have is what crossbow do you have? I have a Ten Point Titan w/ the winder. 295 fps on my crony...BJ

[shericd7]

after meeting my new niebhors,we became friends in the sense that we were niebhors and say hi to each other...Then one day I came hope she came over and asked if I would take some of her clothes to the goodwill that she didnt wear them anymore or I could just keep what I wanted and she left...so now from time to time she gives me something that she doesnt want...and thats all thats been said about it...I have never dressed in front of her or her husband but she knew some way...Sheri

[Lisa Golightly]

D'ya think dragging the bin bags down the drive in my leopard faux fur coat and heels may have been noticed? Oh, bugger! ;)

[KellyT]

I think my Mum probably knows. When I was about 14 she asked if i'd been in her underwear drawer. I said "No". She then asked if I had a problem I wanted to tell her about, physically shaking by this point I again said "No". I never heard any more on the subject. Last month she took a pile of laundry to wash for us as our machine had broken (flooded the kitchen floor 3 times :mad: ). Anyway my wife had inadvertantly put my silk and lace blue panties in with the load. Despite the fact that they should've been handwash only, they were obviously not my wifes, as they must be at least twice the size of anything she owns. We got the load back all neatly folded and ironed, and never a further word said. Mums... Don't you just love them. x

[NighttimeGirl]

I think my Mum probably knows. When I was about 14 she asked if i'd been in her underwear drawer. I said "No". She then asked if I had a problem I wanted to tell her about, physically shaking by this point I again said "No". I never heard any more on the subject. Last month she took a pile of laundry to wash for us as our machine had broken (flooded the kitchen floor 3 times :mad: ). Anyway my wife had inadvertantly put my silk and lace blue panties in with the load. Despite the fact that they should've been handwash only, they were obviously not my wifes, as they must be at least twice the size of anything she owns. We got the load back all neatly folded and ironed, and never a further word said. Mums... Don't you just love them. x

yeah I am monkeys uncle if my mother doesnt know, on the subject of neighbours and being sociable, I wish mine wasnt sociable anymore he is always there when i go in the garden, never see me dressed though I suspect?

[Sissy_in_pink]

My male ex next door neighbour who moved years ago told my I looked good in my fluorescent pink bike shorts in a sarcastic way and the Italians in the two story house behind have definitely seen me dressed. There is no way they could miss as their house is on a hill overlooking mine back yard.

[Charleen]

I think my Mum probably knows. When I was about 14 she asked if i'd been in her underwear drawer. I said "No". She then asked if I had a problem I wanted to tell her about, physically shaking by this point I again said "No". I never heard any more on the subject. Last month she took a pile of laundry to wash for us as our machine had broken (flooded the kitchen floor 3 times :mad: ). Anyway my wife had inadvertantly put my silk and lace blue panties in with the load. Despite the fact that they should've been handwash only, they were obviously not my wifes, as they must be at least twice the size of anything she owns. We got the load back all neatly folded and ironed, and never a further word said. Mums... Don't you just love them. x
Yeah ya gotta love 'em! Growing up, I was always in her dresser, being as careful as I could as she was an an extremely neat person, so much so that she let on that she knew I was doing something. But boy did she find out! She always wore padded bras because as she said, she had a chest that was flatter than a pancake. I stole one of her bras, lengthen it to fit me, and wore it. Why not? Not only could I wear a bra, but have a chest at the same time! Well, One day she got fedd up with my messy ways, and cleaned my closet. Caught! :eek: When asked, I did a Ralph Cramden Imitation-Hummina, hummina, hummina. In other words, I pleaded ignorance. She believed me of course. Yeah, right! She did say that she never wanted to find anything like that again. She didn't. I got real good at hiding, and alot more careful with her things that I continued to wear. Love and xxx, Lily

[Annesah]

Yes; women can tell. At the check out line in the supermarket they will say things like "Thanks... hun ... sweety or dear. I don't think they would defer to just any guy that way. At the same time that special smile they sometimes bestow is unbelievably flattering and I always take pleasure in returning that smile. I just know a kind of femme bond has taken place. It's so joyful. I know that I'm blessed to be the way I am because no regular guy can experience this with a woman. It makes me feel like a true sister and what could be beter! :happy:

[Calliope]

[...] that special smile they sometimes bestow is unbelievably flattering and I always take pleasure in returning that smile. I just know a kind of femme bond has taken place. It's so joyful. I know that I'm blessed to be the way I am because no regular guy can experience this with a woman.

Nicely said.

[Ginagirl]

Sounds like you live in the wild wild West. Drinking, shooting, you forget to mention what you were smokin? HaHa

Sounds like they know and are ok with the amount of what they know. I think its great. Have fun with it and next time you go shooting don't forget to bring your polish with you........ and don't forget to share!!

Gina

[Casey Morgan]

You're probably right Wendy. We just may be fooling no one but ourselves. Wouldn't that be funny? Everybody going around saying "don't say anything, he thinks nobody knows he crossdresses". It just goes to show how kind hearted people really are.

[Stormgirl]

Wouldnt be surprised if people in my small apartment complex knew.Its one of those places that only has 24 apartments and everybody pretty much knows each other.

[Tiffy]

I have a neghbor that screams out "Mommy I am a crossdresser" at the top of his lung every now and then outta the blue. I am not sure if he does this when I am not around or not. But when he does it my mom gives me funny looks. Yes mom knows but does not know why he does it so we all can hear him.

April Marie

[Julogden]

after meeting my new niebhors,we became friends in the sense that we were niebhors and say hi to each other...Then one day I came hope she came over and asked if I would take some of her clothes to the goodwill that she didnt wear them anymore or I could just keep what I wanted and she left...so now from time to time she gives me something that she doesnt want...and thats all thats been said about it...I have never dressed in front of her or her husband but she knew some way...Sheri
Hi Sherri,

Oh wow, that is SO cool of your neighbor. We should all have neighbors like that!

I used to get makeup from a lady that I met on-line in the alt.fashion newsgroup. She was a serious makeup junkie who was apparently spending tons on stuff she'd try once and not like, so I benefitted, and it was wonderful!

Carol

[Julogden]

When I lived in the city, (Chicago), I shared an entrance with the apartment above mine. The lady who lived there didn't speak English very well, being a recent Polish immigrant (I lived in a seriously Polish neighborhood), so our exchanges were limited to to "Hi, good morning" types of things.

Anyway, since our mail boxes in the apartment vestibule were tiny, the mail was dumped on the floor, and we had to sort through it, so she was very aware of my many catalogs for women's clothing and fashion magazines, and when a package would arrive for me, bearing the name of women's clothing stores more often than not, if she got to the mail before I did, she would leave the packages by my apartment door on her way up to her apartment.

Do you think she suspected?:GE:

Carol

[Calliope]

I have a neghbor that screams out "Mommy I am a crossdresser" at the top of his lung every now and then outta the blue.

Tourettes, maybe?

Gotta be weird hearing it, considering.

[Tina Dixon]

Well I have been out in the yard and in font of the window dressed, so it's possable, but i'm sure they have seen more:eek:

[inherundys]

23 yo neighbor girl caught me with bra, panties and thigh highs on letting the dogs out one day. I must have set a world record for ripping that stuff off and putting on some "normal" clothes. When she finally made it to the door, she said, "Awww, you didn't have to change just for me, I saw what you had on!"

Now she is about 10 times friendlier than before, and goes out of her way to say hi. Some chicks must dig it!:evil:

[Emma England]

23 yo neighbor girl caught me with bra, panties and thigh highs on letting the dogs out one day. I must have set a world record for ripping that stuff off and putting on some "normal" clothes. When she finally made it to the door, she said, "Awww, you didn't have to change just for me, I saw what you had on!"

Now she is about 10 times friendlier than before, and goes out of her way to say hi. Some chicks must dig it!:evil:

That is so cool!

More women need to behave like this! :heehee:

[Julie Avery]

I expect that some of my neighbors know that I crossdress. I don't mow the lawn in dresses or that type of thing but I keep my legs shaved and wear short shorts in summer, and I've chatted at my Weber grill with my neighbor who approached me, while in said shorts and wearing an obviously femme watch and ring. I don't get in their face, and they seem to take me in stride (and this is in a rural town of 2,000 people where their ancestors have lived since Elizabeth I was queen and I'm an outsider who barged in four years ago). I don't expect to be elected Mayor any time soon, but no one has been tossing fruit or vegetables, bottles or cans at me or my house (well ok, we do get the occasional bottle and can found in the front yard, but I don't think it's got anything to do with how I dress). I think, even or perhaps especially in a rural backwater like this, that most older people who are my neighbors are more concerned about other aspects of how their neighbors behave, than crossdressing.

[Katrina]

D'ya think dragging the bin bags down the drive in my leopard faux fur coat and heels may have been noticed? Oh, bugger! ;)

They might have noticed. I should try that. Tomorrow is garbage day. What color heels go with taking out the trash???

[Annesah]

we all think this cding thing we do no one notices when we try to be carefully not to get caught ... OK last night about PM my neighbor next door comes over and asks me if i want to target practice with our bows he said a few guy's are coming over and we will be drinking some beer .... well why not i went up stairs and got my new cross bow ...

in all there were 5 guys out drinking and shooting their bows .... i was setting up my cross bow as it was new and never used .... soon after every one was playing around with the cross bow ... and drinking beer ... my Nambour comes out and says .."you should put some of your red nail polish on the sight so you could see it better."....i just said good idear....

how many of you think that your nabobs just might know that something is going on in your house and yard???


Wendy! What a great way to out yourself! A crossbow with a bunch of macho compounds and recerves! :tongueout

[dani_grl03]

Oh yeh more people notice. My wife asked me if she could talk to a friend about it. I was way cool with it. She said that when she mentioned it her friend was all like, "yeh Ive known for a long time. He just looks that way"
And I have gotten to the point of not really trying to hide too much. I dont go out in a dress and such, but I dont wear anything male anymore.
I do believe that more people notice that what we sometimes think, they just dont care or say anything.

[tekla west]

Hey Katrina, everyone knows you match your shoes to your accessories, in this case the trash, so silver shoes if you have cans, something in dark green or black for Heafty Bags.

[JenniferPaul]

One time while riding the elevator with a woman living in the same apartment building, different floor, She told me " You look good when you dress up" I was in drab at the time. She said it was cool and knows others. The surprising thing is she connected the en femme and drab presentation. Who else has done that?

[Lisa Renee]

I have been seen quite often coming home from being out some where enfemme. Neighbors on both sides have seen me that way. My one of my neighbors has even said hi to me as I was walking to my door, I said hi back and waved. I used to always check of weather any of my neighbors were out side before I left the house, but anymore I just walk out they really don't seem to care, if I'm dressed or in drab.

[vampiricCD]

you girls are lucky, i know my mother doesnt know, and im glad she doesnt, when my parents divorces she made a huge deal of everylittle thing if she knew i was a cd she would have put me in a mental institution, shes psycho!

[Monique_Lynn]

My only close neighbor works out of town and only home on weekends. He lives alone and not that it matters to me (rumor has it he is gay) as he never has any visitors. I spend a lot of time enfemme at home and do so enjoy sitting on the porch in the mornings and evenings dressed as well as doing yard work, car washing etc. He spends a lot of time tinkering with old Volkswagons and doing things around his place. I have noticed that he does do a lot of looking in my direction and although I have never caught him I think he likes to secretly (look/peep). In the few occassions we have spoken nothing has ever been said. All in all he is a pretty good neighbor, minds his own business etc. Friendly enough, we wave to each other in passing. Maybe someday something will be said or we will get to know one another better? Been neighbors for 6 years so don't think much will change.
ginger

[pedebra]

My neighbor across the street may know. One early morning as I was returning home from my daily walk, he was out walking his dog. I just said good morning as I walked past him in my pink compression shorts and pink tank top. He hasn't said much to me since.

[Tiffy]

Tourettes, maybe?

Gotta be weird hearing it, considering.


It sure make me think that is for sure. My mom asked me where all that came from when she first heard it.

April Marie

[Wendy me]

well my next door nabior knows for shure he has told me ..." i have seen you doing yard work out side and not wearing your regular clouthes " he went on to say do what you want but as long as i don't need to know any thing it's ok
kinda cool from a red neck.....

[serinalynn]

Well I really don't care how many do but wife, daughter(21) son(24), sister in law ( 2 of them) Neice(23) nephew and a few neighbors I sure at least suspect it. other wise I haven't told anyone else in so many words. I go shopping in womens clothing stores wearing womens clothing and no one has said any thing to me all the sales associates have been friendly and helpful while in the stores. The last time I went shopping i was wearing a red low neckline top and a white bra under it and I noticed at least one person stareing at my bra cups starting to show out the top of my tops neckline. But she didn't say any thing. I'm going shopping to day also(July22nd) I'll be wearing a orange and brown print baby doll top with a red balconette bra under it.
I think most people are to mixed up in their own affairs to worry about you and what you are wearing.

Serina Lynn :happy:

[Kristen Kelly]

I accept it's always a possibility Wendy...as it is at work...but what the Hell.!!!...they might "think" they know...but until I tell them..or they see me dressed then...it will always be a "maybe". Personally I don't care much...but my wife would find it difficult I think...she is very accepting and supportive of Nikki....finds fascination in it to be honest..but knowing all the neighbours knew, then I think that would be a step too far...for now.!!!..I am the eternal optimist.!!!
Nikki. x

Thats why I have fences...It makes for good neighbours, If they were to confront me with it, I would Have to educate them.

[Lisa Maren]

I think it's rather unlikely that my neighbors know, but I don't delude myself that it couldn't happen. Of course it could. I am still careful about it. If I'm home alone and plan to be walking around the house I close the blinds only in the strategic windows and such.

I don't care if people know, since I'm not embarassed about myself. I like myself pretty well, actually and I wouldn't want to be anyone else.

I do fear being discovered for a different reason, though. The other day I'd locked my bedroom door because I wanted to slip into a skirt and a pair of tights and didn't want to worry about anyone walking in. Mom knocked on the door, of course, and I told her I needed to get my laptop off my lap and "unensconce" myself. She didn't seem like she felt anything was up so she may have believed me. I have been studying hard for the GRE though (need it for grad school) and I told her I'd locked the door because I didn't want to be interrupted (hint hint). lol It's a perfectly valid reason to lock one's door (if a bit uncharacteristic) and that may be why she (ostensibly) believed it.

Anyway, my parents will likely have a hard time with this. They're so damned traditional. For instance, my father refuses to wear bluejeans. Even if he's painting a room he wears a pair of old Dockers. Seriously! I'm less certain of my siblings, but I don't imagine it being easy for everyone and I'm afraid to face that, I guess. I don't know really how they'll take it. Sometimes it seems my dad has trouble understanding or believing my ADHD, so this may not go much better with him. He has difficulty understanding others, unfortunately.

Oh well. I still love them. They do have good hearts.

Hugs,
Lisa

[susiej]

Chicas,

One of us, earlier in this thread, said her neighbor told her, "why did you change clothes, you looked fine the way you were" (or words to that effect).

It occurs to me that we, in our fear of discovery, or guilt/shame, may overemphasize the importance of what we do. That neighbor clearly represented the opposite viewpoint -- hopefully the wave of the future. "Oh, honey, you looked a lot better with the lipstick on than having hastily wiped it off!" :).

This is another piece of encouraging evidence in my view -- in another generation, we'll be another sub-gender, like gays and lesbians, and we'll have our matrix of compatible sub-genders, and websites to find each other. Click the boxes, and be connected with somebody who gets hot over the idea of a girlfriend who's not the least a "professional", but whose gender is chosen, as opposed to naturally selected.

Of all the potential reasons, this is truly the only one that make me envious of y'all who are younger than I. My fervent hope is that mine is the last closeted generation; yours is the first one liberated!

Hugs,
Susie

[Francine]

I'm not sure about my neighbors, but a few co-workers might have suspicions. Just yesterday one of our accountants had made a remark and referred to me as a "lady" (or at least that's what I thought I heard). I was making a pot of coffee and cleaning the counter just a bit in our small breakroom. (seems like I'm the only one that does sometimes) and she walked in and said.. "Oh, ... my favorite lady in the kitchen!". (I think she said it because I was making the coffee..again)
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I'm starting to think she might have suspicions, but her comment sure surprised me, to the point I was just speechless!

Some times I do wonder, about the neigbors, and family members..and just how much they know!

Francine

[panty-boy]

I think my wife knows, but I have a hard time telling. A few things have happened over the years. For me, you have to beat me over the head with clues before I'll get it. Maybe you can tell me if you think she knows...

1. 10 years ago when we were in college she dressed me and a friend and we went to a rave party.
2. One year for halloween, I dressed as a superhero in a red bodysuit, girls striped boy shorts and frilly anklet socks. That night I slept with the socks on.
3. My wife and I sold panties on eBay and there was a period of time I wore panties because I told her "They are more comfortable"
4. She went to check her email and the stupid browser pre-filled "[email protected]" She asked me "Who is panty boy?" To which I responded that it was probably one of the guests at the party we hosted a few nights before.
5. She has mentioned more than once that sometimes I act more like a girl than she does.
6. She thinks it would be sexy if I got my ears pierced.
7. She is accepting of the fact that all my jeans are womens because the low-rise ones really do fit better.

Now that I write it all down, the answer kind of seems like, YES! OF COURSE SHE KNOWS, OPEN YOUR EYES! The thing is she was brought up very conservatively, and can less than open especially sexually. She puts up with so much from me, I'm afraid to add another quirk.

[Penny]

I am absolutely sure nobody knows even though I run errands in broad daylight, take trash to the curb every week, go accross the yard to get the mail, shop in the neighborhood stores and the windowblinds are usually open
day and night plus I answer the door. Yes, I'm sure nobody knows!

[joanlynn28]

Yes they all know, I made the mistake of showing a coworker's wife my toenails at a baseball game. After all she is a nail technitian, and I told her all about my transgender issue. Unfortunately it turns out that she and her husband are friends of my future exwife's uncle and the word got out about me to her family. And now I know for sure that some of my coworkers diffenently know the truth about me. And I also suspect that one coworker in particular saw me and my girlfriend out having dinner and drinks one night because I know that he lives in the part of town that I was in. And I can tell my coworkers know by the comments that are directed towards me. So of the signs I have given have been my pierced ears I wear 24/7, growing my hair out, and a few times I wore my artificial nails to work. And do I really care what is said about me, not at all. I wish that my coworkers would just come out and ask me directly, but I know they won't because they are not man enough to. In truth I just want to tell everyone and get it over with, so I can move on. And if you really want to know what the neighbors think wait what is in store for them. There is going to be two attractive lesbians that are moving right across from the two T-girls. Are they going to have something to talk about or what?

[Melissa Ryan]

My neighbours overlook our yard. I know they have seen me dressed. I dont know if they know its me, I spose they must. It doesnt bother me at all. I have driven past my other neighbor, our driveways are one. He just looked and thats it. I have told him before that there are things I do that he might think are strange, but thats just me. He said then that there wasnt anything he was worried about. His wife sees me goin for the mail all the time too. I guess its none of their business, so they leave it all alone.:happy:

[KarenNY]

My current neighbors don't know a thing because I don't dress very often now and I haven't left the house en femme in years. But there were a couple of incidents that made me realize that former neighbors knew more. When I lived in my own apartment before I met my wife, a couple of people in my building knew about Karen, including the little old lady on the first floor (of three, it was an old Victorian mansion converted into six apartments) who was the caretaker. She thought it was a hoot and invited me for tea as Karen several times. I even showed myself off to her in my wedding gown, all dolled up -- she came up to see when I called her and she loved it, and said "Oh your mother should see you!" (of course, my mother already had, lol) And there was a nice 20-something girl about my age who didn't seem to care it was me that passed her on the stairs wearing a nice dress or skirt suit -- she smiled and said hi, and told me later she knew it was me, she had seen me come out of my apartment as Karen before. But she moved a few months later, before we had a chance to be better friends.

And back when I was a teenager, I dressed a lot more often, sometimes daily or for a few days in a row (my mother was accepting and supportive, as I have explained). Thus, I was often leaving the house with my mother or a couple of close GG friends of mine who knew about my Karen side. We only had neighbors to either side (just woods across the street) and a couple of the houses on my street also harbored kids about my age. An incident when I was younger kind of made me a little paranoid. When I was about 12 or 13, a bunch of us were outside playing, and this girl who lived a couple houses away who was a couple years younger than me mentioned to the others that she had seen wearing my mother's clothes and wearing a wig. Of course I denied it, it was her word against mine. It was true, of course, or actually, I was probably wearing my own girls clothes that my mother had gotten for me. But it ticked me off that she had obviously been peeking in the windows of my house. Anyway, the subject didn't come back up again, but it made me paranoid for a while that summer. When I started leaving the house en femme when I was about 15, I was a little more careful to make sure no one was outside. After a while though, I stopped caring who saw me en femme, so I pretty much came and went as a girl at will if I so chose.

[Lilith Moon]

My wife knows, nobody else does....or do they ? Here are a few close calls I have had...

I have briefly been almost face-face with an ex-neighbour while dressed. She sort of looked briefly and then carried on with her gardening. Since we moved we have kept in touch with this lovely lady and she has never once mentioned our little encounter. Maybe she thought it was my wife...I was wearing a leather jacket similar to one my wife wears.

I have also been face-face with my sister-in-law. We exchanged glances while passing each other in cars a few years ago while I was dressed. I saw her recognise the car and briefly look at me as she passed. This woman is a bitch who would be delighted to tell *everyone* if she thought it would harm me. But, for some reason, I've heard nothing.

Then the most "interesting" incident. I was dressed at a remote site at work. It was late afternoon and I was sure nobody would turn up. I decided to have a sexy fetish dressup session with my new latex dress before I went home. I stepped out of the building in my 3 inch heels, fishnets and tight dress only to see my boss's boss walking up the driveway ! He stopped in his tracks and I disappeared inside in a blind panic to do my quick change routine. I'm sure many of you are also experts at this. Well, I waited and waited but the guy never did appear at the door and I wondered what sort of reception I would get next time I visited our central office. Amazingly, I never did get any indication of anything unusual from my co-workers for the remaining years I worked with them. Maybe the guy wasn't sure who he saw. I don't know...

[Melissa A.]

I know some neighbors know as I am not real careful or bashful about going out and getting the mail or getting in my car for a drive. Guess I just don't care. Having said that, I won't purposely put someone in the position of bumping right into me or go outside when their kids are right there. You have to be considerate about these things... Knowing and seeing up close are two different things. I don't want to make anyone uncomfortable. But I really, really don't care who knows.

Hugs,

Melissa:happy:

[serinalynn]

:heehee: More from a previous post; other people who know the Sales Associates at a Lane Bryant store I shop at, The S/A of a Torrid store I frequent. and some of the lady shoppers I pass in th mall. Maybe the lady shoppers like to see my baby doll tops and plunge bras. Only my wife has ever said anything to me about my clothes when I go shopping with her. She also dos not like to see me wearing a bra even though I can fill the cups (44B)She thinks bras are gender specific and men are not to wear them.

[Cristi]

I think I've been giving of subtle (and not so subtle) signs for a long time. It is almost as if deep down I am just tired of being secretive and want it to be over.

In one house I lived in, I wasn't too careful about being out in the yard dressed and am SURE my neighbors caught sight of me at least a few times, but I never heard anything from them. I've also had visitors come to the door (with a window) and knock, then wait very patiently while I frantically stripped off the dress I was wearing and scrambled to find some pants to put on.

Of course, there is also the halloween party where the major topic of conversation for several minutes was how WELL I was walking in 4" heels after saying I'd never worn women's shoes before that night! If I had thought quicker, I would have stumbled a few times or wobbled a bit. :)

I also wear tights most of the Winter instead of socks, and I'm sure that at least some people can tell the difference when they look at my shoes!

All in all, I wouldn't be surprised if I finally 'came out' and the reaction was a 'tell us something we don't know'!

In the long run, I don't think I care if anybody knows about me... I just worry about the stress of negative reactions. So if everybody knows, and I KNOW that they know, but they may or may not know I know that they know... .'ya know?