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CaptLex
10-09-2006, 11:32 AM
Just for fun, I want to know what you like about being a guy. This question is open for all who identify this way (even if it's part of the time), but if you don't identify with it at all, if you'd like, you can tell us what you like about guys (assuming you like anything about them). :heehee:

Okay, I'll start:

1. I like how much more confidence I have as a guy.

2. I like that I'm much less emotional (or more emotionally stable) as a guy.

3. I like that other guys stop talking down to me or patronizing me when they realize I'm a guy.

4. To add to that: other guys really open up to me and let their guard down around me now.

5. I like that I now smell like a guy (it's intoxicating!). :D

6. I like that I can finally let all my guy mannerisms out without worrying about how it appears to others.

7. And I like the way I look as a guy - I'm finally starting to look like me.

I'm sure there's more, but that's it off the top of my head. Anyone else?

Edit - Oh, and I just thought of another one (how could I forget?) - I really like my enhanced libido!

Shadowls
10-09-2006, 12:49 PM
I guess tomboy works also (hardly a girl, but the chick that's one of the guys)



1. i don't have to be prim and proper. (very old school mentality from my own)
2. other people don't cring when they realize that the pritty little girl has and mind and toung as sharp as a blade and knows how to wield it like a sword.
3. finoly learning first hand the guys are simple creatures
4. the pride and confadence that comes from knowing that i earned every thing that i call mine, throught work, love, or respect. (i didn't bat my eyes lashes and let my body get it for me)
5. the look on a bud's face when he relizes that no matter how much of a guy i am and am still truely and always be a chick.
6. i have less to worry about

MJ
10-09-2006, 02:54 PM
thank you captLex but just for fun if you dont mind my input here being a guy...

for me :- it sucks

1, i had no confidence

2, just because i have a kick stand. I was never a guy !!!

3, i never felt like i was in the boys club

4, guys are somewhat simple

5, guys smell real bad

6, Girls rule

thanks

hugs Marissa xxx

Felix
10-09-2006, 03:06 PM
Ok here goes:-

1 Since trying to bring my inner self more to the surface I have been twice and three times more congident.

2 It has raised my self esteem.

3 I won't take no crap of ppl anymore.

4 I like my muscles, I want more!

5 I like being in control of my own body.

6 I like it when ppl call me sir or mate and say you look like a boy.

7 I like being more in control of my emotions.

Think thats about all I can think of for now peeps :hugs:

CaptLex
10-09-2006, 04:12 PM
thank you captLex but just for fun if you dont mind my input here being a guy...

for me :- it sucks
Marissa,

I don't mind your input as long as it follows my request - that is, the title of this thread. It's supposed to be about what people LIKE about guys. There are plenty of threads on the the MtF side that list what people don't like about 'em. :naughty

P.S. Trust me . . . this boy does not smell bad.

Agles
10-09-2006, 07:50 PM
wow this is a good read.
anyway for me as a guy

1 im very emotionaly closed

2 i half to take the hit get back up and take it again. that's what being a man is about

3 im expected to do things such as kill ugly little bugs deal with rodents and other nastys

4 to be able to defend those around me... this im ok with would

5 funny thing. at work i get no respect when it comes to my ideas. im the only guy there. SEXESTS!!!

6 i hate SIR, and even worse sometimes i think people know it and use it against me. (side note, someone who is knighted even a female is still called sir. or atleast i think that's right)

7 i cant have long hair and make it look nice.

8 the sex drive, though this could be a good thing. being alone makes it a bad thing.

9 im expected to go to war if there is a draft and my sister isnt why is my life worth so much less?

10 well i made it to 9. cant end on 9 got to make 10. a nice round number. wait non of you made it this far. wow this makes this matter even more.. 10th thing about being guy i hate.. wow i keep thinking of what i like as a girl to come up with a cross over item.

im expected to like sports to have a fave team to care with someone is winning or losing. to say "i can care less" would be to say i care. so i couldnt care any lesser.

10 ya ho :tongueout i beat you all... even CaptLex

hay i got an idea.. lets flip it. "What I Like About Being a Girl" then you guys can come over to the M2F forum and complain over there. we wont mind or bite. we may snugle but thats all:hugs:

and no not all guys smell bad. just that the ones who do really do smell bad.

='.'=
Jamie

CaptLex
10-09-2006, 08:20 PM
hay i got an idea.. lets flip it. "What I Like About Being a Girl" then you guys can come over to the M2F forum and complain over there.
:Pullhair: No, no, no! This thread is not for complaining about being a guy. There are plenty of male-bashing threads already, which is what inspired me to start this one . . . to show the flip side of it - the good points. Just about every thread on the MtF side already talks about what's so good about being a girl. :rolleyes:

Kieron Andrew
10-09-2006, 08:24 PM
What i like about being a guy is im at peace! im me!.....plain, simple, easy......plus yes my confidence is better as 'him'.........im able to love myself as him which in turn makes me able to love my partner so much better

CaptLex
10-09-2006, 08:35 PM
What i like about being a guy is im at peace! im me!.....plain, simple, easy......plus yes my confidence is better as 'him'.........im able to love myself as him which in turn makes me able to love my partner so much better
Ah yes, thank you Kieron, I had forgotten that one too . . . I really like myself now - something I didn't even realize I was missing before. :thumbsup:

Kieron Andrew
10-09-2006, 08:53 PM
Dont get me wrong Capt. I still hate what I see in the mirror, and i think i will until i am able to make physical changes, but the inner me has been allowed to be set free cos I allowed it! so therefore im the one in control of me, of my destiny! so im half way to being the whole me! the road is easier now that i see the end of it, not just another fork in the road (hope this makes sense!), i like the man im becoming, 'he' is a much nicer person to know than 'her'

CaptLex
10-09-2006, 09:10 PM
Dont get me wrong Capt. I still hate what I see in the mirror, and i think i will until i am able to make physical changes, but the inner me has been allowed to be set free cos I allowed it! so therefore im the one in control of me, of my destiny! so im half way to being the whole me! the road is easier now that i see the end of it, not just another fork in the road (hope this makes sense!), i like the man im becoming, 'he' is a much nicer person to know than 'her'
:iagree: Yup, it makes total sense. And I can absolutely relate to all that you said. Now that I've started going in the right direction, I'm a lot happier with me and what I'm becoming too. It's such a great feeling to be in charge - the captain of my own destiny.

Sejd
10-09-2006, 09:50 PM
OK, there are lots of things I like about being a guy despite my new experience as a femme.
I like walking up to a couple of good men and grunt and fart with them and say few words which says it all. the bonding between men sometimes can run very deep and solid. I like that.
I like being able to fix things my SO cannot fix
It's easier to stand up to pee, although it is more fun to fluff the skirt foreward and sit down.
Among other things LOL
hugs
Sejd

Stacy GG
10-10-2006, 12:27 AM
well, I know you said no bashing, and I wouldn't say I'm a cd'er but these are some things I liked being able to do with just guys as friends ( like one of the guys)

I like watching a really awful porn with the guys ( they are so fun to make fun of )

I like being able to not wear makeup

It's okay to burp or fart and not say excuse me :P

If I look like I rolled out bed, no one cares

I don't have to get all dressed up to go drinking :thumbsup:

If my clothes don't match no one whispers about you behind your back ^^

Abraxas
10-10-2006, 02:33 AM
1. People don't worry about offending me by using foul language or burping or taking a leak on a tree when I'm around. And I can do the same.

2. I can wrestle and drink with the guys and don't feel left out, or feel like they're going easy on me.

3. I'm not expected to be neat and tidy, or even, for that matter, hygeinic lol.

4. If I don't feel like fixing my hair I can throw on a baseball cap and nobody cares.

5. The underwear and clothes in general are SO much more comfortable and long-wearing.

6. I can play sports, blast heavy metal music, or ride a motorcycle without anyone batting an eyelid or telling me it's not 'ladylike'-- screw that!

7. I'm not expected to get all PMS-y or oversensitive.

8. A pair of Doc Martens or motorbike boots look good with pretty much anything.

9. My socks don't have to match my shirt.

10. I don't have to carry a purse. Everything I need fits conveniently in my wallet or my pockets.

11. No makeup.

12. I get extra brownie points for being good with kids and animals, or being sensitive.

13. My friends don't ring me expecting me to talk to them for hours-- they know that 10 minutes is too long!

14. No gossiping about who's dating who, who's gained weight, or did you see the shirt so-and-so was wearing.

15. If I get a flat tire in the middle of nowhere, I can change it!

16. I don't feel guilty about watching porn or anything that goes along with that :p

17. Yes, I can sit down with a beer and buffalo wings and watch TV all night, thanks.

Kate Simmons
10-10-2006, 03:55 AM
:Pullhair: No, no, no! This thread is not for complaining about being a guy. There are plenty of male-bashing threads already, which is what inspired me to start this one . . . to show the flip side of it - the good points. Just about every thread on the MtF side already talks about what's so good about being a girl. :rolleyes:Thanks, Captlex, Keep them on track. I really want to see some honest input on this one. Ericka

swiss_susan
10-10-2006, 04:54 AM
Well there are many benefits to being a guy,

I can drink a pint without a snob like my mom looking down and calling me "common" I don't know why she finds that to be unladylike.

Shorter lines waiting for the restroom. :D

When I go to the DIY store the staff don't assume I am in need of help and let me shop in peace.

I get to vent my frustration by playing rugby, and standing on people :p

Xaff
10-10-2006, 08:22 AM
Lets see.....

1. Cloths are much nicer/cooler.
2. Cloths are comfortable.
3. No stupid talk (Dutch: roddels) about something that doesn't matter. (Your hair, look, clothing doesn't fit stuff, gained weight)
4. You can be a lot ruder in public.
5. Nowhan looks strange if you don't do your hair tomorow.
6. You don't have to weare high heels, or dresses in some jobs.

There are defenetly more. But I can't make that up for know yet.
Or maybe:

7. I feel much better as a guy, and I dare much more to do. I feel better about myself.

JenniferMint
10-10-2006, 09:02 AM
I'm M2F TG, but when I was living as a normal cisgendered male:

* I was more confident (or stubborn).
* I spent much less time worrying about my physical appearance.
* I was pretty antisocial (still am towards strangers) and it's easier to be left alone as a guy.

One time while out en femme I was standing on the side of the street reading a map, and some guy comes up to me, addresses me as "baby" (that made me uncomfortable---I don't know him and he's being overly familiar to me) and asked if I needed help with directions. I said I'm fine, but HE JUST STANDS THERE LOOKING AT ME! I finally decide to walk away just to get away from him, even though I hadn't finished studying the map.

CaptLex
10-10-2006, 09:17 AM
Shorter lines waiting for the restroom. :D
Ain't it the truth! I experienced this just the other day: I attended a wedding (in a suit and tie, of course) and when it came time to visit the little sailors' room, I went to the gents. No line there, but the ladies room line was winding up the staircase. It was wonderful. :thumbsup:

bi_weird
10-10-2006, 09:27 AM
I'm so much more confident and in control of my emotions when I'm in guy mode. Even though I don't pass (and that's probably a good thing still) I'm still the man of the house and I like being able to fix things and all that jazz. It's simpler in guy mode. And mostly, some days it's just really much me.

Lisa Golightly
10-10-2006, 09:48 AM
You've missed the best one people... You can stare vacantly into space and a girl will do what ever you were originally asked to do... Ah, I was very good at that one in my youth... 'Could you just... Gawd, just look at him... eyes glazed over, it's like living with Homer Simpson!' ;)

That's not bashing by the by... I saw that as THE positive highlight of being a boy :)

Shadowls
10-10-2006, 10:43 AM
Stacy GG:

that's why i'm a tomboy :happy:

Agles
10-10-2006, 10:48 AM
:Pullhair: No, no, no! This thread is not for complaining about being a guy. There are plenty of male-bashing threads already, which is what inspired me to start this one . . . to show the flip side of it - the good points. Just about every thread on the MtF side already talks about what's so good about being a girl. :rolleyes:

i ment other way around as in Female bashing.. thought you guys would have as much fun as i did with that. though there are some good points in there. like the draft and and the whole sexest thing with the women i work with.

i didnt mean to make you made. though pulling your hair like that will make you go bold unless you want that. i dont, even as a guy.

='.'=
Jamie

CaptLex
10-10-2006, 11:35 AM
i didnt mean to make you made. though pulling your hair like that will make you go bold unless you want that. i dont, even as a guy.
Don't worry, Jamie, my hair will survive a little tug here and there - as long as the testosterone doesn't cause it fall out. I'm not really mad - just frustrated. For the record, although I prefer being male to being female, I wouldn't do any female-bashing. Some of my best friends are female. :koc:

Felix
10-10-2006, 03:03 PM
LOL well I'm sure I didn't bash what is good about my male side I think I was very positive. Maybe my input just got lost amongst the negative comments!!

Lisa Golightly
10-10-2006, 03:06 PM
I always feel safe amongst guys I know... They tend to look out for me :) Maybe it's a bit of an old fashioned concept, but then deep down I'm kind of an old fashioned gal ;)

CaptLex
10-10-2006, 03:06 PM
LOL well I'm sure I didn't bash what is good about my male side I think I was very positive. Maybe my input just got lost amongst the negative comments!!
No, Felix, your post (#4 above) was right on the money - all stuff I can relate to, by the way. :thumbsup:

sparks
10-10-2006, 03:10 PM
The variety of toys Ex) GI Joe as opposed to Polly pockets
The variety of Comic books! Spiderman as opposed to Veronica

I'm sure there is more but I'm stretching as it is.:D

CaptLex
10-10-2006, 03:21 PM
I always feel safe amongst guys I know... They tend to look out for me :) Maybe it's a bit of an old fashioned concept, but then deep down I'm kind of an old fashioned gal ;)
Good point, Lisa. And to add to that . . . I tend to feel safer out and about as a guy - less likely to be accosted by some neanderthal.


The variety of toys Ex) GI Joe as opposed to Polly pockets
The variety of Comic books! Spiderman as opposed to Veronica
Ah yes, Sparks, I love the toys! I wasn't really allowed to play with them as a kid, but I made up for it when I had my son. :devil:

Abraxas
10-10-2006, 03:33 PM
Agreed with the 'safe' thing. My mum doesn't like me going out (walking) at night cos she's afraid I'll get kidnapped and raped or something. But I don't think so really, because if people think I'm a guy, they're more likely to leave me alone. Unless I were to get mugged, but then, I don't have any money anyway lol

Stacy GG
10-11-2006, 12:34 AM
Stacy GG:

that's why i'm a tomboy :happy:

Some people have told me I am a tomboy, I'm not sure...one way or the other.

boi_0h
10-11-2006, 11:26 AM
I like the empowerment of finally being able to be me, even though I'm a pre-everything FTM, presenting makes me able to finally be proud of myself. :GD:

Kieron Andrew
10-11-2006, 11:32 AM
I like the empowerment of finally being able to be me, even though I'm a pre-everything FTM, presenting makes me able to finally be proud of myself. :GD:ooooh ello Shaun, go do an intro thread and tell us about you....welcome to CD.com

CaptLex
10-11-2006, 12:02 PM
I like the empowerment of finally being able to be me, even though I'm a pre-everything FTM, presenting makes me able to finally be proud of myself. :GD:
Hi, Shaun, and welcome! :wave2: Make yourself at home and get comfortable. We have nice, friendly folks here - and all the rum you can drink! :D

Tree GG
10-11-2006, 01:14 PM
You've missed the best one people... You can stare vacantly into space and a girl will do what ever you were originally asked to do... Ah, I was very good at that one in my youth... 'Could you just... Gawd, just look at him... eyes glazed over, it's like living with Homer Simpson!' ;)

That's not bashing by the by... I saw that as THE positive highlight of being a boy :)

LoL :heehee:

To quote Bill Cosby, "It takes brilliance to be that stupid"

(No bashing intended - honest:D )

boi_0h
10-11-2006, 07:48 PM
Hi, Shaun, and welcome! :wave2: Make yourself at home and get comfortable. We have nice, friendly folks here - and all the rum you can drink! :D

SWEET!!:D and thanks for the welcomes everyone

Evert
10-12-2006, 03:16 PM
I also like the fact of being "safe". Which is good because I am a night person. I just love the city at 01:00 a.m.

And some things are just soooo easy. No trouble about matching my socks to my earrings to my eyes to my dress.. :P

Debb
10-16-2006, 11:41 AM
Dont get me wrong Capt. I still hate what I see in the mirror, and i think i will until i am able to make physical changes, but the inner me has been allowed to be set free cos I allowed it! so therefore im the one in control of me, of my destiny! so im half way to being the whole me! the road is easier now that i see the end of it, not just another fork in the road (hope this makes sense!), i like the man im becoming, 'he' is a much nicer person to know than 'her'

I just wanted to point this out:


but the inner me has been allowed to be set free cos I allowed it!


Absolutely! Hear Hear!

to contribute:

(I am a guy)

The convenience of bed-head. Hats on guys are expected, even indoors.

Relative anonymity. Like it or not, men are less noticed in crowds.

Safety. Alone or in numbers, nobody messes with me as a man, even though I am only 5-feet 4-inches tall, and look slightly girlish.

I was gonna say "being handy around the house" but that's really a personality thing, not necessarily a "man" thing.

I am not expected to consider others' feelings as a guy. When / if I do, that's a bonus worthy of congratulation.

I am not expected to smell nice, or even decent for that matter. Again, when / if I do, that's a bonus.

No matter where hair grows on my body, I don't have to shave it off to avoid being an "outsider".

There are probably more, but my mind is a limited-capacity, male, mind. :p

Poltergeist
10-24-2006, 05:23 PM
The best thing is probably all the things I'm "allowed" to do that woman aren't... and even though I don't think anyone sees me as a guy, I'm masculine enough for them not to care. I don't have to act like a lady :)

Beth-GDB
10-25-2006, 11:54 PM
Being able to burp the national anthem is considered "cool" by your peers. :D

eleventhdr
10-26-2006, 01:54 AM
Being a guy is not what you think it is I have been one all of this lifetime and would give it up like a shot to be completly comfortable as a girl.

Girls are much better in a lot of way's

Oh sure none of us are ever perfect but then who really want's that anyway!

Jay Suzy!

CaptLex
10-26-2006, 07:37 AM
Being a guy is not what you think it is I have been one all of this lifetime and would give it up like a shot to be completly comfortable as a girl.

Did you ever think that maybe being a girl is not what you think it is. And how do you know what I think being a guy is? That's a lot to presume. You be what you want to be, and I'll be what I want to be - no judgements. :rolleyes:

Stacy GG
10-26-2006, 02:06 PM
Did you ever think that maybe being a girl is not what you think it is. And how do you know what I think being a guy is? That's a lot to presume. You be what you want to be, and I'll be what I want to be - no judgements. :rolleyes:
Right on !! :iagree:
that being said, being a girl is not all love and kittens :)

Julie York
10-26-2006, 04:57 PM
This is a very interesting thread because it's wobbling all over the place.

The concept of being male or female seems to have two parts. 1) What society expects of you. 2) What you expect of yourself given your born gender.

Three parts, sorry.

(No-one expects the Spanish Inquisition!)

Three parts! Society! Expectation and Stereotype.

"I don't have to look nice or care what my hair looks like" is what someone assumes society is expecting of them. A woman just might not give a damn what her hair looks like (and I have known a few).

Or "I feel less likely to be attacked" is more to do with physical expectations. It is easier for someone to attack someone else perceived to be weaker (until they take on a black belt woman.)

"I can put up shelves" is not a natural gift that men are born with, anymore than women know how to be Mothers.

So....
To answer your question...

What I like being a guy is.....

Society doesn't expect me to be well turned out to be attractive so I can be relaxed about how I dress and be forgiven.

Expectation means I just might inflict physical violence if you push it too far, so there is always a line which men are aware of (whether I would or not).

Stereotype means that people assume I know what they are talking about if it involves petrol, electicity or sport. (more fool them)

JennaKnots
10-28-2006, 12:05 AM
Just for fun, I want to know what you like about being a guy. This question is open for all who identify this way (even if it's part of the time), but if you don't identify with it at all, if you'd like, you can tell us what you like about guys (assuming you like anything about them). :heehee:

10. Being able to lift heavy things and fix stuff.
9. Most of the time not being afraid when walking to my car or taking the subway.
8. Guys are still considered good-looking as they age. Some women are too, but they're much more likely to be considered less attractive as they age then men.
7. It's so much easier in the day to day - no eyebrows are raised when I don't cook, clean, shop and even shave. Not so for many gals.
6. Girls wanna tame you - and, boy do I love to be tamed.
5. Anytime you make even a little effort to do something romantic and thoughtful, you are appreciated and praised.
4. Nice to be tended to by a beautiful woman.
3. I can pee virtually anywear.
2. You can drink a real lot before someone calls you on it (sadly, I've reached that plateau more than I care to mention).
and, finally....the number one thing about being a guy is...
(drumroll)...
1. You can have sex as often and with as many as you want and will be praised a "stud" rather than ostracized as a "****".


OK - now it's you're turn. Surely there are some finer points to being a girl....?

CaptLex
11-03-2006, 01:37 PM
Thanks, Jenna - all good points. :clap:


OK - now it's you're turn. Surely there are some finer points to being a girl....?
Sure, tons of them, but it's been done to death on this site. :tongueout

Angela Burke
11-03-2006, 03:01 PM
Well it's the clothes obviously you big girls blouse!

myMichelle
11-03-2006, 03:02 PM
Here's one I bet nobody has mentioned:

As a guy, it's ok--even acceptable--to have grey hair! (I'm totally ok w/this BTW since I'll be predominently grey within the next ten years!)

pocoyo
11-06-2006, 03:09 PM
Just for fun, I want to know what you like about being a guy. This question is open for all who identify this way (even if it's part of the time), but if you don't identify with it at all, if you'd like, you can tell us what you like about guys (assuming you like anything about them). :heehee:

Okay, I'll start:

1. I like how much more confidence I have as a guy.

2. I like that I'm much less emotional (or more emotionally stable) as a guy.

3. I like that other guys stop talking down to me or patronizing me when they realize I'm a guy.

4. To add to that: other guys really open up to me and let their guard down around me now.

5. I like that I now smell like a guy (it's intoxicating!). :D

6. I like that I can finally let all my guy mannerisms out without worrying about how it appears to others.

7. And I like the way I look as a guy - I'm finally starting to look like me.

I'm sure there's more, but that's it off the top of my head. Anyone else?

Edit - Oh, and I just thought of another one (how could I forget?) - I really like my enhanced libido!


I so identify with those!

Here are some of mine:

1) I can be far less shy when discussing sex and not feel guilty or gross about being a sexual being.
2) I can be less shy in general.
3) I enjoy how I look as a guy and can see the potential of how I would look on T... and I like it, a lot. (The real me?!!)
4) I really like the person I am as a guy.
5) I can be the rough and disgusting, clumsy person I feel I am inside without feeling embarrased lol!
6) I would enjoy sex much more as a guy
7) As a guy I wouldn't have to suffer hearing disgusting obscene things from people about my body and if I did I'd probably like it because I'd be proud of my guy body anyway!
8) As a girl it can be good to be really slim but guys with a belly are often well cute so it doesn't matter if you put a bit of weight on. Also it's easier to lose weight if you are a guy.
9) When you put on weight as a boy it's on your belly rather than curvy hips ass and boobs (yeurk!)
10) I enjoy being desired as a guy. It feels natural and sexy and good.

tekla west
11-10-2006, 05:28 PM
Having the best of both worlds (so I have seen both sides) what I like about my guy side is ... (besides the obvious of being able to pee out of a moving car at 65 mph)

-I like being able to use violence to solve some basic human interaction problems, what the heck, it works at times
-I like that after working 13 hours of manual labor taking a shower is still optional, not a necessity
-Not washed? Not Ironed? Not a problem.
-beer is one of the basic food groups
-speed limits are for sissys
-hardware stores - the power tool section in particular
-I can fix anything (or break it beyond the point of repair)
-I like the way men relate to other men far more than the way women relate with each other
-that I can rock with my c*ck out
-being able to walk any damn place I choose without fear
-using phrases like: "yeah, you and whose army?", "What are you looking at f*ckface?", and "Who'se gonna make me?" and meaning it
-Camping, rock climbing and playing with pyrotechnics
-never having to worry that the house is not clean enough for company

CaptLex
11-10-2006, 08:25 PM
Having the best of both worlds (so I have seen both sides) what I like about my guy side is ... (besides the obvious of being able to pee out of a moving car at 65 mph)

-I like being able to use violence to solve some basic human interaction problems, what the heck, it works at times
-I like that after working 13 hours of manual labor taking a shower is still optional, not a necessity
-Not washed? Not Ironed? Not a problem.
-beer is one of the basic food groups
-speed limits are for sissys
-hardware stores - the power tool section in particular
-I can fix anything (or break it beyond the point of repair)
-I like the way men relate to other men far more than the way women relate with each other
-that I can rock with my c*ck out
-being able to walk any damn place I choose without fear
-using phrases like: "yeah, you and whose army?", "What are you looking at f*ckface?", and "Who'se gonna make me?" and meaning it
-Camping, rock climbing and playing with pyrotechnics
-never having to worry that the house is not clean enough for company
My, my, Kat . . . such unladylike behavior - I love it! :heehee:

tekla west
11-10-2006, 10:18 PM
"curtsy"

Kate Simmons
11-11-2006, 06:52 AM
Guy/girl. Same thing, no? Only the appearance of the "plumbing" has been changed to protect the innocent.:heehee: Ericka/Rich

pocoyo
01-10-2007, 12:02 PM
Seeing as there has been a recent spate of SOME, just a few mtf's saying
"Eww... why would anyone want to be a maaann??"
I thought I would resurrect this thread.

For once I'm not even going to hold back and not going to be as sensitive as usual and will just say things in the same style they do, but from my perspective.

Why boobs aren't so great, and more...

YUCK... why would anyone want boobs?? They are disgusting, mounds of FLESH that wobble around and look SICK. Even under T-shirts.
It makes me feel very angry and disgusted having them. Not just the look of them but the FEEL of having them.

Having boobs, makes me feel fat. They take up FAR too much of my body. I would look like a real slim little lad if it wasn't for these UGLY GELATINOUS WHOPPERS on my chest.

Not only THAT. If I wear a T shirt with NO BRA. I have the DISGUSTING view and sensation of these stupid mountains waggling around horribly in front of me. Sometimes. I even HIT my boobs. I get THAT angry with them.

And who would want someone to stare at your chest which you are already so embarrased about. And worst... worst of all... who would want someone to GRAB YOUR HIDEOUS CHEST??? YUCK.

So just appreciate, you boob-loving/wanting MTF's (the ones that diss us boob-dislikers), not everyone likes boobs ok? Just as you lot may not like other things. We are just not usually rude enough to go on about it.

Not only that... Ewww.. why would anyone want a peachy/smooth face? Stubble/shadow/facial hair is so awesome.

Yuck, why would anyone want to wear fussy female clothes? They are so uncomfortable and restrictive and garish And ITCHY. ... ESPECIALLY PANTIES.

Who would want a stupid squeaky high/ladylike voice? YUCK. How silly. I'd much rather have a lovely mellow male one. Much better for giving commands to my dog and sounding sexy and singing how I want.

Who would want a stupid female part between their legs? Men parts are SO MUCH BETTER and so cool. Who WOULDN'T want a penis??

I could go on and on and on but I won't.

Oh, while I'm at it... why don't I just give a few tips on how to be a female?? (As I'm surely qualified as I have lived some parts of my life as a GG).
Argh...you know what? I can't even bring myself to do that because it is so insulting and mean and would be wrong. Strange how MTF's tell us "how to be men" often, without a second thought.


BTW... I do really understand the mtf reasons and can answer my own questions (e.g. Why would anyone want to wear female clothes). I was just being cross and facetious and showing that we understand mtf point of view so why don't mtf understand ours?

I also love so many MTF's. Just sometimes people can be a bit silly. And I was in a mood... I'm ok now. Phew.

I am very sorry for being rude but bah!
Sorry....

I know this is very stupid and ranty so moderators please to feel free to delete it. But perhaps some of these things need to be said (albeit in a more polite way).... but then, haven't they already been said already in polite ways over and over?.....

CaptLex
01-10-2007, 12:11 PM
I also love so many MTF's. Just sometimes people can be a bit silly. And I was in a mood... I'm ok now. Phew.

I am very sorry for being rude but bah!
Sorry....
Feelin' better, Poc? :itsok: I know sometimes it gets so frustrating that it's tempting to throw it all back at some people the same way they throw it at us, just to see if they can understand how they make us feel. :Punch:

pocoyo
01-10-2007, 12:19 PM
Feelin' better, Poc?
No I feel like a meany. :(


:itsok: I know sometimes it gets so frustrating that it's tempting to throw it all back at some people the same way they throw it at us, just to see if they can understand how they make us feel. :Punch:

That is exactly what it was, yeah.


I am SO SORRY .. even to the mtfs that are silly and insensitive. There was no need for me to be so rude!

I was a pr**k. I love you all really, even the one's that don't understand.

Kate Simmons
01-10-2007, 12:25 PM
Feelin' better, Poc? :itsok: I know sometimes it gets so frustrating that it's tempting to throw it all back at some people the same way they throw it at us, just to see if they can understand how they make us feel. :Punch:Ya know what Cap? The only "problem" I have with Poc's rant is that I totally agree with everything he said. So, what does that make me from a M T F perspective? Ericka/Rich, I guess, who else?;) :battingeyelashes:

CaptLex
01-10-2007, 12:59 PM
Ya know what Cap? The only "problem" I have with Poc's rant is that I totally agree with everything he said. So, what does that make me from a M T F perspective? Ericka/Rich, I guess, who else?;) :battingeyelashes:
From an MtF perspective, I can't say . . . but from my view it makes you an ally, and someone I'm glad to have in our corner. Oh and it also makes you the best rum wench in the Caribbean. :cheeky:

Deborah
01-10-2007, 01:06 PM
To be honest the one thing i do like about being a guy is i can stand up to pee lol. I hate sitting on a cold toilet seat.

Anything else to add is off topic. ;)

Stacy GG
01-10-2007, 01:15 PM
No I feel like a meany. :(



That is exactly what it was, yeah.


I am SO SORRY .. even to the mtfs that are silly and insensitive. There was no need for me to be so rude!

I was a pr**k. I love you all really, even the one's that don't understand.
hey I think it's perfectly within your rights to say what you did. The MTF have no right to go around saying we should all be super happy being women...it's not there place. If they want FTM to be accepting or heck even regular old ggs to be accepting..they should sit back and think before they post some of the crap they do. :eek: am I a meany now too?

John
01-10-2007, 01:19 PM
I'm not out, but the 'guy' things I do anyway:

-drinking bear in pints.
-porn.
-'iron? what the hells and iron?'
-not chainging to go out for a drink, and then:
-walking home alone, even though the rest of my friends always faf around trying to get another guy to walk me back.

Amy
01-10-2007, 02:19 PM
I know that this thread is probably ment just for ftm. Sorry guys but I wanted to add why I like being a guy too. It's rare we get to say how great it is to be male cause we might come off as being Shovenistic. Many of the things I list is not to say woman can't have these attrabutes but as a guy they carry a certain meaning.
1. first and formost cause that's who I am and who I'm ment to be.
2. independance. Men are expected to be self relient.
3. Strength, masquilinity is an awesome thing. Being able to work hard makes you feel good.
4. Poisterous, many have listed that being able to be crude or lude is exceptable in a man. Yeah, bulpings cool and all but it does not define a man. Yet we are able to live life loadly to an extent that is different then a woman.
5. A Gentleman, Being able to open doors for a girl and treating them with respect is an honnor. Girls should not denie men the opertunity to show curtisy.
6. It's fun, shooting hiking driving offroad exploring everything that is male at heart. For me it's funner being a man then I can imagine if I were a woman.
7. Being a provider, I believe in the traditional roles. It is an honnor to stand at the head of a home and have a wife at the heart.
8. Uncle, I love ruffhousing with my nephews; as an aunt, come on, no way.
9. Trustworthy, "a man is only as good as his word"
10. Protecter, goes along with being a provider and a gentleman we have the ablity to stand for what we think is right.
11. Respect, woman should be respected too. To be a man of charcter deserves respect.
12. Brotherhood, guys have fun together they aren't as emotional as wen girls get together.
There are tuns of reasons why I love being a man so why do I dress like a woman sometimes I have no fippin Idea.

CaptLex
01-10-2007, 02:35 PM
I know that this thread is probably ment just for ftm. Sorry guys but I wanted to add why I like being a guy too. It's rare we get to say how great it is to be male cause we might come off as being Shovenistic. Many of the things I list is not to say woman can't have these attrabutes but as a guy they carry a certain meaning. . . .There are tuns of reasons why I love being a man so why do I dress like a woman sometimes I have no fippin Idea.
Nice list there, Amy, your comments are welcome. And I like the last sentence. :heehee:

Kate Simmons
01-10-2007, 03:12 PM
Nice list there, Amy, your comments are welcome. And I like the last sentence. :heehee:My sentiments exactly folks. Still trying to figure that one out after almost 60 years.:doh:

kerrianna
01-10-2007, 05:41 PM
No I feel like a meany. :(

I am SO SORRY .. even to the mtfs that are silly and insensitive. There was no need for me to be so rude!

I was a pr**k. I love you all really, even the one's that don't understand.

Oooh, Poc! You're so sexy when you rant! :daydreaming: .
Don't apologize...you made my heart aflutter. :battingeyelashes: You'll be Captain soon, taking charge like that.

Now come here and put your head in my lap so I can soothe you. That's a good boy. :itsok:

pocoyo
01-10-2007, 06:12 PM
Ya know what Cap? The only "problem" I have with Poc's rant is that I totally agree with everything he said. So, what does that make me from a M T F perspective? Ericka/Rich, I guess, who else?;) :battingeyelashes:

Lol thanks EKR. You're a cool wench.


To be honest the one thing i do like about being a guy is i can stand up to pee lol. I hate sitting on a cold toilet seat.
*Shudders*


Anything else to add is off topic. ;)
*Wonders what that's all about!* :straightface:



hey I think it's perfectly within your rights to say what you did. Thank you very much.


The MTF have no right to go around saying we should all be super happy being women...it's not there place. If they want FTM to be accepting or heck even regular old ggs to be accepting..they should sit back and think before they post some of the crap they do. :eek: am I a meany now too?
That's right. Haha!! No you're not a meany!


Oooh, Poc! You're so sexy when you rant! :daydreaming: .
Don't apologize...you made my heart aflutter. :battingeyelashes: You'll be Captain soon, taking charge like that.

Now come here and put your head in my lap so I can soothe you. That's a good boy. :itsok:

LOL! Kerriana, you're wicked...

Melinda
01-10-2007, 06:14 PM
Well, as a born member of the kickstand club who only sometimes wants to detach the thing, I'll weigh in. There are lots of things I like about being a guy.

1. I control my emotions. They don't control me. Well, moreso than most genetic females I know anyway. This is, after all, a very poor place to generalize about gender based tendencies.

2. My kickstand ( :heehee: ) It brings a lot of pleasure with very little effort.

3. Being able to hang with my friends without competing about every aspect of our lives. It seems to me (maybe I know the wrong women?) that most women are unbelievably competitive with each other. They're not competitive about sports and games which, after all, are intended to have winners and losers. They're competitive about whose life is the "best" (read most like something from TV or a magazine.)

4. I never feel like I have to fix my hair or change my clothes before I go to the store otherwise I might be humiliated. I hope I'm right in my observation that this issue seems to be fading somewhat.

5. I have man muscles. Come on. Who wouldn't want to be stronger than 50% of the population?

6. I make more money than women with the same job. This is just plain unfair but I can't say being on the male side of the coin is somehow worse than being on the female. I will happily employ my fabulous girl-powers to help resolve this for anyone with an XX.

7. I'll never have PMS or post-partum depression. We all know that PMS can get ugly and I have observed post-partum depression up close and personal and it scared the *&(^! out of me.

8. I get to find women mysterious and beautiful and fertile. Because they are.

9. Being a father. :happy: :happy: :happy: :happy: :happy:

KrazyKat
01-10-2007, 06:21 PM
Having boobs, makes me feel fat. They take up FAR too much of my body.

Amen to that!! And try to do anything seriously in sports, they are always in your dang way!!

The staring part by people, well, men don't do that anymore, since I've hit the 50 mark, but I use to stare them in the eyes, on first meetings, and dare them to look, because if they did, I'd be sure to make them pay with my "sharp tongue"!!

Hear you, pocoyo, feel you, too!!

Deborah
01-10-2007, 06:26 PM
*Wonders what that's all about!* :straightface:


...because anything else i would have added would be under the "I hate being a male category ;) "

pocoyo
01-10-2007, 06:38 PM
...because anything else i would have added would be under the "I hate being a male category ;) "

AWwww! How lovely of you to not put that :) :)
Well I'm glad you like at least 1 thing about male-ness :heehee:

Bless ya.

pocoyo
01-10-2007, 06:48 PM
Amen to that!! And try to do anything seriously in sports, they are always in your dang way!!

The staring part by people, well, men don't do that anymore, since I've hit the 50 mark, but I use to stare them in the eyes, on first meetings, and dare them to look, because if they did, I'd be sure to make them pay with my "sharp tongue"!!

Hear you, pocoyo, feel you, too!!


Yeah or feel bruised sometimes!

I'm sure they do still stare! :happy:

Awww thanks KK :hugs:

bi_weird
01-10-2007, 07:09 PM
Wow Poc, ten points for that rant! I know what you mean, too. I've been tempted to type that sort of thing, but I'm too much of a pushover. It's like, we love ya girls, but we're not you.
Hey I think this is my 100th post!

jsoto81
01-18-2007, 12:35 AM
Since I haven't transitioned completely, I'm a baby in this so far, my list is going to be short.

1. Being able to have my shirt off (that's something I'm looking forward too).
2. Catching girls looking at me... in a good way.
3. Having the confidence to flirt.
4. Buying the clothes I've always wanted to buy.
5. And smelling like a guy.

ZenFrost
01-26-2007, 11:55 PM
I like the fact that men's clothes allow more freedom of movement then women's clothes. I also like that I can sit with my legs apart and not have to worry about being offensive or showing anything I don't want seen (like if I had been wearing a skirt).

Though, mostly I just like being a guy in general. It isn't one or two nice things, it's everything.