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tall_brianna
10-19-2006, 03:53 PM
Wow, this is all so confusing for me. Let me start by saying I hate labels. I've read enough of the posts here and research to know that most CDers are hetero, and I could say that I was too up until just recently. But was my being straight for 30+ years just a technicality? Even though I never had sex with a man up until 6 months ago, sometimes when I look at porn and at other times, like while having sex with a woman, I would fantasize about being in her position.

I've had a total of two safe homosexual experiences. The first one, I was totally en femme the entire time. I wasn't particularly attracted to him, and it was sort of like the story I've heard more than one GG tell of their first - just to get it over with. I think he was just too effeminate. But recently I met a man who has manly mannerisms and is very dominant and when kissed me and I melted. I wish I could tell the whole story but I'd probably get banned.

So I guess that makes me bi - if I have to have a label. I'm just wondering how many of you guys that consider yourself heterosexual have fantasies about being a girl during sex or fantasize about being with a dominate male?

Snookums
10-19-2006, 03:56 PM
I'm straight,hetro,I have never been interested in men,just GG's.

Karren H
10-19-2006, 04:02 PM
I'm straight,hetro,I have never been interested in men,just GG's.

Same here....and only interested in my wife of 30+ years.....and proud of it too!! :)

Love Karren

Snookums
10-19-2006, 04:05 PM
Same here....and only interested in my wife of 30+ years.....and proud of it too!! :)

Love Karren

why do people start threads like this is beyond me:Angry3:

ColleenCD
10-19-2006, 04:12 PM
Married and straight here. My interest are in the female body and the clothing they wear. No interest in guys.

Colleen

tall_brianna
10-19-2006, 04:14 PM
why do people start threads like this is beyond me:Angry3:

I'm sorry I ruffled those numbered feathers. Like I said, I'm just confused by this whole thing and just trying to understand where I fit in - as was par for the other course, not well. I was awkward as a boy and I guess equally awkward as a girl.

Again, I'm sorry,

-b

Snookums
10-19-2006, 04:20 PM
I'm sorry I ruffled those numbered feathers. Like I said, I'm just confused by this whole thing and just trying to understand where I fit in - as was par for the other course, not well. I was awkward as a boy and I guess equally awkward as a girl.

Again, I'm sorry,

-b

my numbered feathers were not ruffled,it's just there are several threads about this subject.

hotbobbie
10-19-2006, 04:24 PM
Do not be sorry for thread. I am bi but going more for the gay side.

Eugenie
10-19-2006, 04:25 PM
Briana,

My experience is very near yours. I always thought I was purely hetero, but I had a single experience that proved to me that I didn't know myself...

When in DRAB, I have never felt in the least interested by men. Only in my wildest fantazies and very rarely would I imagine the situation of being seduced by a male when I would be fully dressed as a woman.

Then one day that I was dressed and showing my cleavage in a rather risqué top, I came to realize that the person I was with (another CD) was starting to react more like a male than like another gurl... I don't know what made me do it, but I felt "his" seduction approach extremely flattering and that made me feel more feminine. It didn't go "all the way" but I was very troubled by that experience.

I wanted to share with you, as I don't think that we can say for sure that something like this will never happen to us.

:hugs:
Eugenie

tall_brianna
10-19-2006, 04:32 PM
Not interested in knowing if you are straight or gay or bi or whatever else, I'm more curious if anyone is solely attracted to woman, maybe obessed with them, and yet wants to experience sex as a woman.

I think some of you protest a little too strongly to this topic ;)

-brie

suzy
10-19-2006, 04:37 PM
Not me.... I'm not bi....I love my wife and nobody else.

sparks
10-19-2006, 04:41 PM
Hmmm! I will give in to the fact that it's really a confusing area. Maybe too much grey. I'm Wrestling with an account of abuse in my past and that's really messed me up alot about the gay/bi/thing. You will find that we are much like the rest of the human race in the fact we are all different. This is a common thread that pops up frequently as I started one when i was new here.
I will answer the question to the best of my ability. I'm married and that's where my attention lies. She is my focus.

GG Vanya
10-19-2006, 04:50 PM
why do people start threads like this is beyond me:Angry3:

Wow, dontcha know? On a scale of 1-10 threads like this have a titillation factor of TWENTY! :rolleyes:

I swear I'm *only* a lesbian when my husband, who is 47, is wearing his cute little school girl outfit. He looks SOOOOO femme!:rolleyes: He could pass 100% as a 14 year old female in a parochial school! :D

ophillia
10-19-2006, 04:53 PM
Married 38 years and proud of it. My wife has been the only one. Love to look but never touch (girls that is) never even thought of looking at a guy.

sparks
10-19-2006, 04:54 PM
Wow, dontcha know? On a scale of 1-10 threads like this have a titillation factor of TWENTY! :rolleyes:

:D

How many demerits for saying "titillation" :D

Sasha Anne Meadows
10-19-2006, 04:57 PM
There seems to be lots of married guys like me on the forum. I think the most important point is that if you are married you are true to your wife and anything else is academic. I am not a prude or religious. And I don't think there is anything wrong with having this discussion. But I do think it is great that most t girls put their marriage first. Straght, gay, or bi, it makes no difference. Either you are married or you are not.

Hugs, girls. From Sasha Anne

kathy gg
10-19-2006, 05:14 PM
Brianna,

Bear with me before I answer your question.....

I am going to say a couple of things about this thread. First off your question is valid and I really hope the mods in charge delete the posts which are completely off topic in regards to your questions. Yes, this line of thinking may have been covered before, but so has everything else, but that is what a forum is for. This person is not coming off at titilating and had enough sense not to post their encouter story, so some restraint was used if you ask me.

I also wonder why the one's who don't have the same feelings as Brianna feel the need to quickly state how stright and married or only into women they are? I mean obviously if this does not relate to one's station in life and you can't identify {as she clearly asked} , why even bother posting? To make someone with these feelings feel even more isolated? I notice that anytime a straight/bi/gay sexuality thread is started, so many feel compelled to quickly run in and say how straight they are.....I just feel like "um, we get it, you are only into girls."

Okay now back to Brianna's questions:

Brianna this is my thoughts on what you are talking about. First off, maybe you are just a late bloomer or just finally wrapping your head and haert around your sexuality. Some people experiemnt while young at college, others later after time to reflect on who they are.

People who are truly bi-sexual find gender to be sort of unimportant to the attraction process, they are attracted to who the person is first and foremost.

Some on this forum fall into *bi* when dressed catagory. I feel some people must really feel such a strong connection to their femme self that they are able to pretty much open to intimacy with either gender then when dressed, because being dressed does help free up some inhibitions. So many say when not dressed they would not find men attractive. So I think "their" presentation has alot to do with what gender they are receptive to being with.

Anyway, at this point you already said you dont' like labels. I would think of someone like youself sexaully flexible.

I mean in the end being gay or being bi-sexual is not a BAD thing to be. Being straight is okay too:p , but seriously, unless you belong to some really uptight religion or have a wife and kids at home, I say explore your sexuality safely and just enjoy who you are.

kayla_cd_va
10-19-2006, 05:16 PM
It's funny to me how some crossdressers want to get so sexually pure when other crossdressers talk about sex. For me crossdressing is sexual. My first enounter with a man wasn't until I was 38. I had the desire since childhood as well as the desire to dress as a woman. There is nothing wrong with crossdressers discussing sex with other crossdressers. We can learn from each other.

melissainks
10-19-2006, 05:42 PM
As I have begun this process of coming out as a crossdresser I wondered about the whole Straight/Bi/Gay thing myself.What really struck me was people in ads elsewhere describing them selves as T-Lesbians.

Personally I am only interested in Girls, I would hold out the possibly of a relationship with another crossdresser, and if I'm all made up and not drab, then yes I think I'd consider myself a x-dressed Lesbian because of a lack of interest in men and the thought process that I am Melissa looking for a Girl or Gurl as the case may be.Neither myself in drab nor Melissa has any interest sexually in men, so I wouldn't consider myself gay in terms of sex with men.

Cami_wi
10-19-2006, 05:52 PM
Thanks for the post :-) I think it is Personal for Each and Every person to answer. Get rid of all the Labels ( Made by MEN ). you are just YOU , or in my Case I am Just ME , A Girl Named Cami Dawn :-)

Kimberly
10-19-2006, 05:55 PM
Yeah, you're bi, luv.

Not a problem. :)

shannonsilk
10-19-2006, 06:12 PM
for the last couple of months i keeep fantasizing about getting together with another cd and ..... i only think about doing it with GGs about half the time now. did the feeling come on suddenly or was i just out of touch with my feelings.

Agles
10-19-2006, 06:16 PM
i my whole life have been all about women. i could never see myself with a man. (and even now most discust me). but after alot of deep though it's not the femme look that im want. but instead i feel it is the femme mind. even when dressed i want a women by my side. and i leave this open as i said it the mind, the emotions, the feelings that i well have feelings for. what does this mean? that would i like to be with another TG person.... yes i could. does that mean if we ever got to the point that we would get that close. i feel that i would be willing to do that for the one i love.

i still feel set in thise but that could change. there was only one man who has ever made my hart melt. it was someone who i seen a pic of on myspace. i cant say what it was about him that really blow me away. he was in ever aspect a man. except when i went to read his profile i found that in fact this person was a trassexual man. yes a F2M. as i when back and looked at this pics again and really looked deaply into them. i seen it, something about the eyes they didnt look like a mans yes. still this person wowed me. later i went back to find him on there again, but have never been able to. oh were did my man go...:sad:



hope this helps.

='.'=
Jamie

kerrianna
10-19-2006, 06:32 PM
While I am so much in love with women I want to be one (and then lesbian I guess :heehee: ), I have had a few fantasies about being with a guy, BUT ONLY in the context of that making me feel more like a girl. Otherwise I'm not interested in guys. I did try once with my pal (we were both drunk :D ) - dressed up for him - it didn't really work, so it was just awkward between us for a long time. We're still friends, but don't talk about THAT. :naughty

my :2c: = I think a lot of free-spirited people are open to trying things out, so it's not unnatural to feel urges, esp in context with exploring your other-gender self.

zoe jordon
10-19-2006, 06:41 PM
Hi im Zoe heres a little story for you!!!!!!


im 32 years old and a virgin my feelings are so mixed up about sex with a male or female that it scares the hell out of me!!!! so l just dont wont to have any sexual contact with anyone!!!! Ive been a crossdresser since 7 or 8 and when l was little l was very Open and sometimes out spoken!!!! which off course didnt go unoticed by teachers and stuff!!!! Anyway as for gay or straight!!!! Who cares as long as your happy!!!! l like being an asexual it meens i get to enjoy my crossdressing alot more theres nothing to hide!!!



Make sure you have fun!!
Love Zoe xxxxxxxxx

LaFem
10-19-2006, 06:42 PM
Labels and more labels. The ultimate expression of femininity, when it gets right down to it, is having sex with a man and satisfying him as a woman would, and in turn being satisfied as a woman. I want to be the woman in the silky gown, in his arms, and in his heart. Wish, wish wish... Do it while you are young...The earlier the better.

Sara Kat
10-19-2006, 06:43 PM
Don't be sorry for posting this. It's their fault if they can't handle it. With that being said, I myself am bisexual. I enjoy sex with men, women and TGs!

Melora
10-19-2006, 07:00 PM
Yeah..
This might be a OVERLY written subject, but only because IT MAY BE important..
I am an X-Dresser...
& I have felt attracted to both GGs as well as TGs = So I guess that makes me bi or partly gay I think.. :) Also I am married
It doesent make me LESS Human or ashamed, Maybe just kinda private, AND for the better...I think.

Sally24
10-19-2006, 07:46 PM
I personally think it's a thoughtful question. I am "straight", as much as that can apply to someone who tries to fully pass when out in public. That being said, my fantasies run the whole gamut. That's why they're fantasies. Most of them I would not want to reenact in reality but I enjoy exploring the sexual and sensual nature of my mind's imagination.

I have always fantasised about being a female, even before any sexual thoughts were in my mind. Now I add that aspect to my dreams as well.

I don't normally use fantasies during sex. That's just never appealed to me. I do however use fantasy when by myself. Sometimes I am me and crossdressed, sometimes I am a "real" female.

In reality, the most I have ever done is dance with a man. I like attention, but I don't think I want more than talking or flirting. And I agree with most of the other gurls, we married ones have a responsibility to our spouces. She knows when I go out and I tell her everything that happens (and show her the pictures!).

Feel free to post anything that falls within the forum guidelines. If nobody responds, then yeah, maybe it's been done before and again...and again...and again.... But there seems to be plenty of people that are willing to talk to this one. Everyone else need not bother to read it, or post to it.

Sally

joanlynn28
10-19-2006, 08:25 PM
Brianna don't worry about the negative comments this post has gotten from some. Apparently they have their own issues or denial about their sexual identity or are afraid to admit who they really are. I always thought of myself as heterosexual, at least when I was a male. But as my female self I find myself attracted to men, the manly ones not guy effeminate men. But as a girl I have slept with both men and women, and other t-girls. I when I have had sex I too imagine that I am in the female role being penetrated by my lovers penis whither I am having sex as male or female. So you are not alone with these kind of thoughts. Yes I am bisexual and am not afraid to admit it, which is more than could be said about the ones objecting to your post.:hugs: :hugs: :hugs:

dontay155
10-19-2006, 08:26 PM
Like so many, I was totally straight till I got into panties and a bra and a slip and a short very cute dress. Then I started to have fantasies during sex about being with another guy (ewww gross) or another hot CD (well, that is fine).

So let us see...normally straight put me in a dress and I'm gay but only for other guys dressed as women. And I'm married and my wife is grand, but she doesn't really get the CD thing. So it is a complex situation. But you try to be a good honest person, take care of the folks who depend upon you, and get that dress on every (safe) chance you get.

Live gurls. Life is short (like a cute skirt).

CaptLex
10-19-2006, 09:09 PM
why do people start threads like this is beyond me:Angry3:
:OT: Do you mean, as opposed to more panty threads? Seriously, if the thread offends, annoys or bores you, just move on to another one. As I'm sure you know, many threads are repeated here due to the continuous high volume of new members. Even if the question has been asked before, there are plenty of new people here who have never had the opportunity to discuss the subject. You're right, Kathy, this is off-topic, but I think it requires a response.

Sorry for the interruption . . . carry on, folks.

LaurenS.
10-19-2006, 09:25 PM
For the longest time the thought of being with a man repulsed me but......years later...I have to admit that I've fantisized about it while dressed. I am surprised that these feelings have developed. I never dreamed that such thoughts would enter my mind but they have. I think I would enjoy having a man make love to me while dressed. I don't think it will ever happen and nothing I will ever persue but it is something that I do think about on occasion.

Lauren

Khriss
10-19-2006, 09:26 PM
...mearly posting here ..might put Anyone "beyond the Pale" of acceptance.. in "General Society" eh??
soo quibling over "degrees" or what folks (members?) personaly find acceptable ..
seems pretty judgmental at the very least !?
SouthPole PeoplefiguretheWHOLEWORLDrevolvesaroundtheirAss??
just a thought... but NEVER pretend that you speak for everyone HERE !?
.... a sister ...and "hetero" (I-guess) .."K"

..like a rainbow...??

Katelyn
10-19-2006, 09:42 PM
First off, I agree with Brianna. Secondly, I am too heterosexual and have a girlfriend. However, I have found myself when dressed as a girl wanting to know what it would be like to be with a man and be treated like a girl. I have to be fully dressed though and imagine being a girl. Even though your emotions are unique and confusing right now, rest assured that you are not alone. :hugs: Also Khriss is right. Who are we to judge when we as a general group here don't like being juged also?

Deborah
10-19-2006, 09:53 PM
I haven't had a relationship or sex with a man yet, but that doesn't mean i don't want to. I'm a female in my mind so when i do it is hetero :D

Debb
10-19-2006, 09:54 PM
First let me say that labels aren't all that important to me.

Yeah I've fantasized about other men.

... and I've fantasized about other women (besides my wife). I am a male, and my eye is drawn to women.

Personally, I've begun paying more attention to myself in the past few years, and I've noticed that my eyes is drawn specifically to women. Never to men (not denying anything here, don't get me wrong, nothing wrong with that as the saying goes). Does that necessarily make me straight? I don't think so.

My personal definition of "gay" would be: if I am attracted naturally to find men attractive, AND if I am also emotionally attracted to a man in a sexual manner, then perhaps I am gay.

I usually simplify it to this: I have never looked at a man's face and thought to myself, "handsome". The reverse is also true: when I look at a woman, the first thing I see is her face, and odds are pretty good that I will find her attractive.

The difference between fantasy and reality, for me, is that when I fantasize, I don't see faces in my mind's eye. Reality is that a face is always the most important physical attribute.

I really loved the definition that kathy gg used: "People who are truly bi-sexual find gender to be sort of unimportant to the attraction process, they are attracted to who the person is first and foremost." I totally agree with this working definition.

I myself am a person of "straight" tendencies, at least biologically. I cannot deny, though, that I exist along a sexual spectrum, and that I fall somewhere to the right of "straight" because I have in the past fantasized about what it would be like.

JennaKnots
10-19-2006, 09:59 PM
Not interested in knowing if you are straight or gay or bi or whatever else, I'm more curious if anyone is solely attracted to woman, maybe obessed with them, and yet wants to experience sex as a woman.

I think some of you protest a little too strongly to this topic ;)

-brie

These is some defensiveness going on here. ;)

I'm straight and married and I've never been attracted to other men - but having said that, I've been attracted to some of the "women" on this site. There obviously is something really nice about feeling special and adored, amd I think that sometimes, since there is often a sexual thrill involved with dressing (at least for a lot of folks), it can get confusing.

Carla2003
10-19-2006, 10:02 PM
In 'drab,' I'm as straight as they come. Even while dressed, I used to be totally straight. After several outings, however, my attitudes have started to change while dressed. Guys aren't that exciting to me, but other CD'ers are looking better every day...

Teresa Amina
10-19-2006, 11:10 PM
I've had a total of two safe homosexual experiences.

Safe? Lots of folks out there thought they were safe and are now in the fight of their lives to stay alive. I'm sure your lover was a wonderful guy but what about whoever he was with before you? This world is a crazy, dangerous place. Be who you are, but don't be naive.

tall_brianna
10-19-2006, 11:21 PM
Safe? Lots of folks out there thought they were safe and are now in the fight of their lives to stay alive. I'm sure your lover was a wonderful guy but what about whoever he was with before you? This world is a crazy, dangerous place. Be who you are, but don't be naive.

Truth is that I can't hide away and live in fear anymore. I have never let fear of flying or terrorists stop me from getting on a plane. I know the risks and the mitigating factors and I do the best I can. If I die tomorrow I will die a happy girl because in the end... everyone would know; I wouldn't have to be the one to tell them or attempt to explain after someone else did; they wouldn't need to feel awkward around me and... their only memories of me would remain intact. :( col

Amanda420
10-20-2006, 01:11 AM
I met with someone once, close to my age, I was fully dressed and shaved and tweezed and all. It was kinda wierd because before the visit, I had alot of mixed feelings, like how should I react to advances from a guy, something ive nver experienced. Well I was VERY nervous, of course, as was he. He came in guy mode, but put on a couple things he brought. Well he admitted to being very attracted to me, but I just could not bring myself to even ACT fem, despite how I looked (I did look the BEST I had ever looked...sexy!). I did feel , for the first time in my life, like a real girl. Thats what I thought I wanted, up to that point. I just was not attracted to him at all, in drab or dressed. I admit that I only find a few other CDers attractive or passable, and he was IMO not attractive. For me, ive always went out dressed, ever since my teens(im 27 now). And always wanted a CDer to go out with. Im not bragging, but I do pass very well, im very observent of how women are dressing and putting on makeup. Anyway, I will stick to going out alone, or with a GG, as standing next to another CDer will most likely get me read.My major thrill has always been being seen, and passing. Since the first time I passed as a gg ive been hooked on that feeling, and its driven me to perfect my look. Sorry for rambling, but thanks for reading!

ReginaK
10-20-2006, 01:25 AM
Never cared to be the girl on either side of a relationship.

varinia
10-20-2006, 02:09 AM
Kathy, I really want to say I think you stated it so well. And fully agree with it 100% percent. Thats why we are all here, to explore and discover who we really are. Just because someone makes a post like this doesn't mean they are bad, It just means they are looking for mental and emotional clairity. So as long as they are not hurting anyone more power to them. Thats my :2c:

janedoe311
10-20-2006, 05:53 PM
There is an inborn tendency for us to want to be “normal”.
As a man do you find men and male bodes attractive? Probably not
When you fantasize as a woman it curiosity or just plain horney?

Many transsexuals have said that after SRS they kind of over did the sex, until the novelty wore out. It is to be expected.

Many post op “as male heterosexual” TS find themselves going with men. So what happens? I feel we all have a tendency to like people and want to be normal.
If I turned into a woman over night I would find it just as a turn off to be a lesbian than to force myself to get “used to” men. I find men and male body’s repulsive. No attraction in the least. I could never feel the same about a man as a woman but I could probably get along, “least of two evils”, but I am not a homosexual.

Part of the female experience is having a man make love to you and your fantasies are fantasies. Do not make much of it.

One point:

If one did change into a woman and found one self with man you would still be a heterosexual!

MJ
10-20-2006, 06:00 PM
hi brianna

i too am still working on that i was married 20 years till i came out but now i just not sure i think bi but never done anything about it. only one way to find out...

hugs Marissa

ps i am changeing in to a woman so i self identfy as a woman and if i like men then it 's hetro

Sky
10-20-2006, 07:02 PM
Some on this forum fall into *bi* when dressed catagory....So many say when not dressed they would not find men attractive. So I think "their" presentation has alot to do with what gender they are receptive to being with.

Right on the money! :love:

Plus there's an extra factor you (being a gg) probably haven't noticed: guys looking for cds / tvs are a different kind than guys looking for non-dressed guys (although both are technically bi or gay). So the guys I meet when in drag are not who I would meet (hypothetically) if I were in drab.

Melora
10-20-2006, 07:36 PM
2nd post..
As I said, I may be Bi.. Idunno, BUT I am attracted to both GGs & TGs of all sorts, But NOT MALES AT ALL. Soo, I am atracted to the Female form & Face/Tastes, But I fantasize about having an experience with a girl "with that extra somthing down there", Kinda exciting & Sensualll! So what does that make me? A TG as well as an Admirer! I guess.. = ?

Andrea Nicole
10-20-2006, 08:02 PM
Hi,
I had a very late "start" into dressing .. late 30's by my wife who passed away of cancer. We were married for 22 years, and have great kids. I never thought about remarrying, no-one could take her place. The thought of being with a man never even crossed my mind.

Well, years later, it turned out to be my life long best friend from college, Nam, & so on. His first wife was an alcoholic, developed severe liver problems, and passed away. His second wife was a druggie, and he divorced her. Needless to say he was down on women. I just had to tell him about my dressing. He didn't even blink. A few get-togethers with my "group", and one New Years Eve formal dinner dance and it sorta happened. We are a couple ONLY when I am in Andrea mode, otherwise we are our former solid best friends. It's tough, but it's been working for over 4 years.

His daughter and her husband know. My sister knows, but my children do not.
I do not consider myself or him gay. Call it what you may, it is our lives, and we are happy.
Sorry for the long boring post.
Take Care,
Andrea..
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/AndiNic/a040.jpg

Brianne_bc
10-20-2006, 09:28 PM
hhmmm me well to be with a man. nope... to be with a woman oh yes. to be with a pretty tgirl oh yes its something ide dearly love to try... Now as one person put it to me.. I am attracted to female presentation. regardless of what treats are hidden beneath those satin panties... so for me well if you aint in heels and lingerie im not interested...

MsJanessa
10-21-2006, 09:11 AM
Wow, this is all so confusing for me. Let me start by saying I hate labels. I've read enough of the posts here and research to know that most CDers are hetero, and I could say that I was too up until just recently. But was my being straight for 30+ years just a technicality? Even though I never had sex with a man up until 6 months ago, sometimes when I look at porn and at other times, like while having sex with a woman, I would fantasize about being in her position.

I've had a total of two safe homosexual experiences. The first one, I was totally en femme the entire time. I wasn't particularly attracted to him, and it was sort of like the story I've heard more than one GG tell of their first - just to get it over with. I think he was just too effeminate. But recently I met a man who has manly mannerisms and is very dominant and when kissed me and I melted. I wish I could tell the whole story but I'd probably get banned.

So I guess that makes me bi - if I have to have a label. I'm just wondering how many of you guys that consider yourself heterosexual have fantasies about being a girl during sex or fantasize about being with a dominate male?

I'm bi and proud of it----as for the femme guy that you didn't like please send Me his name and phone number---don't like dom masculine guys but do like the femme submissive types

JennaisahottieNC
10-21-2006, 09:22 AM
do i ever know about that. i only like men when i am dressed en femme as Jenna. its normal babydoll

Jenna

REBECCA62
10-21-2006, 10:03 AM
Wow, this is all so confusing for me. Let me start by saying I hate labels. I've read enough of the posts here and research to know that most CDers are hetero, and I could say that I was too up until just recently. But was my being straight for 30+ years just a technicality? Even though I never had sex with a man up until 6 months ago, sometimes when I look at porn and at other times, like while having sex with a woman, I would fantasize about being in her position.

I've had a total of two safe homosexual experiences. The first one, I was totally en femme the entire time. I wasn't particularly attracted to him, and it was sort of like the story I've heard more than one GG tell of their first - just to get it over with. I think he was just too effeminate. But recently I met a man who has manly mannerisms and is very dominant and when kissed me and I melted. I wish I could tell the whole story but I'd probably get banned.

So I guess that makes me bi - if I have to have a label. I'm just wondering how many of you guys that consider yourself heterosexual have fantasies about being a girl during sex or fantasize about being with a dominate male?

Hi bri, first off i'd just like to agree with with kathy gg- you asked a valid question probably not best responded to by all the married hetero's. From my own perspective its a question i have been asking myself a lot of late.
I have always thought of myself as straight, however, i have arrived at a point over the last year or two like yourself. I have always crossdressed and always aimed my sexual attentions at females. I started cd'ing for my own satisfaction and sexual gratification, but my male half always felt guilt ridden. But as i got older i came to accept my femme side.at first i just wore female lingerie + clothing but after learning to accept myself for who i am -totally- both halves i went the whole hog: wigs shoes,make-up etc. (and i love every minute of it) http://www.crossdressers.com/forums/images/icons/icon7.gif
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As i got more into my femm side i have also found myself wondering the same as you. Whilst having sex or watching porn, i too wondered what it must be like to be on the receiving end,so to speak. I mean if you are going to the effort of trying to be as female as possible why stop at the sex. Besides the 'gg's always seem to enjoy it so much dont they. :-)
However i have always been pretty choosy when picking women (sometimes methinks too bloody choosy- but thats a different thread) and i think as my femme side -and knowing what men in general are like :-) -i would be even choosier.i have never been turned on by men when in drab- loutish,unkempt, and hairy- as most of them revel in being. Which i suppose is the main reason i have never turned bi etc. However as i said when femmed up i do fantasise about being a sexual women. Although i'm not into hairy bodies at all (see what i mean about being choosy). So i'm left in the position of wanting to try it out with a non-hairy male, a younger male who hasn't yet grown much body hair or a cd'er or pre-op ts. Life's never easy is it? If i could find a lovely female who had both sets of genitalia i would be laughing all the way to the bedroomhttp://www.crossdressers.com/forums/images/icons/icon7.gif
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So there you have it, my little ramble is over, i guess i must be bi too if we have to be labelled. But you are not alone feeling the way you do girl, just wished i'd decided this when i was younger so i could have enjoyed myself a wee bit more, although i'm still looking forward to the rest of my femme life from now on. With a vengeance now that i've found this site i must say. Just hope i find the right man- but then thats what all the girls say :-)
Hope this as helped you as much as knowing there is someone else
That feels like i do has helped me. Lots of love and kisses and a real big hug. Rebecca62. Bi bi http://www.crossdressers.com/forums/images/icons/icon7.gif
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crossing-the-rain
10-21-2006, 10:09 AM
What I want to say is,I don't see any problem to discuss this topic here, I thought that every one here are open minded,we have the freedom to speak out our feeling and we should care and support who ever straight/bi/gay.I'm straight too even people think that I'm a gay in the whole world,I told six of our friends my CD only a habit,you know what Only one of them believe me,so for those outsider they won't understand us and look at us without any difference,what I mean is we should support and help each other .Anyway,Loyalty alway in my mind but who knows one day I might change to another person, I have lots of example,experience,you never know !
Rain.

Kitty Sue
10-21-2006, 11:30 AM
Hi and thanks for the post.I too am bi. I have many friends who are lesbian or homosexual. I try hard not to put myself in a box. I know I like sex as long as it is good. I do not mind if that is with a man or a woman. Screw labels. I am only now finding out who I am. I often wonder if I am gay and then I will see a totally hot girl and think no I am niether totally one way or the other.

Lynn
10-21-2006, 02:41 PM
Very simply stated, when dressed I like to be a woman and sought after by a man.

MJ
10-21-2006, 03:19 PM
hi again as i am new here. i find this topic of great interest. now that i am exploring my new gender role i find myself asking the same questions as Brianna. and like i said i am not 100% sure would i go with a man. cd, or ts. well i think i would. if only for the experience but again i am not looking. if something happens then so be it. but my feeling for men are growing stronger by the day i guess hrt does that to you. how i feel now and then 3 months from now will be different again. and if i may say here if i find a guy then how will i react and what do I do ?. that might sound dumb but i just don't know..

LaFem
10-21-2006, 04:04 PM
I have already posted to this thread, but I have a little more to say.

Dear Tall Brianna,

If you find out you are gay or bi, then accept it and enjoy it. If you think for sure you are TS, please go to a specialist doctor who is experienced, compassionate, and recommended by other MTFs. This is not something to approach without professional consultation. If you find out you really, seriously, absolutely want to be a woman, then start the process immediately! The younger you are the better you will feminize, and the longer time you will have to learn and grow into your true self, a woman.

I come from a time when there was no support at all for being TS, or even being a CD (or TV). We were just considered "queers". I kept all this inside and lived quite uncomfortably as an "over-compensated macho man". Gender reassignment counseling and surgery was primitive and rare.

Things are really good for the MTF now; hormone therapy is quite advanced, and the surgery yields excellent results, (even female orgasms!).

Had I been born 30 years later, I would be a woman now.

When you are sure who you are, make those changes!

LaurenMar
10-21-2006, 05:32 PM
I am a heterosexual woman who has experimented sleeping with women. In my early teens I used to daydream about getting married and even becoming a mother. In my dreams my husband would hug me and give me a loving kiss before leaving for work. My dreams of being attracted to men were more romantic than erotic but I have always been attracted to men.

Unfortunately when I was in my late teens I decided that I had no choice but to conform and be a man. My reasoning was that I didn’t want to look like a man in drag I wanted to be a woman. If I couldn’t be a girl then I’d just have to make the best of a bad situation.

This was a mistake as I am even worse at being a man. The woman I married when she first met me thought I was gay.

It wasn’t until 3 years ago that I finally got the courage up to sleep with a man. Since then I have only slept with men and can’t see myself making love to a woman ever again.

My one regret is that I didn’t just try and be myself right from the start. Having a relationship with a man who loves me as Lauren isn’t a compromise but something beautiful, as I am being true to myself.

Love


Lauren

xxxxxx

stacie
10-23-2006, 08:37 AM
I do dream about what it would be like if I could trade bodies with my wife during sex.

joanne_mi
10-23-2006, 01:14 PM
I'm definately not attracted to men when I'm in guy mode, but I've thought about being a woman with a guy, that's strictly fantasy though. I'm not sure I could be with a guy while dressed either, the parts just don't mesh for me...

I'm not sure where I'm at on the sexual preference scale these days, I'm a lifelong hetero, but I haven't been attracted to a woman in a couple of years. In my defense on that, I'm still hung up on my ex-wife.

So, I'm not attracted to men, not attracted to women (although I envy many of them) so I'd guess I'm either asexual, or non-sexual (or, just plain nuts).

Maybe someday a girl will come along and change all that, but I'm not holding my breath.

Shannon CD
10-23-2006, 01:31 PM
I am, quite frankly, straight. When I am dressed I am a straight man impersonating a woman who likes women. I have always said that I know that if I were born female I would most definitely be lesbian. So Maybe that is truly what I am inside and when I am dressed I am presenting that part of my personality.

So, in conclusion, I am a lesbian.:confused:

Georgie Girl
10-23-2006, 04:14 PM
I am new to this forum, but not new to dressing. (off and on for several years, mostly on now, as I live alone)

I have been alone with this all the time. I have learned CD'ers are as different as any other person. (from reading)

I feel I have evolved differently than others, but the same as you.
I first dressed because it just plain sexually excited me. ( I guess it still does)
What also happened is, when dressed I began to think of being with a man more and more.
I don't understand how you can get all dressed up to look like a woman and feel like a woman, and then not want to..........well, you know.

By things I have read, it seems some CD'ers turn there nose up to any of us when sex is envolved with our attire.

nikki smith
10-23-2006, 04:35 PM
when i'm in drab i'm 100% hetro but when dressed and glamed up i do quite like the idea of being swept off my feet by a handsome man and being treated like a woman should be so i could have bi tendences :love:

Jestina
10-23-2006, 04:39 PM
I have read all of these posts with great interest.
I am left trying to decide wether or not I should simply "voice" my own opinion/experience or just say "well said girls".

I have been so obsessed with women for most of my life that it has inhibited any serious consideration of the male to male dynamic.
Whenever I have been dressed with my gf I have felt enormously attracted to her but always the "weaker vessel", when in guy mode I am usually able to be the "stronger one or go with the flow.
However when my gf and I go to hotels and dress each other up...
(60 seconds for her 60 minutes for me)
I must say that when she grabs me and lays on the lines in her character as a male, and I am fully into my "character' as Jestina, I melt and become every bit the classic woman at the mercy of a man.
(she is a professional actor and very good) Has dozens of commercials and several hundred film and television roles to her credit playing very diverse characters. So she studied this part as if it was work and nailed it bang on.
It was amazing watching her move and speak.
Even with a woman's voice I was mesperized at the conviction with which she played the part.

Now this I have to say is a very unusual woman and very unusual situaiton. However I melted into her seduction, every time she played the part with me, which was very masculine in its presentation.
I heard every line and that smirk that a horny guy has when trying to
"get a leg over" in a club. I reluctantly fall for it. (of course the script says I have too, HEHEHE)

So then what does that mean to me?
What am I then.
If a really pretty man aggressively tried to seduce me in en femme or not would I go for it?

Deep thought here BTW, soul searching self examination now, ready for it?
Probably not , although my gf really helps me with the fantasy of being a woman and lets me (helps actually) go to the depths of it for a long time, deep down I know it is her.
The trust is deep, very deep.
Sex to me is almost a spiritual thing and I am a romantic at heart and maybe that affects me.

Faithfulness as some of you have shared is the most important thing.
So with that I will hang this one on the wall and see what comes of it.

Wow, another looooong one eh?

By the way..."well said girls".

Jestina.