Cisgendered mens' attitude towards their penises [Archive] - Crossdressers.com - #1 Community & Forum for Crossdressers, Family and Friends

JenniferMint

10-21-2006, 12:19 PM

Someone remarked in an unrelated topic:

As for breasts, some women love them, some women hate them, some are indifferent.

suggesting there may be a significant percentage of GGs who don't like having breasts.

I wonder how it is for GMs and having penises? Usually, I hear from cisgendered men saying that their penis is very important to them, and that they would rather die than lose it. I never quite understood that viewpoint.

I saw an insurance chart once, listing how much the insurance company would pay if you lost <insert body part here>. The penis was worth more than hearing in both ears! But I think being deaf would dramatically change a man's life for the worst, more than not having a penis would.

Agles

10-21-2006, 03:57 PM

me loss of my penis would not do much to me. well ya hurt having it done. but after that i would not care that much. just half to get used to whatever is down there now. but i can live with it. and sometime though rarely it makes me happy.

='.'=
Jamie

CaptLex

10-21-2006, 04:16 PM

suggesting there may be a significant percentage of GGs who don't like having breasts.
I think what GGs dislike is having no choice but to wear bras everyday. It would be nice to be able to forego the bra once in a while, but most women don't have that option. At the end of a long day, they've dug into your ribs and on a hot day a lot of sweat accumulates in there (causing rashes, etc.). This is especially true for women who are well-endowed. Also, big breasts can cause backaches, shoulder pain, etc. I think it must be great to be able to take the breast forms off and run around bare-chested if you so desire.

I wonder how it is for GMs and having penises? Usually, I hear from cisgendered men saying that their penis is very important to them, and that they would rather die than lose it. I never quite understood that viewpoint. . . . I think being deaf would dramatically change a man's life for the worst, more than not having a penis would.
Of course, I wasn't born with a penis, so I can't speak for those who were (so I hope a guy with the right equipment - and who is happy with it - may have a better answer), but I think I'm able to relate a bit more with the GM mentality since I started taking T (and because I've talked to cisgendered guys about sex and penises since I can remember). But feel free to correct me if I'm wrong (anyone).

Hearing and sight are very important, and I doubt anyone would be okay not having these senses anymore, but a penis is what makes a guy feel like a guy. You can lose vision, hearing or a limb without feeling like you've lost part of your identity, but the same wouldn't be true if you lost your penis. That is, of course, unless you're trans and never wanted one to begin with.

I think it's the same as how some women have mastectomies due to cancer (as opposed to FtM top surgery) and have said they no longer feel like a woman, or that a man would want them anymore since they're not full women. I think that's nonsense and the breasts don't make them women, but that's how some feel.

I hope some of that made sense, Jennifer. :happy:

Agles

10-21-2006, 05:02 PM

Cap
that made alot of sense and infact i think you really hit the nail on the head.
i could care less about being a man, so there for i dont care much about my member.
oh and nothing worce then a hot day with your ____ sticking to your leg, i so hate that.

='.'=
Jamie

Melanie85

10-21-2006, 06:03 PM

Well, could it be that loss of a penis is equated with loss of the ability to orgasm?
I sure as hell wouldn't want to lose my ability to orgasm.
Besides, wouldn't anyone feel an intense attachement to something that gives them so much sexual pleasure?
After all, I've come to associate my penis with pleasure.
I sometimes even have conversations with my penis. Last time I did, I told it I wasn't mad at it and I still loved it despite my gender confusion.

(I'd rather have a fully functional, 100% perfect vulva with clitoris and G-spot but I know that's impossible so I'd rather keep my penis as is and enjoy it)

EDIT: The Capt'n also has a point. While I don't believe that, I'm sure many other men would equate loss of penis (or even testicle) with loss of manhood.

Lisa Maren

10-22-2006, 02:23 AM

Hi there

The only reasons I care at all about losing my penis is that it would mean losing child-- well, not childbearing ability. :haha: I mean the ability to have children of my own. I am attracted to GGs, so, it would mean losing the physical ability to make love to a woman. As far as everyday life goes, though, I couldn't care less if I lost my penis. Other than the above two considerations, I wouldn't mind at all. Heck, my pantyhose would sure feel a lot nicer!

Hugs,
Lisa

Joy Carter

10-22-2006, 04:33 AM

It's only a convenience to me now but the fact I was able to father two great kids it was important to me then. So no I'd not miss it. Kinda think of losing it as streamlining.:heehee:

Teresa Amina

10-22-2006, 06:48 AM

It probably depends on how sexually active you are. Those who "do it" a lot would certainly have a harder (:D ) time dealing with the loss of their Member. As for me, I really love it when I tuck the lads away and ignore Willy. As far as my consciousness goes they're gone.

Denise01

10-23-2006, 01:36 PM

To me having a penis, is just something I was born with, and used only for one purpose.
I have never been sexually active, so that is not a concern for me.

Often i have thought i was born in the wrong gender, so if it were to loose it, I feel it would only be more comfortable. not having the additional appendage I would feel more like the gender i feel i should have been born in..

I sit when i need to all the time so the loss of that particular part, would not be any great concern.

Denise

cutechloe

10-23-2006, 11:52 PM

I have to say that ever since I was young I have wished not to have a penis. i hate it just hanging there, and although orgasms are fun I really think I could get used to a clitoris instead if I had the chance. I'm a biologist and in my opinion testicles and one of the worst ideas ever cooked-up by nature. The funny thing is that I'm engaged (and much in love) and face the reality that one day I would like to start a family and that's the only thing stopping me from just disposing of that particular useless lump of flesh between my legs. Well that and the thought of excessive blood loss, and that my fiancee would probably leave me pretty sharply after that. It might also sound strange to some (particularly the "real men" out there) but I have not had sex in over two years. One day we just stopped, and I have no desire to start again, unless we decide to go for a child.

I might sound fairly screwed-up but really I'd prefer to live as a guy that wishes he were a woman all my life (always fantasizing about what might be!!!), that to transition and find that I'm alone for ever more (although female). After all I value companionship more than anything. I really hate having to hide all these emotions all the time but that's the way it is.

Chloe. (at least anonymously!!!)

Maggie Kay

10-24-2006, 04:01 PM

My child bearing years are over and it once had a reasonable sex life with the wife. However, I have always have been ashamed of it and try not to look at it.

Helen MC

10-24-2006, 05:31 PM

As I said on the other Thread about "Penis Envy" I can appreciate that it gives me sexual pleasure and that on the thankfully rare occasion that I cannot use a toilet cubicle (stall) bolt the door and sit to pee like a woman as I have done since age 12, my penis is a useful conduit for urination. The acid test is this, whilst I do not seek to have it removed, where it to be lost owing to some accident or had to be amputated I would NOT want a prosthetic nor restorative surgery but instead would want any vestage of it and my testicles removed and assuming I was not incontinent of urine as a result of the injury or illness to have a realistic vulva created in its place at least the labia if not the vaginal barrel itself. I am not homosexual and would not wish to have intercourse with a man either anal or via a created vagina so there would be no need indulge in such involved GRS. In the past I have used it for penetrational sex with girlfriends and my ex-wife but it has never been used to father children and never will as cannot stand kids and have never wanted to beget any.

So I suppose you could say that I have an ambivalent attitude, as long as I have the thing I do not particulary wish to lose it but if fate decreed that I did lose it I would not want an artificial replacement. Certainly, if it was choice of losing an eye, or my hearing, or a limb , or facial deformity, or serious abdominal or thoracic trauma, or some form of brain damage, or being intact in all these but my losing my penis, it would be "Goodbye John Thomas!"

AmberTG

10-24-2006, 11:56 PM

Siobhan Marie

10-25-2006, 10:39 AM

If I had to lose a body part, I would lose my appendage without a seconds thought. I would also have those horrid things that hang underneath it removed as well. I am not sexuallty active and never have been. I play with it because its there but I could get used to a clitoris. I'm a lesbian in a male body.

:hugs: Anna Marie x

fiona_libby

10-26-2006, 01:56 AM

At this point in my life I think I could cope with not having a penis, it could be a different matter when actually confronted with a situation, you just do not know how you will react until you actually go through a particular situation. The only thing is I would hope to have a say in the end result of the experience and I would be trying to have vagina rather than a penis.

lots of hugs :hugs:

Fiona

marie rose

10-27-2006, 09:56 AM

I think I've always had pretty negative feeling towards wee willie but it's only in the past few years that I really want it gone without question. Sometimes I feel as if I truly hate the thing, although it did give my wife and I three wonderful children now grown. For that I'm grateful.

Calliope

10-28-2006, 01:34 AM

I would simply perish without my ability to hear! Music has always been extremely vital to me. If I had to forgo my iPod - loaded up with stuff like Annie Lennox and (seriously) Britney Spears - or my makeup, I'd probably take the risk of facing the world with a (really) ugly face. That said, I've got my kids and my marriage has been sexless for years, plus I've felt relieved that the further fem I go the less I even want to think abut sex (not that i've ever had a penis in any fantasies since i was a teeniebopper) ... so ... no issue there.

Erica4U

10-29-2006, 06:32 PM

As much as I crave breasts and having that fantastic feminine figure. The breasts would have to be real! With that means no surgery or knife! The penis stays!

Charleen

10-31-2006, 03:36 PM

Would lose it in a heart beat. The only thing good about it for me is the ability to stand and pee when neccesary, like in disgusting restrooms where you couldn't pay me to sit, which I prefer to do. Haven't had sex in over 2 years as first the wife got sick, then succumbed to cancer last year. I have no urges now, so the thing is in the way. I've always felt I shoulda been a female anyway. Love and xxxx, Lily

CaptLex

10-31-2006, 04:11 PM

I have no urges now, so the thing is in the way.
I guess that's the key . . . I have nothing but urges now, so . . . *sigh* . . . if only . . . :daydreaming: :sigh:

sarah-smith

11-01-2006, 07:33 PM

If I woke up tommorow and it wasn't there... I wouldn't care as long as there was a fully functional vagina there in its place and I'd have the ability to become pregant and give birth...
in fact, I'd be overjoyed but worried as to what my fiancee would think :o

Jenna1561

11-01-2006, 10:24 PM

O.K., I've fathered 4 children and am done with that part of my life. I wouldn't miss my testicles or penis if I had to lose them, particularly, if I could still orgasm after the loss of the penis. Clothes would fit better and feel more comfortable. I'd lose them in a heartbeat.

Jenna

CaptLex

11-01-2006, 11:45 PM

Siobhan Marie

11-02-2006, 11:17 AM

My attitude towards my appendage is one of total contempt. As I've said in my previous post I play with it because its there and its all I have. I feel that I was born in the wrong body and with the wrong genitalia. I hate my appendage and please don't get me started on those horrid things that hang below it, they're horrible and I hate them.

:hugs: Anna Marie x

11-18-2006, 03:37 PM

i think the same as most here. if i lost " it " not a big deal

Kimberley

11-18-2006, 03:58 PM

If I could put it on ebay, I would. :lol:

I thought the point of this thread was to discuss how cisgendered men feel about their penises. After reading all the "I'd be just fine if my penis fell off tomorrow" threads, I think it's been changed.

Not too sure you are going to find any cisgendered men on this forum unless Dr. Phil is lurking. So, it just has to be second best, or is that first best?

:hugs:
Kimberley

billie17042

11-18-2006, 07:04 PM

I love my penis! And what would I hold when I pee?

CaptLex

11-18-2006, 09:17 PM

If I could put it on ebay, I would. :lol:
How much do you want for it? :tongueout

SusanTL

11-19-2006, 05:02 AM

Hi all.

I for one just love having breasts. I love the feel of my bra straps over my shoulders everyday. I can not wait until I have SRS, and get rid of the penis.

Hugs - Susan

Jena11

11-19-2006, 07:20 PM

Well, since an early age I always wished somthing would happen to mine so that I would not have to have it. I would give it up in a minute to be closer to being female. Jena:2c:

CaptLex

11-19-2006, 10:19 PM

Not too sure you are going to find any cisgendered men on this forum unless Dr. Phil is lurking. So, it just has to be second best, or is that first best?
Kimberley,

My point is that the responses I'm referring to are irrelevant to the thread's topic, so why post them? It's the same as if people were discussing cisgendered women's feelings about their breasts and I posted just to say I don't like mine - who would care? :p

11-20-2006, 12:17 AM

I thought the point of this thread was to discuss how cisgendered men feel about their penises. :confused: After reading all the "I'd be just fine if my penis fell off tomorrow" threads, I think it's been changed. :p

hi there
well since i don't know what "cisgendered" means i can't say too much but since ppl are talking about there lower body parts i will add my :2c: worth for me there apart of me i don't hate them but.. it should not be there so when i get the chance to get rid of it . then it's out of here.. and since the hrt has shrink them to almost nothing hiding it is not a problem .. hugs mj

CaptLex

11-20-2006, 10:28 AM

hi there
well since i don't know what "cisgendered" means
Okay, that's a valid question - cisgendered is the opposite of transgendered. Here's what Wikipedia says:

Cisgender an adjective that means non-transgender. In other words, a cisgender woman is someone who was female at birth, raised as a girl, and who identifies as a woman. In contrast, a transgender woman is someone who was male at birth, was most likely but not necessarily raised as a boy, and who identifies as a woman. That is, it provides a name for a gender identity that society considers to match or be appropriate for one's sex. The word is used in many transgender-inclusive and aware communities that want to challenge the notion that transgender is "abnormal," and instead reflects the view that there is a broad range of gender experience, rather than one "normal" one.

Kimberly

11-24-2006, 05:44 AM

The acid test is this, whilst I do not seek to have it removed, where it to be lost owing to some accident or had to be amputated I would NOT want a prosthetic nor restorative surgery but instead would want any vestage of it and my testicles removed and assuming I was not incontinent of urine as a result of the injury or illness to have a realistic vulva created in its place at least the labia if not the vaginal barrel itself.
I'm with you on this one.

Due to my obvious TGism, I don't think I would feel a huge amount of loss if I lost my penis some how... I've never been that fond of it, though do have a fairly average sex drive, and I must say it's given no one else plesure besides myself. Does this devalue it in society's eyes? Probably, due to the fact that I'm not using at as intended...?

I also find it hilarious when people try to belittle each other, men specifically, by refering to penis sizes. Now, with regards to mine, I couldn't care less what size it is -- the smaller the better, for tucking, really -- so "whatever!" Hah.

xx

CaptLex

11-24-2006, 10:59 AM

I'm with you on this one.

Due to my obvious TGism, I don't think I would feel a huge amount of loss if I lost my penis some how...
Okay, I give up . . . you all win. :(

Kimberly

11-24-2006, 08:12 PM

Lol.

"Read the full thread before posting, Kimberly, you stupid girl."

*Bonks self*

I know far too many guys who would rather die than loose their penis. It's an incredibly important part of the male identity, I think -- even to a point with me... if you imagine something painful happening down there you can't help but wince (at least!)

Sorry, Cap! :( xx

Margot

11-24-2006, 08:21 PM

I've done all I needed to do with my penis. Now I spend time trying to hide it or make it smaller. If it were gone, too bad, so sad. Pass the estrogen.:straightface:
Margot

Eva Marie

11-24-2006, 08:45 PM

". . .I hear from cisgendered men saying that their penis is very important to them, and that they would rather die than lose it. I never quite understood that viewpoint."

Good grief! No, I'd NOT rather die, but I could certainly adapt. I must say that some of these readings are distressing. My age is reported accurately in my profile and I still use the daylights out of the thing. Sometimes I think it's got to wear out one of these days, but it still has places to go and people to do.

For whatever my opinion's worth, keeping a sharp watch on one's physical AND mental health goes a long way towards good health in general. It truely is mind over matter.

11-25-2006, 10:17 PM

Okay, that's a valid question - cisgendered is the opposite of transgendered. Here's what Wikipedia says:

Cisgender
an adjective that means non-transgender. In other words, a cisgender woman is someone who was female at birth, raised as a girl, and who identifies as a woman. In contrast, a transgender woman is someone who was male at birth, was most likely but not necessarily raised as a boy, and who identifies as a woman. That is, it provides a name for a gender identity that society considers to match or be appropriate for one's sex. The word is used in many transgender-inclusive and aware communities that want to challenge the notion that transgender is "abnormal," and instead reflects the view that there is a broad range of gender experience, rather than one "normal" one.

thanks capt
so it means a reg guy or reg woman .. then

deeasheville

11-30-2006, 12:53 PM

Ya, given the choice of body parts to lose, if I had to choose, It'd be the testies first, the penis second. The older I get, the less I care about it, it was necessary for sex, but that's about all it's really good for, inless you count peeing standing up without making a big mess.:D It's easy enough to sit to pee.
Some men seem to think through their penis, (if they can't F-it, than F-it), that is one of the main reasons that I don't identify myself with most men.

Originally Posted by Margot
I've done all I needed to do with my penis. Now I spend time trying to hide it or make it smaller. If it were gone, too bad, so sad. Pass the estrogen.
Margot
I only used it two or three times a year, if I wear lucky.

Originally Posted by JenniferMint
". . .I hear from cisgendered men saying that their penis is very important to them, and that they would rather die than lose it. I never quite understood that viewpoint."

Eva Marie
Good grief! No, I'd NOT rather die, but I could certainly adapt.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't life preferred over sex?

CaptLex
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kimberley
If I could put it on ebay, I would.

How much do you want for it?
:OT:Ay CaptLex, how would you like to make history for the first SexSwop? :spank::roflmao:

CaptLex

11-30-2006, 01:12 PM

:OT:Ay CaptLex, how would you like to make history for the first SexSwop? :spank::roflmao:
Why am I getting spanked? I'm one of the few that stayed on topic . . . :slap:

eleventhdr

12-01-2006, 05:49 AM

HAving a penis is not what you think it is it can be a real burden a lot of the time>

I think that males who wonder about it or worry about it a lot must think that it has a brain or something and that it can think for itself which it can not.

It is just there because we are unfortunate to have been born with it.

But most of us who do feel this way would gladly sacrifice it to have a vagina instwad and to be able to experience and be real female and have the pleasures that only female's experience indeed it is far better as i do understand it to be female like this and to be able to give birth etc et all

So yeah losing my penis woulkd not be that big a deal if and when i could finally function as a real female instead

And what's so all fired wrong with that nothing i do think.

So why not just let it be one way or the other hmmm!

Suzy!

Marla S

12-01-2006, 06:40 AM

I think that males who wonder about it or worry about it a lot must think that it has a brain or something and that it can think for itself which it can not.
Oh it has a will of its own. Did you never had an errection at the wrong time, place, or situation when your brain told you that it is inapproriate but your little friend "thought" something different ? :D

On topic:

I think the most scaring thing is the: "It just dropps off - nothing left". And most CG-men would think that this is ment by the question.
Meaning to become asexual and insensitve. That would terrify me too.

The loss of the penis would probably acceptable for some CG-men too, if they could be convinced that SRS would keep them sexual active ... but you need a penis for that finally.

Marcie Sexton

12-01-2006, 07:07 AM

Would I, you bet your sweet bippy...If it was medically possible, I would gladly donate it to another needy person, my child rearing days are over, "we" are not very sexually active now, so its more of an extended drain pipe now...Just leave the skin so I could have the wanted changes made...:heehee:

CaptLex

12-01-2006, 10:18 AM

Oh it has a will of its own. Did you never had an errection at the wrong time, place, or situation when your brain told you that it is inapproriate but your little friend "thought" something different ? :D

On topic:

I think the most scaring thing is the: "It just dropps off - nothing left". And most CG-men would think that this is ment by the question.
Meaning to become asexual and insensitve. That would terrify me too.

The loss of the penis would probably acceptable for some CG-men too, if they could be convinced that SRS would keep them sexual active ... but you need a penis for that finally.
Marla,

Thank you for staying on topic and actually answering the question. I think that makes a lot of sense - even if a man is indifferent to his penis, I think he'd be horrified if there was just nothing left there (besides, how would he pee?).

HAving a penis is not what you think it is it can be a real burden a lot of the time
Once again, Suzy, don't assume you know what I might think it is. I can respect the fact that you don't want yours, now can you respect that I do want mine? :rolleyes: I may not be happy with my current set of genitals, but I wouldn't try to discourage any of you that wished to get what I have. How about a little sensitivity? :mad:

pocoyo

12-01-2006, 11:00 AM

Once again, Suzy, don't assume you know what I might think it is. I can respect the fact that you don't want yours, now can you respect that I do want mine? :rolleyes: I may not be happy with my current set of genitals, but I wouldn't try to discourage any of you that wished to get what I have. How about a little sensitivity? :mad:

Hear hear. That's as ridiculous as me or Lex saying "Ooh you really don't want boobs. They are really horrible".

JenniferMint

12-01-2006, 12:24 PM

Hear hear. That's as ridiculous as me or Lex saying "Ooh you really don't want boobs. They are really horrible".

If I was a GG I'd be fine with being flat-chested. :P

But being a GM, that would be bad for passing.

pocoyo

12-01-2006, 12:32 PM

If I was a GG I'd be fine with being flat-chested. :P

Haha me too :p

It was just an example, as well you know young lady *grin*

janedoe311

12-08-2006, 07:08 PM

Except for my wife's needs and having kids.

Do not like it, I find it embarrassing to have hanging down there, and would not miss it.

Strange am I not?

Sierra Evon

12-08-2006, 08:17 PM

The only function that my penis has is to pee-with, I'm not sexually active , and I sit to pee like girls do anyway , I'm just a girl that happens to have a penis , I dont concider it to making me any less of a girl , and if my penis and testicles were gone , I would not miss it , and I'd have a huge party and invite you all.......

JenniferMint

12-09-2006, 01:54 AM

Doesn't the SRS-created vagina close up if you don't have sex enough, even years post-op?

Lanore

12-09-2006, 07:57 AM

At my age and the length of time I've been who I am, I would have no problem losing the toy. It seems over time it's shrinking a bit, I guess from non use, (I live alone). Due to a reaction to steroids about 25 years ago in the weight lifting days, I developed two beautifull breasts. I was advised to have them removed because they looked like real female breasts, 38 full C. To me, haveing my two girls bouncing around, is a lot more important than what's between my legs.

Lanore

janedoe311

12-18-2006, 03:40 PM

And now we've turned a thread about men and penises into a discussion of vulvas and vaginas. I feel really bad about this, guys...

Fine with me made for great reading.

Wonder if they are working on getting natural lubrication?

On the subject,I do not like my thing but my wife does so I have to keep it!

CaptLex

12-18-2006, 03:57 PM

And now we've turned a thread about men and penises into a discussion of vulvas and vaginas. I feel really bad about this, guys...
Well, at least it worked for a little while. That subject (penises) is never going to get a whole lot of attention here. :p

Sierra Evon

12-18-2006, 04:44 PM