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Cristi

10-22-2006, 11:07 PM

I've been CDing for years and years, but except for one disasterous experiment with Duct tape, I've never really tried to create cleavage before. Part of the issue was the fact that I would have to shave my chest first, and I've always been hesitant to do that.

Well, this year I was thinking of new things to do for halloween and I decided to try to add a bit of cleavage to my outfit. So here is the result (are the results? :happy: ) of my first try. (the image is my new 'profile' photo, not the avatar. Click on my avatar photo to see it).

I started, after a shave of course, by picking up some strong cloth surgical tape at the local drug store. While at the drug store I also was asking about adhesive I could use for the forms. They special ordered some for me and I should get it in a few days. This should improve the results even more.

The entire process was actually quite a bit easier than I thought it was going to be. Some tape, some pushing and pullling, more tape, and I had two nice mounds of flesh. Once I added a bra and breast forms, things got even more prominent. I did the whole thing several times to play with different placements of the tape. Now when I walk I can actually feel the 'jiggle' of my own breast material where it is pushed together to make cleavage :happy: :happy:

The only thing I was not satisfied with was that there was some 'material' close to my underarms that was pushed up by the tape, but not really over toward the center. After thinking about it for a while, I cut two discs of plastic from old milk bottles and placed them against that area them taped them in place. This helped move things around quite a bit.

Finally, I found that using a bra that was a size too small for my forms helped shape things as it kept pressure on the forms which pushed the breasts upward and inward.

As I type this, I've had everything in place for a few hours. The tape isn't exactly comfortable, but nothing I can't deal with for a full day.

My last issue is that, since I've never shaved my chest in the past, I don't have any nice deep V neck blouses in my wardrobe! I'll have to head to the shops this week to rectify that. I know just what I want... a sheer white V-neck blouse with a bit of lace at the cleavage. :)

I can't wait to see how many people I catch 'sneaking a look' when I am out on halloween.

Pleas look at my profile pic for the results and send me tips (or marriage proposals?) :D

sandra-leigh

10-23-2006, 03:34 AM

My last issue is that, since I've never shaved my chest in the past, I don't have any nice deep V neck blouses in my wardrobe! I'll have to head to the shops this week to rectify that. I know just what I want... a sheer white V-neck blouse with a bit of lace at the cleavage. :)

All around here I see GGs casually showing a bit of cleavage -- by no means does "everyone" show cleavage, but it also is not uncommon to show at at least 1/2 inch at the top base (enough to see that there are two distinct breasts and a hollow between them.) The more inches exposed beyond that, the less common it becomes, but it is also a matter of coverage. 2" of cleavage exposure on a natural DD is still much more covered up than uncovered, so it is not considered particularily remarkable. Exposure of nearly the complete upper breast (e.g., mostly covered from the nipples down) is uncommon here, and attracts notice whether the wearer is a B or a G. (I may be a cross-dresser but I'm also a healthy hetro male, so Yes, I'm not immune to hoping for a good look without being too obvious about it and without staring.)

I've had a fairly difficult time in finding something cut low enough to show what cleavage I can muster myself "by hook or by crook". But since I enjoy viewing cleavage on GGs, I'd certainly like to be able to show some cleavage myself, so I keep looking.

A lot of GG seem to be able to display nice cleavage with nothing more than a top that is lightly scoop-necked. That just doesn't even come close for me -- I have to use something that is cut noticably far down, or which zips, or which has small buttons set close enough together to be able to adjust to show a bit but not the whole hidden support structure. I have discovered that front-zipped blouses are not at all common around here; there are front-zipped light pullover / fleece type deals, but they somehow look distinctly non-shift/blouse (i.e., would not look natural in the role.) Close buttoned is also not very common -- buttoned blouses here tend to only have about 5 buttons, which is far too crude to be able to show off "just the right amount". And the deepest-cut top that I've been able to find looks good when I put it on, but with any kind of movement the front rides upwards, re-settling to hide what I'm deliberately trying to show. I had to resort to a strategic safety pin keeping the V anchored down on my bra... It's also not my favourite colour, so I don't end up projecting the idea of "This is perfectly normal; I'm a woman who is comfortable dressing like this, so just take a look and enjoy what you see!"

In a thread a few weeks ago, the discussion was headed towards the possibility that my natural breasts are on the lower side of average positioning -- my nipples are about 2/3 of the way down between my shoulders and my elbows, which is not "abnormal" even in a female but is apparently not common: that nipples about 1/2 way down is apparently more typical. That's a difference of a close to a couple of inches, and when you put that together with my being 6' (and so taller than the average woman), what would be a distinct scoop-neck on many women merely shows off my not-particularily-sexy collar-bone.

Then there's the problem that the best I've been able to muster so far, pulling way over from the sides, is at most an A cup -- there just isn't a lot to show. And I have trouble getting a nice valley, too: if the force is relaxed enough to permit a space between the breasts then the relaxation permits the yanked-over flesh to sink back to near non-existance.

:sigh: I'd love to show clevage of my own, but I'd also settle for showing off what was really breast forms, if only the forms looked realistic enough to "pass" in normal light. (I enjoy so many aspects of the forms, but they are not a good match for anyone's skin tones.)

One thing I've found about showing cleavage, is that so far I find it kind of scary, or nerve-wracking. I'm finding it noticably difficult to just go out and let the cleavage be seen as if it were the most natural thing in the world. Partly it has to do with how much trouble I have to go through to show it off, which tends to make me feel as if I am doing just that: wearing something "unnatural" looking that is going to give observers the impression that I'm dressed ungracefully (or in ugly clothes) just to attract attention there. But where the rest of the fear comes from, I haven't figured out as yet.

I'm suspecting that some of the fear of showing cleavage has to do with the question of whether I am "a guy dressed as a woman who would like others to think they saw a woman if they didn't look closely, but whom isn't to worried about being 'read'", or whether I am "a guy who is really trying to make others believe he is a woman" and over into "Am I a male who is trying to be a woman?" and thence "What do I really want to be, a male or a female?"

Wearing forms and a bra and a wig and a dress or skirt or whatever, is sort of like a costume: although I find wearing a dress to be be very comfortable and think that I look pretty good in a number of the outfits I've bought, and although to a fair extent I feel pretty relaxed about being dressed in public: underneath I'm still "me". Dressed and relaxed, I might not be "acting like a man", and at the time I might be feeling, something like, "Oh right, I'm male, but that doesn't feel important right now; I'm feeling comfortable being somewhat female." But no matter how dressed and no matter how many "Mam's" or how may appreciative comments about my looks from passing men: underneath, I am not feeling as if, for that time that I am a woman. Fully dressed and out, I might not be feeling tightly anchored to maleness, but I'm at best swiming in the waters of feminity, not feeling as yet that even part of me "is really female right now".

Somehow, though, showing my own cleavage, home-grown, stresses me towards the idea that "To pull this off, you have to really be seen to be female"... and I know from experience that a lot of people read me easily (the others don't or else don't care.) But I also get tangled in the web of "You're male: do you really want to have real Boobs yourself, for real???". But I'm most conscious of thinking "Oh man, if you go out like this, people are going to read you so easily, and they are going to be actively bothered by this: a dress can be excused as 'just clothes', but when you start showing off your own tits, then people are going to think you're really crossing the boundary!"

So although I'd like to be able to generate nice-looking cleavage, and I'd like to get to the point of feeling comfortable going out with it visible, the former is technically difficult for me, and the latter is emotionally difficult for me.

It's nice to dream about being able to go out on a beach in a bikini with breasts all my own, and to have the guys think I was a hot babe (okay, "A fine figure of a woman at her age -- a MILF"), and to have the women enjoy the sight or enjoy being envious... unfortunately it doesn't seem very likely :( . (I did go to a local park on a sunny day, in a bikini underpinned by a slipping NuBra... I got some compliments and I got some "that looks stupid" laughs, and a few looks of disapproval; I think I'd be willing to risk it again, if I could shave and if I could get some some prep help.)