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noname
11-13-2006, 03:27 AM
Seems to me wives leave husbands over stupid things like clothes. So I thought, why not out the wife.

Your wearing pants!!!
Do you want to be a man?
Your not a lesbian are you?

Perhaps get a bit hysterical, call friends and family to tell them of her desire to be a man, then pack up and leave.

*a bit of satire to put it all in perspective.

Charity's GG
11-13-2006, 05:47 AM
We didnt hide the fact that we wore pants before you married us....:tongueout

Kate Simmons
11-13-2006, 06:13 AM
Okay, let's "out" the damn biddy and see how SHE likes it. Don't be surprised if we get laughed at in the process though. Funny how that works, huh?:happy: Ericka/Rich

Iniquity Blonde GG
11-13-2006, 06:24 AM
we already have what most want :thumbsup: :tongueout

GG Vanya
11-13-2006, 07:42 AM
Seems to me wives leave husbands over stupid things like clothes. So I thought, why not out the wife.

Your wearing pants!!! No dear I wear ladies' slacks or jeans.Do you want to be a man? No dear, I'm glad I was born female.
Your not a lesbian are you? No dear, I just adore sleeping with my MAN in lingerie.


Perhaps get a bit hysterical, call friends and family to tell them of her desire to be a man, then pack up and leave.

*a bit of satire to put it all in perspective.


So, when you get histerical and call friends and family, make sure you tell them my answer to question number three! :devil: :devil: :tongueout

FOCD
11-13-2006, 10:21 AM
the truth in the fashion world is that it is womans world.
They can wear whatever they like and still be free

great gg
11-13-2006, 10:55 AM
the truth in the fashion world is that it is womans world.
They can wear whatever they like and still be free

oooooooh baby, treading dangerous water here. Suck it up. most gg's married men who wore male clothing and acted male. then, one morning. afternoon, evening or night, the man they married in male clothes discerns that he/she wants to wear women's clothes and FEEL like a woman. that is quite different from wearing slacks and jeans because it is a fashion and they are comfortable. for gg's wearing female slacks and pants is not done to FEEL like men (I am speaking strictly as a gg and understand that mtfs dress in men's clothing to be male) soooo, the whining about outing females who respond emotionaly to losing the male they married is without much depth. The response is to the loss of the world as they knew it. AND, each one is different, some of us gg's are actually incredibly warm and supportive and some are not. just as some cd's are not exactly the best example of human beings and some are. :2c:
the satire was lost on me.

noname
11-13-2006, 01:07 PM
the truth in the fashion world is that it is womans world.
They can wear whatever they like and still be free

I agree, I asked my wife, is there any clothing that is exclusively for males? After a nice long one minute pause. I got a, no I guess there isn't.

Roberta Lynn
11-13-2006, 01:15 PM
I agree, I asked my wife, is there any clothing that is exclusively for males? After a nice long one minute pause. I got a, no I guess there isn't.

Jock Strap?? :D

JenniferMint
11-13-2006, 06:23 PM
I agree, I asked my wife, is there any clothing that is exclusively for males? After a nice long one minute pause. I got a, no I guess there isn't.

Men's briefs?

trannie T
11-13-2006, 06:27 PM
I hope you're going to enjoy sleeping in the garage for the next nineteen months.

Nigella
11-13-2006, 06:52 PM
the truth in the fashion world is that it is womans world.
They can wear whatever they like and still be free

So why are most of the top designers women,

and who says men cant wear what they like and be free

I do, and I dont come any cheaper than free :devil:


I agree, I asked my wife, is there any clothing that is exclusively for males? After a nice long one minute pause. I got a, no I guess there isn't.

Is there any clothing that is exclusively for females? Who decides what is exclusive, and let anyone tell me I cant wear what I want to wear, including


Jock Strap?? :D

:tongueout

Tamara Croft
11-13-2006, 06:57 PM
I agree, I asked my wife, is there any clothing that is exclusively for males? After a nice long one minute pause. I got a, no I guess there isn't.Hmm.... I think you're a bit wrong there. Mens clothes are made differently, they are shaped different..... Take a mans suit, the leg cut is totally different to a womans cut, same with the jacket, the shoulders are broader....

*gets the violins out* :violin: :violin:

tekla west
11-13-2006, 07:04 PM
wow, seems to me we've been down this road before. Of course, had you been honest with yourself and others, perhaps she might have met you dressed, there are lots and lots of super kinky women, too bad you settled without finding one.

noname
11-14-2006, 12:26 AM
wow, seems to me we've been down this road before. Of course, had you been honest with yourself and others, perhaps she might have met you dressed, there are lots and lots of super kinky women, too bad you settled without finding one.

Problem here, I was honest from the get go. I didn't realize I had these issues till this last spring.


Hmm.... I think you're a bit wrong there. Mens clothes are made differently, they are shaped different..... Take a mans suit, the leg cut is totally different to a womans cut, same with the jacket, the shoulders are broader....

*gets the violins out*

Easy for you to say. Yes, I am very bored with the same cuts over and over and over again. Say, let me know next time your in the store and there are mens skits for purchase.

GG Vanya
11-14-2006, 01:03 AM
Ask and ye shall receive! :devil:

http://www.skortman.com/

Now whatcha gonna complain about huh?

great gg
11-14-2006, 01:11 AM
Easy for you to say. Yes, I am very bored with the same cuts over and over and over again. Say, let me know next time your in the store and there are mens skits for purchase.

And I am VERY bored with your whining.:devil:

Kate Simmons
11-14-2006, 05:34 AM
Anyway, the foregoing all having been considered, Ericka doesn't give a rat's pitudie what she wears really, so it's a non issue with me. I'm just as comfortable wearing guy clothes as girl clothes as my femme self. I agree with the real gals here in saying the satire is lost on me. Then again, with me , being Ericka is about who I am as a person and not the clothes I'm wearing.:happy: Ericka/Rich

Wendy me
11-14-2006, 06:23 AM
you know i was just thinking why do the sillyest threads get so many people responding??? then i clicked on this...... wonders off shaking here head......

Iniquity Blonde GG
11-14-2006, 06:37 AM
u know bin liners are quite fetching !! :D the black ones of course , there you c !!! :eek: ul have ur very own little black number lol :tongueout :heehee:

flatlander_48
11-14-2006, 09:17 AM
Seems to me wives leave husbands over stupid things like clothes. So I thought, why not out the wife.

Your wearing pants!!!
Do you want to be a man?
Your not a lesbian are you?

Perhaps get a bit hysterical, call friends and family to tell them of her desire to be a man, then pack up and leave.

*a bit of satire to put it all in perspective.

You would be wise to have the car gased and running before you did that...

MJ
11-16-2006, 10:05 PM
wow, seems to me we've been down this road before. Of course, had you been honest with yourself and others, perhaps she might have met you dressed,
there are lots and lots of super kinky women, too bad you settled without finding one.

ok were are they then ? :D

Kimberley
11-16-2006, 10:07 PM
Isnt it time to move on? This whole concept is really getting stale.

:thumbsdn:

Kimberley

FOCD
11-16-2006, 10:10 PM
there is a term in yiddish not sure what it is exactly, but the loose translation is a "schmeckel warmer"

exclusively male

Satrana
11-17-2006, 12:34 AM
soooo, the whining about outing females who respond emotionaly to losing the male they married is without much depth. The response is to the loss of the world as they knew it.

Unless the husband is a ts or wants to go full time, they are not losing the male at all. Instead they gain a male who now wants to openly express his feminine side on occasion instead of hiding it and being an incomplete person. The loss is only the SOs perception not the reality, as the male is still there. Its kinda like the glass half empty or half full outlook. It is the SOs negativity towards crossdressing that makes her view the new situation as a loss.

When you daughter gets married, have you lost her or have you gained a son-in-law?

bobby_hansen
11-17-2006, 12:49 AM
Hmm.... I think you're a bit wrong there. Mens clothes are made differently, they are shaped different..... Take a mans suit, the leg cut is totally different to a womans cut, same with the jacket, the shoulders are broader....

*gets the violins out* :violin: :violin:

Umm, yeah, except they don't make male skirts for sale at Younkers, Kohls, Von Maur, Dillards, etc... They do make women's suits though. Yes, they are cut different, but what male clothing is exclusively for their gender (and not an undergarment)? I can think of two in the women's world - skirts and dresses.

great gg
11-17-2006, 01:12 AM
Unless the husband is a ts or wants to go full time, they are not losing the male at all. Instead they gain a male who now wants to openly express his feminine side on occasion instead of hiding it and being an incomplete person. The loss is only the SOs perception not the reality, as the male is still there. Its kinda like the glass half empty or half full outlook. It is the SOs negativity towards crossdressing that makes her view the new situation as a loss.

When you daughter gets married, have you lost her or have you gained a son-in-law?

Well, it kind of depends on whether the son in law is going to remain a son in law or suddenly tell my daughter that he is a she. then i would have a daughter in law. you are right in the fact that they don't lose a male, but they lose the illlusion that the male gave them whhen they first married, if the male did not disclose those proclivities. so , dont' tell me you would feel enhanced if your female so suddently decided that she was ftm after 20 + years of marriage and wanted you to love her and let her make love to yous though she were the male. My point is taht loss is loss is loss. andnot to accept that the loss of an illusion is painful is bull***. I happen to be a 100% supportive of my so, but he/she was totally open and understaneding on how hard it was for me to suddenly accept him as a cd after 26 years of marriage. that has made all the difference.

Angie G
11-17-2006, 01:25 AM
I'm not going there hun :hugs:
Angie

JennaKnots
11-17-2006, 01:37 AM
Well, it kind of depends on whether the son in law is going to remain a son in law or suddenly tell my daughter that he is a she. then i would have a daughter in law. you are right in the fact that they don't lose a male, but they lose the illlusion that the male gave them whhen they first married, if the male did not disclose those proclivities. so , dont' tell me you would feel enhanced if your female so suddently decided that she was ftm after 20 + years of marriage and wanted you to love her and let her make love to yous though she were the male. My point is taht loss is loss is loss. andnot to accept that the loss of an illusion is painful is bull***. I happen to be a 100% supportive of my so, but he/she was totally open and understaneding on how hard it was for me to suddenly accept him as a cd after 26 years of marriage. that has made all the difference.

What do you think, and anyone else who cares to chime in, of a case where the spouse does know all along, but only expresses genuine dismay long after the fact?

As I said in my subject line, I'm not asking this to be antagonistic, I'd genuinely like to know what people think. I acted this out with my wife a few times within the first month of our dating. She wasn't totally "into" it, but she wasn't appalled, either. She was basically fine with doing it with me once in awhile.

Over time it she liked it less and less, and now after 12 years, she'll tolerate me doing it on my own, but clearly would prefer if it didn't exist at all, and is pretty freaked out about it.

I'm not saying she's not entitled to change/develop new feelings around something, but I do feel kind of hurt and a bit frustrated about it. I don't go out in public dressed, none of her friends or family know, I have no plans in becoming an actual woman, and I haven't spent much time in the 12 years we've been together really pursuing cd'ing.

I think it's a bit unfair. She's a great woman and she's doing her best (as am I), but I'm kinda pissed. I mean, if it's ok for a GG to be angry if she suddenly finds out her husband is a CD, then I think it's reasonable for me to be angry to find out that part of who I am (and have been open about from the get-go) is really not ok with her.

What do other's think?