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Ms. Donna
12-02-2006, 09:34 AM
Riding the Long Island Railroad

As a Genderqueer, I often wonder just how people are reading me. Sometimes it is clear (e.g. being addressed as sir or miss) while other times I can only guess (based on looks from people and other nonverbal cues.) I have thought that it would be interesting to log how I have been read and see if there is any pattern over time, but it is not very practical on a day-to-day basis.

Somewhat unintentionally, I have been able to gather some long-term data with respect to how people read me. I have been saving my monthly LIRR tickets ever since one was ‘mistakenly’ punched as female and I have accumulated nine years worth tickets. Each ticket indicates for a month how the conductor on the train read me. While not a huge sample set, it is enough to yield some interesting results – allowing me to see, to some small extent, how people’s perception of me has changed over time.

All monthly LIRR tickets have two boxes on them with an ‘M’ and an ‘F’ for male and female. The idea behind it is to help prevent people from sharing tickets. Here is a sample of a monthly ticket:

http://cydathria.com/images/misc/lirr_aug_06.jpg
At the start of the month, the conductor is supposed to punch the ‘M’ or ‘F’ your ticket as appropriate. This is usually a quick, couple second procedure: take the ticket, punch it, hand it back. In my case, however, they are not always sure what to choose, as is evidenced above.

For the first four years, I only saved tickets punched as female (figuring that it was a one off type thing) so I am assuming that any missing tickets were punched as male. There have been a few instances where my ticket was punched one way, only to be changed later on by another conductor. In these cases, I have counted the ticket twice: once as male and once as female as I was read differently each time. There are also several cases where my ticket was never punched at all. I have omitted these from the counts, as I have no way to know how I was read.

Somewhat more interesting are the cases mentioned above where my ticket was punched, but the conductor choose neither ‘M’ nor ‘F’ – choosing instead to bunch it somewhere in the middle. I have categorized these as ‘Not Sure’.

The Data

The following table(s) and graph summarize how my tickets have been punched over the past nine years:

http://cydathria.com/images/misc/ticket_punches.jpg

Context

The end of 1998 is when my gender issues came to a head. I considered the ‘mispunched’ tickets that year just that. I considered the ‘mispunched’ tickets in 1999 the same as well.

Between the later parts of 1999 through 2001, I started presenting more ‘ambiguously’ at work

During 2002, I was relocated to Manhattan from Jersey City and standard ‘Business attire’ (i.e. a suit and tie) was required.

From 2003 onward, I was back in Jersey City and began presenting as Trans (more androgynous) on a regular (and increasing) basis.

Observations

July seems to be the most likely month for me to be read as ‘undecided’.

December seems to be the most likely month for me to be read as ‘female’.

The degree to which I have been read as ‘female’ corresponds to my increasingly Trans presentation since 2003.

Conclusions

None. But I do find it interesting.

Just some more of my ‘gendered journey’ thus far.


Love & Stuff,
Donna

Shelly Preston
12-02-2006, 09:43 AM
Interesting experment

I guess you would have to take account of how you are dressed as well

Teresa Amina
12-02-2006, 10:14 AM
Interesting experment

I guess you would have to take account of how you are dressed as well

For your ongoing research keep track of the weather. More clothes=more female id? Will a raincoat bring more undecideds? Does a plain black umbrella mean male and a nice one mean female? Does the size of the crowd influence things?(oops! You're in NY- it's always a crowd!:D )

Sharon
12-02-2006, 11:43 AM
You may be passing better in recent years than you previously had, but it is also possible that the conductors have been taught, with more exposure to crossdressing, if not instruction from their employers, to mark the tickets accordingly to how a passenger presents him or herself.

Kimberley
12-03-2006, 01:16 AM
Okay, I know this is definitely going to get read the wrong way by some people... What is the standard deviation? (Statistical Analysis people, Stats.) I wont ask about a control group.

Just kidding.... It's the engineering background coming out.

I think the frequency of female reads in the colder months is probably more likely to attire. The conductor is more likely to read you based on your dress rather than features.

:hugs:
Kimberley

ps. Good to see you again Donna.

Joy Carter
12-03-2006, 01:22 AM
Donna all the charts and grafts can't determine how you feel about you. Just take life as you like it Hun and melt into the crowd.:hugs:

Calliope
12-03-2006, 10:52 PM
Yay, you. The world needs more womyn scientists.

Clare
12-04-2006, 06:15 AM
That's an interesting chart you have there Donna! It speaks volumes about perception over time, but perception by bored conductors is all it is. Not to mention you may be presenting femme more effectively in later years too.

Still, it's an interesting observation - i'm sure there is some relevant substance to your "survey".

Ms. Donna
12-04-2006, 11:14 AM
What is the standard deviation?
I prefer to think of myself as a non-standard deviation. :)


I won't ask about a control group.
Actually, I consider the control group to be everyone else except me. Yes, I realize that I am not necessarily the only transperson on the train - but I've yet to spot another in the car I'm always in. I'm pretty sure that I'm the only one in the vicinity.

As I see it, how I'm read is based on the interpretation of the gendered cues I give. I easily get read as a woman from behind, based on little more than my hair style. Add earrings and my purse and I'm almost guaranteed to be read as a woman. Even face to face, I'm good about 50% of the time.

Summer is the hardest. Chest hair is a giveaway (I don't shave my chest or arms) but not a problem unless I'm wearing an open neck shirt. Even then, if it's not noticed, I can get read as a woman. Cooler weather is definitely better as sweaters cover up a lot of sins.

Features... I have well maintained brows, soft, wavy, neck length hair and a noticeable bust-line which can look surprisingly 'proportionate' considering the 'big girl' that I am. Looks best in a sweater - but then, they always do. ;)

I doubt that there has been any 'trans education' of the railroad conductors. I have had the same conductor punch 'F' one month and 'M' the next. I do believe that it is based on what they are 'seeing' that day.

What I do definitely falls within the definition of GenderF*ck: it may not be to the extent that others out there do, but that's what it is. I don't really make an effort to 'pass' as a woman - although I do prefer to be read that way. I present myself to the world as, well, me - and that's something somewhere 'left of center' as far as gender presentation is concerned. I have had some very interesting (quite friendly) interactions with people where I not sure exactly what they read me as.


Donna all the charts and grafts can't determine how you feel about you.
Oh I know how I feel about myself and it is not based on how others perceive me. I treat this as "For entertainment purposes only..." I don't consider there to be anything scientific about this. As far as I'm concerned, all this does prove is a point I've maintained for a long time: people will gender you as they see fit - regardless of how you gender yourself.


Like I said, it's all for fun. :D


Love & Stuff,
Donna

Kimberley
12-04-2006, 11:25 AM
I prefer to think of myself as a non-standard deviation. :) ,,,

Now that's funny love.:heehee:

Siobhan Marie
12-04-2006, 06:57 PM
Interesting experment

I guess you would have to take account of how you are dressed as well

:iagree: with Shelly, that does make interesting reading.

:hugs: Anna Marie x