Evolution

[Diana West]

I've been looking but I haven't found any threads that have mentioned this.

In the beginning, feeling feminine was important. Wearing women's clothes and putting on make-up made me feel feminine. Now, I want to look feminine.
Feeling feminine isn't enough for me. I really want to look and move and act feminine. I have been practicing my make-up and walk. I spent a full hour this weekend sitting like a woman while I watched television. I've working out to lose my gut only to look better in a dress.

Have any of you gone through a similar evolution?
Did you want to feel feminine first then look feminine?
Did you want to look feminine then act feminine?
Or did it happen all at the same time for you?

[Calliope]

I would guess most start off looking feminine and then, with observation (of GGs) and experience (going out), one starts to feel feminine.

You know you are feeling comfortably fem when the skirts begin to yield to (woman's) pants as the weather cools down.

I think.

[tekla west]

It only makes sense, you can only do a few things at a time, so as you get better at some others open up to exploration.

[Marla S]

Have any of you gone through a similar evolution?
Did you want to feel feminine first then look feminine?
Did you want to look feminine then act feminine?
Or did it happen all at the same time for you?

In general I agree

According to my own experiences and some pics from the forum here, I'd say feeling feminine comes first.
"Give me some fem item (sterotypical ones prefered) and some makeup and I feel fem". If it looks good or appropriate doesn't really matter - PINK GLASSES.

Than comes developing a personal style by practice and observation --> more natural (woman-like) look.

Acting feminine. Almost the same.
I think we start with affected movements, and it takes some practice to give it a woman-like flow.

All in all a regular evolution.

[Kate Simmons]

This may come off being crude to some folks here Janis, but I gave up on that a long time ago.How do you ACT like a woman? Do women act like "women"? I don't know. Unless someone is planning on going to Charm School to act like a proper "lady", I'd say the sky is the limit.Anyway, I'm not one to act pretentious. Too much work involved with that. I started out studying how women move, etc. Too hard. I watched my wife do things and she was a real woman woman. She did not, however, walk with one foot in front of the other and all that other stuff people talk about. On more than one occassion, she didn't sit with her legs crossed, yadda, yadda, all the things a "real" woman is supposed to do. In the end I just decided to be myself. Of course I don't stroll down the street like a bulldog but don't go out of my way to walk a certain way either. The point is you have to be convinced of who you are. No amount of "training" is going to do that for you. I find if I'm just myself and act naturally, I'm better off in more ways than one and that's the Ericka people accept and relate to. You'll have no lack of "experts" telling you how to do things but some things are inherent and part of your makeup and really can't be changed or modified. That's why I don't worry about "passing" and it's not a big deal for me. That's just me, however because for me , it's just easier to be myself.:happy: Ericka Kay

[Sierra Evon]

I think that , if you are really seeking to act the part in an evdevore , to feel more feel more femine , it just maybe you own perseption of what is really femme, in my case that part already comes off naturally, so it was the reverse just needed to dress-to be me.....does that sorta make sence:happy:

[marie354]

I too dress to be me. I'm relaxed when I'm home and dressed. Really would like a fem voice.

[Kenix]

I think I am at the beginning stage of trying to look femme, actually more like should I go to that stage. It will be a huge investment in time and effort.

[CarmenG]

This may come off being crude to some folks here Janis, but I gave up on that a long time ago.How do you ACT like a woman? Do women act like "women"? I don't know. Unless someone is planning on going to Charm School to act like a proper "lady", I'd say the sky is the limit.Anyway, I'm not one to act pretentious. Too much work involved with that. I started out studying how women move, etc. Too hard. I watched my wife do things and she was a real woman woman. She did not, however, walk with one foot in front of the other and all that other stuff people talk about. On more than one occassion, she didn't sit with her legs crossed, yadda, yadda, all the things a "real" woman is supposed to do. In the end I just decided to be myself. Of course I don't stroll down the street like a bulldog but don't go out of my way to walk a certain way either. The point is you have to be convinced of who you are. No amount of "training" is going to do that for you. I find if I'm just myself and act naturally, I'm better off in more ways than one and that's the Ericka people accept and relate to. You'll have no lack of "experts" telling you how to do things but some things are inherent and part of your makeup and really can't be changed or modified. That's why I don't worry about "passing" and it's not a big deal for me. That's just me, however because for me , it's just easier to be myself.:happy: Ericka Kay

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I do not believe I could have said this any better. As is with life, we travel a road we choose. Others come along and get off at their "STOP". You on the other hand continue on and off this road at your pace and at your own develpement rate, whatever that maybe, but nonetheless at your pace. Some of us grow into being that unique person that we are. With the ability to expound on both sides of the road..... What more could we as for, huh..:^5:

[DarleneCD]

before we can become women we have to be girls and then teenage girls.

The point I'm trying to make, is that most females go through the same type of behavior. Take a look at the teenage girls in the mall they are scantily clad, full of hair and makeup. They also think it is hip to have their hot pink thong peeking out the top of their short skirt. They are probably the majority buyers of push up bras as well. Now look at some of the older women. You might say they look more comfortable. They can still be beautiful, they just are more content with who they are naturally.

Just because we may start at an adult age doesn't mean we don't make the same journey.

I'm not saying any of this is bad at all, that is not my point. I just think it is a natural progression that all us girls share. As I grow older and more experienced as a Crossdresser I also have become more comfortable and content with who I am. I have changed from the flashy to the comfortable and classy. Of course I still have a few hot items I like to wear on special occasions. I think that I am on par with a GG of slightly younger age.
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[Diana West]

I'm not saying that I want to learn how to fake it. On the contrary.

It's just that when I'm dressed en femme, somethings I do just look wrong.
Just like I'm working on my make-up skills and my overall look.
When dressed en femee, it feels right to walk a certain way or gesture a certain way. For me, it is the whole experience of being feminine.
Internally, I feel feminine and externally I want to express it.
It is a joining of the body and spirit. It is balancing the mental with the physical.

[Kate Simmons]

I knew what you meant Janis. Of course, you should do what is right for you. You have to go with your own feelings after all. I respect that. I was mostly relating my realizations during my own personal "evolution" and this is what works for me. If you feel comfortable practicing the walking and gestures, etc. then by all means, go for it. To my knowledge, there is no one person who is THE definitive CD, however. Everyone is different and an individual. I just wanted to point out that no one needs to think that they have to act a "certain way" as their femme self. Every one of my friends who knows me as Ericka pretty much knows what to expect which is the unexpected. I keep everyone guessing including myself along the way. Never know what's going to come out of this crazy little head for sure. I do have a lot of fun with it though because I know it's me.:happy: Ericka Kay