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Michelle8
12-31-2006, 02:29 PM
I have started tanning.I love the way it looks with my clothes
especially white clothes.With my shaved legs and arms it looks
great.Do any of you other girls tan?

Rachel Morley
12-31-2006, 02:33 PM
I do....but only in the summer and now only with fake self tanning lotions, (although I do use the better quality ones). I've spent too many hours on sun beds and in real sunlight in the past for my own good and now I'm too wrinkled to want to "do real" any more more. :(

Sharon
12-31-2006, 02:34 PM
I used to, then I started getting all these freckles, and who knows if they'll develop into something.

Use a tanning product -- it's safer.

Karren H
12-31-2006, 02:35 PM
I'd rather be white and not risk the skin cancer thing...

Karren

Wendy me
12-31-2006, 02:39 PM
i tanned all year long this winter giveing a break ..... omg i never been this light ....

Kitty Sue
12-31-2006, 02:52 PM
I am planning on it when it. I just bought 2 new swim suits from bodybody.com. I can't wait to get those tan lines. Very sexy.

Ashley1
12-31-2006, 02:54 PM
If you have blue eyes and/or fair skin, get out of the tanning bed or you will spend a lot of time with your dermatologist later in your life. I hit the beach often, played a lot of golf and spent a lot of time outdoors, and for the last fifteen or more years the skin doc and I have been on a first name basis. Look up melanoma on one of the computer medical sites.

Shelly Preston
12-31-2006, 02:54 PM
Any tan I get is purely natural and I am still careful with that

I would not go anywhere near a sunbed

Please be careful you dont want to get Melanoma

marie354
12-31-2006, 03:07 PM
I certainly would love to have the tan lines, but the UV rays can kill you. It seems, I guess because of global warming, that the UV level is getting higher every year. So, I'll stick to the dyes for tanning.
:hugs:

Felicity
12-31-2006, 11:26 PM
Wow, so much distrust of the sun, real and artificial.

I tan regularly, and it becomes addictive. The heightened moods are great, and I feel recharged every time I tan.

There is a growing consensus that the sun does not cause skin cancer. I believe it is the chemicals we ingest daily from processed foods, and absorb in the skin from lotions. What happens, is the sun brings body toxins to the skin. This increases the likelihood of getting skin cancer. Therefore, I take salt baths. The salts help the toxins leave the body.

I tan on a regular basis. My favorite bed has 44 – 160 watt lamps. It also has four 500 watt facial lamps. I sometimes use the standup tanner instead, which has 46 or 48 of the 160 watt lamps. I actually have better skin than when I started tanning. I attribute that to taking a salt bath after tanning. At 46 years, I have better skin than most in their 30's.

At least some sun, more than most of us get with clothes on, is needed by the body! I consider tanning, especially from the high pressure beds, safer than sunlight. There is more UVA and less UVB as a percentage than in sunlight. The UVB is believed to cause the burning and cancer. High pressure tanning beds have 3% or less of their spectra as UVB radiation.

Anyway, I tan al least twice a week in these off months. I use natural sunlight in the summer.

Believe as you all must. I will never believe the sun causes cancer No from my God. I believe it is the trigger to make the chemicals we take in to do the damage. I believe the combined tanning and salt baths will keep me from getting cancer! Ever hear of an avid surfer getting skin cancer? Eat more natural. Buy less canned boxed and processed foods. Get vegetables and fruits from farmers markets. I really believe cancer is caused by the unnatural chemicals we are exposed to regularly, not from God's creations!

Those of you using artificial tanning creams.... I hope you know what you're doing.... I would suggest you have a greater chance of developing skin cancer than I do!

bikini02
12-31-2006, 11:53 PM
I do. I really like the way it acents curves. Plus it makes me feel sexy.

Katelyn
01-01-2007, 01:01 AM
I did it once. I plan on going back just to even out the skin tones. My face and arms are way darker than the rest of my body.

Sedona
01-01-2007, 10:26 AM
I've got a genetic tan, but if I want some thong lines, I go with a sunless tanner. The biggest benefit for me is that it fades in several days. The marks left by either sun (or electric beach) tanning can last for many many months. Heck, I've still got cycling short tan lines, and my legs haven't seen the sun since late September. If it's an issue, it'll be tough to explain thong/bra tan lines in the middle of winter (or any other time).

Felicity
01-01-2007, 06:10 PM
The marks left by either sun (or electric beach) tanning can last for many many months. Heck, I've still got cycling short tan lines, and my legs haven't seen the sun since late September.
That is a major benifit of a tanning bed, or nude beach. Get enough of a tan all over, and you have no unwanted tan lines! We have two nude beaches I regularly frequent in the Portland area in the summer.

sissystephanie
01-01-2007, 10:21 PM
[QUOTE=Felicity;687044]Wow, so much distrust of the sun, real and artificial.

I tan regularly, and it becomes addictive. The heightened moods are great, and I feel recharged every time I tan.[Quote]

I couldn't agree more. I go to a Tanning Salon at least once a week. The secret is to pick a very good Salon, and to use the proper pre-tanning and after tanning formula's. I am 74 1/2 years old and have better looking skin than any of my much younger friends (male or female). In fact, my own doctor,who is in his 60's. just last month asked me how I kept my skin looking so great and so soft. I learned how to care for my skin from my dear departed wife, God rest her soul. Even though she had cancer, her skin at age 72 was like that of a woman in her 30's. Our daughter was jealous, because she doesn't take care of her own skin like her Mom did. Her loss!

A good tanning salon does not give you the UV rays, which "may" be harmful. At least not in the quantity that you get from being out in the sun. As Felicity said, believe what you want but please do some research before you distrust everything.

BTW, Felicity, I grew up in Portland and still love the city. Even if it is a little weird now!:heehee:

Sissy

More Girl then man

Sedona
01-02-2007, 12:00 AM
That is a major benifit of a tanning bed, or nude beach. Get enough of a tan all over, and you have no unwanted tan lines! We have two nude beaches I regularly frequent in the Portland area in the summer.


True, true, but I've already got the all-over tan thing down cold. I go for the effect (sunless) for the cute bra/thong lines, and I'm glad the kind in a bottle fades quickly.

Susiegirl
01-02-2007, 02:32 PM
I go to the gym at least 5 times a week and tanning after a workout is great for relaxing

Amanda Jane
01-02-2007, 02:41 PM
your body is supposed to get sun / you need it for good health physical and mental / while i don't just lay there and bake in it like a flounder on the beach i get as much as I can / walk, ride bikes, swim - if the sun is out i'm taking it / never fake sun that is too weird

telawilson
01-02-2007, 03:01 PM
I like tanning for real, in the sun, but in Ohio, my time is limited. Went to NC last summer, and I still have tan lines on my arms from my wet suit! 18 months ago!

janedoe311
01-02-2007, 03:17 PM
I'd rather be white and not risk the skin cancer thing...

Karren

The sun damages the skin and will age it faster. Tan people will look older.

I wore a sun shirt all summer and my arms are no longer tan and now my skin looks younger.

I like the pale look. A Irish redhead with pale skin is beautiful in my eyes.

Dawntv
01-02-2007, 04:44 PM
been tanning for a while now that i am with a gg who knows and everything is ok. I love my thong lines soooooo very sexy. wish i could show em off here butt don't want to get in trouble ha ha

avawho
01-02-2007, 04:48 PM
One thing to remember is that tanning whether in a booth or outside can potentially cause your skin damage if you over do things so to speak...
Everything in moderation except dressing girl...

I too have many a freckle and mole from tanning when younger:( , in fact one day I actually thought to "count" how many I had but got discusted and gave once I got to 200 of em... Thankfully all are "safe" to this point, but I sure watch it now that I'm not young and invincible anymore:heehee: .

Cheers
Ava:love:

Shadeauxmarie
01-02-2007, 04:49 PM
Wow, so much distrust of the sun, real and artificial.

I tan regularly, and it becomes addictive. The heightened moods are great, and I feel recharged every time I tan.

There is a growing consensus that the sun does not cause skin cancer. I believe it is the chemicals we ingest daily from processed foods, and absorb in the skin from lotions. What happens, is the sun brings body toxins to the skin. This increases the likelihood of getting skin cancer. Therefore, I take salt baths. The salts help the toxins leave the body.

I tan on a regular basis. My favorite bed has 44 – 160 watt lamps. It also has four 500 watt facial lamps. I sometimes use the standup tanner instead, which has 46 or 48 of the 160 watt lamps. I actually have better skin than when I started tanning. I attribute that to taking a salt bath after tanning. At 46 years, I have better skin than most in their 30's.

At least some sun, more than most of us get with clothes on, is needed by the body! I consider tanning, especially from the high pressure beds, safer than sunlight. There is more UVA and less UVB as a percentage than in sunlight. The UVB is believed to cause the burning and cancer. High pressure tanning beds have 3% or less of their spectra as UVB radiation.

Anyway, I tan al least twice a week in these off months. I use natural sunlight in the summer.

Believe as you all must. I will never believe the sun causes cancer No from my God. I believe it is the trigger to make the chemicals we take in to do the damage. I believe the combined tanning and salt baths will keep me from getting cancer! Ever hear of an avid surfer getting skin cancer? Eat more natural. Buy less canned boxed and processed foods. Get vegetables and fruits from farmers markets. I really believe cancer is caused by the unnatural chemicals we are exposed to regularly, not from God's creations!

Those of you using artificial tanning creams.... I hope you know what you're doing.... I would suggest you have a greater chance of developing skin cancer than I do!

Direct exposure to sunlight is direct exposure to gamma radiation. Think about it.

janedoe311
01-02-2007, 04:58 PM
Ultraviolet light breaks down cells and causes them to mutate, that is a fact. When mutated cells reproduce it is CANCER.

Believe what you like but sun exposure causes cancer and premature ageing of the skin, (surely you can not deny that.)

Look at the skin of a 30,40 or 59 year old sunbather and compare them to someone with light skin that stays out of the sun. The sun bather will look like a prune, I know many and they are sorry they spent so much time in the sun!

Doctors have traced skin cancer (Melanoma) in people to one bad sun burn as a child. Count your moles, that is what the doctor does. The more sun you get the more moles you get and it is one of those moles that is where the cancer starts usually melanoma.

So good luck and I hope you have good health insurance.

Cassie Cas
01-02-2007, 05:32 PM
I tan and it is exhilerating! However, I don't want to feel too good too often so I go every other week.

Amanda Jane
01-02-2007, 05:49 PM
i surf and have always used a wet suit so the sun ain't no thing on the water / but short shorts, tank tops, short skirts out in the warm calfornia sun, even in january / can't beat it / too much is no doubt bad, when is too much of anything good? / but no one looks good goth, not even peter murphy

Felicity
01-02-2007, 07:56 PM
Direct exposure to sunlight is direct exposure to gamma radiation. Think about it.
We don't have direct exposure from the sun. Our atmosphere blocks most gamma radiation and all the UVC radiation. If you know anything about gamma radiation, then you know that even the house you live in doesn't protect you from it! It goes through almost everything with ease. Our charged atmosphere and magnetic field around the earth protects us from gamma radiation. Not our clothes, house, sunscreen, etc. It also takes a relatively large dose of gamma radiation to harm us since it usually passes though matter without colliding with any of the nuclei.

I am not saying an excess of sun isn't bad for you. Just that it isn't as bad as most people think! The commercial scare of the sun has sold how much sunscreen over the years? People get various types of cancer all the time, without knowing the cause. Skin cancer does not have to be the result of the sun. I would say that those overdoing it, and getting bad sunburns, can get cancer from the sun easily. Just don't overdo it.

jamie_44
01-02-2007, 08:30 PM
I tan 2-3 times a week and love it. I use a good lotion with a low spf factor. I use the time on the tan bed to meditate.

Amanda Jane
01-02-2007, 08:34 PM
"Direct exposure to sunlight is direct exposure to gamma radiation. Think about it."
aside from Vlad the Impaler I'm pretty sure sunlight does not kill anyone / seem that some people are not getting enough of it / can you say 'seasonal affected disorder? / i thought you could

Deedee_tv
01-02-2007, 09:00 PM
Wow, so much distrust of the sun, real and artificial.

I tan regularly, and it becomes addictive. The heightened moods are great, and I feel recharged every time I tan.

There is a growing consensus that the sun does not cause skin cancer. I believe it is the chemicals we ingest daily from processed foods, and absorb in the skin from lotions. What happens, is the sun brings body toxins to the skin. This increases the likelihood of getting skin cancer. Therefore, I take salt baths. The salts help the toxins leave the body.

I tan on a regular basis. My favorite bed has 44 – 160 watt lamps. It also has four 500 watt facial lamps. I sometimes use the standup tanner instead, which has 46 or 48 of the 160 watt lamps. I actually have better skin than when I started tanning. I attribute that to taking a salt bath after tanning. At 46 years, I have better skin than most in their 30's.

At least some sun, more than most of us get with clothes on, is needed by the body! I consider tanning, especially from the high pressure beds, safer than sunlight. There is more UVA and less UVB as a percentage than in sunlight. The UVB is believed to cause the burning and cancer. High pressure tanning beds have 3% or less of their spectra as UVB radiation.

Anyway, I tan al least twice a week in these off months. I use natural sunlight in the summer.

Believe as you all must. I will never believe the sun causes cancer No from my God. I believe it is the trigger to make the chemicals we take in to do the damage. I believe the combined tanning and salt baths will keep me from getting cancer! Ever hear of an avid surfer getting skin cancer? Eat more natural. Buy less canned boxed and processed foods. Get vegetables and fruits from farmers markets. I really believe cancer is caused by the unnatural chemicals we are exposed to regularly, not from God's creations!

Those of you using artificial tanning creams.... I hope you know what you're doing.... I would suggest you have a greater chance of developing skin cancer than I do!

I do not generally get too upset with posts anywhere however, my wife has been battling malignant melanoma for the last two years as a direct result of her ignorance of warnings against proper sun protection while "laying out" and using tanning beds. There is no "consensus" that "the sun does not cause skin cancer". Are you freakin' kidding me???? That's as stupid as saying that cigarettes do not cause cancer.

I suggest you keep up what you are doing, ignore warnings then talk to us all again after you have all of the lymph nodes removed in your legs and endure a year of Interferon treatments. I think you may find yourself in different state of mind.

The threat of sun exposure is real and is not more deadly than that of sunscreens and self-tanning creams.

Spend a few months at a cancer clinic with a loved one like I have done and you will realize that your understanding is shallow and potentially deadly.

Deedee_tv

janedoe311
01-03-2007, 12:49 PM
The truth behind the tan
Tanned skin may look fabulous on the outside, but the inside is a different story. “Tanned skin is skin that has enough nuclear injury to stimulate release of melanin from melanocytes,” Plank says. “This brown pigment is deposited over the nuclei of the skin cells to protect them from further injury. Tanned skin is injured skin.”

From http://www.midlandpower.com/aspx/News/Default.aspx?NewsID=609

Some facts. Sun screen use went up and so did Skin cancer. Is the sun screen causing the cancer or is it because people feel "safe" and get too much sun.

Tanned skin is being damaged. Nothing good about that.

Rachel Newark
01-03-2007, 01:39 PM
I think I've picked up the so called "Spanish" Gene from my father, show him a picture of the sun and he goes a shade darker. I tan easily and generally feel better for the Vitamin D it generates. I don't allow myself to burn. I've still got tan lines from wandering around in shorts this summer. And it does look good against pale undies ! However I used to have a GF who did the whole 'frying tonight' thing and her skin showed definite signs of damage, and some dodgy moles which her doctor chopped out.. not good.

Rachel Newark

suzy
01-03-2007, 01:42 PM
I haven't enjoyed the tanning sensation yet, but I will. I have bought some swim suits and I can't wait for summer to get here so I can lay out in the sun, in my swim suit and get some sexy tan lines!:D

shik_lok_
01-03-2007, 03:54 PM
I haven't enjoyed the tanning sensation yet, but I will. I have bought some swim suits and I can't wait for summer to get here so I can lay out in the sun, in my swim suit and get some sexy tan lines!:D

hehehe, GG fight to not get tan lines, but we sure would apresiatte them

Katrina CD
01-03-2007, 04:17 PM
My wife and I tanned last winter so we wouldn't burn when we went on vacation in early summer. The warm tanning bed feels great on a cold night. I loved tanning. It made me feel more like a girl. I opted to go for the no-line tan. I agree it does look good with anything.
As for the skin damage... I grew up on a farm and was outside all day durring the summer and my skin is fine, and so are my parents. But, there is no history of skin cancer in our family. I just wanted to get a tan, not turn to leather.
BTW, we did use sunscreen when we went to Six Flags for the day. Just a tip, Don't forget the thin spot on top of your head! It tends to hurt.

Later,
Katrina.

Lissa Stevens
01-03-2007, 04:25 PM
I used to worry about cancer and avoided tanning. The area I live in seems to have an abnormally large amount of every kind of cancer there is. This used to be a major industrial area and most of them dumped a lot of bad stuff before the EPA came along. I now have decided the heck with it and use a tanning bed starting in the spring thru Sept. I make sure and use a lot of moisturizer and don't tan long enough to burn. I also love the tanned look with my clothes. If I am playing russian roulette so be it. You can't live forever.

Felicity
01-03-2007, 11:39 PM
I do not generally get too upset with posts anywhere however, my wife has been battling malignant melanoma for the last two years as a direct result of her ignorance of warnings against proper sun protection while "laying out" and using tanning beds.

I'm sorry about your wife, but notice I said I believe the sun is a trigger, not the cause. Medications can affect the tanning process. I don't know if it is required nationwide, but in my state, notices are posted by the tanning beds of chemicals and foods that cause sensitivity to the tanning process. One that I readily remember, is celery!


There is no "consensus" that "the sun does not cause skin cancer". Are you freakin' kidding me???? That's as stupid as saying that cigarettes do not cause cancer.

The growing consensus is real. I never said it was overwhelming or anything like that. I guess you are a know it all, and know the facts for certain?

Please note my words. I said it was my belief, not fact! You however, are implying fact when you cannot possible know!

I suggest you keep up what you are doing, ignore warnings then talk to us all again after you have all of the lymph nodes removed in your legs and endure a year of Interferon treatments. I think you may find yourself in different state of mind.

I ignore warnings regularly, especially those based on incomplete statistics. I will enjoy life rather than have every little threat deter me from living a happy life. I am one that believes these processed foods and medicines are the killer, not nature. I rarely ever take man made drugs. I cleanse my body of toxins, the salt baths help.

Think about this likelihood. We ingest unnatural products daily and breath polluted air. Our bodies no not filter all these poisons. It doesn't take much to trigger them sometimes to cause a cancer. The sun brings these toxins to the skin. To much accumulated in the body, and the sun will likely cause cancer!


The threat of sun exposure is real and is not more deadly than that of sunscreens and self-tanning creams.

I challenge you to look up all the chemicals in a sunscreen. Review the appropriate MSDS (http://www.sciencelab.com/msdsList.php), and tell me they are all safe to use. The sun probably causes chemical reactions in the skin with these products, even if they are classified as safe!


Spend a few months at a cancer clinic with a loved one like I have done and you will realize that your understanding is shallow and potentially deadly.
I am just not convinced that natural things cause the cancer, except maybe in excess. The only correlation I know of in sun related cancer studies are those who have let themselves sunburn, have a greater risk of skin cancer. We do know much of the biochemistry the sun has on our bodies.

Fact: The sun converts the amino acid L-Thyrosine to melanin. This is the pigment we see as a tan. Melanin is also known to enhance ones mood.

Fact: low melanin levels in the body are being studied as possible precursors to Parkinson's Disease and Alzheimers.

Assumption: Tanning might prevent these?

Fact: The sun stimulates the liver to produce Vitamin D3. This happens after the UVB triggers a reaction with cholesterol in the blood.

Assumption: Tanning might naturally reduce cholesterol levels? Lack sufficient amounts of sunlight may contribute to cholesterol problems?

Fact: Proper tanning reduces the risk of sun related skin cancer as the darkening of the skin is a natural protection of the UV radiation.

Fact: Vitamin D malnutrition is linked to an increased susceptibility to several chronic diseases such as high blood pressure, tuberculosis, cancer, multiple sclerosis, chronic pain, depression, schizophrenia, seasonal affective disorder and several autoimmune diseases.

Fact: Research is concluding what I have mentioned as a "Growing Consensus". A few papers from one site:

The role of ultraviolet-B (UVB) radiation (290-315 nm) and vitamin D in reducing the risk of cancer* (http://www.sunarc.org/cancernadvitd.htm)

Ultraviolet radiation and dietary links to melanoma; or why one should not be dissuaded from enjoying the Sun for optimal health (http://www.sunarc.org/406-SUNARC-melanoma%20essay.doc)

Ultraviolet B (UVB) radiation and vitamin D are important risk reduction factors for multiple sclerosis; viral infections are an important risk factor; dietary fat is a minor risk factor (http://www.sunarc.org/ms.htm)

janedoe311
01-05-2007, 06:07 PM
I burn. I have light skin and so do my kids. We purchased Australian UV swim suits for the whole family and use sun screen only on the exposed parts, feet, hands and face. I do not like sunscreens, I have sensitive skin and everything bothers it. I and my kids are allergic to Aloe Vera which is in nearly every skin product!

I have been a vegetarian and a "health Food" nut for 30 years so I eat health chemical free.

You religious are amazing. Ignoring the science that does not conform to the Bible and having the gall to quote minority science studies that you agree with.

Good luck, hope you are not one of those that is not prone to skin disease because hereditary is a proven factor in Skin Cancer.

PS, The sun screen industry has a lot going on people sun bathing. If everyone wore Australian UV swim suits then they would go out of business as would the Tanning booths and all the compaines that make Bikinis. They do not want people to think sunning is bad. This is way to much money in it!

Remember, even the tobacco companies got doctors and scientists to side with them. It is all about money.

PPS One other point, another not published finding. People in the tropics of South America are getting skin cancer at a very height rate. Why because right above them is the hole in the Ozone. Exposing them to a higher about of UV than normal. Oh yes it is from God so it can not hurt.

ColleenCD
01-05-2007, 07:19 PM
Guilty as charged. I do tan about 2 times a week.

Colleen

Sugar01
02-07-2007, 09:15 AM
I go for the effect (sunless) for the cute bra/thong lines, and I'm glad the kind in a bottle fades quickly.

That's SO interesting. I was really wanting to achieve a similar result. I mean what's more femme than seeing the outline of a bra when you remove your clothes? I just didn't want to risk it with a regular tan. Now you've given me a great idea.

When you say 'fades", how long does it last?

JeanneF
02-07-2007, 11:50 AM
I'm another pale redhead of Irish descent, so I don't tan, I burn.

I do "Fake n' Bake" spray-on tan at the local tanning salon to get color during the summer, but I kind of look a little like George Hamilton...kind of an orangeish tint to the tan. I've been told it looks good with my (boy) hair color though.

janedoe311
02-07-2007, 12:33 PM
I'm another pale redhead of Irish descent, so I don't tan, I burn.

I do "Fake n' Bake" spray-on tan at the local tanning salon to get color during the summer, but I kind of look a little like George Hamilton...kind of an orangeish tint to the tan. I've been told it looks good with my (boy) hair color though.

Have no need to be Brown I like the pale look. Remember Snow White, skin white of snow. That was the look of class and Royalty because they stayed out of the sun. I know a women that sunbathed and now looks like a prune, a very wrinkled prune and she is SORRY she sunbathed in her 20's.

So you want to age and damage your skin KEEP SUNBATHING.

Angie G
02-07-2007, 12:53 PM
No it's not good for the skin :hugs:
Angie

lissetta
02-07-2007, 02:18 PM
I do that every three wks in winter..i like it.

Felicity
02-07-2007, 04:05 PM
I have to disagree with those of you who say the sun is bad for the skin. Moderation is the key. Too much of anything is harmful. Even drinking too much water can kill you.

The sun, whether you get enough to bring out tan or not, is important for the proper metabolic functions of the body. The ultraviolet triggers healthy responses.

Again, moderation. Don't let yourself burn.

I saw a study someplace where people who tan do in fact have a higher rate of skin cancer. I think it was something like 20% greater. However, these same people had something like 80% less cases of other types of cancer! Don't focus on just the cons of an argument. The pros are also something to consider.

Sierra Evon
02-07-2007, 04:09 PM
my apt complex has a tanning bed , folks use it & alot of young gals too , but I have my resevations about fake & bakes !!!!!!!!

Kelly Greene
02-07-2007, 08:21 PM
I can't tan I am a natural Red Head I have freckles, but other that that my skin is either white or red.

I wish i could tan

Miss Petra
02-07-2007, 10:55 PM
Ever hear of an avid surfer getting skin cancer?

OK know you have my claws out:Angry3:

That statement just reeks of ignorance. You must not surf because all surfers espcially the older ones know how dangerous exposure to the sun is.

I have seen surfer friends die from this horrible cancer which is very deadly.:(

I have had two malignant melanomas removed. :eek: One on my shoulder & one on my nose. Yes I lived at the beach for 25 years and surfed 3-4x a week. Never wore sunscreen for the first 10 years. You know that bronze surfer look with the red peeling nose & shoulders. Thought it looked cool.

Every avid surfer I know of who cares about themselves goes to the dermatologist 2x a year for a mold check. I did and that is what saved my life.

Yes the sun is good for us we would all die without it but surfers get huge doses of UV and make us high risk candidates.

This taken from http://www.nssia.org/Safety_Rules.html

Which is the National Surf Schools & Instructors Association (NSSIA)

SUN PROTECTION
Of all of the various skin cancers, melanoma is known to be the most deadly if not caught in its earliest phases. Approximately 53,000 will be diagnosed with melanoma and 7,800 will die this year from melanoma. Melanoma = 5% of all skin caners / 71% of all skin cancer deaths.

Skin cancer kills more surfers than drownings and is the #1 cause of death in surfers. The Skin Cancer Foundation recommends SPFs of at least 15, which block 93 percent of UVB rays. While SPFs higher than 30 block only 4 percent more UVB, they may be advisable for sun-sensitive individuals, skin cancer patients, and people at high risk of developing skin cancer. They also allow some margin for error if too little sunscreen is applied.

Rash guards with a high SPF rating also helps protects against cancer. They also help protect against rash caused by an allergic reaction to the use of certain types of surfboard wax, minimizes sliding around on surfboard from body oils, sunscreen or sunblock and for girls it helps keep their tops together.

What are other peoples thoughts who are outdoors Surfers, mountain bikers, runners, gardeners etc..

I encourage your comments:


Hugz,


Surfer Girl

Miss Petra

Glenda58
02-07-2007, 11:10 PM
I'd rather be white and not risk the skin cancer thing...

Karren

Karren you live underground you never see the sun. You'll get black lung.

Tanning salon for 10 minutes a week makes me think of summer.

Alice B
02-07-2007, 11:17 PM
I am lucky enough to live in S. Calif and also have my own pool. I try to get tan whenever possible, but also use some tanning creams to fill in when the weather is not right. I am older and have some sun damage that shows in my face, but make-up deals with that. This is beacuse I have spent my entire professional life in the sun. Having a tan makes me feel better and as far as i'm concerned look better. Especially on my legs, which are my best asset.

If you live in a cold region, where tans are not the norm, then do it slowly. A little at a time and other will not notice, but comment on how great you look.

RandiCD78209
02-08-2007, 01:42 AM
I've been tanning intensely for nearly three years. I lived close to the beach until this summer which got me hooked. However, w no beach close I've opted for a Tan Salon - good tan & more convenient (In & out in 25 minutes). I go 2-3 times/week. I wear bikini panties on the tanning bed & love the contrasting bikini tan lines - makes me feel even more fem.

tanya3
02-08-2007, 05:01 AM
i havn't been to a tanning salon in quite some time but hope to go again this year . i have tried the lotion tans and find that they look fake and run when you sweat . i am outdoors alot in the summer and tan as mush as i can , but no that my wife knows and accepts my dressing going out dressed this summer with tan lines is out of the question . moderation is the key .

janedoe311
02-08-2007, 01:37 PM
That statement just reeks of ignorance. You must not surf because all surfers espcially the older ones know how dangerous exposure to the sun is.

I have seen surfer friends die from this horrible cancer which is very deadly.:(

I have had two malignant melanomas removed. :eek: One on my shoulder & one on my nose. Yes I lived at the beach for 25 years and surfed 3-4x a week. Never wore sunscreen for the first 10 years. You know that bronze surfer look with the red peeling nose & shoulders. Thought it looked cool.

Every avid surfer I know of who cares about themselves goes to the dermatologist 2x a year for a mold check. I did and that is what saved my life.

Yes the sun is good for us we would all die without it but surfers get huge doses of UV and make us high risk candidates.

This taken from http://www.nssia.org/Safety_Rules.html

Which is the National Surf Schools & Instructors Association (NSSIA)

Miss Petra do not waste you anger or energy on Felicity. She is religious and will not believe any science only God. She will just say it is what you eat. You can get all the sun you want and if you eat right you will not get cancer.
So put your claws back and relax.

Sam-antha
02-08-2007, 03:50 PM
Being out (side) most of the time since my retiral I do tend to get and to stay brown.
Tanning salons are necessary to keep the standard where I want it. I use them maybe two or three times a month in winter for six or nine minute sessions, starting late November. Its enough for me.
Also, my face, I do not use the sun lamp face section, just the long body tubes.
My skin is just fine, smooth and except around my mouth, wrinkle free. Perhaps the fact that I shave with moisturising lotion helps that along and no aftershave skin tightener is necessary either.
Perfume or toilet water prefered.
As an extra, I notice that some girls use the tanner as a pick-me-up which it is. Especially on cold winter days.
The former can be duplicated by use of a SAD lamp, but the cold weather is for the tanner, a short three minute affair under the lamps. Somehow the street is not so cold and dark after a session. (I do suggest that you get out from the bed just before the lamps go out.)

Miss Petra
02-09-2007, 12:06 AM
Miss Petra do not waste you anger or energy on Felicity. She is religious and will not believe any science only God. She will just say it is what you eat. You can get all the sun you want and if you eat right you will not get cancer.
So put your claws back and relax.

The claws came out because this is a public forum & wanted everyone to make sure they understood that lots of avid surfers have died or have been diagnosed & survived skin cancer.

Felicity & everyone else is entitled to their opinions that is what makes this forum such a great place. But when a statement is made like that well it hardly is even worth replying to. Guess it was my time of the month boy I have been moody over the last couple of days...Wait I know where is my Feb edition of In-Style Magazine it never came...That would make any girl grouchy.

Thanks for your concern Jane... Claws are retracted and I am starting to purr.


Hugz,

Petra

Felicity
02-09-2007, 04:48 AM
OK know you have my claws out:Angry3:

That statement just reeks of ignorance. You must not surf because all surfers espcially the older ones know how dangerous exposure to the sun is.

I have seen surfer friends die from this horrible cancer which is very deadly.:(

I have had two malignant melanomas removed. :eek: One on my shoulder & one on my nose. Yes I lived at the beach for 25 years and surfed 3-4x a week. Never wore sunscreen for the first 10 years. You know that bronze surfer look with the red peeling nose & shoulders. Thought it looked cool.

Not ignorance. I just didn't clarify my statement well. The ignorance lies with those who get too much sun. In almost any sport, you risk injury or death if you fail to follow safety guidelines. If you allow yourself to get burned, you just became a probable statistic for skin cancer. My only ignorance was assuming people treat anything they are doing long enough to be skilled at, i.e. avid, to take the proper precautions. I'm sorry I didn't clarify. I have stated in nearly all my posts dealing with tanning some kind of moderation.



Miss Petra do not waste you anger or energy on Felicity. She is religious and will not believe any science only God. She will just say it is what you eat.
What? I would sure like to know how that was extrapolated. I made a statement basically about not believing God would make the elements dangerous to us. I said that tongue in cheek.

I'll make you wonder though. I do not believe in religion in any traditional sense. I believe in the Bible as fact along with many other religious writings. I have no doubt in the trinity as body soul and mind. I have had profound spiritual and psychic experiences. This is a different subject and thread however. Do a search in the religious forum. At least a year back, I stated some of my views.

If you wish to discuss such a topic, start a thread in the religious forum and private message me to respond in it. I don't read most the stuff there these days and may miss such a thread.

You can get all the sun you want and if you eat right you will not get cancer.
So put your claws back and relax.
I don't recall ever saying anything close to that. Can you show me where?

Suzie S.
02-09-2007, 05:20 AM
Wife and I love getting a good tan. We hang out at our pool all summer, and in the winter we always take a trip to the Caribbean to hit the beaches and relax. I'm and outdoor type person, and work outdoors also, so it's all natural for me. I couldn't see spending money on something I can get 4 free! Besides, the money for a tanning salon would be better spent on a good sunblock.

Getting tan lines from a pretty swimsuit is no option for me. My wife would throttle me, LOL! :heehee:

Marcie Sexton
02-09-2007, 06:46 AM
I just got to tan, usually it while I'm doing the man things, cutting grass, trimming, among other things...

Last summer I went a bit further though, I wore a pair of bikini panties and ended up with tan lines...Now my wife has bought me a bikini and wants to see some real tan lines...and for those na sayers...my wife tells me that a lotion with a good spf will provide you good protection when tanning in moderation...Like all things when done in "moderation" tanning can actually be beneficial to you...:2c:

janedoe311
02-09-2007, 12:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by janedoe311 View Post
You can get all the sun you want and if you eat right you will not get cancer.
So put your claws back and relax.

I don't recall ever saying anything close to that. Can you show me where?

Right here. "I will never believe the sun causes cancer No from my God." And "Eat more natural." Very clear for me what your point was. Sun does not cause cancer diet does.

If it is not what you meant I jumped to conclusions and would like to be clarified.




Believe as you all must. I will never believe the sun causes cancer No from my God. I believe it is the trigger to make the chemicals we take in to do the damage. I believe the combined tanning and salt baths will keep me from getting cancer! Ever hear of an avid surfer getting skin cancer?

Eat more natural. Buy less canned boxed and processed foods. Get vegetables and fruits from farmers markets. I really believe cancer is caused by the unnatural chemicals we are exposed to regularly, not from God's creations!


Arsenic, mercury asbestos are natural (God's creations) and are in your food, granted they most likely come from mans waste, except for asbestos which is natural from rocks (serpentine). (Where I live there are abandoned mercury mines, mercury is in the water and fish, from the mines and Natural.) But then there is chlorine and chloramines in water and fluoride which was just listed as a carcinogen (chlorine is a carcinogen) and causes osteoporosis and is deadly to kids hence the warning on fluoride tooth paste now.

PS I have been a vegetarian and "health food nut" for 30 years I drink filtered water, and avoid all artificial food additives, GMF and buy organic when I can. But I am not so arrogant as to think that I am immune to cancer because I avoid so called "unnatural chemicals".
Too much sun kills that is a fact. For some of us "too much" is normal exposer.

I will say again I do not tan I burn! Some sun is good for you, yes but deliberate tanning is not. Tanning is damaging your skin, Damage is not good for you.

marie354
02-09-2007, 12:33 PM
Jane, it looks like she was taking clips from your earlier post saying not to believe what someone else had said about eating properly to avoid sun burn.

I think most of know that the sun can cause damage to the skin. Every summer you hear the warnings on TV and radio about using plenty of sun block.

I have also heard that african-americans have a build-it SPF factor. I heard this on Oprah.
So there are some that don't have to worry a lot, but I know plenty of Afro-Am's that always use sun-block, so it surely doesn't apply to all.
:hugs:

Trina82
02-09-2007, 09:35 PM
Here lately, I've been considering at least going outside in just panties and a bra for an hour. If my family wasn't so closed-minded about it I would have done it already. Like others have said though, it would be hard to explain a bra tan line. :D

Felicity
02-10-2007, 02:55 AM
You know Jane, I explained my statements. You still twist my words. Earlier you stated I said "You can get all the sun you want and if you eat right you will not get cancer." The way you said this change the context of my words. I never, anywhere, implied "all the sun you want." Your last posting is your own misinterpretation of my words. Like I said in my past posting, I could have been more concise with my words. However, that does not give you the right to tell people I said something I didn't! After stating I said the God thing, 'tongue in cheek' you argue the religious aspect again.

Felicity
02-14-2007, 03:15 AM
I would suggest anyone wanting to enjoy four or more hours outdoors when the summer comes to start tanning in a tanning salon no later six weeks before you want to start spending more than an hour outside. I tan all year round just for the health benefits and mood changes. Like anything, do in moderation. Tanning salons usually know how to start a first time tanner in moderation, and how to build up the time and exposure limits. If the place you go doesn't seen to know, or doesn't stress moderation, then... Run... Go to another place more reputable.

I was taken out of context before. Excess exposure to the sun will damage your skin and possible cause cancer. Building a tan up before summer starts will decrease your possibility of getting sunburns. Statistically, you will only get skin cancer if you allow yourself to get sunburned. Building up a tan allows you to increase your fun time out in the sun.

Personally, I think a proper tan looks healthy. Some people do it in excess and have rather terrible looking skin. Again, moderation is the key. I personally don't like tan lines. I just like some color other than pasty white. Besides, a healthy tan looks far better for legs than the nylons at close up views!

Shop around. You should be able to buy a tanning package for under $2.00 a tan. With regular beds, start at maybe 8 minutes and work up to 20 minutes a session. Personally, I prefer the High Pressure beds that in my state are not allowed to have over 10-13 minutes, depending on the bed! God... They feel good!

janedoe311
02-14-2007, 06:13 PM
You know Jane, I explained my statements. You still twist my words. Earlier you stated I said "You can get all the sun you want and if you eat right you will not get cancer." The way you said this change the context of my words. I never, anywhere, implied "all the sun you want." Your last posting is your own misinterpretation of my words. Like I said in my past posting, I could have been more concise with my words. However, that does not give you the right to tell people I said something I didn't! After stating I said the God thing, 'tongue in cheek' you argue the religious aspect again.

"I will never believe the sun causes cancer No from my God." you did not say overexposing to sun just sun. Then you blamed cancer on what you eat". So what else could I think? I put them together. I am a electronics technician and have to put "unrelated" things together all day.

I do not see that as twisting your statements. Maybe you did not say everything you meant but I had only that statement to work with.

Sorry for jumping to conclusions.

sissystephanie
02-15-2007, 12:49 PM
Those who say, "I am a redhead, and never tan, I just burn," have not received the proper advice. I am of partly Irish descent, and was a real carrot top when younger (and still had hair!). And boy did I sunburn! But I learned that ANYONE can tan, if you are willing to take the time to do it properly. That does not mean just laying out in the sun for hours. Slow but sure will get the job done! Or using a Tanning Salon as I do, for maybe 10 minutes. Any good dermatologist will tell you that tanning, if done properly, is not harmful. As others have already stated, your body needs sunlight. Just do it carefully.

Sissy

More Girl than man

tall sam
02-15-2007, 01:31 PM
When I get the chance I love to tan. Last summer we were on a fairly remite beach and I borrowed my wifes g-string bikini bottoms and managed to get a bit of a burn (where the sun usually dont shine). Anyway, the tan lines has lasted for ages and there is still a faint hint. When it was clearer it really looked and felt very fem and very sexy. It also looks much better having a tanned rear when wearing g-strings. The white cheeks just dont look right.

go for it girls!