Someoenes gotta ask...

[azure]

I was thinking the other day(in case you were wondering what that odd noise was), if medical science had investigated the possibilty of transplanting female sex organs into a MTF patient. I feel odd asking, I dont know why, I think its the implications and ethics of such a procedure. I think I read that there was an attempt to transplant ovaries and that it hadnt worked in any of the operations. How would you feel if doctors said that rather than the procedure of gender reasignment we know at the moment, you would be given a sex organs of a woman who had pased away. It is a very immotive issue to say the least, and I wanted to gauge peoples feelings on the question.

[rocval2001]

Interesting question - I am not a doctor but I play one on line. I would think that besides the fact that you have make sure it is compatable but how do you make the transport work ? can you rewire a formally male body to make it function properly ? Ethically I personally would not have a problem with it. Good question though.

[Billie2day]

Why import used parts when you have the makins there. The job they do today in gender reasignment is fantastic. why do you need overies I don't think you want to get pregnent The hormones are readly availabe.Itis not going to change you too much phisicaly that too can be done with the existing material by any compedent plastic surgion. The amount of pain and recovery would be much greater and you would have to take anti rejection drugs for the rest of you life. Your decision your Life Billie

[Marla S]

I agree with Billie.
Transplantation could be interesting for FTMs as there seems to be not a comparable good SRS-method for them.
But it would be a visible transplant, which could cause serious mental problems for some. Just think of the man that got new hands, but had them removed again after a while, because he couldn't stand to see foreign hands attached to his body.

[rocval2001]

Good point Marla - am FTM with a real working responsive penis would be great for them.

[Lisa Maren]

Billie makes an awfully good point.

There is some part of me that envies the bond only a mother can have with her children, but... even with such an interest that doesn't mean that the rest of my genetically male body would know what to do when it gets pregnant. Actually, depending on exactly what would happen, it might prove dangerous or fatal to a fetus anyhow.

Billie's right to bring up anti-rejection drugs for multiple reasons. Those drugs work by suppressing your immune system and so... I'm not sure if the implantation of female organs is the best thing to do when, as already said, the makings are already present without suppressing my immune system.

Hugs,
Lisa

[eleventhdr]

What I would want to be able to do is just use female hormones and take them directly from a real female and injuect them into a mlae and see if they would then be able to transform the male in a female by injection that would be a far more direct and useful mean's of gender change as you would not have to go the Frankinstein way hmmm.

Nayone thinking ablut this method.

it just might work because then the mlae would revert back into his or her original sex that he or she might have strated out as which we al do know by now that we all start out female anyway and to become male takes more to do so so why not just reversse it just like this.

Oh well

Suzy!

[Marcie Sexton]

mmmm...interesting...there are some really ethical questions there... but I would not touch them with a ten foot pole...

...seeing how I am pro choice, all for stem cell research, why not organ transplants...although over simplified, what is the real difference is there from that to heart, lung, kidney, or any other transplant procedure...although some would say that those I mentioned are life saving, it still comes down to a simple question...do you want too...ones view of life saving procedures may vary according to the perception of that particular person involved...

[Robin Leigh]

There are rumours about early German TS experiments that involved transplanting "monkey glands", but the Nazis destroyed the research centre & its data.

There was a recent thread relevant to this topic on the "Body Issues" board: NYC Docter transplants Uterus,can ts pregnany be far off? (http://www.crossdressers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=44401)

The idea of transplanted sex organs, etc, gives me the creeps. But if they were grown in a lab from my own stem cells, that would be ok.


we al do know by now that we all start out female anywayNot really, Suzy. It's fair to consider the female the basic model and the male a minor variation of the theme, but really we all start out as neuter. Gonad tissue is undifferentiated until the sex hormones start to work on it. This usually happens fairly early in the development of the embryo.

Robin

Robin

[Stephenie S]

The problems inherent in this sort of medical procedure are so numerous as to place this idea in the wildly absurd. This happens in science fiction and fantasy and I'm afraid it will remain there.

We have the ability to do excellent M2F SRS right now. No need to manufacture more problems. F2M SRS is much more problematic. We do need much more research there. Unfortunately, there just aren't that many F2M surgeries. Partly because of the problems involved and partly because it may be easier for F2M to "pass" without SRS.

Steph

[janedoe311]

I woman got her mothers. Do not remember the reasons, but seem to be about hers were not all there and she wanted kids.


Will look it up. here is it for all it is worth, probally fake.
http://www.world-sex-records.com/sex-014.htm

That site is fun just look at it.

But for a man, no transplants are risky to say the least. Used only if one will die without. You have to take a anti rejection drug for the rest of your life. It is realy a anti immune system drug.

So wait till they can grow spare parts which they have done in animals.

[Trinni]

It is an interesting question and I am not trying to be a koll joy, but if they could implant female organs for child birth, you would also have to do some work on the hips. I don't believe the hips on a male could open up like a females to allow the baby to exit. I very well could be wrong, and I guess a C-Section could be an option.

[Kristina_Maree]

I have always wondered about the transplants they already do, like heart, lungs etc. If your genetically male and you get an organ from a female, does that pose any more of a problem, than if you got it from a male? I mean, the new organ would have XX chromosomes.

Kristina

[Kate Simmons]

This is the only way I would ever consider SRS. All or nothing for me. That's just the way I feel. I have very strong maternal instincts.:happy:

[nibel]

Ovarian trasplants could be useful to reduce collateral effects of hormones, like damage of hepatic function or thrombosys. Also, would be very interesting if there were a technique to transplant Bartholin's gland, since it's responsible for vaginal lubrication, which the operated transexual lacks and always depends on external lubrication.

[Shellybean]

That was awsome i love it
hugz
michelle

[Colleentg]

I've always fantasized about being capable of bearing children, not for the sex to make them. If such a procedure were possible, count me in! If you've ever loved holding a newborn, like I do. it's priceless. A new life, a new human being, right there in your arms.

[princessmichelle]

Of course I day dream, but the reality.... :(

Do stem cells hold out any hope in this regard for the future?

princess Michelle