In our heads

[noname]

Much like others have said, people are more accepting than we think. Like my experience today.

Today, I went to buy some makeup, the lady that did my make up choose a really bright almost neon color, and toned it down with a black. Halfway through she excused her self as the store was getting busy and she needed to ring a couple of people up. While sitting there these two girls about 18 - 22ish see the colors, and she exclaims how much she likes that color. Is that the color on you? Close your eyes, let me see, she says. Yeah, I like, that looks good. A couple minutes later, other girl in her early 20's points to a different color and says, I have that color and love it, it's one of my favorites. So, I leave the place and stop at the book store on the way home, while I'm being rung up the girl at the counter tells me how much she liked my makeup and how it really brings out my eye colors. I had one person give me some odd looks.

So, I got 3 compliments and 1 odd look. So who is to blame for us guys not being able to wear what we want? You know, after today, I really can't blame the GG's. While many of them act in a way that is a scourge to many of us, I've found them to be more accepting than men, and in some cases probably more than we are of ourselves. So who is to blame, our own fear? Fear of rejection? Fear of ridicule? Fear of isolation? Are men to blame? Do they ridicule to hide their Fears? Fear out of who they might be? Fear of self examination?

Food for thought, feedback would be appreciated.

[kassi]

my husband has only told me. he wouldn't dare tell any of his guy friends for what they might say or do, but i on the other hand have told 3 of my girl friends and all of them not only accept it but they want to help with make up and clothes. and i had one tell me today that she would love to go to the clubs with us. it's freakin awsome. i think mostly what it is though is people in genaral are ignorant and want to keep themselves that way. i think it's awsome that you can go out and get a 3-1 reaction. kudos to you:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[Tasha Meredith]

Millennial GGs especially seem to have a very strong appreciation for mitigating the old gender roles. The women's groups I work with are quite accepting of FTMs. It really blew me away. I suppose we are both groups tired of having our wings clipped by genetics and physical appearance. The men I've met tend to less cooperative and see it as sort of a rejection of "manly duty." De facto sexism is still a motivator as well and a lot of guys I've known to ridicule TG saw their activities as a sign of weakness. Not that there aren't plenty of exceptions to speak of.

So yeah, to echo noname and kassi, I would come out to a GG way before a non-GBT guy. I don't blame anyone - we're all human. But there's something about the way GGs tend to react that makes me find them more amicable. That's why I admire them. Awesome thread! I'm eager to hear from the GGs on this one...

[susie evans]

i have never had any problem with my hobby/sport/alternite way of dressing i think we are to hard on our selfs :hugs:

susie

[Nigella]

i have never had any problem with my hobby/sport/alternite way of dressing i think we are to hard on our selfs :hugs:

susie

Yes Susie you are right, we are harder on ourselves than we need to be. I came out at work 2 years ago, and got the expected reaction

GGs - some were accepting straight away, some indifferent and some dead against.

GMs - some indifferent, the majority dead against

I left there last week after 12 years, 10 as Nigel and 2 as Nigella and very little changed, with a minor exception, most GMs treated me with indifference. They had got used to me, saw I was the same for the last 2 years as I was for the previous 10 and just got on with it.

Remember the only fear we have is our own, if you can beat your own fears you are 99.9% of the way of stepping out the door to meet the world.

[Sierra Evon]

My opinion , is i think that society at large is to blame for the way , ppl are treated and viewed , I find most GG's to be very supportive and understanding , to the CDers , TG, TS , T-girls , just go out out do your thang , and damn the torpedo's !!!!!!!!, all ahead full, rigg for depth charge , sound fire drill, !!!!!!!!!!:thumbsup:

[Penny]

I find most GG's to be accepting if not helpful. I believe this is because they understand the need to feel feminine/pretty. Most Gm's can't comprehend because they do not have that need. The GG's who are not accepting, either don't have the need or refuse to believe that a GM can.:2c:

:hugs:

[MJ]

i was out at shoppers getting my makeup and i must say nothing bad has happened every time i go in the girls are happy to see me, even the SA are nice to me , and i have always said your fear is what holds you back, and no name you are right it's all in our heads...just do it . get out there and be yourself ..
hugs

[Glenda58]

Most GG's accept us I feel most don't see us as a thread to them. They don't feel like we will be hitting on them went we are dressed. So they are more open to us. Men on the other hand see us as a thread to their manhood. If more of us came out how would they tell who was who because some of us do pass and they can't tell.
Glad you had a good outing those are the things we gurls need to hear so those of us who are on the fence about going out can see that there are good times to be had.

[lisajane]

Get dressed and go out, whats the worst that can happen? you get laughed at Lisa