Guys want to meet, for erotic play.

[Alice Torn]

I have never, ever met any guy, in guy, or dresses as a lady, but due to my getting on some personal ads, I have had quite a bit of response, and many, obviously just want sexual relationship. One guy, who lives near me, bisexual, really seems fairly decent, and, I am considering meeting him, but very cautious, yet. I am not attracted to men, only women, and that is one reason I dress, plus, I have not seen one gg this whole week, in a dress, or skirt-100% pants! I must admit, that when I am dolled up, I have a fantasy about men, but, have never felt good, about the idea of a guy, kissing me, and having his hands, and another part all over me. Any one else had similar dilemna?

[RobertaFermina]

I've been getting the 'soft sell' from some of the men at one of the gay bars I go to. Interesting, yet I am not looking for this, and don't feel hungry for it. Intrigued....yes!

Kind of in a Limbo with the possibility.

Thank Heavens I have too much going on to permit or pursue this fantasy.

:rose: Roberta :rose:

[Jenna1561]

First to answer your last question, simple fantasies, yes, but am not considering it in real life.

Second - BE SAFE and be sure it's what YOU want to do.

Third - If you're not attracted to men, then why are you considering this?

Fourth - If you know that he wants a sexual relationship and you know that you don't, then I'd say you're teasing and leading him on. Not a good position to be when you are so vulnerable. SO, BE CAREFUL.

BTW, I don't know, but I am assuming you are unattached.


Jenna

[Brianna Lovely]

It depends on what you are looking for.

Although I find myself more attracted to men, when I'm enfemme, it's a really big step, to go to bed with someone.

I would much rather have one man who loved and accepted me for who I am, than ten sexual flings.

Please be careful with any decision you may make.

[karynspanties]

I have to admit, I have had sex with men while dressed enfemme. Actually, that's the only time I do have sex with a man. If your considering it, you are definately bi-curious. Just be careful, use condoms. I have a friend that I see on a regular basis. We grew up together and he has known about Karyn since childhood. We love each other very much. Best friends for over 35 years.

[Alice460]

It is a big step to meet someone. There is someone in my area that wants to meet and I have the same reservations as you. I have been open and honest with them and she agrees with my feelings.

I agree that kissing would be difficult, but it would be nice to be with another cd.

You must consider that there will be some physical contact if you meet and it you have no attraction, then I do not see it ending well.

I told her that it would be nice to go on a shopping trip as a first step. You might consider something like this.

[Alice Torn]

I have not had sex with a guy, ever. I don't wnat to do heavy kissing, or sex, but, when I am dressed, have had fantasies, about being a lady, with a guy, but not going all the way. Caution is the best rule, I , take it.

[Robin Leigh]

I have not had sex with a guy, ever. I don't wnat to do heavy kissing, or sex, but, when I am dressed, have had fantasies, about being a lady, with a guy, but not going all the way. Caution is the best rule, I , take it.In that case, I advise that you do not meet up with this guy. It won't be fair on him, and you won't be comfortable being with a guy that's got the hots for you. Flirting can be fun, but nobody likes a tease.

:hugs:

Robin

[finacarina]

Lucille, all things considering if I was you I would resist the temptation.

[amanda barber]

Why not start with dinner and a movie? If you can sit, eat, have a drink, maybe hold hands with a man in semi romantic situation, you might be able or even want to go farther, but If this situation Squicks you, you'll know that anything more will be much worse and the whole thing is deffinatly not for you.

If it doesn't feel right, split the bill and go your seperate ways. Maybe even be upfront about it with him from the get-go "I'm not sure about this it might never go to the bedroom or even a second lunch".

Some guys want you in bed, some really do just want to go out. Its easier on Opening night to find 2 movie seats (1 for him and one for the TV in a dress) than it is to find 3 (his, yours and the "were not gay its for the coats between us seat")

[tvbeckytv]

really sounds to me this is something you should keep as a fantasy. Thats the thing with fantasy, its supposed just to be naughty thoughts that excite you...no where does it say you need to actually act them out.
As somebody who is exclusively into men, and has met many over the years, it is cetainly true that the vast majority of them are after sex. thats not to say all any of them want is one night of passion, but they do want to meet you to be intimate with you.
keep it as a fantasy girl.

[shoegirl]

I you want to thats cool, just be very safe and make sure to get to know the person (atleast as much as you can) before you actually meet.

[MsJanessa]

I'm bi-sexual and have had many dates with guys---I enjoy taking an active dominant role and prefer a certain type of guy---feminine, even a sissy so to speak--also like other cds and women and have had relationships\(as opposed to just dates) with both. Having said that, if you don't really like the idea of a man kissing and fondleing you than you shouldn't arrange dates with them because that's exactly what they will want to do, unless of course they are submissive and you dominant then you can tell them what you want---but they will want to have sexual contact one way or the other, either as a sub or a dom---either way if the idea is a turn off for you then don't set dates with the guys. At best you will disappoint them and at worst it could get dangerous for you. I sense from your post that you are asking whether or not having fantasies about guys means you are attracted to them. Darling that is a question only you can answer---good luck

[Kate Simmons]

I think you neeed to get your own thoughts and feelings clear on this Lucille. Like Robin said, you can't play the "game" and just be teasing. Things may not wind up too well. I have some fun sometimes but we both know up front what the limits are.:happy:

[jo_ann]

be VERY careful.. particularly with STD's. A lot of people don't know (including me) how tranferrable and dangerous Gonorrhea is.
http://www.cdc.gov/std/Gonorrhea/default.htm

I have a friend who's married that is testing the waters with being bi, and since he's not being terribly selective, he thinks he may have it (which never fully goes away). Just because someone tells you they are disease free doesn't mean they're being truthful.

[cindychan]

I wouldn't and I don't think you should either.

[michellebesweet]

I agree with alot of the girls here, you need to be careful. There are alot of nuts out there, you don't who you are dealing with. If you want to be careful talk awhile with him and even speak on the phone if you plan on having any type of relationship, expecially a sexual relationship with him. Don't pretend to be someone you are not on-line, that could be very dangerous.

[Alice Torn]

I thank you all, for your input. I have e-mailed this fellow, and really have him starting to share now, and have a pic, of him. And, I have really set limits, to what I would allow, and strongly wrote, that some things I will not partake in. I am very cautious, and really letting him know. I have made NO date. The post, about meeting for some activity, movie, etc, made sense. I would not want sex, with ANYONE, on a first date, even Sophia Loren.

[CDTiffany]

You need to really, STOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and think about it!!!
There is a big difference between, being a CD & and a Bottom!!! I know you girls, know what I mean!!!!!
MMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!, I Luv It! HEEL's in the Air, pushed back.
Taking time to please your man.
CD and Sex is 2 different worlds!!!!
What world are you from?
Choose Smart!!!!

XOXO Tiffany

[amanda barber]

I thank you all, for your input. I have e-mailed this fellow, and really have him starting to share now, and have a pic, of him.

get a another pic. If he can send you one, he can send you another one. Holding his city newspaper or holding a pepsi can. anything thats specific and not likely to be from a pic set somewhere :)


good luck.

[Marcie Sexton]

Let me begin by asking, How would you like it if you were treated the same way...teased...

I'm sure a lot of us have wondered what it would be like to be ask out. I would also suggest that although we wonder, the majority of us would pass on the idea...

I would suggest you err on the side of caution...

[shoegirl]

Why do I sense that there is alot of negitivity towards being gay and crossdressing here. Yes there might be many who love to dress like a woman but are totally straight but its not always that way. There is nothing wrong with being gay and just because there are others that have sex with men when they are dressed does not effect you.

Yes be safe thats the most important but if you like to cross dress but have not interest in guys don't do anything but if you are Bi or gay do whatever you want.

[Billie1]

You seem to be walking a fine line here. The question you have to ask yourself is what do you think the odds are that you will meet someone that has exactly the same expectations of involvement that you? I can understand your interest in exploring this next level, but when it comes to inter-personal relationships, you must realize that a lot of factors will be beyond your control. I would say that the caveat here is, don't let it get to, (or past) that point. Take care.

[Michelia]

You say you have a fantasy with men. But you do not sound like you want physical contact. I think many of us have this dilemma from time to time.

There is nothing wrong with exploring. And meeting somone through the internet is no different than any other way, if you follow a certain progression. Hell, I met my SO online.

I found out a long time ago men were not for me. Sometimes you have to try to know. Just be honest. Make it clear you are not to be pushed beyond your comfort unless you want it.

If what you are having is a strictly sexual fantasy "heels in the air" then fulfill that. You do not have to kiss anyone for that. In my case, I have fulfilled that fantasy with my GG SO and it suffices.

It goes without saying the rest is common sense. Safety is a concern whether you meet online or not. STD's are a fact of life whether you are seeing a gg or a guy or anyone in between. Enough has been said about this.

Michelia

[MsJanessa]

Why do I sense that there is alot of negitivity towards being gay and crossdressing here. Yes there might be many who love to dress like a woman but are totally straight but its not always that way. There is nothing wrong with being gay and just because there are others that have sex with men when they are dressed does not effect you.

Yes be safe thats the most important but if you like to cross dress but have not interest in guys don't do anything but if you are Bi or gay do whatever you want.

Couldn't have said it better Myself!!!

[willowgurl]

I gave in to my fantasies about Men, about 3 yrs ago. Have had several purely for sex encounters, ok but not great. Have had two guys wine and dine me and treat me like their girlfriend-Those were wonderfully fullfulling.

[Rachel Morley]

I have been hit on in real life but not by men, but by other T-girls (is that the same thing?). I'd say that, if by your own admission quote: "I have never felt good, about the idea of a guy, kissing me, and having his hands, and another part all over me." then why bother or take the risk?

[kristytv]

go ahead and do this if you feel your comfortable with it, i love having a man, its fun

[Alice Torn]

I have no desire to have anything other than friendship, with guys, in drab, but, when Lucille, I, like others, have desire to be treated like ladies, by the right type of guys. When Lucille, there are fantasies, of having a guy rub my legs, and feet, and dance. That may be all I would let a guy do, with Lucille, but, as one said, we can't control everything a person may try, or do.

[btmgrl6]

Hmmmmm. As has been said,common sense should be the order of the day. I only date men.....and am quite happy in doing so. Be up-front and honest.. This is what I am willing to do, and this is what I am not. if you want to meet him, do it in a public place.If you contact someone who is advertising for "erotic encounters"..that is what that person is going to expect. There are many sites on the net. Maybe you should be looking for "plutonic encounters" instead. I have a very good friend (male) who loves to take me out, but has no interest in me sexually.he treats me like a total woman. I suspect that this is what you might be looking for. he even holds my hand from time to time,or puts his arm around me if I am cold.

[GINA-CD]

I do fantasize also about men. I'm curious and I want to fulfill those fantasies, I'm positive about that. As someone said it... all I want is "heels in the air".

Kissing? maybe, if I'm attracted to the guy, his hands all over my body? maybe. but this is only a fantasy right now and real life might prove to be different.

Common sense and caution are the two main elements in this kind of relationship. Do I want a boyfriend? no, I just want the sex.

It's important to know what you really want and act accordingly.

I know what I want and I'll fulfill that fantasy someday. I'm sure about it.

[Lilly 40C]

Meet in a public place dressed enfemme and see how you feel afterwards. If he wants to kiss you when parting let him. Then you'll know.

[bobbicdsissy]

I always had a desire to meet another CD. I met someone locally on the internet and we arranged a meet. He was not really a CD, he put on his wife's panties and that was it. I was in panties, garterbelt, hose and heels. I was terrified. He was gentle, and kind.

We met several times and in the end I realized I did not want reciprocation. I wanted to please him. That was and is my fantasy when it comes to being with men. I want to give them pleasure. From my experiences with women, they also derive pleasure from giving pleasure.

My advice is the same as all here. Take it slow and easy. Not being attracted to men when in drab has nothing to do with your feminine urges when dressed.

There are no rules about how we are to be. None of us are 100% straight or gay. Some of course more one way or the other. I like to think of it as a sliding scale. I find women much more attractive than men but when I am in full femme mode, giving that man pleasure is the most feminine thing I could possibly do.

Forget about what you are and consider what you want. Let your feelings take you where they will but let your brain control what you will and won't do. The precautions need to be handled up front. Which you seem to have done. Because in the heat of the moment you may do something you never in a million years thought you would do. I know because it happened to me. I loved it and would do it again in a heartbeat.

bobbi

[RobertaFermina]

It is one thing to have a Fantasy in the safety of my own mind, and quite another to step through it in Real Life.

I also love the idea of being treated like a woman (in a *good* way). It would be a fulfillment of the CDing for me.

I see, however, different kinds of consorts:

1. Facilitator: someone who understands that this is *MY* Fantasy, and is selflessly dedicated to seeing it fulfilled. Nothing happens without my consent and request - no seduction or manipulation on his part.

2. Suitor: someone who is interested in me as a feminine companion and/or object. He has his own agenda and plans for personal gratification.


Any consort would be a combination of both types - we *are* human - however, I would choose a man who is predominantly a facilitator, and conscious of his "suitor", and competent to hold it in check.

The "dangerous" part of the fantasy is the feminine role - to yield and expand and manifest from the oceanic mind of the Mystery. That is not a role of *control*. There may be boundaries, yet they can fall when *it is just right* to let go.

I call it the dance-lead test. If I am dancing with a man and he pushes on my waist to guide me to the left, I normally notice the pressure on my waist, and think to myself "Ok, he wants me to move to the left, I will move to the left"

Then there is the feminine way of following - about the time I am moving to the left, I realize there is a slight pressure on my waist. Zero time for thinking and deciding about whether to follow.

My excitement and fear is that in surrendering the control in order to live the Fantasy takes me out of my normal guy-way of keeping boundaries: how do women do it?

Any how, that's what excites and scares me about taking things a step farther: I don't know what it really feels like, or what desires will spring forth when I embrace this new step in being feminine.....


:rose: FemCurious :rose:

[Tiffany Tuesday]

I am not attracted to men, only women, and that is one reason I dress, I must admit, that when I am dolled up, I have a fantasy about men, but, have never felt good, about the idea of a guy, kissing me, and having his hands, and another part all over me. Any one else had similar dilemna?

Dear Lucille,

simple, leave it as a fantasy. You seem to only want this guy as an accessory to further your feeling of being female.

What about his feelings, his needs, what does he look for from you? Will he not feel dissappointed or hurt or worse angry at you going on a date and not offering even the hope of love or a proper relationship?

If you are totally honest with yourself and him, tell him what you have told us. If he still asks for a date then he knows what the deal is, platonic friendship.

Hugz x


btw legs in the air??? Yeah but only when playing hard to get ... otherwise they go behind our ears girls :)

[Alice Torn]

Your input, all of you, thanks, for it. I am laying low, for now, concentrating on finding a suitable job. There is a beautiful, older gg, I know of, and dance with at times, and want to be closer with, but she won't give me her number, or e-mail. I am nuts about her, and will writte her a letter, give it to her, at the next dance I see her at. I am putting off meeting any guys, as Lucille, for now. Thanks for all the input.

[Lovely Rita]

I have read many of the posts on this thread and the consensus seems to be don't do it. I would agree with them. It is a dangerous game and it could end badly. If guys are not your thing why play with fire?

[JoAnnDallas]

I am not into men, but if I am out dressed as JoAnn, I would expect any men I meet to treat me as a woman. That is hold the door open for me, let me enter a elevator ahead of him, and etc. Normal activity I would give a GG when I am in boy mode. I might even accept a dance or a drink from a guy, but that would the my extream limit.

[CandyDarling]

Don't we all really (deep down) know by now that the reality is very rarely anywhere near as satisfying as the fantasy?

Do we always have to find out the hard way? Seems like it doesn't it. If you can ( thats a big if) leave it alone. Danger does not lurk in the fantasy world.

[vannesar]

I enjoy my crossdressing and even after living in close proximity with gays I've never been tempted , it does nothing for me ,doesn't stir the loins . like someone else said we're guys in frocks !.Vanessa

[MrsDiane]

Over the years I have met with other CD's as well as some guys for sex. I love everything about it.

Diane

[Eugenie]

Complex subject...

Some times ago, I was just fantazising about adventures involving me and another man, or me and another CD. It was fun to imagin such relationships. But I never thought that I would live through such situations in reality.

Well... I have indeed crossed the barrier a couple of times, never with men in their generic role, but with a couple of CDs. Regardless of what we would want to be these "sisters" were anatomically men.

What surprised me was that while "en femme" it felt quite natural for me to act as a woman would with a man. I never went all the way, but the physical contact just felt good.

Further more, in one case, I did find the "he" more attractive than the "she"... But that was only when I was "en femme"...

Now I think that if a "real man" was to court me gently and with all the due respect a gentleman howes to a woman, in a way that I might develop enough feelings for him, it would be quite possible that in the end I would abandon myself to his desires.

But I'm not at all interested in "one night stands, by the way, neither would I be with a genetic woman... I need a caring gentle relation before any further intimate liaison...
:hugs:
Eugenie