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Kelly Greene
02-23-2007, 04:20 PM
I am worried about someone form Lodge seeing me out dressed up, and then being asked to leave Lodge because of un-mason like conduct.

Is there any one who is also a Mason who has any thoughts on being a Mason and a crossdresser?

MsJanessa
02-23-2007, 04:23 PM
Hon I'm a freemason and the thought never occured to Me---also I've never heard of anyone being kicked out of thier lodge for crossdressing---although in the US only males can be masons(not the case in Europe where women are allowed)---relax and enjoy yourself but when you go to lodgemeetings go en drab.

Helen MC
02-23-2007, 05:57 PM
As far as I know there is no prohibition in UK Freemasonry against Crossdressing. My Father and one of my Uncles are Masons and they would have liked me to follow them into the Lodge but it wasn't my scene, far too masculine for me. However I only think they throw you out if you are convicted of a serious crime , or are a bankrupt or the likes of that or for being drunk in the Lodge etc. There are Homosexuals who are Freemasons and that doesn't seem to cause them any grief so as long as you didn't turn up at the Masonic Temple en-femme I don't think they would be that bothered.

goofus
02-23-2007, 07:04 PM
As far as I know there is no prohibition in UK Freemasonry against Crossdressing. My Father and one of my Uncles are Masons and they would have liked me to follow them into the Lodge but it wasn't my scene, far too masculine for me. However I only think they throw you out if you are convicted of a serious crime , or are a bankrupt or the likes of that or for being drunk in the Lodge etc. There are Homosexuals who are Freemasons and that doesn't seem to cause them any grief so as long as you didn't turn up at the Masonic Temple en-femme I don't think they would be that bothered.

After all, Oscar Wilde was a Mason. :D

Cherry Lynn
02-23-2007, 07:16 PM
If they did find out and ask you to leave the Lodge maybe you could join the Eastern Star and get to wear those pretty long dresses.

tvgirl4fun
02-23-2007, 07:47 PM
Asked to leave any organization over crossdressing? Sounds like law suit grounds to me. Gee, I bet their lodge would make a perfect clubhouse for the girls! Jaie

Helen MC
02-23-2007, 07:48 PM
So was J Edgar Hoover! :D

Paula G
02-23-2007, 07:54 PM
As far as I can see, if you are discreet and keep you dressing and lodge separate you should have no problems.

sterling12
02-23-2007, 09:12 PM
Put the whole thing in perspective. I keep reading the figure that 3 to 5% of the total male population is CD or has "experimented". So, let's go with the 5% figure.

At your next meeting, when they are doing all the ceremonial stuff, take a look around at your "Sister" Masons. The odds are terrific that at least one in every twenty is having a good old time dressing up! I suspect it's more of "don't ask-don't tell" kind of thing. Just be discreet, then it's nobody else's business, unless you take all of this Lodge stuff as absolute.

If you and "your Mason/CD Sisters" all get through all The 22 Degrees, you can then be Shriners. I would gladly pay good money to attend at the next Shrine Circus, if I got to see CD Shriners riding around on their little motorcycles! That would make The Gay Pride Parade seem tame. "The wigs, The Fez, tight mini's, OMG!"

My point? Don't take it too seriously. I would imagine that just like every other aspect of life, there are plenty of Trans Folks around your Lodge. "Just go with the flow baby!"

Peace and Love, Joanie

trannie T
02-23-2007, 09:51 PM
Don't you guys already wear aprons?

chris80
02-23-2007, 10:39 PM
how about an Yves St Laurent tuxedo/trouser suit to the lodge?

Melinda G
02-23-2007, 11:08 PM
As long as you remember the proper way to throw water balloons out of hotel windows, you should be OK. :D

Helen MC
02-24-2007, 06:29 AM
Just think, Bro Kelly, as you are in your Lodge Meeting attired in your Tux and wearing your Apron, there could very well be at least one other Brother wearing a pretty pair of women's panties under his trousers, perhaps even your Grand Master?

Paulacder
02-24-2007, 07:10 AM
Would you be recognised if you were in full drag? I doubt it...

From the East......:D

Paulacder
02-24-2007, 07:12 AM
If they did find out and ask you to leave the Lodge maybe you could join the Eastern Star and get to wear those pretty long dresses.

I like tis reply............:heehee:

Carla_L_MI
02-24-2007, 08:35 AM
I am a freemason, having a rather high position in the fraternity. I don't know what would happen if I were caught. I don't worry too much in the postings, as I figure if they are looking here or any of the other forums, then they too may be a cd.

I have worn panties to lodge, even thigh highs once, never any more and probably go with just panties since I didn't feel comfortable about the hose when I wore them.

I belong to a younger lodge and if a person were found to be a cd, I think our lodge would not ask him to leave. I really can't say that is the case of some of the lodges where most of the brothers are older. Some of the older guys are stuck in their ways and there is no changing them.

I wish I had a better answer for you. I just don't know.

Cherry Lynn
02-24-2007, 08:45 AM
I like tis reply............:heehee:

Thank you dear.

Katie Ashe
02-24-2007, 11:17 AM
My whole family tree is in the lodge, guys and girls, for at least the last 100 years almost. rainbow, masonic, kids burn center, scottish rite... etc!!!

Most of them try to ignore the fact I am Katie, but you will soon learn whom your real friends are. No it is not against lodge polices, and if you follow the by laws, you should be accept as a nuetral party and not shut out. I would not fear if I was you.

For the record, I'm not a member. But attend several functions as a supporter. :happy:

Sharon
02-24-2007, 01:11 PM
I have no interest in belonging to an organization that wouldn't accept me for who I am.

jamiesnj
02-24-2007, 01:18 PM
It's great to know I am not the only crossdressing Mason out there

Paula G
02-24-2007, 06:39 PM
It's great to know I am not the only crossdressing Mason out there

I'm sure there are quite a few of us here, would be interesting to know just how many.

Ronda_B
02-24-2007, 08:58 PM
I'm not a Mason but have been a chapter Dad for the Jobe's daughters and DeMolay's. I have thought about joining many time but haven't yet.

trannie T
02-24-2007, 09:19 PM
I have no interest in belonging to an organization that wouldn't accept me for who I am.

To paraphrase Groucho Marx, I have no interest in joining an organization whose standards are so low that they would let me in.:tongueout

Jodi
02-24-2007, 09:33 PM
I am also a Master Mason.

Jodi

Helen MC
02-25-2007, 06:24 AM
Seems there are quite a few Freemasons on this Forum who are also CDs and
I understand that Masons not only wear Aprons but in some of their Higher Degrees robes etc? So in a way "dressing-up" features albeit not in a sexual way.

If a Brother only "underdressed" by wearing panties under his otherwise very male suit, Tux or whatever was the Dress Code in his Lodge, none of the other members would ever know. I assume that unlike sports such as Golf, Football, Rugby etc men come to the Temple in the appropriate attire and don't need to get changed in a Locker Room and thus revel their underwear to the gaze of others?

If Bro Kelly is worried about being seen out and about en-femme by another Member of the Lodge then they could dress in some other place away from their Lodge area.

stephanie100
02-25-2007, 07:21 AM
Check out your local lodge er any chance we could use the halls as a CD club on nights masons arnt using them

Angie G
02-25-2007, 08:16 AM
I'm with Sharon :hugs:
Angie

lynda jane hamilton
02-25-2007, 08:24 AM
Another Mason here. How about forming a CD lodge?!!

Lyndax

Charolette time
02-27-2007, 12:09 PM
I am worried about someone form Lodge seeing me out dressed up, and then being asked to leave Lodge because of un-mason like conduct.

Is there any one who is also a Mason who has any thoughts on being a Mason and a crossdresser?

Tuxs are the only time that I dont wear Panties, the Tux pants are rental style, with adjustable sides, almost 40 yrs a Mason.
Charolette
P>S> The lodge in Provincetown , Massachusetts is about 60% gay, and they are some of the nicest guys you could meet,

JoAnnDallas
02-27-2007, 01:22 PM
My father was a 4th degree Mason, but I am an Elk member. In one lodge the month after elections, they had an activity for charity where the past officers had to get all dressed up, walk a runway, and dance with as many men as possible. It was great fun. One time this one past officer really did a great job on her outfit, makeup, wig and really looked hot. She got a lot of guys wanting to sign her dance card.

Siobhan Marie
03-08-2007, 05:03 PM
I'm with Sharon

Me too.

:hugs: Anna Marie x

Girlieboy
03-08-2007, 05:12 PM
Not a problem - at least not over here in England, believe me.

NatalieGirl
03-08-2007, 07:50 PM
I wouldn't qualify anyway. I'm not a bricklayer.

jenni644
03-08-2007, 08:12 PM
hi bunny, mason here also , idont; worry about that i don;t go meeting any more

still a lodge member always

Tiffany Tuesday
03-08-2007, 08:59 PM
I am worried about someone form Lodge seeing me out dressed up, and then being asked to leave Lodge because of un-mason like conduct.

Is there any one who is also a Mason who has any thoughts on being a Mason and a crossdresser?

It is not wrong to be a tgirl and a member of an ancient tradition but it would be inappropriate to let the two mix openly together. Respect both and honour your oaths, they are not incompatable.

Charolette time
03-12-2007, 10:22 AM
I AM NOT A MASON BUT I DID HAVE A FEW OF THEM RUN A CON GAME ON ME ABOUT A REALESTATE AND CREDIT DEAL. is there something I can do about that?

like any good organization it only takes one bad apple to ruin the barrel. If you were harmed by a mason I am sorry for you, but please dont judge us for 1 bad deed, masons spend over 3 million dollars a day on charitable endevors, Charolette a mason for almost 40 yrs,

MsJanessa
03-12-2007, 11:32 AM
like any good organization it only takes one bad apple to ruin the barrel. If you were harmed by a mason I am sorry for you, but please dont judge us for 1 bad deed, masons spend over 3 million dollars a day on charitable endevors, Charolette a mason for almost 40 yrs,

I suspect she was talking about actual masons as in bricklayers, not Freemasons

MsJanessa
03-14-2007, 11:59 AM
no I was talking about the mason's organization.( not brick layers)
I am sure I would of been a victom of a fake escrow scam.

other mason told me that they could get there ring taken.
I kind of know what that is.

thanks for the support but I was trying to find out what can be done to make things right.

Hon if you've been swindled by Freemasons or anybody else, go file a complaint with your local police department---theft by fraud is as illegal as any other kind of theft whether they are masons or not---also a guilty plea usually involves some type of court ordered restitution---if you would like to talk about it somemore, send Me a private email.

CharlaineCadence
03-14-2007, 12:25 PM
i'm a mason myself though I have not been to a meeting since I come out about being trans though i know many masons who are crossdressers.