F2M transgender article in the Boston Globe

[Eva Diva]

This article is in the magazine section of today's Boston Globe.


http://tinyurl.com/2nyrgf

[CaptLex]

This article is in the magazine section of today's Boston Globe.


http://tinyurl.com/2nyrgf
Good article, Eva, the author did a good job at presenting the facts fairly and objectively. I can understand why some people would object to having transmen in their schools, but I'm glad these colleges are giving transguys the opportunity to find their community. I think it's important for us to have places where we can be with others like us.

I like this quote:

“But once you get into this, within the community, there’s a lot of competition. Who goes on T first. Who is taking more T. Who gets top surgery first.”

LOL - guys are soooo competitive. :heehee:

[Kitty Sue]

What a great article, thanks. Interesting to see the simillarities all of us in the TG community have.

[Adam]

thankyou for posting that up :D

[Eva Diva]

There's a lot of issues raised, especially in the later part of the article. You've got the WTF? reaction, the militant lesbian "traitor to your gender" bit, all wrapped up in the bigger question of how the hell they get away with gender discrimination in admissions in the first place. Personally, I'm a social libertarian - if you're not stepping on my toes, I'm all for it, whatever it is. :D

[CaptLex]

There's a lot of issues raised, especially in the later part of the article. You've got the WTF? reaction, the militant lesbian "traitor to your gender" bit,
Unfortunately, we (transmen) hear that all too often. I hope someday they'll see that it has nothing to do with denying that we're women, but accepting that we're not. I wish everyone could see it as easily as you do. :hugs:

[Siobhan Marie]

This article is in the magazine section of today's Boston Globe.


http://tinyurl.com/2nyrgf

Eva, thank you so much for posting that link. I learnt a lot from reading it.
Thank you again.

huge :hugs: and *cuddles*

Anna Marie x

[Dasein9]

Thanks for the link, Eva Diva. (I feel bad that your post is right next to the Evil Devil post. It's only a coincidence; I promise! :))

I find it frustrating that the article insists on giving the guys' birth names and describing them as feminine and then masculine, but I guess that the overall sensitivity of the article outweighs that.

[Sally24]

That one student didn't seem to think they should have any trans population there. She didn't want transistioning transmen, transmen who had transitioned in high school or MTF transwomen who were already transitioned. Seems to me you either have to go by birth as female, female by choice, or both to be consistant with the goals of an all female college. That's just me though.

[Dasein9]

That one student didn't seem to think they should have any trans population there. She didn't want transistioning transmen, transmen who had transitioned in high school or MTF transwomen who were already transitioned. Seems to me you either have to go by birth as female, female by choice, or both to be consistant with the goals of an all female college. That's just me though.


Yeh, but since college is a time of transition in so many ways, and so many people don't realise they are trans until college or after, it hardly seems unreasonable for people who are already matriculated to want to finish up their degrees where they started.

[jsoto81]

That was a awesome article. It was very well written and very fair to the topic and the person they were writing about. Great find.

[bi_weird]

Man, that's gotta get really complicated really quick. College is a place for change, and lets face it, women's colleges have a rep for breeding lesbians. It's no surprise to hear that there are a lot of transmen there. Of course, I don't have much of an opinion about their presence there, seeing as how I've never understood the point of a single sex college. Boys = good, imho. But yes on a slightly more mature note, that's gotta be hard, because it's supposed to be a place for women to be women, and here there are women being men...and that can't be easy to deal with.

[Felix]

Great article, I've saved it, thanx xx Felix :hugs:

[Question Mark]

This is an interesting issue. The article brought up a good point with the discrepancy on resumes when a man comes in having Smith on his diploma. It's one of the reason why I resisted my friend's attempts to coax me to transfer to Smith.

That, and I like being around guys. Most girls and I don't mix very well.

[joshawesome]

I just wrote about this on my blog (http://joshanastasia.com/2007/04/19/transmen-at-womens-colleges/). Feel free to comment on what I said there.

When I lived in San Diego, I lived in the gay community there. FtM's were the outcasts of the community. I found it hard to find a job or even to make friends that weren't FtM because we were just looked at as weird and as traitors. A lot of the lesbians there made a point to call me out. But thankfully, the people that I worked with there were supportive, very supportive actually, and it made my time there that much better.

[pocoyo]

lol I haven't had chance to read the article yet but it sounds like it will be good!

I didn't even know that there was such a thing as single sex colleges!

Also...slightly off topic perhaps lol. Re: the mention of some lesbians' rejection of ftms:
It's a bit annoying about lesbians being cross with FtMs... some (many many) ftms have never ever even identified as a lesbian but as a straight man... or have accidentally thought they were a lesbian due to their attraction to women, but then realised that was totally wrong & they are infact a man.
Also MANY ftms aren't attracted to women, and see themselves as gay men, and when they lived as a woman (before they realised they were a man) they lived as a straight women. I certainly am not a lesbian and never have been, never will be! But I am a ftm.

So ... why is it any of the cross lesbians business?!

Ftms are completely different creatures.

If lesbians are part of the whole gay community thing, you'd think they'd be a bit more open minded!

(I know it's not all lesbians that reject ftms and see them as traitors, some are well cool with ftms... I was just saying about those that don't like ftms).

We're all just people.

Live and let live, you unnaccepting gay women!