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Cathy J
04-18-2007, 05:31 AM
Why are so many of us so focussed on going out and passing? I've been in the closet all my life (and it's a long one so far) and the only person I have to please is myself when I look into the mirror or take some photos. I dress as often as is comfortable in my SO situation (she doesn't know but suspects).

I don't have any desire to go out en-femme nor do I ever intend to quit or purge again. I just feel great when dressed and am soooo relaxed!

Let me know how you feel.

LOVE

Lilith Moon
04-18-2007, 06:16 AM
I don't know why I crossdress and I don't know why I like to pass, but I do. I just have an urge to go out and be perceived as female in everyday life and on the occasions when it has worked out I feel wonderful.

kay_jessica
04-18-2007, 06:24 AM
I guess, its because the Male to Female state is a contineumn. That is to say, there is no fixed point on that "line" where "we" sit. I my opinion, those girls that aspire to go out dressed are just futher towards the Femm end of the line. For me its is not passing, though to many that may seem to be the goal. For me it is to be accepted as a women, to be treated as a women. I aim to be cumfortable being Kay, not to feel self conscious when i try on a dress or new trousers. Like today, I needed to get some wall fixings from Homebase. I could have drove there en drab and got them. But because I am so cumfortable as Kay I just walked there and got the bits and called in at my local Tescos Express for some choccy on theway back. I dressed to fit in, black leggings and top. noraml makeup and subtle nails. Did I pass, well I did not get stared at and every one i passed in the street did not do a double take. A few builders shouted some thing, but they were a good ways off so I suspect they were shouting at me as Kay not as a Tranny. At th check out i was treated normaly, and a gent even held a door open for me. So I guess I achieved my personal goals.

But it is true it is not for every one, and you should only do what you feel you want to do. You notice the posts about going out and passing, because, many girls want to, they get read. If they get read it encourages the outers to post some more and so on. Because you do not aspire to go out is not a negative reflection on your own aspirations.

At the far ends there are girls who just where panties (David Beckam) and the the other end we have 24/7 TS/TGs. We are all individuals. I guess what i am tring to say is Do what you want when you want where you want wearing what ever you want so long as it is legal and does not cause offence.

Hugs

Karren H
04-18-2007, 06:41 AM
Ahhhhh .......... Because its fun!! Which btw pleases me!

Karren

Gina_darling
04-18-2007, 07:29 AM
It's about expressing the true you. For some, being male is fine and a bit of closet dressing is satisfactory.

Others it is about expressing a femininity and that means expressing it in public. We want to be seen as our feminine selves, not just a guy in a dress hence the wanting to pass. I have been out and did not receive any double takes or rude comments, in fact everyone either takes no notice or are polite. In fact I had more converstations with strangers as Gina than I do as my male self, and those conversations were pleasant. So I either passed or was just perceived as a nice person doing something I want to do without worrying what others think.

For another group again they are women just with male bodies and so to go out and pass is to be a person in normal society. They don't want to be seen as having been male, just want to be the woman they are.

Hope this answers your question. If I have said something that anyone disagrees with feel free to put me right! :happy:

Gina xx

TerriM
04-18-2007, 07:35 AM
Why? I asked myself that question many times over the years. Why do I dress? Why do I go out? Why do I like the type of clothes , makeup ,etc?
When I was in my forties , Im 58 now, I stopped asking. I have found that made me more comfortable with myself.

Yours Terri

stacie
04-18-2007, 07:37 AM
For myself I would go crazy if I had to stay behind closed doors. I want to enjoy the outdoors and live life, If I pass, I pass. If not who cares. In time you may want to go out in public, never say never. I never thought I would.

Charleen
04-18-2007, 07:41 AM
When I first found this site I got on the"pink cloud" and it was Katie bar the door! Went out and passed a number of times, but I went to fast and went beyond my comfort level, fell from the cloud with a thud that set off earthquake alarms around the world, and ran to the closet again.
Kay's right it is a process. I'm taking things slow now and am following my comfort level and have progressed to the point that I rarely care what anyone thinks now. I wear my hair long, hoop earrings, long and polished nails, jewelry, perfume, and mascara at all times even at work where I gotta be Charlie. I add eye shadow, lip gloss, and curl my hair when I'm not at work. Am I trying to pass? I'll put it to you this way, untill mid May I also have a goatee!
We are all on the path. Some further along the way, some sitting on a bech enjoying the scenery even if it's through the slats of the closet door, and I know that view well!
Enjoy yourself! That's the bottom line.
Love and xxxx, Lily

Violetgray
04-18-2007, 08:08 AM
Well, humans are by nature social creatures, so it makes sense the people who want to be women would also wish socialize as such... Everyone wants to be beautiful, and its great to take comfort in your beauty, but its also great when others acknowledge it, or better yet except you for who you are.. :2c:

Nikki Dee
04-18-2007, 08:49 AM
Why are so many of us so focussed on going out and passing? I've been in the closet all my life (and it's a long one so far) and the only person I have to please is myself when I look into the mirror or take some photos. I dress as often as is comfortable in my SO situation (she doesn't know but suspects).

I don't have any desire to go out en-femme nor do I ever intend to quit or purge again. I just feel great when dressed and am soooo relaxed!

Let me know how you feel.

LOVE

WHY.???...Same reason as you don't..'cos it's right for ME.!!..and it's what makes me feel so good.!
Nikki.

veronicag48
04-18-2007, 09:08 AM
I've been crossdressing off and on now since I was about 8 years young. I have yet to not stepped ouy into the public eye. No special reason, but I have taken walks at nite when neighbor activity has died down and there is a feeling of WOW this feels really good to feel the evening air drift across my nylon covered legs when I in shorts or a skirt. And a bit of eroticism tossed in to boot.:c9:

Rachel Morley
04-18-2007, 09:20 AM
I didn't always used to go out. I never used to venture further than the patio. Then one day I asked my wife what she thought about me going out in public, in daylight, just once in my life. That's all I want to do. Just once. I didn't want to end my life not knowing what it might have been like.

However, once I did it, I enjoyed it so much wanted to do it again, then again, and again. Then we were doing together as "two girls" all the time, like every weekend. Nowadays, it's calmed down a bit and we go out together with me en femme maybe three times a month and not always on a weekend.

It's personal preference. If you're happy not leaving the house that cool, it's your life, do whatever makes you feel happy. :happy:

Sarah Plumber
04-18-2007, 09:24 AM
I beleive that for any given subject that there will always be the extremes and then all of the places in-between... The greater number of people involved the greater the extremes will be, although most will wallow around the center.

For example how do you feel about the death penalty?

Some people would kill everybody who ever did anything wrong. At the other end of the spectrum there are those who are dedicated to stopping it and would do anything to make it so. Most of us arn't to sure or drift from one way to the other depending on situation and probably will never reach the extremes.

The same with dressing...Some go all the way with SRS, some hate it with a passion. Then there are those of us who wallow around in the middle...dress sometimes, sometimes don't. Those who like to go out, and those who don't.....

It's a big world and if we were all the same it would be very very dull... Here's to non-conformaty !! :D

Pippilotta
04-18-2007, 09:51 AM
In much, I think, it is about confirmation of self, ie that by passing outsiders affirm that you are who/what you want to be for the time being. Taking photos of os often serves the same function.
Certainly there also is an element of thrill involved, of taking a risk, of testing how far one could go.

Emily Ann Brown
04-18-2007, 09:56 AM
Yeah Nikki !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You got it right.


I am TG. I feel right as a female. To not go out and have a life would be prison for me.


Passing? Well I don't get hassled so I guess I do, but it really doesn't matter because Emily Ann has a full life including a PUBLIC one.


Emily Ann

cindychan
04-18-2007, 10:32 AM
Why are so many of us so focussed on going out and passing? I've been in the closet all my life (and it's a long one so far) and the only person I have to please is myself when I look into the mirror or take some photos. I dress as often as is comfortable in my SO situation (she doesn't know but suspects).

I don't have any desire to go out en-femme nor do I ever intend to quit or purge again. I just feel great when dressed and am soooo relaxed!

Let me know how you feel.

LOVE

Well, we are all different and have our own comfort levels as to going out enfemme. I like to only on rare occassions, but the desire has increased recently. A few weeks ago I went to my bank enfemme and had fun. Anyway a change of scenery is nice. I get very bored stuck in a house:heehee:

Di
04-18-2007, 11:14 AM
Just my :2c: from a GG.....Do what makes you happy...it isn't a race or a competition....it is all about what it means to you.Enjoy:hugs:

Rikkicn
04-18-2007, 11:27 AM
We should all do what makes us happy and comfortable and, and not let be determined by our fears. That's so important to our well being

Lovely Rita
04-18-2007, 11:30 AM
Different strokes for different folks. I am happy you are happy.

Sharon
04-18-2007, 11:31 AM
Just my :2c: from a GG.....Do what makes you happy...it isn't a race or a competition....it is all about what it means to you.Enjoy:hugs:

Exactly! There isn't a single manner here to express yourself -- we're all different. It sounds to me that Cathy J has found the place that's best suited for her and that alone places her among the "winners."

Minerva Morgan
04-18-2007, 11:47 AM
Often, when dressed, I think of the phrase, "All dressed-up and no place to go." As mentioned above, most people like to be able to socialize, and to be accepted by others. For many crossdressers, they eventually develop a different, feminine personality. The fear of ridicule and condemnation can make that other person very lonely. I suspect that those ladies who have taken their femme selves into the public, and found friends and activities as a woman, are emotionally elevated by the acceptance they do receive. I admire their courage and the service they provide to all of us. By making crossdressing more visible and more common, they take small steps in making it more acceptable.

Minerva

laura47
04-18-2007, 11:59 AM
Every woman loves a cowboy .... Maybe we love the cowgirls
Just know we like it as it is not accepted by society

KimberlyS
04-18-2007, 12:05 PM
I don't have any desire to go out en-femme nor do I ever intend to quit or purge again. I just feel great when dressed and am soooo relaxed!


Cathy, I have commented on this before in other posts. Those that wear more feminine items, dress more often, go out, and general have a greater self acceptance tend to be the more vocal ones on this and other forums. IMHO and others also, there is a greater number of CDers that wear fewer feminine items, dress less often, do not want to go out, that tend to be less vocal for what ever their reasons are.

Going out is not for everyone. And until till the silent majority become more vocal, they will be the minority in the postings. I get emails and PMs from people responding to my posts in the forums who are for some reason afraid to post. My question to you is what can we do to get these people to post??? As I am perplexed are you are about it. Do we need a "Non-Passing" forum area??


Why are so many of us so focussed on going out and passing?

I can only answer for me. For me it is a urge, a internal need to just be myself. I want to be able to shop for and wear any clothes of my choice both from the mens and womans departments. I want to wake up in the morning and put on the clothes that fit my mood, the weather, and my tasks for the day being the clothes all feminine, all masculine or mix and match in a tasteful way. And I always want to present my male self. Wear little to no makeup and my own hair. I am just a guy with both masculine and feminine feelings, traits, attributes and physical characteristics.

I tried just dressing at home and most of the time I am ok with that when I am busy doing things within the house. But if I need to run to the garage or the store for something, I need to remove any outwardly feminine clothing to leave the house. Then when I am back change back if I want. Try doing that multiple times in one day. Try doing it a dozen times plus in one afternoon.

I just want to be in my jean skirt, tee shirt, ball cap, work boots and be able to go to the garage or the hardware store and not hide what ever I happened to be wearing before I get there.

But we live in a small clicky conservative town. For me to come out here would be hell for my kids and wife, and for my parents. If I was single and it was just me things would most likely be different and I would be out like I want to be. A guy in feminine clothes. But life is full of choices and compromises, and even more with a wife and kids. I choose to be married and I am lucky to have a wife who is willing to work with me on finding where my CD fits within our marriage. At this point my compromise it to always present a male or female image that society can handle/accept when being out in public.

And when I am out I do not try to "Pass". I just try to blend in with the general public. And I think I do just look like a person in the crowd to most people. Those that look close and those that I interact with do get some surprised and questioning looks at times, but I have always been treated just like anyone else would have been. But I also get smiles, and grins from people, mostly gals when they make me or interact with me. I also have found some SA gals really seem to like and have fun helping guys or en femme CDers while shopping.

I also have found that generally society can accept more than we think they can. And the acceptance seems highly based on the first impression of the TG's presentation. And my experience has been the presentation is mostly personal and projected attitude with looks being minor.

I tell people, if you have no desire to go out then do not. Do not let what others do decide who you are. Be yourself. Live your life, not someone else's life.

If you do truly want to get out I say:
1: Get out of the town you live in. Far out of town if needed.
2: Just do it. Pick a safe and public place with a blending look for where you go. Passing is optional !!!!

Beth5083
04-18-2007, 12:34 PM
I'll back that I like dressing alone in the comfort of my house.

spaelwitterbok
04-18-2007, 01:01 PM
While I have not been dressing for very long at all, and have only been out technically once. I find its a thrill. Even though i was not prepared for the looks, or the one derogatory comment made, I feel that my first outing was a success, luckily I was with my girlfriend, so that made it bearable. I know not everyone has the opportunity to go out with a GG, which is too bad because it made me a lot mre comfortable.

Passing is something I hope to someday accomplish, and whether or not I do I have a feeling I will be going out again, and again... well I guess we will see...

XDW Nathan-Natasha
04-18-2007, 01:17 PM
Well, Cathy...
For me I feel like by cross-dressing and going out, I am expressing a part of myself that I can't express otherwise. I have yet to go public enfemme, but today was the first day in which I could safely leave the room (and house) enfemme and it felt wonderful!
I have been a closet cross-dresser since I was around...well - 7 or 8 I think, and my feminine side has been a part of me that I was never given the chance to examine. So, for years I was happy being in the closet. I dressed when I felt like it in private, and went back into male-mode when the desire left me.
Eventually, my desire to dress pretty much faded and vanished. I think it was still there, but I was trying to sort out so many other things in my life at the time that it went into a pupal state - like into a cacoon, you know?

Well, within the last several months I've re-emerged from my cacoon and I found that in my hiatus from cross-dressing, my desires changed. My dressing was something I no longer wanted to keep in the closet. I wanted to take it out and let it taste the air of a spring breeze for once, so to speak.

I also found that there were some parts deep inside of me that were happy as a woman - maybe happier. And if not happier, then parts that were inaccessible to me as a man and that I could only reach by cross-dressing. So by dressing, and by going out - which to me is the epitomy of self expression as a cross-dresser - I am fully accepting of my female half, myself as Natasha, as a woman, and as a whole self in general.

I hope that helps some, Cathy...
Don't think that there's anything wrong with being in the closet, though. Everyone dresses for different reasons and to meet different needs. I need to be able to dress - and go out - to fully express my feminity. You may dress for a different reason, and like you said, going out is something you do not desire. Just enjoy your dressing for what it is - a part of you!

Blonde
04-18-2007, 02:50 PM
Myself, I would like the true freedom to be able to go out dressed either way I feel like that day.

As for trying to "pass" enfemm, to me (and I bet others) is part of the "dressing", and to also "avoid" any unplesant encounters (a "guy in a dress" can cause lots of problems if you meet the wrong people, even more than a GG in that same situation).

Ruth
04-18-2007, 04:11 PM
Going out and meeting the general public is a different CD experience from doing it in private. I've only done it once, I may do again, it's not top of my 'to do' list. I'm not urging you to do it, but you won't know what all the fuss is about unless you do it.

Kristen Kelly
04-18-2007, 04:47 PM
The nails go on the last thing and I'm out the door, almost never stay home and just dress any more. I have become a part of the community out to dinner the clubs with friends, others recognize me; they know me as Kristen not as Ted. It's not about passing, but I do not get pegged, as often, at times I feel invisible.

Stephenie S
04-18-2007, 09:12 PM
I do not obsess over "going out". But . . . I have to. I have to go out. I have to shop, and buy gas, and go to the dentist, and the post office, and all the other places that I have to go to live my life. And this is the way I want to dress. So for me, it's not so much wanting to "go out", as it is just wanting to live my life as I want it. Do I get some funny looks? Sometimes. But I try and look as good as I can. And I find that most people just don't care. My wife says, "Oh, you look very pretty, for a guy!". Huh? Is that a compliment?

Well, I'll take any that I can get.

Lovies,
Stephenie

trannie T
04-18-2007, 09:29 PM
I don't pass. I wish I could but it is not to be. I still go out and thoroughly enjoy it. If you do not wish to go out that is fine, we have the freedom to hit the streets or stay in the closet. It is your choice and your choice alone.

Phoebe Reece
04-18-2007, 09:57 PM
When I was just 4 years old, I put on a floppy woman's hat, a dress, stockings, women's shoes (that were way too big) and headed out the door. I walked down the sidewalk and spent some time talking to some people at the bus stop before being called back in. The first time I dressed completely with full makeup, wig, etc. was for Mardi Gras in New Orleans in 1971. I spent that day out on the street with thousands of people around me. If I knew why I did that then, I might have a better understanding of what drives me to go out in public now.

I can guess at a some motivations though. One current reason is that for quite a few years I lived and worked in a place where going out of the house dressed femme simply was simply not an option if I wanted to keep working there. All that time of "all dressed up and no place to go" wore heavily on me, especially since I had experience in going out before that period in my life.

Another factor is that for me it has been a way of facing my fears. Pushing myself a little beyond my current comfort zone helps me to face up to other difficult situations in life.

TxKimberly
04-18-2007, 10:47 PM
Because going through the kind of effort it takes to look like a woman, I just can't see sitting in the house being bored outta my mind. Like Karen says "it should be fun"!

Kim

Satrana
04-18-2007, 11:42 PM
Those that wear more feminine items, dress more often, go out, and general have a greater self acceptance tend to be the more vocal ones on this and other forums. IMHO and others also, there is a greater number of CDers that wear fewer feminine items, dress less often, do not want to go out, that tend to be less vocal for what ever their reasons are.

I agree with your summary, it seems to me the majority of crossdressers are not trying to pass or emulate women but just want to express aspects of femininity which interest them. This silent majority though are more likely to keep this to themselves and not tell their SOs or go out in public, it is a private affair only. However the most vocal group here are those who do go out in public to pass and report their social interactions. The perception is that this is something which all crossdressers do or want to do, but I don't think this is correct.

Another misperpection I have observed from ggs among others is that the passing experience is about excitement and danger. Certainly the first times in public are nervewracking and you are pumped up with adrenaline, but once you have done this a couple of dozen times the nerves and buzz quickly dissipates and the passing experience becomes another statement of self-expression and acceptance.

The passing experience can be fun for other reasons not directly linked to crossdressing. It is fun to become someone else, to escape your responsibilities and discover new ways to view the world. Lots of people dress up in all sorts of costumes to have a holiday away from themselves, and passing as a woman has the same qualities.

Michelle_S
04-19-2007, 12:22 AM
That's a good question Cathy, and well timed for me. I went out in a real public place for the first time today. I went to the mall and to the MAC counter to get some new and better quality makeup. It was both terrifying and exciting, but went very well, nothing bad happened, and it was a tremendous boost of confidence for me. I don't think it's an ultimate goal for most of us to go out, but it's part of the experience of embracing our femininity, finding pride in ourselves, and showing the world we're not afraid of what's out there. At least for me those are a few good reasons. I completely believe in free will and everyone should do what feels right to them, whether it's dressing privately or going out. Myself, I do want to go out more, to be able to shop en femme, and enjoy being Michelle however feels best at the time. Just my two cents....

-Michelle

Fab Karen
04-19-2007, 03:57 AM
It's about expressing the true you. For some, being male is fine and a bit of closet dressing is satisfactory.

Others it is about expressing a femininity and that means expressing it in public. We want to be seen as our feminine selves, not just a guy in a dress hence the wanting to pass. I have been out and did not receive any double takes or rude comments, in fact everyone either takes no notice or are polite. In fact I had more converstations with strangers as Gina than I do as my male self, and those conversations were pleasant. So I either passed or was just perceived as a nice person doing something I want to do without worrying what others think.

For another group again they are women just with male bodies and so to go out and pass is to be a person in normal society. They don't want to be seen as having been male, just want to be the woman they are.

Hope this answers your question. If I have said something that anyone disagrees with feel free to put me right! :happy:

Gina xx

That was very well put. And whether in boy-mode or girl-mode, I try to remember, what others think of me isn't worth worrying about.

K.

tanya3
04-19-2007, 04:11 AM
i have only been out a few times and felt such a rush from it i can't wait to go out the next time , as kimberly said why spend all that time getting dressed w/ make up and all and waste it looking at myself .i happen to have a pretty nice shape and want to show off and besides it's fun !!!!!!!!!

Angie G
04-19-2007, 04:19 AM
I can't pass pass soI don't go out dressed thoughI'd love to just go around in a skirt anf heels in public :hugs:
Angie

MarinaTwelve200
04-19-2007, 06:35 AM
Why are so many of us so focussed on going out and passing? I've been in the closet all my life (and it's a long one so far) and the only person I have to please is myself when I look into the mirror or take some photos. I dress as often as is comfortable in my SO situation (she doesn't know but suspects).

I don't have any desire to go out en-femme nor do I ever intend to quit or purge again. I just feel great when dressed and am soooo relaxed!

Let me know how you feel.

LOVE

I feel exactly the same way. I feel NO need to go out as I concider my CDing as a personal "private" thing I do.

As I observe that there are several types of CDers (Escapists, fem-siders, taboo trippers, etc.) I would think that certian types such as the fem-siders (who feel their "REAL self is female) are more prone to want to go out --to fulfill a "need" us other types may not have.---And not us not forget a thrill seeking uige or a touch of exhibitionisim that might be more of an individual personal trait,

BlUeDrAgOn
04-19-2007, 06:47 AM
Well, first of all I'm very shy dressed as a man, so I'd be even more dressed as a lady. Secondly, I like to dress for myself, not for other people. I'm not saying I wouldn't like to do it (I'd love to have the courage), but I don't believe Il ever will. Maybe if I had a group of people like us, but there are none in these parts (I live in a small town...).

sami1952
04-19-2007, 06:50 AM
Crossdressing is who i am and have been this way since i was around 12 and when i dress i like to be able to go out in pulbic and and blend in with other people,so passing is a must for me,if i am going to dress like a women i lke to look and pass as a women.

Dixie
04-19-2007, 07:51 AM
I like to go out because the first time I did was such a rush, and the second time even more so, So I guess it's because I like the attention.:D

Cathy J
04-21-2007, 05:01 AM
Thanks for all your wonderful and thoughtful responses to my question. I've so much to read over and think about. It's because of this type of interaction that has made me so proud and happy to be a member of this forum. I was quite lost before I discovered this wonderful place.

I might have to re-assess my feelings about going out and trying to pass. I have to agree with so many that it must be part of the "fun" of cd'ing and being en-femme is the most fun I have at any time. Especial thanks to Karren Hutton for her short but right on comment.

I love you all,

Roxi Loh
04-21-2007, 07:44 AM
Having been out one time in my whole life (last week), I can tell you the exhilarating feeling from hitting that door for the first time. Mine was in the daylight and included dinner at kind of shopping center restaurant. It was a true rush walking past people and imagining what they thought...even though I didn't ultimately care. Then there was the feeling of belonging to a group of sisters with similar tastes. In short it was just fun. Can't wait to do it again.

Sally2005
04-21-2007, 11:41 PM
Just to add, I agree with Kim, Karen and Roxi's comments. All that effort needs to be put to use. I also think it is the challenge and the enjoyment of the experience.

Lisa Maren
04-22-2007, 04:58 PM
I want to go out en femme because I don't want to have to be lonely (meaning totally alone) to be myself. I want to feel like I'm being real to people.

I will admit, though, that I suspect I will find it something of a rush when I do that for the first time (sometime not on Halloween, anyway).

Hugs,
Lisa

Rikkicn
04-22-2007, 06:08 PM
Some of us simply want to be "seen" and recognized in the world as we feel ours selves to be.
Some of Don't have this need or desire. Some of us do.

Toyah
04-22-2007, 06:44 PM
I really dont and have done

angela2112
04-22-2007, 07:06 PM
gives me a buzz.....fear of getting caught.....happy times really all in all

windycissy
04-22-2007, 10:04 PM
Because going through the kind of effort it takes to look like a woman, I just can't see sitting in the house being bored outta my mind. Like Karen says "it should be fun"!

Kim

Kim sums it up beautifully....passing as a woman is SO MUCH FUN! It's enabled me to meet some wonderful girls from this forum, how I treasure those moments.

Why do I go out? Because I can!

JacquiUKTV
04-22-2007, 10:56 PM
In my younger days when I could have gone out and perhaps even "passed"...I was so held back by fear of being "found out" etc.
I confined my "outings" to late at night when no-one could see.....I recall the feeling of being "out in the world" as a a girl....in the "real" world .....
So good...so gratifying....as if at last, I could be the "real" me.
Walking down a suburban street...as I walked under street-lights; my shadow on the ground...long legs in a short skirt....felt I'd "come home".
The person I really wanted to be.....fell in love with myself.

MsMichelle
04-23-2007, 06:41 AM
Why are so many of us so focussed on going out and passing? I've been in the closet all my life (and it's a long one so far) and the only person I have to please is myself when I look into the mirror or take some photos. I dress as often as is comfortable in my SO situation (she doesn't know but suspects).

I don't have any desire to go out en-femme nor do I ever intend to quit or purge again. I just feel great when dressed and am soooo relaxed!

Let me know how you feel.

LOVE

In support of what other have already expressed, we are all very much different. There are thousands of folks like you that are very comfortable staying in the closet. Some are quite satisfied to put on a pair of panties and pantyhose and strut around the house. That is one end of a very wide spectrum. I consider myself more of a non-op transsexual than a Crossdresser. To that end I am compelled to be out in public as a female. If I didn't pass it really wouldn't matter as it is more of who I am than who I am trying to please. Those of us that do happen to pass very well take that to be an added bonus. However I dare say that if you asked many here how important passing is, they would have varied opinions. Let's be honest, I have seen some genetic women who on my worst day look better as a female than they on their best. It really comes down to just what does it take to satisfy your individual needs. If strutting around the house works for you, then there is nothing wrong with that end you will very likely never be compelled to go further. While I do object to dressing up around the house and my wife certainly has no objection, it just doesn't do much for me. Once I have spent 30 minutes putting on a perfect face, showing it just around the house seems to be such a gross waste of time. The other aspect for me and I know hundreds of others is that I don't believe in a partial transformation. It's either 100% passable female or nothing at all. I can also tell you that my wife appreciates that greatly. The only exception being that I wear female panties 100% of the time. The reason being that I really hate mens and can't tolerate wearing them at all. Aside from that, I don't go around wearing something female under my guys clothing. It's either 100% one or the other. In doing couples support, I can't tell you how many wives simply detest the fact that their husband wears bit and pieces of female clothing under their mens clothing to work etc. This entire scenerio is even more greatly amplified if your spouse doesn't know you crossdress. Picture the scaenerio of being in a car accident, the police call your wife, you arrive at emergency at the same time, you being unconscious, the niurse removes your outer clothing to reveal a teddy, panties and pantyhose. Let's see you explain your way out of that one.
Needless to say the best way to sum it all up is "whatever it takes to meet your wants and needs"

Warmest regards,

Michelle Renee
Ottawa

Sam-antha
04-23-2007, 08:15 AM
Because its fun, its the other me and it would be such a waste if the other me never got to show her clothes to the outside world.
Ffor those who lack the confidence, just give it a try, you will find that you have more confidence in yourself (and all that is) after your first trip outside.
~Samm