Are we really crossdressing?

[stellatoo]

Hello Ladies,

I was thinking for the past few days that crossdressing may not exist.:shocked:
Why?
Well if you consider that men in certain societies wear kilts or sarongs and these are just like skirts how is that crossdressing? I.e "wearing clothes of the opposite sex".
Robes/kimonoes that some men wear are akin to dresses.
Blouses are just shirts with the buttons on the other side.
T-shirts are t-shirts! they just come in different styles.
Shoes can be got for men with heels and straps. I have a pair of unisex shoes myself that I wear to work.
Panties are just underwear-men can get similar.
Camisoles are vests by another name.
Make up was long the province of the male of the species:D

The only garment specifically designed for women is the bra, everything else has a place/similar item with men!

Of course the range of colours, materials, and styles varies considerably but there's not a lot of difference.

So does this change your view of your little "hobby" or am I completly up the wrong tree with my panties on display?


Personally it doesn't stop me enjoying the difference between male and female clothes.

Your opinions are welcome


Stella

[marie354]

How come in humans, the female is the prettier? Ever see a male peacock?
Most animals, the male is the "fairer" sex.
Why are we different?

[Karren H]

Talk like that could get you kicked out of the club!! Hehe

If you don't want to think of it as crossdressing then that's cool... Anyone that sees you may beg to differ... So call it what you like.... I just call it fun!!

:D

Love Karren

[gaby818]

Well the idea is, that certain "things" that you mentioned have become acceptable/semi acceptable based on the culture and community of men. However, what we are doing is not something that is socially acceptable of men.
Take make up for example. it could be socially acceptable for a man to pluck his eyebrows to prevent unibrow. likewise it could be acceptable to slap a little foundation on to cover a zit. In Hollywood they go a little but further, but thats solely for the camera. but it is not socially acceptable of a man to go all out and put on make up like a woman.
Its ok to wear a kilt in scotland, and even in america if your scottish (or at least it should be). but not a skirt.
The main point is, the reason why we do what we do is because we want to achieve that fully effeminate feauture.

[Tina B.]

Is not a rose by any other name as sweet, but if you put it on your skirt you are crossdressing!
Tina B.

[Michelle 51]

I think it's crossdressing.You can buy men's brief's that resemble pantie's in style and material but it's not the same and i would never wear a kilt but a short skirt with hose get out of my way.and what about a pair of high heel's clicking when you walk.There's nothing in the men's dept. that even comes close to those. Sorry Stella dear no sale here. Justabit

[Kate Simmons]

I wonder about that sometimes myself, Stella. After all, what is the REAL big deal? Think I'll need a six pack of Duff Beer to contemplate that some more---D'oh!:heehee:

[susie evans]

call it what you like womens clothes are more comfee than men's :heehee:

susie

[Carin's Wife GG]

that is just one facet of the practice of crossdressing, IMO. The spectrum is surely varied and very long. I think that most of the members here would agree that the wearing of the clothing is the outward manifestation of mixed gender (or complete opposite gender, depending where on the spectrum one feels).

Not to say society shouldn't be more acepting. I am all for that. It would make many peole's lives so much more pleasant and easier.



Louise.

[Deanna2]

I don't consider myself a crossdresser because the clothes I wear are my clothes. I find clothes designed for women are much nicer to wear. The materials are softer and brighter and the range of styles is much greater.

Femme gear is more colorful and male gear is ----- well, drab.

[Alex!]

I am a man dressing in women's clothing once in a grand while. According to the society I live in, this is crossdressing. I'm fine with that. No need to overcomplify :)

[EricaCD]

Make no mistake about it, in my case: I specifically desire and need to dress in female clothes, with the specific purpose of presenting an appearance and deportment that is as close to a genetic woman's as I can manage. If a garment is robe-like, kilt-like or otherwise susceptible of misinterpretation as male attire, I am not interested.

So yes, in my case at least I think it's crossdressing...

Erica

[Rachel Morley]

I'm not sure I totally agree with you, but I do totally understand you. I do agree that in it's literal sense a bra is probably the only item of women's clothes that would be crossdressing ....BUT ..... that's if you are thinking in (what I would consider to be a more typically masculine way) that everything has to have form, function and purpose. Things don't always work that way. This is why IMHO trying to justify yourself to an unaccepting SO by saying women wear pants, so why can't I dress en femme don't always work. There are other dynamics going within crossdressing.

For me, dressing in women's clothes is not just about the clothes, its' so much more than that, (I agree with Louise) it's about gender expression and feelings of femininity from within wanting to be represented on the outside ..... and then some! :eek:

[Mariah]

like to point out (depending on where in the world you talk about*) nearly all cloths started on men. makeup was on men. dress? men. pants did not come into been untell nearly the renassonce time.

cross dressing? na I just want to ware pritty cloths *^_^*

hopes to you all
keris

*some information in this post my be off due to 2leders of jack and coke.

[Satrana]

Or you could always consider what happened when women took over masculine wear and redefine it as unisex, then it would not be crossdressing anymore. The unisex revolution of the 80s and 90s was really a one-way street, there were no feminine clothes that men appropriated, but nothing wrong with your suggestion to consider all feminine clothes as unisex because as you pointed out in other cultures this is sometimes true.

[Angie G]

I'm with Karren I call it ''FUN'' :hugs:
angie

[Carin's Wife GG]

Or you could always consider what happened when women took over masculine wear and redefine it as unisex, then it would not be crossdressing anymore. The unisex revolution of the 80s and 90s was really a one-way street, there were no feminine clothes that men appropriated, but nothing wrong with your suggestion to consider all feminine clothes as unisex because as you pointed out in other cultures this is sometimes true.

At least among the young men I know through my older boys. Longer hair, held back with girl's headbands, pink as a color considered quite *in* for boys right now. I think the young men of today are way more secure in their sense of themselves that self expression once thought as feminine is more likely.



Louise.

[Jackie-Ann]

Well the idea is, that certain "things" that you mentioned have become acceptable/semi acceptable based on the culture and community of men. However, what we are doing is not something that is socially acceptable of men.
Take make up for example. it could be socially acceptable for a man to pluck his eyebrows to prevent unibrow. likewise it could be acceptable to slap a little foundation on to cover a zit. In Hollywood they go a little but further, but thats solely for the camera. but it is not socially acceptable of a man to go all out and put on make up like a woman.
Its ok to wear a kilt in scotland, and even in america if your scottish (or at least it should be). but not a skirt.
The main point is, the reason why we do what we do is because we want to achieve that fully effeminate feauture.

If it wasn't for this man's dominated society with all the conflits, wars and violence. I'll live totally comfortably as a girl. I enjoy everything related to womenhood :be:

[Dixie]

YES!:2c: