View Full Version : Some of my adventures: Hooters girl, wedding dress, Victoria's Secret, Prom dress..
pinkpantyhose
05-20-2007, 07:47 PM
I've been posting these over at the sissyschool.com message board, but thought I'd post them here also.
Hello everyone, this is my first post here though I have been reading here for a while. Through an act of luck due to an online purchase, I have met and now submitted myself to a Mistress who has assigned me some very humiliating tasks. She is giving me 30 days to complete as many of these tasks as i can, and she wants me to document everything here and to get advice from some of you girls (and dare i say Mistresses) who may have done some of these things. Mistress has told me that i must prove that i have accomplished these things through voice recordings, photos, and scans of receipts, etc. which i will post here.
Here are my 30 tasks:
Workout in glossy suntan pantyhose and slouch socks with pink leotard OR pink shorts and pink tank-top in a public gym.
Buy complete cheerleader outfit and wear it in a shopping mall.
Go to Starbucks in elegant evening clothes with heels with lots of glossy lipstick, order a TALL coffee, sit inside, and drink it all there before leaving.
Try on at least 5 different bras in your size at Victoria's Secret.
Get a salesperson to help you be tied in a corset at Fredericks of Hollywood.
Buy a bra with cup size DD or bigger and some tight feminine top to wear with it. Fill the cups with pantyhose stuffed with birdseed, it and wear it through a mall.
Get your photo taken at the mall in heels, embellished jeans, and a low-cut top without a wig or makeup of any kind.
Get a massage. When on the table, leave on a pink bra, pink panties, and thigh-high stockings.
Try on thigh-high boots. You will probably only find these at an adult fetish store. Be sure to wear a short skirt and pantyhose or fishnets to the store.
Wear 40 pairs of pantyhose (rainbow colors) at the same time
Go ice skating in a girls (womens') skirted uniform, tights, and skates, OR go roller skating in roller-derby girls' outfit
Watch a movie in a theater en femme - during the middle of the movie, put on lipstick in bathroom from your purse, and if the theater sells pickles, buy one and suck it seductively through the entire movie. You must not eat the pickle until the credits start rolling and you must finish the pickle before you leave. Be sure to sit in the middle of the theater so people have to walk past you.
Wear 1 entire lipstick followed by 1 entire lip gloss
At a steakhouse, order a (large) salad for your meal. You will be wearing a cocktail dress, preferably red or black, with sequins, pantyhose, and heels. You are to ask for the wine menu, but then say you forgot you can't have anything alcoholic as you're pregnant. While waiting for your order, have baby names book or book for expectant mothers to read while waiting for your food.
You are to buy some makeup, open and use some, then attempt to return it (used) saying you didn't like the shade
Find a girl or group of girls in the food court of a mall. Offer to pay her to help you select some modern Junior fashion skirts, tops, and/or dresses.
Try on 3 or more 1-piece swimsuits at a swimwear store
Go swimming in your new swimsuit at a public pool or waterpark, ride a slide, surf the wavepool.
Purchase a Hooters girl outfit. Eat at Hooters wearing your new Hooters uniform. You are to call them first to ask if they allow crossdressers to eat there, and then specifically ask if it's okay if you eat there wearing the Hooters uniform.
Take a dance class where you will be wearing some type of female dance uniform - gymnastics or cheerleading classes are also okay.
Go to a jewelry store in non-obvious girl jeans and top. Ask to see the engagement rings. Try on the most expensive diamond solitaire they have and then say "oh, my head's in the clouds. My boyfriend can't afford that." Then try on cheaper solitaires.
Go to a maternity store. Tell them you are 4 mos pregnant and ask how products are sized. Register with the store for coupons. Try on at least 5 tops and buy at least 2.
Go to a bridal store. Tell them you are engaged and would like to try on some wedding dresses. While there you are to register with them, try on at least 2 dresses complete with bra and petticoat, and veil or tiara.
Similarly, try on a Quinceanera dress. Tell the salesperson how you never forgave your parents for not letting you celebrate your quinceanera when you were younger and now you are throwing your own party to celebrate your becoming a woman.
Pretty soon, prom dresses will be on clearance. Try on at least 4 at a major department store. Purchase 1.
Get your belly button pierced.
Get a French pedicure with rhinestones or flower embellishments
Go to a drug store while wearing your new maternity clothes. Ask for help finding something for your terrible morning sickness and for prenatal vitamins. Go to purchase something along with some maxi pads, but then tell the sales clerk "Oops! i don't need these - i'm so silly! i'm pregnant! No period for 5 more months!"
Find out prices and call to get information on ALL of the following: Make it clear that you are getting this information for yourself.
- breast pumps
- estrogen replacement therapy after your menopause
- an IUD
- ultrasound and photography
- breast cancer check/mammogram
- pap smear
- umbilical cord blood storage
- bikini wax
- clit piercing
- makeover/facial
Attend a community college or university class the first day of a summer term. Find a class that is very large. Hopefully when the professor calls roll some girl will not be there and s/he will repeat her name. If this happens, raise your hand frantically and shout "Oh, that's me! I'm here!"
DanaJ
05-20-2007, 07:54 PM
Many of these depend on others who are doing their jobs, and are trying to make a living - which does not include playing into your fantasies. It isn't right to try to drag other people into something to get you off on....
pinkpantyhose
05-20-2007, 07:55 PM
I tried several places to get a cheerleader outfit. Mistress wanted me to buy one in a store, not online. So I tried 2 dance places (none available). The second one recommended a cheerleader supply store in another city, so I drove over there and went in. It was in an industrial area and I had trouble finding it. I went in and no one was there and I saw they had a small single rack with gymnastics wear and 2 cheerleader uniforms with some accessories on a shelf. I looked at the sizes in anticipation -- but sadly they were both way too small for me. An older lady came out and said "oh, I didn't hear you come in. Are you looking for something?" and raised an eyebrow. I told her that yes, I was looking for a cheerleader outfit for a "play." She nodded and smirked and said, "is it for you?" I nodded sheepishly. She told me they had to special order them and it would take about 2-4 weeks. I told her the play was next weekend and needed one sooner. She recommended I try a costume store. So I went there, they didn't have any. They said try an adult fetish store. So I went there, again, none. I did look to see if they had thigh-high boots there to complete assignment 9, but, no, they didn't (just knee-highs). The worker there was very attractive and she told me she had seen them at a place in the Asian Market district where she buys some of her outfits (turned out she was also a stripper). She gave me the address and off I went, but when I got there, they also didn't have any in my size. An Asian woman showed me a catalog and told me they could order 2 different ones but also it would take some time. I emailed Mistress and she told me I could do a school girl outfit instead of a cheerleader outfit. I had seen these at 2 places (adult fetish store and the Asian market store). So I went back to Encore in the Asian Market and bought my schoolgirl outfit. The lady would not let me try it on :( But it looked strecthy and it was size Large, so I took the gamble, and it worked, although the top was embarrasingly small and left most of my tummy bare.
Off to the mall! I drove up to the mall wearing my outfit. I wore white scrunch socks, women's tennis shoes, glossy suntan pantyhose, the green and red plaid miniskirt, ruffled white blouse, tie that matched the skirt, and bra with enhancers. I was very hesistant to go in the mall, so I tested the waters by taking a photo outside the mall, laying on a table outside the mall where no one was really around. I then walked over to the entrance where 2 girls who worked at the mall were smoking. They looked at me and one smiled, the other said "hi!" I said "hello," and started to nervously walk in. Then I stopped and asked them if they would take my picture as I was doing this for a dare. They said "Sure" and took it outside there. One said I shouldn't be so nervous because I looked great and the other said, "yeah! I'm jealous because you wear that skirt better than I could!" So I went in. It was busy and there was a worker in the mall sweeping around the entrance. I quickly snapped the picture of me in the mall and left to change tops. I decided to keep the skirt on because I liked it and had been complimented on it.
Assignment 2 completed. :)
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pinkpantyhose
05-20-2007, 07:56 PM
So I had to decide what to wear for evening clothes that a modern young woman would wear. I asked a salesperson at Dillards for her advice. She said mostly girls would wear a pair of dress jeans, and maybe a pretty top. She helped me select some Miss Me jeans that were stretchy and very close-fitting and a black blouse with beading. I wore a pair of silver sequinned heels to match the silver M on the back of the jeans, and Leggs Sheer Energy suntan pantyhose under the jeans.
Before entering, I reapplied my Maybelline Toasted Almond liptstick and applied over it LOTS of Victoria's Secret Very Sexy lip gloss in "hot pants." My lips felt awesome, like they were dripping sex.
Again, I hesitantly went toward Starbucks. I set the camera on an outside table, set the timer to snap the first photo of me going in. I ordered my tall (though I wondered if possibly Mistress wanted me to buy the biggest coffee, the Venti) coffee. The salesgirl didn't bat an eyelash or make any comments on my outfit. It was moderately busy and some guys over at a table kept making glances at me. I went into the bathroom while my coffee was being made and took some pictures of my outfit. I then drank it all there loving how my lip gloss stained my coffee cup. It was very embarassing as customers came in and looked my way, and I tried to finish it fast but it was very hot and I didn't want to burn my tongue. I switched from a table to a more comfortable sofa, and just decided to revel in the humiliation. I relaxed and asked a cute worker who was clearing another table to take my picture which she did.
Assignment #3 complete :)
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pinkpantyhose
05-20-2007, 07:57 PM
I was really looking forward to assignment #4 but wasn't sure I was going to be allowed to try on bras in the Victoria's Secret dressing room.
I went in and all the salesgirls were busy, so I looked at some of the bras. I had read online that they had some "bra trial boxes" and decided to ask if I could try them that way.
Finally I found an available salesgirl. She was a pretty Latina probably in her early 20s. I asked her if they still had the "bra trial boxes" and she said "yes, do you want to try some bras on?" without hesitating. Somewhat surprised, I said "can I?" She said "Of course. What size, and started walking toward the dressing room." I said "36B." She opened a drawer with tons of bras in it, all in my size. She asked "do you want to try them all on, or do you want to try a certain style?" I told her "I want to try push-ups and the new 100-way strapless convertible I saw your ad." She told me that they didn't have the new one yet in my size, but to check back in a few days, but that she recommended the Very Sexy Extreme Push Up the most, and selected that as well as 5 other push-ups.
She unlocked a dressing room and told me "have fun, and if you need anything, just press this light here and I'll be happy to help you with whatever you need, okay?"
I tried on 6 bras, taking pictures. One of the bras was missing the straps, and it didn't really work without them (I tried it). So, I decided to press the light/button and sure enough she came. I told her my dilemma almost forgetting I wasn't wearing my blouse. She looked at me in another bra and grinned. I'm sure I turned reddish. She apologized about the bra, "I'm so sorry I didn't even notice. I'll be right back!" And brought me another one with straps. This one turned out to be my favorite, and the one she recommended the most, the Very Sexy Extreme Push Up. It came with a pouch with different straps (clear ones I wore, regular inside as well as a backless strap). I couldn't believe I could have that much cleavage. I bought one of those bras and plan to buy more later. :)
Assignment 4 complete :)
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pinkpantyhose
05-20-2007, 07:58 PM
I really thought this would be an easy assignment, especially since I own close to 100 pairs of pantyhose.
I tried hard to wear all 40 pairs of pantyhose, but I was barely able to tolerate 26 pairs. My toes were aching tremendously and I could barely bend my legs. I couldn't even stand up. See photos of my attempt. I will try again another day now that I know how it feels, maybe I can. I just knew about the 20th pair that there was no way I could wear 40. I imagined my Mistress pushing me to do it, then forcimg me to wear more and that's how I made it to what I thought was 25, but actually ended up being 26 (I miscounted somewhere). I will leave more room in the toes next time and maybe it won't be so bad.
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Assignment 10 - incomplete :(
pinkpantyhose
05-20-2007, 07:59 PM
So I went to a swimsuit store in the mall. Again, I was doubting I would be allowed to try on lady's swimsuits there, but I had to try. A middle-aged woman greeted me asking if I was looking for a gift. I said, no, actually I was looking for a one-piece for myself. She said "oh" and came over to me. She asked what style I would like and I told her I wasn't sure. She asked, "something simple, something sexy, or something really girly?" and grinned. I told her, "I'm not sure, maybe I can try one of each?" She didn't say anything and walked over to a rack of blue one-pieces, said "Do you like this one? It's simple?" I said "yes." She asked what size. I said "probably size 12." She found a 12, put it in her arms, pointed out one of the mannequins in the window and said "is that one sexy enough?" It was a blue stringy one-piece with beads. I said "oh yes, I really like that one." She walked over to where they were and put one in her arms. She then walked over to the middle of the store and I followed her. She grabbed a floral one that was in a "slimming" area of the store and said "how's this for girly? It'll also help flatten that gut of yours." This was happening so fast, I just said "sure." She found my size then opened the dressing room, hung them in and said "Go ahead, but be sure to leave your panties on underneath" and actually chuckled.
I went in and snapped photos of the 3 suits.
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Assignment 17 complete!
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pinkpantyhose
05-20-2007, 07:59 PM
This assignment was definitely in my "most humilating" category (along with #11, 12, and 18). But it also seemed like it would require the most time so I started it first. I figured if I went through the trouble (and expense) of actually getting a Hooters outfit, I would be more likely to go through with it.
I knew I could buy an outfit on eBay, but again, Mistress wanted me to try to get one from a Hooters. I went to eat at Hooters in drab and asked the girl if I could buy an outfit. She said "no, we don't sell them, I'm sorry." I asked where she bought her pantyhose and what brand they were, she said "we buy them here in a vending machine. I'm not sure what brand they are." I asked if anyone could use the vending machine. She said no, it was in their break room. She said she could buy me some for me if I wanted and that they were $5. I gave her a $10 and asked for 2. She told me there were in 4 sizes. I asked for the third biggest. She brought me them. I tipped her well.
Same Hooters, different time, different waitress. "Oh, you want one for Halloween? Or..." (she realized it couldn't be for Halloween as it's May, LOL.) "I'm not sure if we can sell them, let me ask." Nope.
Different Hooters, different city, "No, we don't sell them to the public."
Another Hooters, same day, ordered dessert. "Well, only Hooters girls can buy them, but I can buy one for you if you really want one." Success! I ended up getting a white lycra top, orange shorts, scrunch socks, and pantyhose (again). I tipped her well and sweet-talked her into giving me an extra one of her name tags.
In my haste and excitement, when I got to the car, I realized I had no idea what size she got for me. She must have assumed it was for a girlfriend because I ended up with an XS top and an XS pair of shorts :( I thought there was no way I would fit in these. Fortunately for me, I was wrong! They did fit! I couldn't believe it, but they fit. The top was very stretchy and was very very tight but I didn't care. I had my full Hooters girl outfit!
Mistress asked me to call first, so I did. I asked if they allowed crossdressers to eat there. The girl said, "No, we don't serve crawfish anymore." I said "no, I was wondering if you allow crossdressers to eat there." She said, "oh, sure, I mean, everyone's welcome here. We don't discriminate." I asked "Even if I was wearing a Hooters girl outfit, would that be okay?" She said "That would be interesting." I said "Okay, see you in a bit."
Going to Hooters in my outfit was going to be very humiliating, especially since they knew already that some guy was coming in dressed like a Hooters girl. I went in, and it was very crowded. They were actually assigning tables (which is rare) and I had to wait while some guys actually pointed and laughed. I got seated at a booth and several Hooters girls walked by with different looks, some smiling. One said "You must have been the one who called me. You are very brave!" My waitress said "hi, Nikki, huh?" (reading my nametag). I nodded. She said, "Don't worry, you fit right in here with us." I laughed. I ordered cheese quesadillas. It took over 20 minutes for them to come. I asked Jenni (my waitress) if she would take my picture and she did. I asked if I could take one with her, she said "I have to clean some tables, but in a little bit I will, okay?" A very pretty blonde Hooters girl came and sat opposite from me in my booth and asked if she could take my picture with all the Hooters girls. I asked what they would do with the picture and she said "Oh, probably frame it and put it up somewhere." I declined and she tried to coerce me, but I really didn't want to be framed on the wall like this! She said "Well, you are very brave for doing this. I hope you win whatever you're getting for this dare." Jenni came back and asked a customer to take our picture which he did. On my way out, another Hooters girl stopped me and asked if she could take a picture of us on her cell phone just for her. She promised not to hang it in the store, so we took one and I took one with my camera (which came out a little blurry).
All in all this was a very humiliating but also very fun and exciting assignment. I still can't really believe I did it -- it's almost like a dream.
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Assignment 19 complete!
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pinkpantyhose
05-20-2007, 08:00 PM
I went into Zales wearing a paiir of tight blue Silver jeans that were plain along with a light blue and white cotton blouse. I wore a bra with no enhancers so it was barely noticable. I was greeted by an woman probably in her 60s and told her I was looking for engagement rings. She smiled and said "Oh how wonderful, who's the lucky girl?" I smiled and told her, "Well, I am." She said "What do you mean?" I didn't know what to say, but fortunately she said "Oh of course. So you are looking for solitaires?" I told her that I was and she met me at another counter. She showed me the different cuts, shapes: princess, round, marquis, square. I asked to try on most expensive one in the case. It was a 1 carat for $2499. (This was an outlet store). She let me try it. It didn't fit my ring finger. She said "it's a size 7. All our rings in the glass are size 7, try it on your pinky." So I did. I decided to have fun. I said "oh, it's so pretty! I'll be the envy of every girl in town." She laughed (perhaps nervously). I then said, "oh, you know, my head's in the clouds. My boyfriend can't afford that. He's a musician and they just don't get paid what they deserve, but you know what they say about musicians in bed." And we both laughed. This time she laughed longer. I then asked to try on the cheaper solitaires. I pretended I was really getting married and settled on 2 that I really liked in the $999 price. I asked if I could take a picture of the 2 so that "Sven" and I could decide which to buy. She said, "I'm not supposed to let you, but I will look the other way for a minute." She did and I took a quick picture.
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Assignment 21 complete!
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pinkpantyhose
05-20-2007, 08:01 PM
Of all my assignment so far, this has been the most fun!
I went into David's Bridal in girly short-shorts with embellished sequins, hose, bra, and blouse, was greeted immediately at the door by a salesperson. She said "Hi, how can I help you." I told her I was engaged and was looking for a wedding dress. Surprisingly, it was not very embarassing to admit this despite a few other customers (and salespeople) within earshot. She said, "Congratulations, have a seat." She asked me when the wedding was. I told her "Probably sometime in September." She asked if I wanted white or ivory. I told her "White" She asked if I wanted traditional or contemporary. I told her traditional. She showed me a catalog of dresses and got an idea for what I liked. She said they could order them and they would be in by September. I asked her if I could see what they had in the store and maybe try on a few. She said "of course you can! What size are you?" I told her "13, I think." She said that the dresses were size Misses and Womens, so I would be a 14 in Misses. She showed me the 14s and I selected 2 I really liked and she came back to me and said "Are you still looking, or are you ready for a room?" I told her I was ready to try them on. She lead me to a fitting room, and asked me what bra size I needed. I told her 36B. She hung the dresses outside the room and opened the door to it. She said, "Oh, we need to find your shoes. What size?" I told her 10. She told me to find a pair or two while she got my slip. I found a pair with a medium clear heel, open-toes, with big white bows on them. She returned with the slip. I asked her if that was also called a petticoat. She said, "yes! Most girls don't know what a petticoat is, so we just call them slips." She walked me back to the room she had opened, put the petticoat in, handed me the bra, and instructed me: "Okay, here's what you do, first, out on the shoes. Then the slip, because otherwise it's too hard to find your shoes cause you won't see your feet easily. The slip goes up to here..." and she pointed to a spot between my belly button and my breasts, "...and it zips in back. Then put on your bra. If you need another size, let me know because these run small. Then come on out and I'll help you into your dress. I closed the door, did as she instructed me, put on the shoes, the petticoat, the bra...didn't fit. Unsure, I took it off, put my blouse back on (without my bra), and stepped half-way out wearing the shoes, petticoat, and blouse still calling for Harmony. Another girl came and said "do you need a different size?" I told "yes, let me try the 38B." She brought it to me. Back inside, the 38B fit.
Again unsure, because the dress was outside the room hanging and I was inside wearing only the heels, petticoat, and bra, I decided I guess I was supposed to go out like this. I was completely covered, so I sheepishly did. No one was outside, so I got the dress, and put it inside and wore the first one. I snapped a picture. It didn't fit, it wouldn't zip in the back all the way. I stepped out loving the feeling of the dress and petticoat and the weight of the dress. Harmony said, "oh, you got it on all by yourself?" I told her I wasn't sure of the size. She tried to zip it and said, "You probably need a 14W, but do you like this dress? Take a look at yourself, you look beautiful." I did like it. She said "I'll go get you the other dress in a 14W so we can check sizing, okay?" She did. She helped me into it which was very enjoyable. It fit perfectly. She showed me some different sleeves and I selected some dainty ones. She asked me if I was going to wear a veil or tiara. I told her I wasn't sure, but wanted to see them. We tried a veil, but they didn't stick in my hair too well so we selected a gorgeous tiara. I felt like a princess when she placed it on my head. I looked at myself in the mirror and was enamored. I couldn't believe I was doing this and I felt so completely comfortable. I was unaware of other salespeople looking at me and smiling and other customers pretending not to notice. She encouraged me to walk up and down the hallway to make sure I liked how it felt and that I could dance in it. She showed me how to bundle up the train in back. I let it down and walked up and down reveling in the swishy sounds and the feeling of my stockinged legs against the soft petticoat and the gleaming tiara on my head as I watched myself in the mirrors.
I asked her to take a picture of me and she did. I changed back into my shorts and blouse, repacked the shoes and bra, thanked her and she gave me her card and told me about their sale ($50 off the dress, 15% off accessories if I buy by May 21). I registered with them and we talked briefly about my "wedding plans."
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Assignment 23 complete!
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Julogden
05-20-2007, 08:11 PM
You're apparently into humiliation, and the fact that your humiliation method of choice is enforced crossdressing doesn't mean that these postings of yours are appropriate here, in my opinion.
Did you even bother to look around here before posting?
Carol
Michaelle
05-20-2007, 08:24 PM
Hi Hon,
I would like to say that as far as #7, go to Glamour Shots. The people there are friendly, and do not make fun of you.
For #9, I have gone into stores as a male and tried on boots. Most of the sales people do not care if they know you are serious about buying a pair. I have also gone dressed, and had no trouble.
For#16, I am no young girl, but I would like to try asking young girls to help me. I also had the experience of asking clerks to help.
For#4, I did not go to VS, but I did go to a large dept. store and asked the clerk for help.
For#19, I went into a restaurant, but it was Halloween, and asked if I could eat in drag. I told them I was to eat my meal in drag, get a receipt, and my girlfriend would pay for it. No problem.
For #23, I was IN HEAVEN! I tried to get the sales people to allow me to try on gowns while I was there. They didn't mind, but the manager was against it. It would hurt business if a customer saw me trying on a gown, and I had no place to do it. I went to David's and J.C. Penny's. I solved the problem and bought them through the catalog. I also got around it by going to a second hand store. I tried on the gowns in the fitting room and came out and asked for advise, help, etc. I LOVED IT!
For#25, the same as above.
I hope that I have given you some help. I had such a great time when I did all this. It was such fun.
You have made a choice of a mistress to lead you. If you follow these tasks, you should be ready to be a "lady"!:love:
ashleyinwpb
05-20-2007, 08:26 PM
I can't stand reading this stuff...I hate to be judgemental...but we all complain about people not accepting Crossdressers and then we are subject to read this junk about you wearing a DD bra through the mall..or wearing a Hooters uniform...you should be ashamed. I know there are ohters that agree and we as a community should start ostricizing these people. Regards,Ashley
Tina Dixon
05-20-2007, 08:35 PM
Good grief what a strange post, what won't your Mistress let you show your face on a CD site? and you just come on to the site and start with this kind of thread, god there must be some wheres else you can post this junk.
er i think you are at the wrong web site
marie354
05-20-2007, 08:42 PM
Is this like a frat thing?
I don't think that it belongs here at all.
We are serious about this kind of thing.
Sharon
05-20-2007, 08:43 PM
This community is made up of a whole lot of different people with different desires, different motivations, and different perspectives. Let's respect those who are not the same as we are, if for no other reason than it is our differences that make the forum (as well as the world as a whole) interesting. After all, this place would be awful boring if everyone shared the same stories all the time.
So, to make it short and sweet, let's have a little tolerance and respect for one another.
EricaCD
05-20-2007, 08:45 PM
Far be it from me to judge other people's personal tastes. Into public humiliation? OK. Your humiliation is to manifest itself through crossdressing? Your business.
On the other hand, this forum is by and large for and about people learning to claim - and demand - their dignity and self-respect as crossdressers notwithstanding horrible social pressures and taboos that would leave us closeted, ostracized or worse. If you had troubled yourself to do some reading here, you probably would have learned that making a public joke of crossdressing would rub most of the people here the wrong way.
Oh...and if item number 31 on your list was "brag to a bunch of crossdressers about public activities that would make it harder for the rest of them to gain honest acceptance", then well done and you and your mistress should both jump in a lake.
Erica
marie354
05-20-2007, 08:47 PM
It sure looks like this was just a frat prank to me!
Can anyone close this and barr them!
If it was serious they would have shown their face!
Toyah
05-20-2007, 08:47 PM
[quote=pinkpantyhose;870866]I was really looking forward to assignment #4 but wasn't sure I was going to be allowed to try on bras in the Victoria's Secret dressing room.
I went in and all the salesgirls were busy, so I looked at some of the bras. I had read online that they had some "bra trial boxes" and decided to ask if I could try them that way.
Finally I found an available salesgirl. She was a pretty Latina probably in her early 20s. I asked her if they still had the "bra trial boxes" and she said "yes, do you want to try some bras on?" without hesitating. Somewhat surprised, I said "can I?" She said "Of course. What size, and started walking toward the dressing room." I said "36B." She opened a drawer with tons of bras in it, all in my size. She asked "do you want to try them all on, or do you want to try a certain style?" I told her "I want to try push-ups and the new 100-way strapless convertible I saw your ad." She told me that they didn't have the new one yet in my size, but to check back in a few days, but that she recommended the Very Sexy Extreme Push Up the most, and selected that as well as 5 other push-ups.
She unlocked a dressing room and told me "have fun, and if you need anything, just press this light here and I'll be happy to help you with whatever you need, okay?"
I tried on 6 bras, taking pictures. One of the bras was missing the straps, and it didn't really work without them (I tried it). So, I decided to press the light/button and sure enough she came. I told her my dilemma almost forgetting I wasn't wearing my blouse. She looked at me in another bra and grinned. I'm sure I turned reddish. She apologized about the bra, "I'm so sorry I didn't even notice. I'll be right back!" And brought me another one with straps. This one turned out to be my favorite, and the one she recommended the most, the Very Sexy Extreme Push Up. It came with a pouch with different straps (clear ones I wore, regular inside as well as a backless strap). I couldn't believe I could have that much cleavage. I bought one of those bras and plan to buy more later. :)
Assignment 4 complete :)
See photos here: http://picasaweb.google.com/pinkpantyhose/Assignments?authkey=KW8gCJ7u7F0
Sorry hairy armpits EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
Seville
05-20-2007, 08:49 PM
Please go back to SissyPants or SissySchool, whatever.
Thats NOT who we are in this forum.
I personally am repulsed by your post, even the little that I read.
marie354
05-20-2007, 08:53 PM
Actually we should thank them.........
We all need to flame on a prankster once in a while... Let off a little steam...
Check their on-line status... They're gone! (Thank GOD!)
:hugs:
Sharon
05-20-2007, 08:53 PM
I have to say that I am very sad to see the intolerance being shown here.
Can I identify with the author of this thread? No.
Do I find this whole humiliation thing disturbing and insulting to other crossdressers? Yes
BUT -- there are no rules being broken here and..., well, let's just say that to each their own, huh?
marie354
05-20-2007, 08:56 PM
Really we should all shut up.... This is exactly the reaction that HE wants.
ashleyinwpb
05-20-2007, 08:59 PM
I have to say that I am very sad to see the intolerance being shown here.
Can I identify with the author of this thread? No.
Do I find this whole humiliation thing disturbing and insulting to other crossdressers? Yes
BUT -- there are no rules being broken here and..., well, let's just say that to each their own, huh?
I understand your feelings, but on the otherhand people like this set us back...imagine some of the poor girls that were tolerent but were probabaly pretty skeeved out afterwards... the one thing I like about this site is the dignity the girls show in their dressing; being a part of it has helped me to become a better girl and be more responsible for the community. Regards, Ash
Sharon
05-20-2007, 09:03 PM
I understand your feelings, but on the otherhand people like this set us back...imagine some of the poor girls that were tolerent but were probabaly pretty skeeved out afterwards... the one thing I like about this site is the dignity the girls show in their dressing; being a part of it has helped me to become a better girl and be more responsible for the community. Regards, Ash
Where do we draw the line to what is acceptable here then? We have many members who identify themselves as "sissy," do we ban all of them also just because they are in a minority in this forum? Is it just the great detail in this thread that upsets you? If so, then. once again, where do we draw the line?
ashleyinwpb
05-20-2007, 09:11 PM
Where do we draw the line to what is acceptable here then? We have many members who identify themselves as "sissy," do we ban all of them also just because they are in a minority in this forum? It is just the great detail in this thread that upsets you? If so, then. once again, where do we draw the line?
I again understand but the difference between being a sissy and this is the general aspect without definition of being grouped in the crossdress genre is, we each have a degree of responsibility to help the public become more understanding and its not by freaking out the kids and moms at the mall while wearing Britney Spears wannabe outfit dressing in DD bras. The line between perv and crossdresser tends to get blurry when this happens..maybe ten years from now it'll be fine but not now. Regards, Ash
well i like the hooters outfit were did you get it ?
ashleyinwpb
05-20-2007, 09:16 PM
it was in the story with the hooters outfit picture
QUOTE :- it was in the story with the hooters outfit picture
ok let me get my glasses sorry ... and thanks
Daintre
05-20-2007, 09:23 PM
I find threads like this very disturbing, I have to agree with Sharon though, he has not violated any rules, what has been posted is in very poor taste and personally, I am offended by it. Now that I have responded to this thread, I shall not bother with it anymore and move on to more palatable threads.
Cindyloo
05-20-2007, 09:32 PM
Your in the wrong place Dude.
Julogden
05-20-2007, 09:36 PM
Where do we draw the line to what is acceptable here then? We have many members who identify themselves as "sissy," do we ban all of them also just because they are in a minority in this forum? Is it just the great detail in this thread that upsets you? If so, then. once again, where do we draw the line?
One of the things that really annoys me about this thread is that, in my opinion, the OP is not a crossdresser. He's a fetishist who is getting off on being publicly humiliated, the crossdressing is just something that his "mistress" uses to humiliate him.
I really feel that this thread doesn't belong here.
Carol
EricaCD
05-20-2007, 09:45 PM
I have to say that I am very sad to see the intolerance being shown here.
Can I identify with the author of this thread? No.
Do I find this whole humiliation thing disturbing and insulting to other crossdressers? Yes
BUT -- there are no rules being broken here and..., well, let's just say that to each their own, huh?
I'm going to do something I have never done here, and disagree with a moderator. (Well, there's a first time for everything.)
I'm also going to partly hijack this thread because (1) it appears that the poster has moved on and (2) Sharon raises a really interesting question about the meaning of "tolerance" within this community.
As you could see from what I wrote, I agree it's not our business to disparage the personal tastes of another person - irrespective of how unorthodox those tastes might be. I would have been very disappointed if the responders had disparaged the poster for wanting to be sissified or humiliated...but nobody did. Most responders, myself included, indicated that they disapproved of this particular form of public activity as degrading to crossdressers generally. And that's it.
I disagree with your implication that the only cutoff for disapproval is at the point where this forum's rules are being broken. That's plainly not true (and I think, in one of your subsequent posts, you do not continue to advance that argument). Like it or not, this forum DOES have a general tenor. It is generally hetero, generally monogamous, and generally "mainstream" - if such a word can be used with a straight face in the transgender community. And given the overwhelming weight of opinion on the subject of de-marginalizing ourselves as a community, I don't think anyone should be afraid to express their disapproval of an activity that runs counter to that goal.
Yes, perhaps our tenor does lead to a little bit of blandness. And you (Sharon) are right to worry about untrammeled insistence as to conformity with any norm! But a great many of us are here precisely because of that little bit of blandness. The internet is chock full with TG oriented sites that cater to every kink and perversion that human ingenuity can devise. Most of us have found only a small handful of places that blend a little bit of kink and a great deal of support, sensible advice and stability. The moderators here should be proud of what they - what YOU - help to create. And if that means a little unintended marginalizing at the fringes of our own community...well. Let's just pray that everyone takes a deep breath before writing in response to a thread like this, and tries to remember that the poster is a person too.
OK I am done. Flame away. If people want to get really nasty, go ahead and PM me.
Erica
Sharon
05-20-2007, 09:53 PM
OK I am done. Flame away. If people want to get really nasty, go ahead and PM me.
Erica
It is flaming that I am attempting to avoid here. That and the aforementioned intolerance of people different than you or I.
Remember, outside this forum, out in the "real" world, what you and I do is considered a perversion by many people, an affront to society's norms and even the work of the devil himself. People hate me because I am a transsexual and because of my sexuality, but it saddens me that this attitude towards people with different lifestyles are treated so harshly here.
And do you realize that this thread would already be buried if members quit replying to it? :straightface:
Tina Dixon
05-20-2007, 09:59 PM
Erica I don't think you'll get flamed, it is a forum and you had your say and you said it very well, as for this site being bland or maybe a bit tame your so right, and as far as this newbie posting this stuff, well It may not have broke any rules but it sure don't seem to belong here does it, just seems so out of content to what goes on around here that don't sit well with some of us and being a forum were just telling our side.
pinkpantyhose
05-20-2007, 10:00 PM
I went to Dillards to look at Prom dresses. I went in wearing a red blouse and red and green plaid schoolgirl skirt (from assignment 2) with suntan glossy pantyhose. I started looking at the clearance Prom dress racks in the Junior department. I found 4 I liked and in my size and asked a drop-dead gorgeous salesgirl with some of the sexiest pantyhosed legs I have ever seen if I could try on the dresses I had. She said "Sure, right over there" and pointed to a dressing room in the same department "...or if that one's full, you can go over there" and pointed across the department. I went into the first one, and found an empty room (there were other girls there too) and tried on my 4 dresses snapping pictures of 3 (the fourth one is the one I bought, and I will show it in another assignment).
On the way out, there was a middle-aged woman with a gold Dillards name tag (I guess she was the store manager?) who stopped me "Sir!" She said "You will have to try on your dresses in the mens' department." I said "I'm sorry, but I did ask..." She interrupted, "Absolutely not in the ladies' rooms." I again apologized, reiterating "I did ask a salesgirl and she said I could here." I hung the 3 dresses I wasn't going to buy back on the rack and I saw her talking to the salesgirls. She left. I went to buy my dress and the girl who rang me up was the same drop-dead gorgeous one from before and she said "I'm so sorry, I'm so so sorry." I told her it was no big deal, not to worry. I told her I loved the shade of pantyhose she was wearing and asked her if she remembered what brand they were. She said, "Thank-you, I don't remember, umm... But I know I got them here."
http://lh4.google.com/image/pinkpantyhose/Rk9Q5GzcEMI/AAAAAAAACnY/XNFEix9BSEI/s800/dare2503.jpg
Assignment 25 complete!
See more photos here: http://picasaweb.google.com/pinkpantyhose/Assignments?authkey=KW8gCJ7u7F0
pinkpantyhose
05-20-2007, 10:01 PM
Having just reread my memory of these assignments, even I find it unbelievable, but it is 100% true. I am amazed that this actually happened still, but here it is....
While at the mall, with intent to complete assignment 16, I ended up completing assignment 27 at the same time.
I was wearing my red and green plaid miniskirt, suntan glossy pantyhose, and a red blouse and bra with enhancers. I went to the food court about lunchtime and it was fairly busy. There were a group of 3 college-aged young women sitting together, one Asian and 2 Caucasians. I had gathered up the nerve to ask if I could join them while I drank a Chick-fil-A shake. The Asian girl eyed me suspiciously but one of the Caucasians said "sure" and patted the seat next to her. I sat and we made small talk. I asked Amy, the girl who invited me to sit with them if I she wouldn't mind shopping with me to help me select some more modern and hip clothes. I told her jokingly "this skirt makes me look too much like a schoolgirl." They all laughed. She said "I don't know." I said, "I'll even pay you, come on, help a girl out." She kinda looked at Rhonda (the other Caucasian) and she said "We actually have to get going. We have to get back to work. I'm not sure if she was making that up or not, but I said, "okay, thanks for letting me join you." They left shortly later.
I decided to order some fries (can't resist those waffle fries) and I sat down to eat them by myself. Then she just came to me. She was beautiful, slender, wearing ripped short shorts and a blue v-neck top. She smiled broadly at me as she came up to me and sat down and introduced herself with her hand out. "Hi, I'm Courtney." I'm sure it must have taken me a moment to reply because I was dumbfounded. "Hi, how are you?" "Cute outfit" she replied. "Thanks." We got to talking for a while there. Turns out she's into guys who crossdress, "I used to dress up my ex-boyfriends, but my husband never let me." Darn, she's married. Soon after this, I told her I was actually doing an assignment for a Mistress I met online and explained what I needed to do. She eagerly agreed to help me. "My husband doesn't come home until after 5, so we have some time. What else is on your list?" I showed her. She said she needed a pedicure and asked if that could be her "payment" for helping me. I eagerly agreed and she suggested we get matching pedicures within Mistress' parameters.
We went shopping at a few stores. I was totally awe-struck by the genuine friendliness of this girl. I could not believe how lucky I was and was honestly wondering if she was somehow trying to scam me or something, but I just went with it. We bought a pair of very high heels at a shoe store, a pair of Baby Phat Goddess jeans, and a few tops.
We went to the nail salon in the mall, and I let her do the talking. She had been before and I guess knew some of the employees. We ended up getting seats next to each other while 2 girls did our matching pedicures, French with rhinestones on the big toenails. She was ticklish and laughed so much when they sanded each heel.
We sat under the dryer reading teen magazines and talking about celebrities while still wearing our toe spreaders and foam shoes. Eventually they were done and looked gorgeous.
I thanked Courtney so much for everything and paid for our pedicures and tipped the girls. She thanked me, and then the even more unbelievable happened. She invited me to her house for "milk and cookies." Of course I accepted and followed her home. We did eat Chips Ahoy and milk, then she asked me how submissive I was, and asked if I was into feet. I told her I was very submissive and yes, I was (I really am!)
Without hesitation, she said "follow me." We went into her bedroom and she posed some for me allowing me to take pictures. She ordered me to massage her feet, then to suck and lick her feet and toes. She took some pictures of me as I did this. Time flew by and 5:00 was coming quickly, so I had to go before her husband came home. "He won't care. We have an open relationship, but I know it would be weird for you."
I got her email address and promised to keep in touch.
http://lh3.google.com/image/pinkpantyhose/Rk9Q02zcEHI/AAAAAAAACmw/Q8iCoUFRQ9M/s800/dare2701.jpg
Assignments 16 & 27 Complete :)
See more photos here: http://picasaweb.google.com/pinkpantyhose/Assignments?authkey=KW8gCJ7u7F0
Karren H
05-20-2007, 10:03 PM
And I thought slavery was abolished by Abe in 1860's.... guess you didn't get the memo... hehehe
At least wearing womens jeans wasn't on the list!!! Whew.... dodged the big bullet on that one.....
Love Karren
Michelle (Oz)
05-20-2007, 10:04 PM
Your task is a difficult one Sharon. Keeper of the peace and preserver of standards. Clearly the original post falls into a grey area but one that I don't see as part of this group.
I distinquish between the group and the poster by way of motive. I'm here because I have feminine qualities that I like to fully express and I don't need to be forced to dress. It is the reward from the humiliation that the poster seeks (and is promised?) whereas for me the reward is in the dressing itself and participating in the community.
The grey area though is for those who have similar needs but who can't accept themselves in this way and must feel they are "forced" to dress to feel better about themselves. I could well understand that some in this group would feel this way but hopefully they will benefit from the positive experiences in the group to accept themselves.
I try my hardest when en femme to honour crossdressers by appearance, attitude and honesty. It is disappointing that the reaction to a negative image will far exceed that of a positive image setting our cause back.
Michelle (Oz)
Jammie Lyann
05-20-2007, 10:13 PM
ok PP just made 2 more post , dont think he stopped to read any of the treads before posting his last 2 threads,
I dont agree with anything this person was doing, but it is his right to enjoy
his life his way, but I think he could have done things alittle more tackful
from what I see looks like he was on a scavenger hunt,
Ivey
Sharon
05-20-2007, 10:14 PM
Pink,
If you don't find a way to calmly respond to the people who have relied to you in this thread, then I have no choice but to believe you are simply posting to attract such replies. This is considered trolling and the thread will be closed if you fail to take heed of my words.
pinkpantyhose
05-20-2007, 10:19 PM
Your task is a difficult one Sharon. Keeper of the peace and preserver of standards. Clearly the original post falls into a grey area but one that I don't see as part of this group.
I distinquish between the group and the poster by way of motive. I'm here because I have feminine qualities that I like to fully express and I don't need to be forced to dress. It is the reward from the humiliation that the poster seeks (and is promised?) whereas for me the reward is in the dressing itself and participating in the community.
The grey area though is for those who have similar needs but who can't accept themselves in this way and must feel they are "forced" to dress to feel better about themselves. I could well understand that some in this group would feel this way but hopefully they will benefit from the positive experiences in the group to accept themselves.
I try my hardest when en femme to honour crossdressers by appearance, attitude and honesty. It is disappointing that the reaction to a negative image will far exceed that of a positive image setting our cause back.
Michelle (Oz)
Whoa! I had no idea I would cause this kind of scare. If you haven't noticed, I have been registered on this site for 2 years. I have posted on this site before also (just not in a while).
I will comment more later but let me just say this for you to consider:
1) The reactions of the people I've encountered are mostly POSITIVE.
2) I am a crossdresser (isn't that the name of this site?), not a transvestic fetishist. I don't "get off" by dressing as a woman. I enjoy the attention it brings, even the "humiliation." This is an aspect of cross-dressing that is more real than you may think. Think about your own motivation for cross-dressing (if that is what you do versus transvestic fetishism or transgenderedism).
3) Cross-dressing is linked with submissiveness. I am submissive.
As I said I will write more later, but please be less judgmental about my motivations.
Thanks!
pinkpantyhose
05-20-2007, 10:23 PM
Pink,
If you don't find a way to calmly respond to the people who have relied to you in this thread, then I have no choice but to believe you are simply posting to attract such replies. This is considered trolling and the thread will be closed if you fail to take heed of my words.
I am sorry Sharon, I am not trying to "troll." I will stop posting my adventures here for now. I will reply to other comments later.
For now, :love:
pinkpantyhose
05-20-2007, 10:35 PM
Many of these depend on others who are doing their jobs, and are trying to make a living - which does not include playing into your fantasies. It isn't right to try to drag other people into something to get you off on....
Yes, many of these depend on others. Their jobs include helping customers. I am making purchases in some cases. For example, I bought a prom dress, I bought lunch at Hooters, I bought a bra at Victoria's Secret.
I'm not dragging anyone into something to get me off. I am a crossdresser, not a transvestic fetishist. I enjoy shopping, I enjoy the attention, and everyone I have encountered (except 1 Dillards manager) were completely cool so far.
pinkpantyhose
05-20-2007, 10:38 PM
You're apparently into humiliation, and the fact that your humiliation method of choice is enforced crossdressing doesn't mean that these postings of yours are appropriate here, in my opinion.
Did you even bother to look around here before posting?
Carol
How do you define humiliation?
To me the attention (if that's how you want to define it) is positive for me. What motivates someone to find a Mistress? Because it's enjoyable (positive) for the submissive.
It's "enforced" yes, but I enjoy it. Does that make it wrong? No. I crossdress whether I'm "forced" to or not.
Even so, how would that make it inappropriate?
And yes, I've been registered here for 2 years, so I've been around, trust me.
pinkpantyhose
05-20-2007, 10:39 PM
Hi Hon,
I would like to say that as far as #7, go to Glamour Shots. The people there are friendly, and do not make fun of you.
For #9, I have gone into stores as a male and tried on boots. Most of the sales people do not care if they know you are serious about buying a pair. I have also gone dressed, and had no trouble.
For#16, I am no young girl, but I would like to try asking young girls to help me. I also had the experience of asking clerks to help.
For#4, I did not go to VS, but I did go to a large dept. store and asked the clerk for help.
For#19, I went into a restaurant, but it was Halloween, and asked if I could eat in drag. I told them I was to eat my meal in drag, get a receipt, and my girlfriend would pay for it. No problem.
For #23, I was IN HEAVEN! I tried to get the sales people to allow me to try on gowns while I was there. They didn't mind, but the manager was against it. It would hurt business if a customer saw me trying on a gown, and I had no place to do it. I went to David's and J.C. Penny's. I solved the problem and bought them through the catalog. I also got around it by going to a second hand store. I tried on the gowns in the fitting room and came out and asked for advise, help, etc. I LOVED IT!
For#25, the same as above.
I hope that I have given you some help. I had such a great time when I did all this. It was such fun.
You have made a choice of a mistress to lead you. If you follow these tasks, you should be ready to be a "lady"!:love:
Thank-you so much for your comments. I will definitely look into Glamour Shots.
pinkpantyhose
05-20-2007, 10:41 PM
I can't stand reading this stuff...I hate to be judgemental...but we all complain about people not accepting Crossdressers and then we are subject to read this junk about you wearing a DD bra through the mall..or wearing a Hooters uniform...you should be ashamed. I know there are ohters that agree and we as a community should start ostricizing these people. Regards,Ashley
How is that "junk?" Real women (gg's if you prefer) want DD breasts for what reason? For the attention. Is it wrong for me to try to experience that? Not in my opinion.
The Hooters uniform was so much fun. I should be ashamed of what exactly?
And why precisely should I be ostricized? Do I sense a tinge of jealousy? Be honest...
pinkpantyhose
05-20-2007, 10:44 PM
Good grief what a strange post, what won't your Mistress let you show your face on a CD site? and you just come on to the site and start with this kind of thread, god there must be some wheres else you can post this junk.
She will let me I suppose, but I choose not to for personal reasons.
I didn't just come on the site and start with this thread. I've been registered here for 2 years and have posted before. It's not that hard to find my past posts if you want to.
And I posted this here to share my adventures and the responses of the public to me to perhaps encourage others to do things they've only dreamed about.
I guarantee you there are others who would love to do many (if not all) of the things I've done and will be doing.
pinkpantyhose
05-20-2007, 10:45 PM
er i think you are at the wrong web site
Why? I'm a crossdresser sharing my cross-dressing adventures with other cross-dressers? What's wrong?
pinkpantyhose
05-20-2007, 10:46 PM
Is this like a frat thing?
I don't think that it belongs here at all.
We are serious about this kind of thing.
Umm, no it's not a frat thing.
I'm sorry you don't think it belongs here.
I'm serious about this thing too.
Stephenie S
05-20-2007, 10:47 PM
I gotta go with Sharon on this one. We all want a little tolerance in this world, we should be able to show it to others. Do I like this stuff? NO. But that's not really the point, is it? If we only read what we liked, how boring would that be?
Lovies,
Steph
hi PINK
you have been a member since 2005 and only 14 posts , and now this .. i find it a bit of a shock , OK you had fun but there must have been a better way than this. and why not show your face you did every were else and please remember to respect the membership and one more thing i just love the hooters outfit
pinkpantyhose
05-20-2007, 10:56 PM
Far be it from me to judge other people's personal tastes. Into public humiliation? OK. Your humiliation is to manifest itself through crossdressing? Your business.
On the other hand, this forum is by and large for and about people learning to claim - and demand - their dignity and self-respect as crossdressers notwithstanding horrible social pressures and taboos that would leave us closeted, ostracized or worse. If you had troubled yourself to do some reading here, you probably would have learned that making a public joke of crossdressing would rub most of the people here the wrong way.
Oh...and if item number 31 on your list was "brag to a bunch of crossdressers about public activities that would make it harder for the rest of them to gain honest acceptance", then well done and you and your mistress should both jump in a lake.
Erica
I think the "horrible social pressure and taboos" are largely misconceptions at this point. I have progressed a LONG way in my 20+ years of crossdressing and now have relatively no qualms about this. That is how I am able to do these things.
My motivations are not to make a public joke. Rather, to 1) prove that I can do this, 2) prove that it's often a bigger deal for me than for the "public" 3) challenge my own perceptions about the acceptibility in the world with this. If you had bothered to read my stories, you would see this. As I've said, I've been registered here 2 years and have read here longer than that.
There is a law of diminishing returns with this too, but that's another discussion.
And you've offended me with #31. Am I being too bold by asking for an apology?
pinkpantyhose
05-20-2007, 10:59 PM
It sure looks like this was just a frat prank to me!
Can anyone close this and barr them!
If it was serious they would have shown their face!
Okay, why not ban everyone who has never shown their face on here too? :Angry3:
pinkpantyhose
05-20-2007, 11:02 PM
Really we should all shut up.... This is exactly the reaction that HE wants.
Umm, no, it's not. Really you should stop being so quick to judge. I'm submissive but not masochistic. I don't enjoy being ridiculed and not tolerated on a site that should theoretically be more open to this than others...
Way to ostracize :mad:
pinkpantyhose
05-20-2007, 11:06 PM
I again understand but the difference between being a sissy and this is the general aspect without definition of being grouped in the crossdress genre is, we each have a degree of responsibility to help the public become more understanding and its not by freaking out the kids and moms at the mall while wearing Britney Spears wannabe outfit dressing in DD bras. The line between perv and crossdresser tends to get blurry when this happens..maybe ten years from now it'll be fine but not now. Regards, Ash
Aah...maybe ten years from now is sooner than you think. Maybe the public is ready but we are not? Hmm...why not "test the waters" as I have. Soon we'll be more protected as a group than the elderly, the military, pregnant women, and many others.
pinkpantyhose
05-20-2007, 11:07 PM
Your in the wrong place Dude.
Why is that? Because I don't show my face or shave my armpits? How that make me less a crossdresser than you or anyone else here?
pinkpantyhose
05-20-2007, 11:09 PM
One of the things that really annoys me about this thread is that, in my opinion, the OP is not a crossdresser. He's a fetishist who is getting off on being publicly humiliated, the crossdressing is just something that his "mistress" uses to humiliate him.
I really feel that this thread doesn't belong here.
Carol
Your opinion is wrong. I am a crossdresser, been diagnosed so by 4 different therapists throughout the years. I've never been a transvestic fetishist.
Think about what motivates one to seek a mistress. To be "forced" to do things that deep inside that person already wants to do, right? Well for me that's what it is anyway.
pinkpantyhose
05-20-2007, 11:12 PM
Erica I don't think you'll get flamed, it is a forum and you had your say and you said it very well, as for this site being bland or maybe a bit tame your so right, and as far as this newbie posting this stuff, well It may not have broke any rules but it sure don't seem to belong here does it, just seems so out of content to what goes on around here that don't sit well with some of us and being a forum were just telling our side.
1) I'm not a newbie.
2) It's out of content how precisely?
pinkpantyhose
05-20-2007, 11:14 PM
And I thought slavery was abolished by Abe in 1860's.... guess you didn't get the memo... hehehe
At least wearing womens jeans wasn't on the list!!! Whew.... dodged the big bullet on that one.....
Love Karren
I actually did wear women's jeans for the Starbucks assignment. Miss Me jeans are awesome.
pinkpantyhose
05-20-2007, 11:19 PM
Your task is a difficult one Sharon. Keeper of the peace and preserver of standards. Clearly the original post falls into a grey area but one that I don't see as part of this group.
I distinquish between the group and the poster by way of motive. I'm here because I have feminine qualities that I like to fully express and I don't need to be forced to dress. It is the reward from the humiliation that the poster seeks (and is promised?) whereas for me the reward is in the dressing itself and participating in the community.
The grey area though is for those who have similar needs but who can't accept themselves in this way and must feel they are "forced" to dress to feel better about themselves. I could well understand that some in this group would feel this way but hopefully they will benefit from the positive experiences in the group to accept themselves.
I try my hardest when en femme to honour crossdressers by appearance, attitude and honesty. It is disappointing that the reaction to a negative image will far exceed that of a positive image setting our cause back.
Michelle (Oz)
Michelle, it seems to me as though you are more transgendered than crossdresser. I have no genuine desire to be a female. I am feminine and I am a male. I prefer to wear and enjoy wearing women's clothes. I am comfortable in the duality of these roles.
This blurring of the gender lines is what many in this TG/TV/TS/CD community struggle with. The TVs question the CDs for not enjoying the sexual aspect of it. The CDs can be repulsed by the thought that TVs "get off" on this. The TS folks dislike it when CDs and TVs want to retain their male gender or body hair or physical appearance. The TVs and TGs can be repulsed by those who try to live and pass as genetic women 24/7.
I'm a CD, not a TG/TV or TS. Seems I'm in the minority here though this is a CD site...hmm...
pinkpantyhose
05-20-2007, 11:22 PM
ok PP just made 2 more post , dont think he stopped to read any of the treads before posting his last 2 threads,
I dont agree with anything this person was doing, but it is his right to enjoy
his life his way, but I think he could have done things alittle more tackful
from what I see looks like he was on a scavenger hunt,
Ivey
How could I have been more tactful? I don't think I was being disparaging, rude, or disrespectful of anyone.
pinkpantyhose
05-20-2007, 11:27 PM
hi PINK
you have been a member since 2005 and only 14 posts , and now this .. i find it a bit of a shock , OK you had fun but there must have been a better way than this. and why not show your face you did every were else and please remember to respect the membership and one more thing i just love the hooters outfit
I have made many more than 14 posts, for some reason my post counter is wrong.
Is "shock" a bad thing?
What would have been "a better way"? Why?
I choose not to show my face for a personal reason.
I'm not trying to disrespect anyone, but forgive me if I have.
I love the Hooters outfit too :) Thanks. I would love to be a real Hooters girl for a day or two.
I have made many more than 14 posts, for some reason my post counter is wrong.
Is "shock" a bad thing?
forgive me but the members here try to portray a sense of dignity and respect for each other and try very hard to be a genuine as possible
What would have been "a better way"? Why?
well post in the picture gallery were only members can see them instead of the open public areas were this could discredit us all
I choose not to show my face for a personal reason.
but you were out in public like that so you should have nothing to hide
I'm not trying to disrespect anyone, but forgive me if I have.
i just want you to think about everyone who comes here to find out information what about the gg who husbands have come out to them the woman are hurting scared don't know what to do and the see your post what are they going to think and do you think they would stick around to find out !!!
I love the Hooters outfit too :) Thanks. I would love to be a real Hooters girl for a day or two.
you know i would too but there is a place and time for that and i respect the hooters girls for what they do , it's unfair that men go for dinner and a show thats just wrong ...
so you see please think before you post out of respect for the general public and the wives of cd'r who are hurting and want answers and the 100s of cd'r who try to show respect for what we do
hugs Marissa
crusadergirl
05-21-2007, 12:22 AM
I may be the only one here that liked this post i thought it was cool. I don't do that stuff but anyone who has the guts to do that i can respect. You shouldn't be so hard on her. Its something different which is good. Thats just what i think so don't get mad at me.
Could it be that Pinkpantyhose has actually done some things in public that most others only dream about. Lack of tolerance is why most of us are still deep in the closet.
IF Pinkpantyhose posted it in the picture gallery it would be fine not in the general public forum
please think about others .. wives who have just found out there man wears dresses ... what about there needs hurts fears ... something like this could do great harm thats all
pinkpantyhose
05-21-2007, 12:39 AM
IF Pinkpantyhose posted it in the picture gallery it would be fine not in the general public forum
please think about others .. wives who have just found out there man wears dresses ... what about there needs hurts fears ... something like this could do great harm thats all
You've mentioned wives finding out about their CD'ing husbands 2x now. Isn't it hypocritical to say that I'm being disrespectful to them by posting about my real adventures when their HUSBANDS have been disrespecting them by "just finding out" about something they have been too scared/nervous/ashamed/embarassed/negligent/stupid/disrespectful/arrogant/prideful to tell them umm...let's see...before they were married?
Tamara Croft
05-21-2007, 08:03 AM
I'm absolutely disgusted by the way you have treated a long standing member of this forum. Just because he hasn't posted much, you treat him like this for what? because he appears to be new? :Angry3: Each to their own, support one and other, live and let live.... but if you can't say something nice, then keep your mouth shut, there was simply no reason at all for spoiling someones thread, who was having a bit of fun. Is their no fun in your lives that you had to ruin someone elses?? My suggestion? Go get a life and leave others to their own.
I am so sorry pinkpantyhose that you have been subjected to this, one can only hope you don't lump us all into the same basket as those, that seem to be intollerant of others, when they want to be accepted by others who don't tollerate them...
Sharon
05-21-2007, 08:45 AM
This thread is now reopened, as it was locked against my wishes.
I trust everyone will behave in a mature manner and any further posts that I deem to be intolerant of other's lifestyles will themselves be removed.
Dixie
05-21-2007, 08:47 AM
Bravo Sharon:clap:
Kieron Andrew
05-21-2007, 08:49 AM
This thread is now reopened, as it was locked against my wishes.
I trust everyone will behave in a mature manner and any further posts that I deem to be intolerant of other's lifestyles will themselves be removed.
good call Sharon......just wondering though as this is a photo diary of sorts would it not be better in the photo section, only for that reason though:)
Dixie
05-21-2007, 08:51 AM
I can see that, Pink you got alot of nerve, wish I had that much.
Tamara Croft
05-21-2007, 08:53 AM
IF Pinkpantyhose posted it in the picture gallery it would be fine not in the general public forum
please think about others .. wives who have just found out there man wears dresses ... what about there needs hurts fears ... something like this could do great harm thats allWhy do you post your avatar for all to see then? what's the difference? All avatars are viewable in this section, all members can see all sections, including the picture gallery... if a wife became a member, what difference would it make where this was posted? And why are you of all people so intollerant of what he is doing? My guess, he's doing something many of you can only dream of doing, he's out there, doing what he wants, living a dream... whilst many of you stay closeted, intollerant and :censor:
I don't understand where any of you get 'doesn't belong here' crap from? Explain to me why it doesn't belong here, explain to me why a sub CD doesn't belong here... please, I'm at a loss...
Daintre
05-21-2007, 08:56 AM
I am glad to see that this thread is open again, Pink I wish you well.
Dixie
05-21-2007, 08:57 AM
Certainly glad I read it today it made my day!!! You go gurl!!
Stormgirl
05-21-2007, 09:00 AM
You're braver than me Pink.
just for the record here is my " pm " to pink this morning
pinkpantyhose
hi how are you, i am sorry about the way i treated you and your thread, i am also sorry that i have pre conceived ideas and stereotyping , you were having fun i wish you could show all of you i bet had a great smile on some of the photos i just love the hooters outfit .. but i am too fat to do the outfit justice and the swimsuit looks great i need one this year first time in a pool in 3 years due to transitioning anyway please forgive me all the best
Marissa
Hi Tamara the picture gallery is for members only as i understand it so anyone just looking around would not see this thats all ...
QUOTE :- My guess, he's doing something many of you can only dream of doing, he's out there, doing what he wants, living a dream... whilst many of you stay closeted, intolerant and
i can do the exact same thing if i wanted :rolleyes:... pink i am sorry
battybattybats
05-21-2007, 09:20 AM
Be yourself whatever that may be, so long as you respect the equal freedoms of others. That's the foundation of ethics so everyone try and keep your adventures ethical. Have fun.
kimberly_f37
05-21-2007, 10:02 AM
Sorry Sorry about being Rude Pinky !!
I have no excuse for what I have said!! Except for we are all here for being ourself and learnning from others CDer and GOD knows we all have been there WONDERINg how do we look in pix !!!
I have alot of pix of myself and I should go back and look at those and KICK MYSELF IN the ASSSSSSSSSSS for saying what I did!!!
Hair-- what a word that I hate from the get in go anyway! I think when GOD made men ( He or She ) gave us to much hair on a male body anyway and Yes I Hate seeing a hairy arm pit on both sexes and those haiy hairy chest that some men have EEeEEWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW..
So Pinky I Am SORRY !! :love: You Go Girl!!
Have A Great Day Girls!!
Ally K
05-21-2007, 10:09 AM
I think this post is fabulous! lol
PinkPantyHose is much braver than I would ever be! You go girl!
Tammietoo
05-21-2007, 10:24 AM
I'm really amazed at the wide variety of reponses that this thread evoked. I find it interesting as this is one of the first post where someone's "motives" for dressing were condemned or at the very least questioned. I always loved the fact that the girls here were supportive and understanding and at the very least tolerant. My only thought is that this does appear to be a photo essay of sorts and might be a better fit in the gallery section, but even that is not a big deal. I suppose it's part of the assignment's nature, but I personally feel that it would perhaps be less controversial if she was allowed to dress fully enfemme i.e. wig and make-up, and was trying more to look the part. (that's not meant to be a negative comment, merely an observation) Even if I don't agree with all the assignments, I certainly applaude your courage and do wish I was able to try on wedding and prom dresses openly. Love the french-tipped pedi, btw.
LaFem
05-21-2007, 10:42 AM
Each to their own, support one and other, live and let live.... but if you can't say something nice, then keep your mouth shut
Members at ALL levels should think about this before posting, I've seen many replies to posts that are unnecessary and frivolous. often they are just catty veiled insults. These can be quite painful to the recipient (been there). Sometimes it's better to not add your "two cents". If you really don't have something to say other than a snotty remark, don't say it.
On some occasions, a remark that is not nice IS appropriate, as long as it is part of an honest and sincere discussion, and not meant solely to offend, after all, this forum is not just a mutual admiration society.
PRIVATE EYES ARE WATCHING YOU!
Emily Ann Brown
05-21-2007, 11:11 AM
I will but add one comment I have seen nobody else mention (if I have missed it please forgive).......those of our number who were offended may have just experienced what our SOs have felt when they found out. Enough said ladies.
Emily Ann
Mitch23
05-21-2007, 11:13 AM
Its a classic dom/sub thing but taken way past where i would personally be comfortable. I've played this type of game with a semi pro mistress that i used to see fairly regularly. she would for example instruct me to wear panties to work and to text her during the day to let her know how i was getting on.
It was great fun and she would always respect my boundaries. Its entirely due to her attempts to feminise me that i am here on this website and am an active and committed crossdresser ... so not all bad. Im sure that many of you play similar games with your SO.
what i don't like here is the impersonal nature of it, the extreme humiliation of the sissy sub, the lack of dignity and all the social consequences and damage that these actions involve.
mitch
Mindys91503
05-21-2007, 11:17 AM
I guess I do not see a problem here. I have seen many posts talking about various outings and shopping trips and although this may not be popular say every one of the objections that has been raised about this thread has no merit as it has been done by others on this board.
Every time you go out in public enfemme you subject those around you to participating in your adventure. when you are shopping you make the sales person part of your activity, so with that being said what is wrong here? We all have our own motives for what we do but i see this post as no different than any "went out enfemme today" post. The judgemental attitude i have seen here is shocking! All I ever hear is how cds want acceptance and then they cannot accept one of their own, that is hypocritical. So it is more outlandish but that does not make it wrong. I have seen post of cds swimming in public pools in female swimsuits and yet people are upset that this poster ate at hooters dressed as a hooters girl? People need to take life less seriously and accept people for what they are as you want to be accepted.
Quit questioning ones motivation for what they do and look inward and question your own. I am disgusted by the treatment that pink recieved here and I hope that others that post can feel free to do so without the same treatment in the future!:Angry3:
I've been following this thread, and I'm glad to see that it's mostly turned around.
I would like to add one thing: someone (may have been pink) posted that going out dressed matters a lot more to us than it does to them. And I think that's true. It sounds harsh, but people pay us a lot less attention than we think. Judging from the reactions of the other people in pink's experiences, no one thought much of it, or were actually impressed by pink's courage/daring.
I know I'm impressed. I'm scared to go out totally en homme, because I don't really pass (I think), and no one even cares about women in men's clothes these days.
Sodapop
05-21-2007, 12:34 PM
I consider myself quite open-minded. Most of the list sounds like quite a fun time, and being "forced" sounds like a nice way to get past a few inhibitions.
Personally, I don't really see the fun in :
#10 the 40 pairs of pantyhose.
#12 pickle in a theatre sounds like it could be disruptive to other theatre patrons (unless it's an adult theatre).
#13 an entire lipstick and lipgloss... what the heck? at the same time? I don't get it.
#15 is just wrong. Return used make-up? yuck! Get an undeserved refund from an honest retailer? tsk tsk.
#22 lying about being pregnant seems awfully silly. I don't see how that'd be fun.
#28 also silly.
#30 disrupting a class isn't cool.
The pictures are interesting, the bra looks really good. One day I'd like to try on wedding gowns myself.
Good luck with your quest.
Deborah
05-21-2007, 12:52 PM
Well done Pink. You've done what most of us here will never do. :D
NewBetty
05-21-2007, 01:15 PM
I'm absolutely disgusted by the way you have treated a long standing member of this forum. Just because he hasn't posted much, you treat him like this for what? because he appears to be new? :Angry3: Each to their own, support one and other, live and let live.... but if you can't say something nice, then keep your mouth shut, there was simply no reason at all for spoiling someones thread, who was having a bit of fun. Is their no fun in your lives that you had to ruin someone elses?? My suggestion? Go get a life and leave others to their own.
Thank you, Tamara, and to the other admins as well for standing up for Pink here.
I too think that Pink here represents a legitimate and (let's face it) courageous element of the CD community. Yeah, I know girls can be bitchy even when they're boys, but come on ladies this is one ballsy batch of tasks Pink's boldly plowing through and if he gets off on stuff you don't dig:
ignore the thread.
It's not porn and in my opinion, not out of place in a community trying to support acceptance for those casting about to find their place in the world.
Alex!
05-21-2007, 02:16 PM
Pink,
I find your behavior curious, but then I find my behavior curious.
Here's to the curious, odd, bizarre, strange, and so on. It is, in the final analysis, what makes the world a fascinating place.
Post on!
KimberlyS
05-21-2007, 02:18 PM
WOW, how did I miss this post from Pink. I am with Sharon on this one.
This community is made up of a whole lot of different people with different desires, different motivations, and different perspectives. Let's respect those who are not the same as we are, if for no other reason than it is our differences that make the forum (as well as the world as a whole) interesting. After all, this place would be awful boring if everyone shared the same stories all the time.
So, to make it short and sweet, let's have a little tolerance and respect for one another.
I have always been a fairly accepting person. But the one thing that my personal acceptance of my CDing has done is make my acceptance of others even greater. It is said often here, "To each their own". And I really try to live by that as long as who they are and what they do does not impact me or others in a negative way. There are many posts here I do not read past the first post, or even first sentence. And a lot more post I do not even read because I just feel they are not me. But I will also read some posts just for the fun of it, like this one, only to find out the subject did not reflect the post or the post evolved.
Now I do think that this post is on the fringe of what this specific web site is trying to provide support for. But I think many other posts are just as much on the fringe if not more so. Actually Pink maybe kinda of in between different sites from reading some of Pink's explanations. Hummm, how many of us have ever felt like we just do not fit one place or the other.
I think while this post is not me, I think Pink has done well to stay within the content guidelines of this site
What I find interesting is some of the things on the list I have done and maybe in what would be a more humiliating way than what the list asked for. But I did them because it was me and I wanted to do it. Many here think being a guy in a skirt would be humiliating, disgusting, strange, weird, add your own here. To me that is just who I am.
Pink I am glad you find comfort in who you are. Because being different is not easy. If I see you out doing one of these items I may think you a bit odd depending on which one. But I will be cheering you on like mad internally and you may even get a "go for it" grin from me.
IMHO, it is people like Pink, and others who are out being who they are no matter what others think, that are the leaders in getting us all TG's acceptance. Sure legal wise we are getting more TG rights. But true acceptance only comes from the general society and society seeing who we are. And seeing us as people with just a different personality trait and not some pervert that needs to go to jail for a crime.
Blonde
05-21-2007, 02:27 PM
I am not into the D/s scene that this person is into, but I will defend thier right to make thier own choices. And I know that some disagree, but it is still all crossdressing, no matter what reason you have for doing it.
Myself, I try to pass when dressed, I wear what most women wear normally (and most women don't wear a lot of dresses that I've seen, unless it is for a formal occation, "on the hunt" or they're "June Cleaver")
Eva Diva
05-21-2007, 03:30 PM
When I first saw this thread, I thought "woo-hoo, here we go". :D I really wasn't interested in the content beyond recognizing the general flavor - it's just not my kink. I was interested in how it would go, so I waited until now to have a look. My take: people get very possessive of "their" forum. I've been reading boards since the first came on line, and before that in usenet groups. There are a few common phenomena that I've seen over and over.
One is "I have a right to read and approve of every thread". Often times perfectly nice people, but forgetting that not every thread is for you. If you don't like what someone is saying, just don't open the thread, or skip over their comment. A newsgroup friend once said 'A newsgroup is like a cocktail party where you can make people you don't like disappear". Personally, I'm not married, so I get bored by all the "My SO says" threads. Not that they are inherently boring, they just have no relevance for me. So I don't read 'em, right? :D
Another common gripe - "You're not one of us!" This is the regulars claiming special rights within "their" forum. This is closely related to the "cyber-buddy" syndrome, where regulars gang up on a newbie and make their life miserable until they stop posting. You can't win an argument when the cyber-buddies shoot you down, regardless of the content of your posts.
Ultimately, the moderators define what is appropriate and what is not. In the case of pictures, I can understand the adherence to a strict no-panty rule - although if it were up to me.... :D In the matter of discussion, however, I would generally prefer to see a very liberal moderation. If something is inappropriate to most members, then it will drop to the bottom of the page quickly and die a quick death. Unless, that is, said disapproving members keep tut-tut-ing it to the top of the page. :D On the last board I frequented, this was very common - the people demanding the moderator remove the "troll" were the ones keeping the thread at the top of the page. Wassup with that?
So kudos to the board bosses for keeping this thread open. Now I can go about my business and ignore it. :D
Sonia_cd
05-21-2007, 04:38 PM
First, congrats on having the courage to do all that you've done so far Pink. I personally am of the opinion that in some way you have contributed to societal acceptance of CD's in general. My feet would be heavier than lead before I walked into a store in drab and ask to try on clothes and lingerie for myself. In doing that and not having any adverse reactions, you have probably proved that most of our fears about reactions are unfounded as also underlined the importance and benefits of honesty. Thank you.
Second, I completely agree with Tamara in relation to her comments on this thread.
Third, there is nothing wrong in a CD posting her adventures with or without pictures. Let's assume Pink did not mention there was a mistress and that humiliation was a part of it, what would the responses have been? Approval? Joy? A hint of jealousy? or all of those things? Why then judge a person for their actions simply because the object of the persons adventure was one you disagreed with? I find it commendable that Pink has the courage to be honest about her reasons not only to us but to SA's and people she met in general. Instead of appreciating honesty you seem to want her to conform to a way of thinking and values that you believe all CD's (as understood by you) must abide by? Correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't that the exact battle that we fight with society in general? Unbelievable!!!
Fourth, for all the offensive remarks, sarcastic comments and statements of outright rejection, Pink has been very civil, polite and dignified in her responses to each of you. She has taken the trouble to respond to each of you, apologized if she hurt anyone's feelings and clarified her stand. Instead she could have gotten angry and abused everyone for their lack of acceptance, flamed people, and gotten banned. There is a very sensitive, caring and dignified person here and all she gets is rejection!! Congratulations to you all!!! I thought this was one place that is different and in all my time here had no cause to think otherwise, until now. :mad::sad:
Five, what is the deal with wanting Pink to show her face? Let me ask you this, what percentage of us post pictures and how many of those are willing to allow their faces to be seen. And then this distinction between the posts being acceptable if they were in the pictures section and not here. That's great if there were only pictures, what about Pink's eagerness to share her adventures with us? Where does that go? Remain suppressed within her despite wanting so desperately to share her stories with people she identifies with as a CD? There are no rules broken, no obscenity, no nudity...so what's the problem??
Six, I think its time for us all to take a relook at where we started from and where we are at today and the kind of battles for acceptance we fought within ourselves as also with society. I also think we owe Pink a large apology for being so critical and judgemental. You may disagree with me and that's fine. But from my side, I would like to say to you Pink, that I'm sorry for the angst and hurt that you may have felt after reading responses to your posts. I hope you will continue to be a part of us.
Finally, if anyone has any issues with what I've said, please PM me and say all that you have to. I request you not to hijack this thread in order to achieve that.
Sonia
Carin's Wife GG
05-21-2007, 05:00 PM
IMO even if this kind of activity is not our cup of tea (and for me it is not, but come to think of it my Carin thinks I have a latent Dom side, lol) Pink has every right to bring her activities to this forum. As a GG Pink's posting does not scare me away.
Carin and I are getting married (again) in June. I would bet that is not everyone's cup of tea either!
Kudos to you Pink for your courage and level of politeness even in the face of the opposite.
Louise.:love::love::love::love::love:
Annesah
05-21-2007, 05:37 PM
At first I thought this thread may be a hoax. So what! Dynamic and entertaining. All the controversy just added to the fun. Pink, BTW, your defence was brilliant. I'd bet your a attorney! This thread has more energy than most by a factor of ten to one. My thanks to all who participated.
Michelle04240
05-21-2007, 06:54 PM
Wow. Maybe it's because I can only fantasize being "forced" to do some of those things but I liked this post. I would love to try on a bra at VS, or a wedding dress at some shop, and it would be so that I could buy it. I have tried on clothes at various places...I'm doing what a good shopper should- try before you buy. IDK...I think it's great this thread turned more positive, kudos to your defense pink, very well put. Your a class act IMHO :2c:
I would really love a pic in a wedding dress. Someday....
Carry on
renee99
05-21-2007, 07:07 PM
I think it would be a good idea to remember that this is not a political forum. If it were a political forum seeking to normalize the "stealth" form of CDing, then perhaps this post would be crossing the line because it's exhibitionist CDing.
But really, stealth and exhibitionist CDing are not that much different. One just makes himself a target... it's his business whether or not he can deal with that risk.
However, a complaint might be that by doing this, exhibitionist crossdressers self-appoint themselves as representatives of the community, simply because of their visibility. I don't believe the answer is for him to hide, I believe the answer is for the rest of us to be equally proud of who we are. Heck, I bet Pink's adventures empowered those of us built like linebackers - neither passes, but could it be that passing doesn't really matter except in our own heads?
What I would loathe to see is this group turn into another Tri-Ess. Excluding those who don't fit the TG schema doesn't get us any closer to the answers that many of us still search for... and it certainly doesn't allay any societal suspicions about us, because those outside the TG schema don't cease to exist just because we don't like them...
IMkrystal
05-21-2007, 08:42 PM
I'm absolutely disgusted by the way you have treated a long standing member of this forum. Just because he hasn't posted much, you treat him like this for what? because he appears to be new? :Angry3: Each to their own, support one and other, live and let live.... but if you can't say something nice, then keep your mouth shut, there was simply no reason at all for spoiling someones thread, who was having a bit of fun. Is their no fun in your lives that you had to ruin someone elses?? My suggestion? Go get a life and leave others to their own.
I am so sorry pinkpantyhose that you have been subjected to this, one can only hope you don't lump us all into the same basket as those, that seem to be intollerant of others, when they want to be accepted by others who don't tollerate them...
As Rodney King said, "Can't we all get along?" :Playnice:
This forum has shown me, that no two CDs are alike! and I think the Fifth Amendment would apply here. This is America, isn't it?
I have to thank the administrators for voicing their common sense!
:iagree:
Sheri 4242
05-21-2007, 08:49 PM
I waited to respond to this thread, as it seems others did, too. I'll admit this thread required due and deep consideration! I completely understand the bdsm scene. If I recall correctly, I believe I recently stated on here that there are some (many?) CDers who turn to b/d and/or s/m for an outlet to be able to CD in front of another, whether forced or not. Once Pink said her Mistress required her to (complete the listed tasks within a certain time frame), Pink revealed herself to be a part of that scene to some greater or lesser degree. I absolutely do NOT have ANY problem with that whatsoever!!! In fact, I can see where it is an ultimate high -- thrilling, liberating, and invigorating -- and maybe just the right touch of humiliation!!!
Louise said (and I respect Louise tremendously):
IMO even if this kind of activity is not our cup of tea (and for me it is not, but come to think of it my Carin thinks I have a latent Dom side, lol) Pink has every right to bring her activities to this forum. As a GG Pink's posting does not scare me away.
Carin and I are getting married (again) in June. I would bet that is not everyone's cup of tea either!
So, Pink, to be quite honest, my ONLY concern when I first saw your post, and as I thought about it during the day, was the possible effects on our GGs. They do read this forum to learn, observe, investigate, and interact.
Louise seems to be a greatly enlightened person with high intellectual capacity. It does not, therefore, come as any news that she could and would say, "As a GG, Pink's posting does not scare me away." HOWEVER, since I have been on this site, I have seen many GGs come here who were deeply troubled and whose mental states were fragile. Some are hanging on by a mere thread, so to speak, and I am of the opinion that your thread might do them more harm than good -- BUT ONLY BY being placed where it was placed!!!
So, the one critical thing I have to say is this: I honestly believe that your thread would have been more appropriate in another place on this forum -- if for no other reason than simple respect for those who have come here for stability (or something closely akin to it -- and who would, correctly or not, think, that they are having their sense and sensibility assaulted. I am further convinced that many might actually freak out -- asking is Pink's representation what their SO's are doing? The mind can run absolutely wild in the face of uncertainty. I have found this website to be one of compassion and empathy, and education and edification. So, while I can see your great enthusiasm for what you are doing, Pink -- and I can completely understand it -- it is my humble opinion that you could have reached the same goal by posting elsewhere on this very site!!! I would still have reponded to you, as I am sure many would have. My senses were not assaulted at all. But, I think there have been many who have "fallen silent" vis-a-vis your post - at least I haven't seen some I would have expected to have seen on here. How many GG's have responded? As I write this the number is three?!! To me, that says something significant.
Maybe Emily Ann's perspective is also relevant in this same line of thought:
I will but add one comment I have seen nobody else mention (if I have missed it please forgive).......those of our number who were offended may have just experienced what our SOs have felt when they found out. Enough said ladies. Emily Ann
That may be quite valid!!!
Mitch also had an interesting perspective, but I won't go into repeating everything everybody said.
Let me end by saying that, just like Louise and Carin, my wife an I are doing a "remarriage" or "commitment ceremony" (whichever you prefer) when we are in Vegas in June, with me as the bride. Louise was right: that's probably something that isn't everybody's cup of tea -- and I suppose any number of new GGs coming to this site might well find such very odd. At any rate, I hope you meet all of your deadlines -- and I hope you enjoy the experience. I imagine it could be quite liberating emotionally!!! Do take care in your pursuits!!!
kerrianna
05-21-2007, 10:02 PM
I skipped reading about your adventures at first Pink because it just seemed sooooooo lonnnnnnggggg! :heehee:
I'm glad I took the time tonight to read. I actually 'get' what you are doing with your mistress because I dalllied with that for a brief time myself last year. It was a way of forcing myself out of the closet...for me, once I had flushed myself into the open so to speak, my motivation and attitude changed, so I don't think I'll be doing anything more like that from now on. But at the time it was a useful tool - I just didn't know it was a tool then - I was just exploring and pushing some latent fantasies.
What I love and appreciate about your stories is the attention to detail in your retelling them. It is fascinating to see the reaction of people you encounter, and really quite surprising how people seem to be more than willing to help. That alone is inspiring for any of us who are still afraid of getting our first pedicure, or going out dressed to the mall for the first time, etc.
The interesting thing about self accepted 'humliation' I found was the freedom and power it actually gives you in the end. When I went into the lingerie section of a major department store and told the clerk that my Mistress had told me to buy some specific items (I showed her the list) I first thought I would just die. My face was beet red my voice trembling, but by the time I had finished my shopping I, for the first time ever, was confident taking my purchases to the counter, knowing full well I was entitled to buy lingerie for myself. Ever since then I'm not nearly as nervous or abashed in buying anything femme for myself. It is LIBERATING!
It might not be the way for a lot of people, but a little bit worked for me and I can see you are indeed brave and I'm sure that completing these tasks will in the end give you the belief that when you are determined you can do ANYTHING in your life. I hope you do continue posting your adventures here. They are also very entertaining to read. :D
Sorry about some of the reaction you got here. We're kind of sensitive about anything that seems overtly sexual, and some people think the Mistress thing is all about sex. I think it's much more about pyschological stuff. Like I said, in my case it was my way of forcing myself into my gender reality. You have your own reasons which are as valid as anyone's so you go girl! :hugs:
Tamara Croft
05-21-2007, 10:19 PM
So, the one critical thing I have to say is this: I honestly believe that your thread would have been more appropriate in another place on this forumAnd just what forum might you suggest we move it to then? Should we move it to the intros along side the member that is in the closet, wears his wives clothes and gets off on cam in front of other men... and his wife doesn't know? no?
With all due respect, there is nothing wrong with this thread. He is hurting no one, no wife, no g/f... not like some of the members past and present, who have cheated on their partners and posted blatently about it in this section... but that's ok isn't it... that's not frowned upon... lots of 'you go girl' in those threads... :rolleyes:
So tell me, what exactly is wrong with this thread? who is it actually hurting? Not me, I see someone having fun, is that so wrong? or should we go back to the norm of panty threads... yeah you gotta love those invigorating threads... just what we need to know... just how much you love panties... highlight of my :censor: day.... NOT!!!!
Daintre
05-21-2007, 10:54 PM
I am amazed at the amount of interest this post has produced, both for and against pinks adventure. The one thing that irks me is the condemnation pink got...I thought we were an informed group of people, after all, we are all dealing with dressing in one form or another. I was so wrong, I have read hurtful and snide comments. This isn't my scene at all, but it is pinks and I am OK with that.
Threads like this are important to us all, it shows us the vast differences in how we view dressing. Tamara is so right, this thread is far more enlightening than 100 pantie threads. If you don't like a thread then just do this....hit the back button on your computer and just leave the thread.Go on to another.
Sheri 4242
05-21-2007, 11:52 PM
Tamara,
I guess this is a "sensitive day" in re Pinks's thread. I hope I have a right to reply to what you posted about what I had posted without being slammed. All I ask is that you read this post in its entireity. That said, I think you misunderstood what I was saying, which included:
(A.) an unambigious endorsement for Pink's enthusiastic pursuit of her "assignment,"
(B.) my feelings about one of this website's strongest attributes,
(C.) the opinion I had reached regarding one (and only one) possible area of concern about Pink's post,
(D.) the sudden realization I had that some of what I do might, likewise, be a potential area of concern in a like way (A + B = C), and
(E.) a sincere wish that Pink continue to enjoy herself, with a sentiment that she take care in pursuing her assignments.
That was the overall emphasis of what I was said -- and I presumed I had a right to express what I did. I believe I did so clearly and unambigiously, and even in an envy-like fashion. I don't think ANY of what I said was unkind towards Pink or anybody. I tried to simply lay forth an opinion that some GGs, especially neophytes, might not understand this type of activity and such might add to their angst.
Before anyone takes your blasting of me at face value, let's be clear in the major sentiments I expressed.
1. In part, I said: "I absolutely do NOT have ANY problem with (what Pink is doing) whatsoever!!!"
2. I continued with what I consider excellent rationale for Pink doing what she is doing. I said: "I can see where (what she is doing) is an ultimate high -- thrilling, liberating, and invigorating -- and maybe just the right touch of humiliation!!!" I also said, "I . . . completely understand (Pink's great enthusiasm) for what she is doing." To me, the word "liberating" is a major thing -- how many CDers want that liberated feeling to truly be themselves?!!!
3.) Within my writiing I showed a new-found realization of the potential impact of what I say on here when I said, "Let me end by saying that, just like Louise and Carin, my wife and I are doing a "remarriage" or "commitment ceremony" (whichever you prefer) when we are in Vegas in June, with me as the bride. Louise was right: that's probably something that isn't everybody's cup of tea -- and I suppose any number of new GGs coming to this site might well find such very odd."
4.) I rieterated my "best wishes" at the end when I said: " . . . I hope you meet all of your deadlines -- and I hope you enjoy the experience. I imagine it could be quite liberating emotionally!!! Do take care in your pursuits!!!"
Regarding the exceptional value of this forum, I said, "I have found this website to be one of compassion and empathy, and education and edification."
My ONLY area of concern was, " . . . the possible effects on our GGs. They do read this (MTF) forum to learn, observe, investigate, and interact (and) I have seen many GGs come here who were deeply troubled and whose mental states were fragile." For that reason alone I suggested that "perhaps" Pink's thread might be better placed in another part of this website.
You then come down on me like a ton of bricks absolutely blasting away at me like I had objected to Pink and his activities (which clearly isn't the case). You tell me there is nothing wrong with his thread. I agree!!! I have already said as much -- I said it impressed me as a liberating thing to do. You say the exact same thing again in the next paragraph -- Pinks hurting nobody and she's just having fun. I never said otherwise.
SIDEBAR: I'm sorry but I have to make a sidebar right here. I have told on here before about how both my wife and I were deeply hurt in our respective first marriages by partners who were both adulterers many times over. I frown on adultery VERY much, as does my wife and our children, and therefore take what you insuated as insulting and uncalled for -- your saying "but that's ok isn't it" would lead others to think I would approve of adulterous behavior, and I don't -- and I've never said otherwise.!!!!!!!
The only legitimate question you asked me is where on this forum would I suggest the thread be moved -- and I don't know the answer to that. Y'all seem to have to move threads almost daily. Sometimes I can see why, sometimes I can't. I find the MTF forum the mainstay of the site and where I can learn the most, and help the most, too, (since I'm 54 and have been CDing since I was c. 4 years old). My ONLY concern was that this thread might be better somewhere else on this site -- presuming there was another place it could be placed. And why did I suggest this? Certainly not to put down Pink -- I admire her and what she's doing --that was clear. The ONLY reason I "suggested" a possible move was in consideration of the GGs -- especially the newest ones, who, in looking for understanding and edification, might see the thread, not understand it, and then run before anyone could assist them in understanding.
I don't appologize for this position b/c (a.) it was just a suggestion made out of concern, and (b.) I in NO WAY insulted or disparaged anyone, Pink included, whose activities I clearly indicated were liberating -- a positive thing!!!
I am sorry if you didn't understand what I was saying. I tried to be as clear as possible!!! I guess it is a lot like Richard Nixon used to say: "I know you heard what you thought I said, but you didn't hear what I meant."
Peace?!?!?
kerrianna
05-22-2007, 12:22 AM
Barbara, while I see you are generally supportive of Pink and her posting this thread, I'm not sure I understand or agree with the fear of GG's being scared away by this.
There are a number of threads posted regularily in the MTF forum which could scare off a timid GG. Hopefully we post enough positive thoughtful stuff to keep them reading and feeling they can find help and understanding here.
Your premise that a GG might be especially freaked by Pink's postings indicates that you do think it's abnormal or extreme behaviour for CDing. If you were to ask them I bet many of the GGs coming here looking for help are thinking pretty much ALL CDing is abnormal. That's why they come here looking for help.
By being open about what the entire spectrum of CDing entails, from the men in panties to transitioning TS, INCLUSIVE of all that lies in between, we can allow the GGs to take what they need to learn and find how it applies to their own lives. There are many couples on this forum, and I don't think any one couple has the same kind of CDing experiences. Similar in many ways, but everyone of us is unique, as individuals and as couples. We should feel free to express that, keeping to forum rules and respect of each other. I think you do agree that Pink showed no disrespect to us, and she didn't break any rules (unless there is a rule about posting a bunch in a row on one thread - but that's a rule of thumb as far as I know - not a set rule)
Although our beloved Pirate Queen has a ...errr...direct :D way about her, she's right in the choice of forum to leave it in. It IS obviously a MTF issue, just one that is unusual to most (but not all as you have seen) of us.
And I personally didn't think Tamara was implying that YOU were okay with adultery. She was making a point in her own inimitable style: Rant and spank!
:p
:heehee: *runs to hide behind the couch again* :hiding:
Seville
05-22-2007, 12:51 AM
>> Due to offensive acts by some chat members, the chatroom will be closed temporarily. Check back to see when it is reinstated.
Uh oh...Seems we have a double standard here...
This is not logical to disallow "offensive acts" on one hand and
allow, even encourage, "offensive acts" on the other.
Flame away, I am through with this thread never to return to it.
I'm moving on to happier discussions on this forum...
And I love you all dearly...:love:
Tamara Croft
05-22-2007, 01:09 AM
>> Due to offensive acts by some chat members, the chatroom will be closed temporarily. Check back to see when it is reinstated.Yes, I'm pretty sure you are right... oh wait a minute... actually you aren't. Those offensive acts were members on their webcams getting off.... so I beg to differ!!! Facts go a long way, how about you get yours straight?
Sheri 4242
05-22-2007, 01:50 AM
Barbara, while I see you are generally supportive of Pink and her posting this thread, I'm not sure I understand or agree with the fear of GG's being scared away by this.
There are a number of threads posted regularily in the MTF forum which could scare off a timid GG. Hopefully we post enough positive thoughtful stuff to keep them reading and feeling they can find help and understanding here.
Your premise that a GG might be especially freaked by Pink's postings indicates that you do think it's abnormal or extreme behaviour for CDing. If you were to ask them I bet many of the GGs coming here looking for help are thinking pretty much ALL CDing is abnormal. That's why they come here looking for help.
By being open about what the entire spectrum of CDing entails, from the men in panties to transitioning TS, INCLUSIVE of all that lies in between, we can allow the GGs to take what they need to learn and find how it applies to their own lives. There are many couples on this forum, and I don't think any one couple has the same kind of CDing experiences. Similar in many ways, but everyone of us is unique, as individuals and as couples. We should feel free to express that, keeping to forum rules and respect of each other. I think you do agree that Pink showed no disrespect to us, and she didn't break any rules (unless there is a rule about posting a bunch in a row on one thread - but that's a rule of thumb as far as I know - not a set rule)
Although our beloved Pirate Queen has a ...errr...direct :D way about her, she's right in the choice of forum to leave it in. It IS obviously a MTF issue, just one that is unusual to most (but not all as you have seen) of us.
And I personally didn't think Tamara was implying that YOU were okay with adultery. She was making a point in her own inimitable style: Rant and spank!
:p
:heehee: *runs to hide behind the couch again* :hiding:
Kerrianna,
Your post really made me smile a good smile on an otherwise very hard day on a number of different fronts, and for that I thank you very much! I appreciate your take on things, and the way you express yourself! I am more than just generally supportive of Pink -- I wholeheartedl support her!!! As to "why" I felt it might be something that had the potential to scare off some GGs (and I mainly was thinking about neophytes to the site), it was, in part, a gut reaction you know, one of those things you feel but can't really explain, and also in part on the study of psychology. I think the most revealing thing in my entire post was my own revelation to what Louise had said -- it made me really think about how others (especially newcomers) view the things we say. Here you have Carin and me both getting ready to be "June Brides" thanks to our loving spouses, Louise and Val, and I had not given one thought to how that might make a newbie feel.Like Louise said, such is probably not everybody's cup of tea.
As far as Pink goes, I understand quite a bit about what she is doing and can attest to the liberation her actions will, if all requirements are met, give her. I was not offended in the least by her posts or what she is doing -- I think what she is doing can have very positive results in persons prone to that scene. I just had tis "wave" sweep over me and got to thinking about the young wife who has just found out her husband is a CD -- and this image came to mind of the husband spending hours and days and weeks trying to explain what he is and why -- and maybe even that it isn't really all that abnormal (at least it isn't to me, but the drumer is on a different beat). Then, he finally gets her to come her to see for herself the normalacy, hoping she will join in and receive edification, and BANG, the first post she sees is Pink's. Maybe I should have processed it a bit more, but what's done is done. I am, though, incredibly supportive of Pink b/c I do know the liberation, and I have seen a new aspect of some of what I do or want to do, like being a bride next month!
Perhaps I shouldn't offer up excuses, but as I have already stated, I am excessivey tired (up for the last 36 hours), and during the last two weeks have twice taken one of my children to a specialty medical clinic one state over. Maybe that is, in part, why I am so sensitive about the adultery bit. Bt, my wife and I find we both are to varous degrees. I get edgey every year when the time gets close that I first cught my first wife. I don't know why I do -- it shouldn't bother me b/c I wouldn't exchange what I have now for the first wife and all the gold in Ft, Knox!!! But every year, deja vu knocks at my door and I relive it all -- down to her telling me that since I had found out she might as well go ahead and leave -- and I cold have the children, too. Great mother, huh?!!! The interesting thing is this creeps up on me subconsciously. Well, enough of that . . .
Thanks again for your perspectives and kind words!!! You ARE appreciated!!!
Barb
Tamara Croft
05-22-2007, 02:03 AM
I most certainly was NOT implying Barbara was ok with adultery, I was generally speaking about other posts in this forum, that are far worse than this one... which imho I think is fine... and I'm a GG, who's not always been supporting, not always been fine with everything, but even so, this thread would not have scared me in the least ;)
I'm pretty sure the adultery threads cause more problems than any other thread posted... infact, I'm absolutely sure that those type of threads scare the hell out of the GG's...
GACountrygal
05-22-2007, 02:20 AM
As a GG, this thread doesnt scare me IN THE LEAST!!!!
It seems as though Pink isnt out wandering around creating a menace of herself and *giving crossdressing a bad name* She is doin things enough out of her comfort zone and broadening her experiences while at the same time, allowing the public to see that there is nothing wrong with crossdressing.
Kudos Pink!!!
Nic
kerrianna
05-22-2007, 02:25 AM
Barb, try to get some rest hon. :hugs: You do sound frazzled.
I think your own experience of adultery is very indicative of why so many people here take it very very seriously. It really does hurt in a very deep way, as you attest to. I hope your future is bright. :love:
Seville, not sure what 'offensive acts' you are referring to. Nothing Pink posted seemed offensive to me. Maybe some people might feel uncomfortable thinking about doing that stuff themselves, but it was her doing it, her choice. Well her choice to submit to it. :p
And some people might have felt it puts CDers in a bad light, but that's just a judgement on their part. Some folks out there would tell you that there's no CDing that is ever good, or some people would tell you that it's all good. Personal judgement IMO. Most of the people Pink has interacted with seem to have seen it as a guy on a dare rather than a committed crossdresser anyway.
I hope Pink hasn't been dissuaded from continuing to post here. It makes for fun reading if nothing else. :D
If people are offended or uninterested there are lots of other threads they can go read.
Amanda Shaft
05-22-2007, 04:06 AM
Hi all, I’ve found this one of the most interesting and entertaining threads on here for a sometime. Not just because of Pinks adventures, and good luck to her for living them, but also because of the debate that has ensued.
Having a list of tasks to work through some or all of which push an individuals boundaries is neither uncommon nor unhealthy: I have ‘dared’ myself to go driving dressed, to walk around the block, to walk around the shops: it’s just a way of goal setting and measuring achievement. Pinks tasks may not be to all our tastes but surely they fit into the category of not hurting or harming anyone else so what’s the problem?
Maybe the issue is that we take ourselves too seriously at times! Is it possible that what we see in the responses to Pinks adventures is a kind of elitism: that we find it necessary to defend the ‘good name’ of Cding? I for one try to pass, try to blend in, want to be seen as a women: others do not, others cannot, but should this exclude their efforts, their experiences, and their stories from those of us who want to be seen as more than blokes in dresses? (Sorry if I’m doing you a disservice there Pink I'm just pointing out there are many levels).
Ultimately we need to stand together, each of us doing whatever it takes to meet our own criteria for Cding, but being aware and accommodating towards others who have set and meet their own criteria. We need to be a ‘broad church’ rather than defenders of some impossible and implausible ideal, what chance is there for acceptance from the rest of the world if we can’t accept each other?
Finally to the moderators: good job girls!
Yours (off on one), Amanda x
Kieron Andrew
05-22-2007, 04:48 AM
come on girls live and let live.................
Sheri 4242
05-22-2007, 05:55 PM
Having a list of tasks to work through some or all of which push an individuals boundaries is neither uncommon nor unhealthy: I have ‘dared’ myself to go driving dressed, to walk around the block, to walk around the shops: it’s just a way of goal setting and measuring achievement. Pinks tasks may not be to all our tastes but surely they fit into the category of not hurting or harming anyone else so what’s the problem?
This is an excellent way of looking at things, Amanda!!! What CD hasn't at least thought of daring themselves to do different things en femme?!! How many of us have reveled in actually achieving some act (driving en femme, shopping, etc.)?!!! A great many of us have spoken of actually doing something that pushed a personal boundary. The only difference is that Pink had someone give her a whole list of things to accompish. Is this any different than my wife suggesting I take a skirt into the dressing room at the Gap and try it on? Nope! It is exactly the same thing!!! Maybe with not as much flare, but the same thing nonetheless.
Eva Diva
05-22-2007, 06:06 PM
This forum has shown me, that no two CDs are alike! and I think the Fifth Amendment would apply here. This is America, isn't it?
I'm not sure if anyone else caught this, but.... No, this is not America. This is the World Wide Web. We Americans commonly use that expression, but in a forum like this one it's the kind of thing that can cause eye-rolling by our British, Canadian, Aussie, etc. friends. Let's not forget that there's more to the world than the good old USA.
Kieron Andrew
05-22-2007, 06:10 PM
I'm not sure if anyone else caught this, but.... No, this is not America. This is the World Wide Web. We Americans commonly use that expression, but in a forum like this one it's the kind of thing that can cause eye-rolling by our British, Canadian, Aussie, etc. friends. Let's not forget that there's more to the world than the good old USA.
Amen.....and dont forget our european brothers and sisters here too :)
immike
05-23-2007, 02:08 PM
I'd love to try on Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders uniform?
Dixie
05-23-2007, 02:30 PM
WOW!! I still don't see what all the commotion is about, we are all individuals and as such see things differently, but that does not give anyone the right to force their opinions on someone else. If you do not like a thread here DON"T read it. No one is forcing you to read every thread on this cite.
Larissa
05-23-2007, 08:56 PM
What a wonderful thread. It is like walking down a hall of mirrors. So many reflections. Reflections of our hopes and reflections of our fears. Reflections of how we see ourselves as individuals and as a community.
Thank you Pink for giving us the opportunity to see and learn so much from your experiences.
Love,
Larissa
sandy_folsom
05-23-2007, 10:41 PM
I found the topic *interesting* but thought it belonged more in the picture gallery since it wasn't really a discussion about the assignments but more of posting of the pictures as each assignment is accomplished.
A few days ago, somebody complained that the same things were being discussed over and over. I guess this is something different. ;)
Susan.
05-23-2007, 11:37 PM
When I first starting reading this thread I didn't think it would be as controversial as it quickly became. Probably because I used to try to get my wife to take a more dominant role in my crossdressing. First because I liked it when she participates but also I think it relieved much of the guilt I had at the time. If she made me dress up then I was "only weak and not some deviant."
Those days are long gone and I hardly ever get the 'urge to purge', nor do I feel nearly as guilty as I once did.
IMkrystal
05-23-2007, 11:58 PM
I'm not sure if anyone else caught this, but.... No, this is not America. This is the World Wide Web. We Americans commonly use that expression, but in a forum like this one it's the kind of thing that can cause eye-rolling by our British, Canadian, Aussie, etc. friends. Let's not forget that there's more to the world than the good old USA.
Eva Diva is correct, I made an incorrect assumption. George Bush and I have something in common about making incorrect assumptions. I should have said, in democratic societies freedom of speech is an essential component in maintaining their health. Members of this community, " Crossdresser.Com" should realize this is a democracy, and attempting to suppress a member's expressions of their feelings or comments is "unhealthy" and should not be allowed.
MoonBaby GG
05-24-2007, 03:57 AM
What a wonderful thread. It is like walking down a hall of mirrors. So many reflections. Reflections of our hopes and reflections of our fears. Reflections of how we see ourselves as individuals and as a community.
I agree...and as a GG all I have to say is 'OH MY'. I can barely stand to wear ONE pair of pantyhose, much less 26 at a time. That is *my* idea of Dante's ninth level of hell. :p
NylonMan
05-27-2007, 12:25 PM
I for one liked this thread? Please continue to post your assignments. Some people don't realize that Crossdressing takes on all forms and affects people differently.
Mitch23
05-27-2007, 01:03 PM
Just another few thoughts from me. Like a lot of us i thought i understood this thread but there was so much of i just hadnt grasped it all because there was such a lot to read. The depth of analysis here does us all credit - family dont always agree about everything but its great to arrive at a consensus!
thoughts on dom/sub relationships. Mine was non-sexual, mistress is married and so am i. she gets a real buzz out of crossdressing (the first GG I ever met who did), built up my self confidence with the games we played and brought me to this place. Everything we did was neither tasteless nor seedy and had the effect of enhancing my marriage by allowing me to be who i was intended to be and giving birth to mitch. The relationship was mutually closed down because it became inappropriate for me to be seeing another woman, in whatever circumstances, behind my wifes back.
At no time did i have to comply with her instructions. i did so because i wanted to and i could have stopped at any time. some of the activities (I wont tell) were extreme and rattled my cage a lot. Pink, I think is fantastic. By the time she has gone through that list, she will have no inhibitions left whatsoever and i totally admire the cheerful and humorous ways she has gone about those tasks and her infectious willingness to share them with us,
mitch
NylonMan
05-28-2007, 08:29 PM
Yes, but that was my whole point. Everybody that Crossdresses does it for thier own reasons, and it is not always the same as yours.
I love to dress, but I also like it when my wife actually puts me in an outfit, and makes sure I don't remove it, until she does.
It adds a whole new dimension, and for me more intense sex.
pinkpantyhose
06-01-2007, 11:20 AM
I went to Lady Footlocker to purchase an outfit. I already had the shoes from my Hooters girl assignment and the slouch socks from there also. I also had the glossy suntan pantyhose, so I just needed the leotard or shorts and tank.
I was greeted by the salesgirl who said "nice outfit!" I was wearing a blue stretch tank top, bra, miniskirt, suntan pantyhose and black 4" heels. I said "Thanks!" and began looking. They don't carry leotards, and they only had 1 option for shorts in pink. So I found my size as well as the matching tanktop and asked to try them on. "Sure hun, right over here." They fit fine though the tank top was a bit small, but all the more humiliating I guess. I purchased them.
Going to the gym like this was going to be super humiliating. I would have to show my membership card, so I decided to go in drab and change in the locker room. I don't know why I thought that would be less humiliating than going in already dressed, but....
I went in, got to the locker room. I was already wearing my panties and pantyhose underneath my jeans. Of couse I used the mens' locker room and there were half-naked guys and guys showering all around me. I wanted to get out of there as quickly as I could, so I took off my shoes, threw off my jeans, yanked on the shorts, threw the jeans in a locker, took off my t-shirt, thew on the tank which took too long because it was so tight, and put in my enhancers. The tank had a built-in bra. The 2 guys in that section of the locker room (an older guy and a Hispanic guy) left as I was changing. I guess they didn't want to watch. So I decided to snap a quick picture there.
Off I went. Leaving the locker room was a relief, but then I was out in the very open gym with no place to hide. I just relaxed and got on an exercise bike near a pretty girl. She looked at me, grinned, and then ignored me while I worked out. I snapped a couple more pictures before going back to the locker room and just putting my jeans over my shorts and shirt over the tank top. No one said anything positive or negative my whole time there.
http://lh4.google.com/image/pinkpantyhose/RmBAl2zcE1I/AAAAAAAAC20/feXXRsLAfcs/s800/d0103.jpg
Assignment 1 complete :)
See more photos here: http://picasaweb.google.com/pinkpantyhose/Assignments?authkey=KW8gCJ7u7F0
pinkpantyhose
06-01-2007, 11:35 AM
This was a very fun assignment. Having had success in the mall before in a schoolgirl outfit, I decided to wear a blue jean stretch miniskirt, suntan pantyhose, 4" black heels, and a blue stretch tank that shows some cleavage with my new VS bra.
I went to Fredericks and went to a rack with corsets. A very pretty Latina approached me and said "You look like you're looking for something very specific." I said "Yes, hi, I'm looking for a corset, but it has to the kind that laces up in back." All I was seeing were the non-lace-up ones. She said, "Oh, okay, over here..." and we walked to the middle of the store with another rack. "This is the dream corset. What size?" "36B." She grabbed a red one. "This would look pretty with your skintone, what color do you like?" "I love the pink." "Nice choice. Now I recommend you try these on because you want to make sure it gives you the hourglass figure you're looking for." "Oh great" I said. She was still holding the red one too. She said "Right this way" and walked to the dressing room. "Okay, have you ever worn one of these before?" I had, many times, but decided to play dumb. "No." "Okay, well, let me untie these laces." She did. "Okay, they hook in front here and laces go in back. Once you've got it hooked in front, call me, I'm Marisela, and I'll come and tie you in back, okay?" "Great!" I couldn't believe my luck. She totally offered to do what Mistress ordered me to do.
I did as she said, snapped a few "before" pictures, and then called her over. She ran back to me from the front. "Now, hold your breath so you can still breathe after I lace this. It's going to feel tight but it's supposed to, okay?" Okay. She laced the top first, then the bottom. I had to be careful to keep my balance. We made small talk -- she asked if was going to a party this weekend. She was very nice and genuine.
After she laced me, she said I had a very pretty hourglass figure and told me how to take it off. I snapped a couple "after" pictures.
http://lh3.google.com/image/pinkpantyhose/RmBAgmzcEwI/AAAAAAAAC2M/P0wUfAVIazY/s800/d0504.jpg
Assignment 5 complete!
See more photos here: http://picasaweb.google.com/pinkpantyhose/Assignments?authkey=KW8gCJ7u7F0
pinkpantyhose
06-01-2007, 11:44 AM
First, I had to find a 36DD or bigger bra. I wanted to go for the biggest I could find. I found some DD's in JC Penney, Kohls, Victoria's Secret, and Fredericks, but had trouble finding a DDD, E, F, or G. I was told by the salesgirl in JC Penney to try Lane Bryant. So I did. They had a couple 36E's in stock, but told me there that they don't have 36F or G in stock but I could order them online. Then the girl whispered "But they do stock them at Dillards."
Off to Dillards. They had a couple options in 36G! I bought one.
I had no idea how much bird seed to use, so I bought 2 2lb boxes. I ended up using 1 entire 2lb box for each breast. It's incredible having your chest 4lbs heavier and so so bouncy. It felt great. I had also never seen a bra with 4 eye-hooks in back. 1, 2, and 3 were all I had seen.
I found a stretch tank top I had that worked with the stuffed bra. I was somewhat surprised that it stretched that much.
Walking through the mall was going to be fun and humiliating. I have hugely noticeable breasts that were bouncing everywhere, especially in the 4" heels I was wearing. I walked through JCPenney, back to Lane Bryant, and to the food court area. People definitely noticed, some laughed, some pointed, most just ignored me or grinned.
http://lh4.google.com/image/pinkpantyhose/RmBAV2zcEoI/AAAAAAAAC1M/Eb0almCs2_c/s800/d0608.jpg
Assignment 6 complete!
See more photos here: http://picasaweb.google.com/pinkpantyhose/Assignments?authkey=KW8gCJ7u7F0
MsJanessa
06-01-2007, 11:54 AM
the pink corset complements you nicely and really gives you that desirable hourglass shape---you should wear it under most if not all of your outfits, in addition to just itself. I also really liked the wedding/prom gown in the first group of photos---
pinkpantyhose
06-01-2007, 12:05 PM
Another very fun assignment!
I went to a "Motherhood Maternity" store in the mall. I had never been to a maternity store and didn't know what to expect. I looked around and saw lots of different sections from lingerie to nursing to baby bottles and breast pumps to tops, pants, and dresses. Remembering the task was to try on tops and find out how things are sized, I went to the girl at the counter and said "Hi, how are you?" "Good, how can I help you?" "I am 4 months pregnant and I'm starting to show a little bit, so I need to buy a whole new wardrobe for the next 5 months, but this is my first pregnancy and I have no idea how your products are sized." She grinned. "Congratulations! Well, it's really easy. You just buy whatever your pre-preganancy size is." I asked "Oh, okay, but juniors, misses, womens...?" "Misses or womens" she said.
I began looking at the tops, found a few I liked in my size. I asked to try them on. She said I could try on only 3 things at once. I took 3 to the dressing room and she told me that I could use the pillow in there to see how they fit as my baby grew bigger. She was having fun with this. So was I. She closed the curtain behind me and I tried on the tops with and without the pillow, snapping pictures of each.
I then tried on a few others, 2 of those I bought and will show in another assignment.
I proceeded to purchase my blouses. She asked if I would like to register and if I did she would give me a free gift. I said "Sure!" She took down my name, address, phone number, and asked "What's your due date?" I had already prepared for this, and told her "October 28th. I got pregnant on my boyfriend's birthday. The only time I let him not use a condom, and well..." She laughed loudly. She asked if I was planning on breast feeding. I told her "Absolutely." "Good, breast milk is best for your baby." She wrapped my purchases in tissue, had me initial that they were non-returnable, and gave me my purchases in a bag. She told me to be sure and come back and "if you need any advice on things like breast pumps and nursing bras, I'm your girl." She said that loudly enough so some other customers in the store could hear. I decided she was probably enjoying trying to humiliate me. I was loving it though.
http://lh3.google.com/image/pinkpantyhose/RmBARmzcEkI/AAAAAAAAC0s/uo0gSPNDOL8/s800/d2211.jpg
Assignment 22 complete!
See more photos here: http://picasaweb.google.com/pinkpantyhose/Assignments?authkey=KW8gCJ7u7F0
pinkpantyhose
06-01-2007, 12:19 PM
I had some trouble with this assignment. Apparently most all Hispanic 14 and 15 year old girls are size 1-7. I tried 3 stores. Finally, the biggest store had some size 13s, but they were not as pretty and poofy as the smaller sized dresses.
Maria, an older Latina woman was my helper at this store. She wasn't very talkative, but I don't think she spoke much English. I told her "I'm looking for a quinceanera dress." "For you daughter?" "Oh no, it's for me. I never forgave my parents for not letting me celebrate me quinceanera, so now I'm having my own quinceanera to celebrate me becoming a woman." She walked over. I'm not sure she understood what I was asking. She showed me where the dresses were. They were on racks by size. I told her I needed bigger, size 14. She said "Oh, size 14, no. 13." She showed me a small section with some size 13s. I slected 2 dresses. "Can I try these on?" She looked puzzled, then said "Oh, for you? Okay." She walked me to the dressing room.
I tried on the 2 dresses, snapping pictures. Neither one fit too well and they were pretty tight, but it was fun trying them on. I felt like a princess.
http://lh4.google.com/image/pinkpantyhose/RmBAE2zcEYI/AAAAAAAACzM/CJqAtJXZzqs/s800/d2502.jpg
Assignment 24 complete!
See more photos here: http://picasaweb.google.com/pinkpantyhose/Assignments?authkey=KW8gCJ7u7F0
MsJanessa
06-01-2007, 12:23 PM
Actually it looks like it fits fine
kerrianna
06-01-2007, 02:28 PM
What a gorgeous dress!
I bet you did feel like a princess. You look like one! :D
You look good in pink.
Lydia Hamilton
06-01-2007, 03:28 PM
This is definately out of the norm. However, we are all very much out of the norm. So, I think ,,,, yes, a little tolerance. Just my opinion. Lydia
mysteryhorn57
06-01-2007, 05:50 PM
As somone who recently met a Domme Mistress on line, I found Pink's story fascinating.
I just hope my mistress never sees the 30 item list!!! I will probably never meet mine, but she has been very supportive and actually helped me progress as a crossdresser. My tasks are very private and very x rated.
I also realized I could not stay married and in the closet with a SO any longer. I moved across the country, started the divorce process (there were other issues as well), and basically started a whole new life.
I also met a wonderful GG who is supportive, encouraging, and a great person to be with. We met here at crossdressers.com. I started going out in public EN FEMME, and get kind of a perverse thrill from "freaking out the SQUARES".
As for the persons who were "offended"...it seems that they read every word. GET OVER IT. No one is forcing you to read Pink's story. IMHO, there are far too many people easily "offended" by just about everything.
I am offended by: country music, MTV, American Idol, and a lot of other things that a majority of people seem to enjoy. I just ignore stuff I don't like, and try to support things I do like.
I personally can't wait to hear how this story ends.
Just my 2 cents.
tanya50
06-02-2007, 10:17 AM
I admire your courage. Did you go in drab or en fem?
Tonya
pinkpantyhose
06-02-2007, 05:27 PM
I admire your courage. Did you go in drab or en fem?
Tonya
Thanks... to almost everywhere I went en femme. The gym I think was the only exception.
Eva Diva
06-02-2007, 06:25 PM
At no time did i have to comply with her instructions. i did so because i wanted to and i could have stopped at any time. some of the activities (I wont tell) were extreme and rattled my cage a lot.
mitch
Tell, tell.... :D
Eva Diva
06-02-2007, 07:09 PM
I just remembered something. Years ago my Dad and some collegues were sent to college by his employer. One of the classes was for public speaking. And one of the exercises to break down the fear of speaking in front of an audience was to stand up in front of the class and speak in an effeminate voice. These were WWII guys, and they were in a macho profession. It must have been huge for them to take that step and deal with the embarrassment.
Sounds kinda familiar. :D
JamieDP
06-03-2007, 08:34 AM
Pink, keep doing your thing. I find it Ironic that pink found more rejection and humiliation from this forum initially than from her CDing in public.
There is something to be learned there about all of this.
Mitch23
06-03-2007, 09:45 AM
shame about your sunburnt face though ....
Mitch
jenny01
06-05-2007, 04:02 PM
Pink, Time for an update!
Christina Nicole
06-05-2007, 05:50 PM
This community is made up of a whole lot of different people with different desires, different motivations, and different perspectives. Let's respect those who are not the same as we are, if for no other reason than it is our differences that make the forum (as well as the world as a whole) interesting. After all, this place would be awful boring if everyone shared the same stories all the time.
So, to make it short and sweet, let's have a little tolerance and respect for one another.
Lets try an analogy.
Here is this... person, who gets these assignments to appear in public as an object of ridicule because he is a cross dresser or is cross dressed -- and you say that's OK. But tell me, how is that different from, say an African-American going out an appearing as "Buckwheat", "Rochester" or in black-face? He may get his jollies by doing so, but it certainly reflects badly on others. Wouldn't one say that was reprehensible behavior not to be condoned?
Regards,
Christina Nicole
Mindys91503
06-05-2007, 07:22 PM
I do not see this as making the rest of us look bad at all. It is simply self expression but I am a firm believer that the only person that makes me look bad is me. At least pink is open and honest about his activities alot of posters here that hide their behavior from their spouses and were not honset in the beginning.
What is ink doing that s so wrong? The attention that is recieved by him is his attention and does not reflect on you. To me it is vain to think that you are going to be affected by everyone that chooses to express themselves differently. I think that in our quest for acceptance how can we expect the general public to accept us when we cannot accept each other? So pink is doing assignments some of us would not if I do not want to be judged maybe I should not be so judgemental If I want to be accepted maybe I should be accepting.
Most everyone that has condemned pink would be furious if they were called out like that or told that their behavior was reprehensable, think about it to the general population crossdressing is reprehensable behavior and yet we post and whine about being treated bad for simply expressing ourselves. Well Pink is doing just that expressing himself and I for one say if you do not like it fine but do what you want the rest of the public to do with you dislike it in silence!
Some of the assignments are too over the top for me but I am going to do alot of them myself simply to boost my own confidence and get over my fear of riducle by just taking it. The continued lack of acceptance by those that should be accepting makes me so furious. And the analogy that you used is flawed because black people have dressed as buckwheat (Eddie Murphy) and they can laugh at themselves. I guess we are too serious for that huh? Keep it up pink and I too will be posting my adventures soon enough,
Sharon
06-05-2007, 07:34 PM
Lets try an analogy.
Here is this... person, who gets these assignments to appear in public as an object of ridicule because he is a cross dresser or is cross dressed -- and you say that's OK. But tell me, how is that different from, say an African-American going out an appearing as "Buckwheat", "Rochester" or in black-face? He may get his jollies by doing so, but it certainly reflects badly on others. Wouldn't one say that was reprehensible behavior not to be condoned?
Regards,
Christina Nicole
Eddie Murphy did a number of Buckwheat imitations on Saturday Night Live about 15-20 years ago, and I, along with millions of other people, thought it was hilarious, and not poking fun at the African American people at all.
Lighten up, not every person who enjoys putting on clothing associated with the other sex has the same standards you do.
And one more thing -- I will protect the rights of any member here who abides by the rules of the forum, whether or not I appreciate what they do or whether I find them embarrassing to you, me, or transgendered people everywhere.
mandy20
06-06-2007, 01:52 AM
i think to each there own, and should be the case for everybody,
Chantelle CD
06-06-2007, 03:08 AM
What if everyone that had dressing desires did just what pinky has the guts to do, woman had to do this in order to be able to ware pants!!! force the public to accept it!!! May well be the only way cross dressing will ever be accepted, and not ridiculed in public, wow, what a dream:happy:
immike
06-08-2007, 06:10 AM
Buy complete cheerleader outfit and wear it in a shopping mall.
I would LOVE to dress in a Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders uniform!
michellecd_ne
06-08-2007, 06:46 AM
i found this post to be refreshing and amusing. I kinda wish I was out shopping with her.
pinkpantyhose
06-11-2007, 03:43 AM
Having been allowed by my Mistress to change one of my assignments (#26 - belly button ring), this assignment was made somewhat more difficult and humiliating.
I was to get a maternity photo shoot that allowed me at least 1 outfit change and belly shots.
I called a few places to find the best prices for the session, and then remembered I had a few coupons given to me in my "gift set" for registering at Motherhood Maternity in another assignment. Sure enough there was a coupon for a free session with free online proofs. I called a mall to set up an appointment. The girl I talked with was very nice. She told me ideas for outfits, that I would be allowed up to 3 outfits and that they offered a wrap which could be included as one of the outfits, and what to expect as far as time and portrait prices. They also offered to do my hair and makeup for free also. I asked Mistress if this was okay, and she said it was, so I brought my wig and wore only lip gloss to the session.
I was very nervous entering the studio as they had large computer monitors displaying others people's pictures while they showed them to the customers in front of everyone. Soon my photos would be on that monitor -- wearing maternity clothes! Then I got giddy with excitement.
Having my hair and makeup done was fun, but over with fast. They said it was best to keep it simple as the focus should be on my belly and baby. We chit-chatted about what outfits I had, when I last had pictures done, how often I dress up, etc.
Shortly later I met my photographer. I was hoping for a female photographer, but I got a male. Oh well. He asked me what I was looking for in the photos. I told him just a standard maternity session. He said "including belly shots?" "Yes!" He asked if I was wearing my first outfit. I told him no, I needed to change tops. He showed me where to change. I wore blue jeans and a white half-sleeve too-small top that I bought at WalMart with this photo shoot in mind, and only buttoned 1 button to show my belly as much as possible. This was recommended to me as a "classic" look by the girl on the phone who booked my appointment.
http://lh4.google.com/image/pinkpantyhose/Rmzt3WqOkfI/AAAAAAAAC-o/l_q4XJnX-Nk/s400/d0719.jpg
This was actually becoming fun. I was told to lay down, to sit, to stand this way, to put my hands on my tummy, to hold this rose, to look at my belly, to look at the camera, etc.
It was time for my second outfit...the dress. I had found this at Motherhood on clearance for $9.99. I wore my heels with it and pantyhose of course.
http://lh5.google.com/image/pinkpantyhose/Rmzt1mqOkWI/AAAAAAAAC9g/xOFv4cV9NGc/s400/d0710.jpg
Then my wrap. The girl who did my makeup told me to change back into my jeans and just wear my bra and she would help me with the wrap. I came out in my bra and some other customers saw me. I wanted to hide, but soon enough the wrap was in place. More photos while some people watched me with blank stares...
http://lh5.google.com/image/pinkpantyhose/RmztzmqOkNI/AAAAAAAAC8Y/u_MnxZwUpBQ/s400/d0701.jpg
Soon enough, it was over. I had done it! Next I waited on a sofa while my photos were uploaded to the large viewing monitors for anyone wandering by to see... I started looking through a photo book wishing I was as pretty as the models there and actually wishing I was actually pregnant and carrying a baby. How fun would that be? I was treated so well, like a real pregnant woman would have been. I felt great.
Time to see my pictures. 24 shots or so... A different girl sat with me and explained pricing and told me to let her know which were my favorites so she could enhance them for me to see. I loved one of a closeup of my belly and she showed me how she could fade the colors, add shadows, change the tone, remove blemishes, etc. She was editing my maternity pictures in the store while I was wearing a maternity blouse, heels, and tight girls' jeans in the middle of an upscale mall. Was this really happening? She edited a few and saved them. She told me how to view my photos online and how to order online. I thanked them and left.
See all my photos here: http://picasaweb.google.com/pinkpantyhose/Assignments?authkey=KW8gCJ7u7F0
pinkpantyhose
06-11-2007, 03:44 AM
I knew this was going to be humiliating. I found a girls' skating dress at a thrift store and already had some glossy opaque skaters' tights. I wore them under my jeans and blouse, rented my skates, and went to the mens' bathroom to change. I was very nervous as I stepped out of the stall in my skirted leotard dress, breast enhancers, tights, and elastic pony-tail holder on my wrist. I am a terrible ice skater, so I knew I would have to take pictures before I got on the ice as there was no way I could skate and hold the camera. I put on my skates in the locker area. 2 young boys stared at me. Others smiled. I caught a couple of teenage girls doing double and triple-takes at me. I skated twice around the rink holding the rail a lot at first. Someone snapped a picture of me with their camera phone. I was humiliated thinking that they were going to show everyone at work or school what they saw today. I skated in a large mall where the rink can be seen from 1, 2, and 3 floors above me. I'm sure many watched as I fumbled my way around the rink.
This was probably my most embarassing assignment so far, and I can't believe I actually did it. :)
http://lh3.google.com/image/pinkpantyhose/RmznjGqOkHI/AAAAAAAAC7g/4fa6Gv6x0V8/s400/d1105.jpg
See more photos here: http://picasaweb.google.com/pinkpantyhose/Assignments?authkey=KW8gCJ7u7F0
pinkpantyhose
06-11-2007, 03:44 AM
I decided to wear a one-piece swimsuit to a public pool. I didn't want to spend for a water park although it would have been much more fun :)
I had my suit in my bag and got to the locker room to change. I tried to hide in the corner but I know at least 2 guys saw me trying as quickly as I could to put my feet through the holes and yank my arms through the shoulder straps of my cheetah-print lycra and nylon ladies' swimsuit. I threw my shoes, shirt, and jeans in the locker, grabbed the camera and walked to the pool. A guy was there swimming. Another 2 were in the sauna adjacent to the pool. I snapped a few quick photos, set the camera down, swam a quick lap. The other swimmer left as soon as he could. The guys in the suana seemed to be watching me and chuckling. I didn't care. I got out, dried off quickly, grabbed my camera and tiptoed back to my locker to throw my wet suit in the bag. Never had I felt so relieved to be standing in a public locker room butt-naked, LOL. On went the jeans and top, and off I went toting my wet suit in hand.
http://lh3.google.com/image/pinkpantyhose/Rmzp_GqOkLI/AAAAAAAAC8E/8TuH55AQyns/s400/d1803.jpg
See more photos here: http://picasaweb.google.com/pinkpantyhose/Assignments?authkey=KW8gCJ7u7F0
pinkpantyhose
06-11-2007, 03:54 AM
I was allowed to change my assignment 26. When I began my training, Mistress and I had agreed no permanent body changes. I read and was told by 2 tattoo parlors that a belly piercing usually takes a month to heal and can take up to a year to close up. That is too "permanent" for me, so I was allowed to change the assignment with the added requirements of the photo shoot that I just posted.
I think this modified assignment may be too risque to post here so I'll lik it if that's alright.
http://getgirlie.com/sissyforum/viewtopic.php?t=4756
Moderator(s), please remove this link if inappropriate. There is no pornography or nudity, so don't be too worried...
http://lh3.google.com/image/pinkpantyhose/Rmzk2GqOkDI/AAAAAAAAC68/chpIX4S0a94/s400/d2604.jpg
Chrysoprase
06-11-2007, 04:24 AM
So is this a long term power exchange relationship or a box course through a website/pro domme?
pinkpantyhose
06-11-2007, 08:35 PM
So is this a long term power exchange relationship or a box course through a website/pro domme?
Prolly somewhere in-between at this point. We communicate through email right now.
janetcd2
06-12-2007, 02:44 PM
You are very lucky to have a Mistress who cares enough about you to humiliate in such a public form. Keep up the good work and please post any further training. Believe me there are those who understand and even envy your position
Tamara Croft
06-12-2007, 04:15 PM
Off topic posts have been deleted in this thread, if you don't like it, don't post in it, no rules have been broken. Should the next person (and those after) post stating what she is doing is so wrong and shouldn't be in this forum, ignore what I've just said, will be finding themselves banned for a week, I hope that is clear enough, because I am so NOT joking!!
Sharon
06-12-2007, 05:36 PM
Should the next person (and those after) post stating what she is doing is so wrong and shouldn't be in this forum, ignore what I've just said, will be finding themselves banned for a week, I hope that is clear enough, because I am so NOT joking!![/B]
And if I see it, I will do the same! You lot are fortunate that Tamara got here before I did. I have warned you already, many times, in this thread, so there will be no more flaming, ridicule, non-acceptance, or what have you towards another member. This site is called Crossdressers.com, not Crossdressersjustlikeme.com.
GypsyKaren
06-12-2007, 07:10 PM
I have watched this thread with great interest since it's beginning, and quite frankly I'm embarrassed by some of the responses I've seen that have been rightfully removed. Look, you may see her as being different, but guess what, so are you. This is what she's about, it's not about you, so all you have to do is ignore it if it's not your cup of tea, there's no need to jump in with judgements or criticism. A warning has been issued about this behavior, but I am asking that you all act like the adults you like to be treated as with your posts.
Karen
Mitch23
06-13-2007, 02:16 PM
nice one pink - you are a star!!!
Mitch
GypsyKaren
06-13-2007, 03:17 PM
I gotta tell you something Pink, you got guts, and for that you command my respect.
Karen Starlene
Dominique Melt
06-13-2007, 04:48 PM
Pink, I too, started to read this thread with interest and then fascination. I was discouraged that there were a number of posts ridiculing, mocking and excoriating you. I myself pretty much stopped posting here because of some differences about the content and tone of some of my threads, but I am heartened to see that Tamara and others have come out [no pun intended] to defend you. Surely, everyone is entitled to an opinion -- and that is all they are. I envy you, although I am not so sure I would want to do things exactly as you are doing them, but you have courage and attitude; that's ALL you need.
Deidra Cowen
06-14-2007, 12:14 PM
She of course is free to post it up, the moderators to defend it but I don't have to agree with what she has done and feel like I can post to that effect. Might be proven wrong on that last point but thats ok. I really enjoy this site and have learned a lot here in the last two years. Even have met some friends that I now see in Real Life..not just online..from this very forum.
Anyway won't write a book about it but I don't like the adventures for two reasons:
1) Much of it is rude or borish behavior...for example sucking on a pickle in a seductive way at the theatre.
2) Going out like this and performing many of these stunts reinforces the notion or attitude of some out in the general public that we are wierdos. She might have a hoot putting on a show with a clerk at the store...but I might come along an hour later and actually want to be treated with respect by that clerk.
I fully understand everyone has different perspectives and ideas...not claiming someone can't say what they want here...but that works both ways.
Hope everyone is having a great week! I am!!! Scored big on shopping last night. <giggle>
Hugs,
Deidra
JenniferMBlack
06-15-2007, 09:34 AM
All though I don't understand why this is being done. I also don't know why there are those who must put this person down. It seams the powers that be have read the post and see no wrong doing and are allowing it to stay. My problem is everyone here screams for exceptance and then bad mouths those that are different. If this is a choice and what this indiviual wants then I say let them be no matter how strange or different it is.
cosmolovesph
06-15-2007, 08:17 PM
I decided to wear a one-piece swimsuit to a public pool. I didn't want to spend for a water park although it would have been much more fun :)
I had my suit in my bag and got to the locker room to change...
What no Suntan pantyhose this time? tisk tisk ;)
I am sure all of this has been a thrill and I know i could not pull it off.
keep having fun and we will keep reading! :thumbsup:
of your list of 30 ideas (to do list..) for me i listed the ones that would be of interest for me....
#1 could be fun
#3 sounds interesting
#5 i would love this one to try one out.
#9 i would be game for
#10 (i have done about 5+ pairs and can't imagine 25+) ;)
#11 that could be fun too!
#18 (have to try at home... that may be as far as that one goes..)
# 19 maybe :)
#20 interesting idea :)
#23 i'd love to
vannesar
06-17-2007, 03:59 PM
calm down girls! .I just wish he would shave his armpits !.
pinkpantyhose
07-07-2007, 02:15 AM
my Mistress ordered me to do the bidding of some fellow sissies and added to some.
Assignment from Sharom: Go to a really hip teen store and thell the sales assistant that you need a new style, that you are tired of all your friends looking trendier and sexier, and that you wanna look like the models in teen vogue or cosmogirl, try on many outfits, no pants only skirts, tops and dresses, tell her there is this one girl you want to overshadow.
i did this assginment today. i went first to Wet Seal in the mall. i found a cute probably 16 or 17 year old blonde girl who worked there and told her "Can You help me?" She nodded. "i'm looking for a new style. All my friends are always so trendy and sexy and i'm getting super jealous. i want to look like the girls in Teen Vogue and Cosmogirl, can You recommend some outfits for me?" "Sure!!" She exclaimed. "So do you want something dressy, casual?" "Both, i guess...something to go to the mall in, something to wear on a date, something to wear to school." "Okay, well, bermuda shorts are really in..." She began to show me all kinds of things. "Layering is really in. you pick 2 things that you like that don't really go together and wear them. Like Me." She showed me how she was wearing a yellow tank under a white screen tank and showed me her red bra straps. She walked me to some tank tops and told me to pick 2 colors. i chose pink and yellow. "No, pink and yellow match. you have to pick things that don't go together for layering." i asked Her to pick for me. She replaced my pink and yellow with green and magenta. We continued this layering thing. She kept showing me things She owned. "I'm sorry, I'm showing you like everything I have because obviously I think they are so cute." "No problem!" i assured Her. She loved my shoes and told me that "skimmers" (what i know as "ballet flats") are so in right now.
See the outfits here: http://picasaweb.google.com/pinkpantyhose/Assignments?authkey=KW8gCJ7u7F0
pinkpantyhose
07-07-2007, 02:16 AM
Assignment by Sharom: Go to a lingerie store and tell the sales assistant that you need lingerie for a very special evening, and in confidence... its gonna be your first time with your boyfriend and that you need something really sexy, after all 6 months with the same loving man deserve something special, try on babydoll nigthies and pick one.
My Mistress loved this assignment Sharom, but She wanted to make it a bit more humiliating for me of course. She added 2 requirements to it: 1) i had to buy a $100 gift card at Victioria's Secret several days in advance, and get the pink envelope and card for it. i was then to write "My sissy bride" on the "To" line of the card and "Master Bruce" on the "From line in black magic marker so it would be obvious, then...see below... 2) i had to ask for "butterfly panties" and pretend like i had no idea what they were but that Bruce wanted me to be sure to have them for our special night.
So i went to VS with my gift card sealed in the envelope. When i got there it was very busy on a Saturday afternoon. i had to wait in line at the register to ask the cashier to check my balance. "Can You please check the balance on this giftcard my fiance gave me?" "Sure!" She opened the envelope slid out the card, read the bold print and smirked broadly. She then swiped it and printed out a little balance sheet. "It's got $100 on it. Lucky!" "Wow! He really does love me!" She grinned. "Would you like to open an Angels account with us?" "Actually i already have one but it's maxed out right now, so i'm so happy to have this gift card. i need to buy some lingerie for tomorrow night. It's my wedding night and it'll be my first time with my fiance and i need something really sexy." She simply said "uh huh." "Maybe a babydoll?" "What size?" "M or L" "All we have left in sexy lingerie right now is on the clearance racks. We will be getting some new lines next week but that'll be too late for your special night, so the mediums are there and the larges are over on that wall." I thanked her and trotted off to the racks. i selected several and went to another associate to ask to use the dressing room. "It's over there. Let me unlock a room for you."
i began trying them on snapping photos. When i was down to the last one, i was startled by loud knocking on my dressing room door. "Are you doing okay in there?" "Yes, thank-You." "Okay, just so you know we don't allow photography in the store. I've been seeing flashes. We can't allow that just in case someone opens your door." "Okay, sorry!" I was very humiliated. There were plenty of customers in the store and in adjacent dressing rooms who i'm SURE heard all of that. i had one nightgown left and slipped into it and decided to take a picture without flash. It didn't come out too good but i still posted it...
Out i went with 5 babydolls/nighties in tow. i bought 2 -- the black one and the pink flowery one with matching panties. They were a steal at $19.99 and $14.99.
While paying i selected a different cashier from the one who checked my balance. I had the card back in the envelope and gave it to the cashier who similarly opened it, read it, actually giggled (while trying to hold it, LOL) and asked me if i wanted to open an Angel card. "You found some really cute ones. I wish we had these in my size." "i sure hope my fiancee likes them. We're getting married tomorrow and it's going to be my first time..." "Oh?! Well, have fun, and i'm sure he'll love them, but don't expect to be wearing them for too long" and again she giggled under her breath. She handed me the card back "You still have $60-something left. Come back, okay?" And she handed me my tissue-wrap, bagged babydolls with the biggest grin i've seen in years.
Crap! I had totally forgotten to ask about butterfly panties! Back I went. "No, we don't have those here. Try upstairs at I think it's called Satin and Bows? Satin and Lace?" Upstairs i went. Only 1 employee -- a pretty young Latina or possibly Indian woman greeted me. "I'm looking for some lingerie for my wedding night tomorrow. It's going to be my first time with my fiancee and I need something relly sexy." She pointed out some bridal lingerie in a section on the wall, then walked over to me when I asked if she had a white corset in my size. She didn't. She recommended the pink one. "They come with stockings and a thong panty." "Oh, great. Speaking of panties, Bruce wants me to buy something called a butterfly panty -- do you sell those?" She said "With butterflies? No I don't think we have those." "No, i don't think he meant with butterflies -- i think it's called a butterfly panty." "Oh! Crotchless panties. Yes! We have a few. Here's one right here actually." She pointed to one in the wedding section. "It even plays music." She pressed a white heart that dangled from the front middle and it began to play the wedding march." "Cute!" i said, "But maybe more cheesy than sexy." She laughed and showed me some other ones. I tried on 2 corsets -- she wouldn't let me try on the panties. I snapped photos.
http://picasaweb.google.com/pinkpantyhose/Assignments?authkey=KW8gCJ7u7F0
LaFem
07-07-2007, 09:48 AM
Way to go pinkpantyhose, you sure have stirred up the girls. I have never seen so many moderators jump in to a thread. I also think you have kind of "exposed" the class structure that many members have developed in their minds, and also the disdain of the "good crossdressers" for the "bad crossdressers." I have noticed this many times, and it is often times extremely funny, and sometimes very sad. Keep going!
pinkpantyhose
07-12-2007, 11:47 PM
Went back to Hooters for lunch. It was busy but not super busy. Looked around a bit for the waitress from last time, but didn't see her. Sat on a high table. My waitress was a cute short girl who took my drink order. About 2 minutes later the manager comes up to me. i wondered what was up. He said, "Hey, how are you, I'm Mike," and he shook my hand. Weird. Then he said, "I've got a question for you. Are you the same guy who came in wearing the Hooters girl uniform a while back?" "Yes, that was me." "Oh, it's nice to meet you. I'd heard all about you...the girls loved it." i was famous, LOL. i showed him the pic of me with the other waitress i had brought along for her to sign, but she was off today. "Wow, well, awesome man, if you need anything, let me know." He just wanted to meet me. My waitress chatted with me about crossdressing too. I got a pic with her and tipped her well.
http://lh4.google.com/pinkpantyhose/Rpb_Pn_HIgI/AAAAAAAADcs/FCLm_UClsiw/s800/sister3p01.jpg
See larger images here: http://picasaweb.google.com/pinkpantyhose/SisterSissyAssignments?authkey=vLKQXb33XU8
Sheri 4242
07-13-2007, 04:39 AM
I was allowed to change my assignment 26. When I began my training, Mistress and I had agreed no permanent body changes. I read and was told by 2 tattoo parlors that a belly piercing usually takes a month to heal and can take up to a year to close up. That is too "permanent" for me, so I was allowed to change the assignment with the added requirements of the photo shoot that I just posted.
I got my belly pierced about 8 years ago -- it is no big deal, really!!! Funny how it is rarely ever noticed -- and 9 times out of ten it is a GG who notices and thinks it is great. You can "cover" with a bit of history: in ancient Egypt, only the Pharoes (and whatever family members they gave specific permission to) were allowed to pierce their belly buttons -- under penalty of death if you defied this dictate.
About 5 yars ago, my wife gave me a really nice gold belly double dangle with my birthstone surrounded by diamonds. Don't take it out much!!!
. . . I don't like the adventures for two reasons . . .
Deidra, I think most everyone would be able to understand your concerns -- and you certainly are a lot nicer about it than some were when she first started posting. My ONLY problems are: NOT buying something from someone who really helped you (and who may work on commission) -- I don't know why this was a concern, but it was. And, second, in line with your statement about stereotyping and image, I do have a concern if there are children present. OTHERWISE -- I am all for it and love hearing the stories (vicarious living, right?). Pinky: if you need advice about the wedding, PM me -- my wife and I just had a renewal ceremony in Vegas where I was the bride -- and it was great!!! You'll love it!!!
my Mistress ordered me to do the bidding of some fellow sissies and added to some.
Would your Mistress allow some of us to suggest some ideas for you to take to Her???
MsPriscilla
07-19-2007, 10:28 AM
Pinky,
I've only just logged on to your assignment trail, having first seen the Wedding Experience thread.
I care not a tinker's cuss what others say, i loved every minute of your adventures, and look forward to many more. You are one brave girl, and an inspiration to us all.
Mitch23
07-19-2007, 01:53 PM
But it looks like you've slowed down a bit Pinky - got to get those assignments in on time girl if you want to graduate from Sissy School!
Mitch
SatinDoll00
07-20-2007, 04:29 PM
You know, one of the things I find most interesting about this thread is the manner in which Pink was treated while out. Almost no one has been rude, mean, or condescending to her at all!
Many have posted here that they think that Pink's "adventures" would have some negative impact on CDers...but I have to say, it has given me some extra courage!
Imagine, if Pink can go into David's Bridal and TRY ON A WEDDING dress, and not be ridiculed or anything, then you or I or anyone should have no trouble buying a bra, in drab, at the self check out at Wal-Mart or Target!
Pink...no matter what anyone else here says to you, you have at least inspired 1 CDer in me. My fears about going out en femme or shopping in drab don't seem so ominous anymore.
Kudos
Morgan
KateSpade83
07-20-2007, 08:38 PM
I admire your courage doing what you do Pink because I could never do what you have done. If I ever go out it's either full drag / pass or never!
Keep posting in this thread. Your amusing adventures are interesting!
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